Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 >Aubrey Hampton and Aubrey Organics is a different story. Aubrey takes >advantage of peoples' ignorance and fears. He doesn't use valid INCI >names, why should you think that ALL the ingredients are listed. Did you know that Aubrey Organics has a web-based discussion board? http://www.aubrey-organics.com/boards/discussion/ Last week I asked why Aubrey Organics does not use proper names when labeling his products. My first message was deleted from the message board. I can only wonder why. Not to be deterred, I reposted the question yesterday, Saturday, when the employees that handle the discussion board are home for the week end. I did get one response and I've already responded. Let's see how long my question will stay up on Aubrey Organics Discussion Board. Maurice ------------------------ Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Hi Maurice, Well done! *bows* *bows again* I am sure you know how many companies out there are using his quotes and build & sell their own line of products under his shadow. They use his top 10 *dangerous* list etc. I will admit when I first started, I thought he was the *real* thing. He never mentions anything about the dangers of unpreserved products! Only the dangers of preserving them among other *toxic* ingredients. I did have my doubts, after awhile they grew in to more than that. It took some time before I knew the truth, but I did a lot of digging. Most consumers do not see the need to dig and he is carried on many shelves in the USA today. Now when I visit my Whole Foods, I cannot help but let out a deep growl as I pass his products. Grrrr! I am going to his M. Board to watch your thread. *grin* Take care ) Sevi K > > >Aubrey Hampton and Aubrey Organics is a different story. Aubrey takes > >advantage of peoples' ignorance and fears. He doesn't use valid INCI > >names, why should you think that ALL the ingredients are listed. > > Did you know that Aubrey Organics has a web-based discussion board? > http://www.aubrey-organics.com/boards/discussion/ > > Last week I asked why Aubrey Organics does not use proper names when > labeling his products. My first message was deleted from the message > board. I can only wonder why. > > Not to be deterred, I reposted the question yesterday, Saturday, when > the employees that handle the discussion board are home for the week > end. I did get one response and I've already responded. > > Let's see how long my question will stay up on Aubrey Organics > Discussion Board. > > Maurice > > ------------------------ > Maurice O. Hevey > Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. > http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Hi again Maurice, I just read the posts. LOL! Can I bet you that by Monday they will all be removed? I wish they had the back bone to handle these types of questions, but... I will keep my eyes on the thread... Take Care :-) Sevi ------------ > > http://www.aubrey-organics.com/boards/discussion/ > > > > Last week I asked why Aubrey Organics does not use proper names when > > labeling his products. My first message was deleted from the > message > > board. I can only wonder why. > > > > Not to be deterred, I reposted the question yesterday, Saturday, > when > > the employees that handle the discussion board are home for the week > > end. I did get one response and I've already responded. > > > > Let's see how long my question will stay up on Aubrey Organics > > Discussion Board. > > > > Maurice > > > > ------------------------ > > Maurice O. Hevey > > Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. > > http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Gee, is it just me, or does it strike anyone else that Leigh, & are company plants?? What a joke! I'd like to know what's in the Chamomile Bath Bubbles that bubbles? The ingredient list shows no soap, syndet or even any high-saponin content plants... I'm tempted to post links to the FDA warning letters so people will know that the ingredient lists are wrong! Jules in Vancouver (who'd really like to spend some 'quality' time with Aubrey Hampton) > > >Aubrey Hampton and Aubrey Organics is a different story. Aubrey takes > >advantage of peoples' ignorance and fears. He doesn't use valid INCI > >names, why should you think that ALL the ingredients are listed. > > Did you know that Aubrey Organics has a web-based discussion board? > http://www.aubrey-organics.com/boards/discussion/ > > Last week I asked why Aubrey Organics does not use proper names when > labeling his products. My first message was deleted from the message > board. I can only wonder why. > > Not to be deterred, I reposted the question yesterday, Saturday, when > the employees that handle the discussion board are home for the week > end. I did get one response and I've already responded. > > Let's see how long my question will stay up on Aubrey Organics > Discussion Board. > > Maurice > > ------------------------ > Maurice O. Hevey > Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. > http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Hi Jules, I just typed in the search term " Synthetic Cosmetic Ingredients To Avoid " on Google and bunch of people using his top 10 list came up. Of course they are all selling something of their own ) 30+ years in business? My husband just asked me a great question. " Why won't FDA do anything? " I am not sure myself...Any ideas? > Jules in Vancouver (who'd really like to spend some 'quality' time > with Aubrey Hampton) LOL! I will bring my canine pack to help ya! Take care, Sevi ------ Mundo > > Gee, is it just me, or does it strike anyone else that Leigh, > & are company plants?? What a joke! > > I'd like to know what's in the Chamomile Bath Bubbles that bubbles? > The ingredient list shows no soap, syndet or even any high-saponin > content plants... > > I'm tempted to post links to the FDA warning letters so people will > know that the ingredient lists are wrong! > > Jules in Vancouver (who'd really like to spend some 'quality' time > with Aubrey Hampton) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 The short answer is " money " . The long answer is... They have sent numerous warning letters to Aubrey about the labelling practices, etc. (they can be viewed on the FDA website - I think Maurice has posted the URL) But, at the end of the day, the FDA only has a handful of inspectors that handle cosmetics, and they're busy dealing with consumer complaints and injuries. The FDA spends most of its resources on regulating food and drugs, and that is understandable, after all. If I understand correctly, the funding for the FDA certainly doesn't match the growth in the cosmetics industry! As much as it ticks me off to see companies like Aubrey getting away with what they do, if the choice is between making sure that baby food isn't contaminated or making sure that cosmetics are labelled properly, I'd have to put my resources toward the baby food too... Want something done? Lobby for more funding for the FDA, I guess... Health Canada here is just as strapped for resources... Jules in Vancouver BC > > > > Gee, is it just me, or does it strike anyone else that Leigh, > > & are company plants?? What a joke! > > > > I'd like to know what's in the Chamomile Bath Bubbles that > bubbles? > > The ingredient list shows no soap, syndet or even any high- saponin > > content plants... > > > > I'm tempted to post links to the FDA warning letters so people will > > know that the ingredient lists are wrong! > > > > Jules in Vancouver (who'd really like to spend some 'quality' time > > with Aubrey Hampton) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Why not go to the m anagement of the store and teach them the dangers of his products? = ) Take along a few of the FDA facts on preservativing when selling? Perhaps some facts on perservatives from an accurate source also? Probably will not help much but you will feel better. But, hey...who knows. Maybe your store has a conscience. Our local nation wide chain store is carrying items that are advertized all natural yet by the ingredient list you can see it is not. But what is missing on the packaging is manufacturer's address AND phone number. Haven't a clue as to where they come from...could be the moon for all one knows. Dee ·´¯`·.. ><((((º> ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. ><((((º> ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. ><((((º> ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. << Most consumers do not see the need to dig and he is carried on many shelves in the USA today. Now when I visit my Whole Foods, I cannot help but let out a deep growl as I pass his products. Grrrr! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 >Our local nation wide chain store is carrying items that are advertized all >natural yet by the ingredient list you can see it is not. But what is missing >on the packaging is manufacturer's address AND phone number.ÿ Haven't >a clue as to where they come from...could be the moon for all one knows. This is a violation of the Fair Packaging and Labeling Act (FPLA) and FDA labeling regulations. 21 CFR 701.12 Name and place of business of manufacturer, packer, or distributor. (a) The label of a cosmetic in package form shall specify conspicuously the name and place of business of the manufacturer, packer, or distributor. ( The requirement for declaration of the name of the manufacturer, packer, or distributor shall be deemed to be satisfied in the case of a corporation only by the actual corporate name, which may be preceded or followed by the name of the particular division of the corporation. Abbreviations for ``Company,'' ``Incorporated,'' etc., may be used and ``The'' may be omitted. In the case of an individual, partnership, or association, the name under which the business is conducted shall be used. © Where the cosmetic is not manufactured by the person whose name appears on the label, the name shall be qualified by a phrase that reveals the connection such person has with such cosmetic; such as, ``Manufactured for ______________'', ``Distributed by ________________'', or any other wording that expresses the facts. (d) The statement of the place of business shall include the street address, city, State, and ZIP Code; however, the street address may be omitted if it is shown in a current city directory or telephone directory. The requirement for inclusion of the ZIP Code shall apply only to consumer commodity labels developed or revised after the effective date of this section. In the case of nonconsumer packages, the ZIP Code shall appear either on the label or the labeling (including the invoice). (e) If a person manufactures, packs, or distributes a cosmetic at a place other than his principal place of business, the label may state the principal place of business in lieu of the actual place where such cosmetic was manufactured or packed or is to be distributed, unless such statement would be misleading. Maurice ------------------------ Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Yes, I know. I think instead of complaining to the service desk (which did not give any service on this one...lol) next time I go in during the day I will talk to the store manager. I can hear it now..... " we don't do the ordering from here, it comes from headquarters " . Gee, perhaps headquarters would like a heads up from up and not be suprised by an FDA visit? Wonder what sort of facial expression that statement might produce. Dee ·´¯`·.. ><((((º> ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. ><((((º> ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. ><((((º> ·´¯`·.. ><((((º>``·.¸:. Re: re: Aubrey Organics >Our local nation wide chain store is carrying items that are advertized all >natural yet by the ingredient list you can see it is not. But what is missing >on the packaging is manufacturer's address AND phone number.ÿ Haven't >a clue as to where they come from...could be the moon for all one knows. This is a violation of the Fair Packaging and Labeling Act (FPLA) and FDA labeling regulations. 21 CFR 701.12 Name and place of business of manufacturer, packer, or distributor. (a) The label of a cosmetic in package form shall specify conspicuously the name and place of business of the manufacturer, packer, or distributor. ( The requirement for declaration of the name of the manufacturer, packer, or distributor shall be deemed to be satisfied in the case of a corporation only by the actual corporate name, which may be preceded or followed by the name of the particular division of the corporation. Abbreviations for ``Company,'' ``Incorporated,'' etc., may be used and ``The'' may be omitted. In the case of an individual, partnership, or association, the name under which the business is conducted shall be used. © Where the cosmetic is not manufactured by the person whose name appears on the label, the name shall be qualified by a phrase that reveals the connection such person has with such cosmetic; such as, ``Manufactured for ______________'', ``Distributed by ________________'', or any other wording that expresses the facts. (d) The statement of the place of business shall include the street address, city, State, and ZIP Code; however, the street address may be omitted if it is shown in a current city directory or telephone directory. The requirement for inclusion of the ZIP Code shall apply only to consumer commodity labels developed or revised after the effective date of this section. In the case of nonconsumer packages, the ZIP Code shall appear either on the label or the labeling (including the invoice). (e) If a person manufactures, packs, or distributes a cosmetic at a place other than his principal place of business, the label may state the principal place of business in lieu of the actual place where such cosmetic was manufactured or packed or is to be distributed, unless such statement would be misleading. Maurice ------------------------ Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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