Re: Working with addictions.To Steve

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve,

Does that mean that what ever I do (Reality) is okay for me, and that

it is only my story that says " it is wrong " that makes me feel bad?

That sounds very simple.

Is it really that simple?

Tara

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many times I have heard say don't do the Work on an

> > > addiction

> > > > > (smoking, drinking, drugs etc.) do the Work on the thought

> > which

> > > just

> > > > > preceeds the glass of whiskey, the hit of cocaine or the

> > > cigarette.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's that thought which you are trying to shut down with

the

> > > alcohol,

> > > > > cocaine or nicotine.

> > > > >

> > > > > So that is why

> > > > > often says to addicts to do the Work on mother,

brother

> > > etc.

> > > > > because when I undo those stressful thoughts which are

> causing

> > my

> > > > > addiction my addictive behaviour will automatically cease.

> > > > >

> > > > > " The only addiction is our addiction to our story (our

> > > thinking). " BK

> > > > >

> > > > > " The only addiction is our thinking. " BK

> > > >

> > > > Seeming Contridiction - also says the final addiction

is

> the

> > > > addiction to truth.

> > > >

> > > > What you have written about addictions, is exactly as I see

it,

> I

> > > just

> > > > worded it differently. I am very harsh with myself when I

> > discover

> > > > myself doing denial and kidding myself - the good side is

that

> it

> > > > spurs me on - the down side is that I tend to treat others

just

> as

> > > > harshly when I see my denial systems reflected in their work.

> > > >

> > > > I enjoyed reading your clear articulation of what for me is a

> core

> > > > topic - my addictions are obsessive thinking and lays baked

> potato

> > > > chips - I'm up to four bags a day!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Blessings - Jan

[Guest guest]

Good point Tara. Imagine there is a child molestor who simply has a

story that it is bad to molest children, but continues doing it

because, as Steve implies, whatever one does is okay. Steve seems

so in love with reality that everything becomes permissable. Is

life really this simple?

whitman

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many times I have heard say don't do the Work on

an

> > > > addiction

> > > > > > (smoking, drinking, drugs etc.) do the Work on the

thought

> > > which

> > > > just

> > > > > > preceeds the glass of whiskey, the hit of cocaine or the

> > > > cigarette.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's that thought which you are trying to shut down with

> the

> > > > alcohol,

> > > > > > cocaine or nicotine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So that is why

> > > > > > often says to addicts to do the Work on mother,

> brother

> > > > etc.

> > > > > > because when I undo those stressful thoughts which are

> > causing

> > > my

> > > > > > addiction my addictive behaviour will automatically

cease.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " The only addiction is our addiction to our story (our

> > > > thinking). " BK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " The only addiction is our thinking. " BK

> > > > >

> > > > > Seeming Contridiction - also says the final

addiction

> is

> > the

> > > > > addiction to truth.

> > > > >

> > > > > What you have written about addictions, is exactly as I

see

> it,

> > I

> > > > just

> > > > > worded it differently. I am very harsh with myself when I

> > > discover

> > > > > myself doing denial and kidding myself - the good side is

> that

> > it

> > > > > spurs me on - the down side is that I tend to treat others

> just

> > as

> > > > > harshly when I see my denial systems reflected in their

work.

> > > > >

> > > > > I enjoyed reading your clear articulation of what for me

is a

> > core

> > > > > topic - my addictions are obsessive thinking and lays

baked

> > potato

> > > > > chips - I'm up to four bags a day!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessings - Jan

[Guest guest]

Dear Whitman and Tara,

You said: " as Steve implies, whatever one does is okay " .

If I implied that, I did not intend to. That was not my point.

Please see my response to Tara.

Thanks, Steve D.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many times I have heard say don't do the Work on

> an

> > > > > addiction

> > > > > > > (smoking, drinking, drugs etc.) do the Work on the

> thought

> > > > which

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > preceeds the glass of whiskey, the hit of cocaine or

the

> > > > > cigarette.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's that thought which you are trying to shut down

with

> > the

> > > > > alcohol,

> > > > > > > cocaine or nicotine.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So that is why

> > > > > > > often says to addicts to do the Work on mother,

> > brother

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > because when I undo those stressful thoughts which are

> > > causing

> > > > my

> > > > > > > addiction my addictive behaviour will automatically

> cease.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " The only addiction is our addiction to our story (our

> > > > > thinking). " BK

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " The only addiction is our thinking. " BK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Seeming Contridiction - also says the final

> addiction

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > > addiction to truth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What you have written about addictions, is exactly as I

> see

> > it,

> > > I

> > > > > just

> > > > > > worded it differently. I am very harsh with myself when

I

> > > > discover

> > > > > > myself doing denial and kidding myself - the good side is

> > that

> > > it

> > > > > > spurs me on - the down side is that I tend to treat

others

> > just

> > > as

> > > > > > harshly when I see my denial systems reflected in their

> work.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I enjoyed reading your clear articulation of what for me

> is a

> > > core

> > > > > > topic - my addictions are obsessive thinking and lays

> baked

> > > potato

> > > > > > chips - I'm up to four bags a day!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessings - Jan

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve,

Thank you for your mail.

I feel like I am understanding this better now.

Tara

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many times I have heard say don't do the Work on

an

> > > > > addiction

> > > > > > > (smoking, drinking, drugs etc.) do the Work on the

> thought

> > > > which

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > preceeds the glass of whiskey, the hit of cocaine or

the

> > > > > cigarette.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's that thought which you are trying to shut down

with

> > the

> > > > > alcohol,

> > > > > > > cocaine or nicotine.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So that is why

> > > > > > > often says to addicts to do the Work on mother,

> > brother

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > because when I undo those stressful thoughts which are

> > > causing

> > > > my

> > > > > > > addiction my addictive behaviour will automatically

cease.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " The only addiction is our addiction to our story (our

> > > > > thinking). " BK

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " The only addiction is our thinking. " BK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Seeming Contridiction - also says the final

addiction

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > > addiction to truth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What you have written about addictions, is exactly as I

see

> > it,

> > > I

> > > > > just

> > > > > > worded it differently. I am very harsh with myself when

I

> > > > discover

> > > > > > myself doing denial and kidding myself - the good side is

> > that

> > > it

> > > > > > spurs me on - the down side is that I tend to treat

others

> > just

> > > as

> > > > > > harshly when I see my denial systems reflected in their

> work.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I enjoyed reading your clear articulation of what for me

is

> a

> > > core

> > > > > > topic - my addictions are obsessive thinking and lays

baked

> > > potato

> > > > > > chips - I'm up to four bags a day!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessings - Jan

[Guest guest]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 03:52:04AM -0000, inlovewithreality wrote:

> Dear Steve,

> Does that mean that what ever I do (Reality) is okay for me, and that

> it is only my story that says " it is wrong " that makes me feel bad?

>

> That sounds very simple.

> Is it really that simple?

Dear Tara,

What answer comes when you ask you? Is it really that simple?

Can you find any more complication than that? I can't, unless I'm

believing the thought that says, " It is wrong. "

Tom