Re: level of consciousness

[Guest guest]

We're used to looking outside ourselves, literally out of touch with

our bodies, emotions, and most thoughts go unquestioned. It's very

useful to notice how our body/mind/emotions are responding to the

environment, then we can choose what we eat and do etc to stay happy

and at ease, if that's the state we want to be in. 'Levels of

conscious' sounds a bit serious to me, 'stay happy and relaxed' seems

less stressful. Now, can we stay happy and relaxes as we check with

ourelves to see how we are? Tim

[Guest guest]

Dear Tara,

For what it is worth, I was involved with ashram life for many

years...vacations and as a " weekend warrior. " So I was in the opposite

situation - on the outside looking in. I thought I wanted to live in

the ashram and the time was never right, I was never " strong " enough.

Sound familiar?

May I make a suggestion?

Judge your ashram, write it down...ask four questions, turn it around.

Judge your guru, write it down...ask four questions, turn it around.

Ashram life is not " real life, " is it true?

You want to live outside now, is it true?

Love, Carol

> > ,

> > What I think is: what happened was you slipped from a higher

> consciousness

> > into a lower one. Everything looks different when we move from one

> level to

> > another. Some of the things that will drop our LOC are: poor diet,

> > isolation, negative thoughts, commiserating with others about their

> (or our)

> > problems, being around other people in a low LOC, believing

> society's

> > negative propaganda (TV & movies), irrational belief systems we are

> holding

> > onto etc.

> >

> > What raises our LOC (level of consciousness) are: Music, nature,

> healthy

> > foods, exercise, positive thoughts, humor, spiritual connection,

> human

> > connection with people at a healthy LOC , and most importantly

> identifying

> > and letting go of irrational beliefs. When we discover who we

> really are,

> > concerns over whether we are depressed or happy no longer matters--

> because

> > we are filled with joy.

> >

> > Good luck,

> > Eddie

> >

> >

> > >From: " " <skogsnuvan@y...>

> > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is

> > >To: Loving-what-is

> > >Subject: (unknown)

> > >Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 02:28:41 -0000

> > >

> > >I am just crying and crying, what is wrong ? It´s like I´m being

> > >cracked into a thousands pieces. I want my old life back! I used to

> > >be a such a happy woman. My last four years have been filled with

> so

> > >much happiness. And there wasn´t a problem in my life I didn´t

> think

> > >I couldn´t put up with. The only thing I thought that could break

> me

> > >was if my daughter would die.

> > >

> > >I liked my self, very much. I thought of myself as a strong capable

> > >woman that lived a very happy life. And that happines came from

> > >inside of me. Many tough things happened to me, but not once I

> > >thought of me as unhappy. " Ok, my boss is an ashole, I´m still

> > >happy " . " Ok, that guy didn´t want to see me anymore , I´m

> > >happy. " " Ok, my student´s parents are telling lies about me and

> > >putting me down, I am the most happiest woman on this planet " .

> > >

> > > And so I had a depression. At least that was what people were

> > >telling me. I wasn´t scare. And the fact is I didn´t suffer much

> > >from it. I was just not as a used to be, but still happy. But

> > >everyone around me suffered. My sister, my daughter and a buch of

> > >other people. We don´t want you to be like this, they told me.

> This

> > >is really hurtful to us. I understood that I had to do something

> > >about it, because I didn´t want to see them in pain. What to do?

> > >Well, destiny or something brought ´s book into my hand. This

> > >is great I thought! So I started reading, and thought: This could

> be

> > >a way out of the depression!

> > >

> > >Now I have been doing the work for about three month and I can

> > >honestly tell you that this has been three months of hell. And I

> > >just want to let you know that I don´t blaime this on or

> > >anyone else. I am just telling my story. Once a happy woman-now a

> > >very unhappy one. I used to know what made me happy. Suddenly I

> > >didn´t. Suddenly I start to question everything I had believed was

> > >true.

> > >This is me today: Confused, miserable, a looser, and not happy. Not

> > >happy at all. I just want to go back to the time when I never had

> > >heard about the work. To the time I was happy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

> But, I have to admit that I was not doing The Work during this time,

> and I was watching TV and listening to the radio as a way of

> unwinding from stressful work.

> Maybe I was not careful enough, and was not ready to deal with all

> of the exposure which I was not used to.

I bet you've hit the nail on the head here, Tara, in realizing that TV and radio

probably added to your stress.

I rarely watch TV or listen to the radio. It's just too much noise for me. When

I

get home from work, I go for walks, read books, and talk to my kids.

Change is usually pretty stressful just by its nature. It must have been quite a

culture shock to go from Indian ashram to North American work-a-day world.

I wish you the best as you continue to try.

[Guest guest]

Dear Tara,

When we are moving from one level of consciousness to a higher one, we do

have to take nurturing care of ourselves with proper diet, uplifting company

and constant awareness of our intentions. But once firmly grounded in a new

level, there is a certainty that we will no longer be tempted to return to

lower levels of consciousness (not permanently at least).

When life lightens up for us, from a higher viewpoint, the things we are

concerned with melt away. Taking life lightly is what allows us to " be in

the world but not of it. " We find that we don't have to worry ourselves

about other people--God will get to them at the right time.

Love,

Eddie

>

>Reply-To: Loving-what-is

>To: Loving-what-is

>Subject: Level of consciousness

>Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 05:29:55 -0000

>

>Dear Eddie,

>I appreciate your comments and your clairity.

>

>I did however notice that when I read what you wrote about levels of

>consciousness it gave me an uneasy feeling. It made me feel like I

>need to be careful about what I eat and who I spend time with so that

>I dont drop in consciousness.

>

>This is not a new concept for me. I lived many years in an ashram,

>isolated from society and believing that " Society-The World " is a

>scarey, bad place that one needs to keep away from.

>

>I just posted a piece today on this very topic: Ashram vs. Life in

>the World.

>I am trying to participate in Life-The World again. I dont want to be

>limited by hiding and escaping from life.

>I am tired of being Careful.

>I dont want only " High " , " Spiritual " .....

>I want to see the beauty in All of reality.

>

>Tara

>

>

> > ,

> > What I think is: what happened was you slipped from a higher

>consciousness

> > into a lower one. Everything looks different when we move from one

>level to

> > another. Some of the things that will drop our LOC are: poor diet,

> > isolation, negative thoughts, commiserating with others about their

>(or our)

> > problems, being around other people in a low LOC, believing

>society's

> > negative propaganda (TV & movies), irrational belief systems we are

>holding

> > onto etc.

> >

> > What raises our LOC (level of consciousness) are: Music, nature,

>healthy

> > foods, exercise, positive thoughts, humor, spiritual connection,

>human

> > connection with people at a healthy LOC , and most importantly

>identifying

> > and letting go of irrational beliefs. When we discover who we

>really are,

> > concerns over whether we are depressed or happy no longer matters--

>because

> > we are filled with joy.

> >

> > Good luck,

> > Eddie

> >

> >

> > >From: " " <skogsnuvan@y...>

> > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is

> > >To: Loving-what-is

> > >Subject: (unknown)

> > >Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 02:28:41 -0000

> > >

> > >I am just crying and crying, what is wrong ? It´s like I´m being

> > >cracked into a thousands pieces. I want my old life back! I used to

> > >be a such a happy woman. My last four years have been filled with

>so

> > >much happiness. And there wasn´t a problem in my life I didn´t

>think

> > >I couldn´t put up with. The only thing I thought that could break

>me

> > >was if my daughter would die.

> > >

> > >I liked my self, very much. I thought of myself as a strong capable

> > >woman that lived a very happy life. And that happines came from

> > >inside of me. Many tough things happened to me, but not once I

> > >thought of me as unhappy. " Ok, my boss is an ashole, I´m still

> > >happy " . " Ok, that guy didn´t want to see me anymore , I´m

> > >happy. " " Ok, my student´s parents are telling lies about me and

> > >putting me down, I am the most happiest woman on this planet " .

> > >

> > > And so I had a depression. At least that was what people were

> > >telling me. I wasn´t scare. And the fact is I didn´t suffer much

> > >from it. I was just not as a used to be, but still happy. But

> > >everyone around me suffered. My sister, my daughter and a buch of

> > >other people. We don´t want you to be like this, they told me.

>This

> > >is really hurtful to us. I understood that I had to do something

> > >about it, because I didn´t want to see them in pain. What to do?

> > >Well, destiny or something brought ´s book into my hand. This

> > >is great I thought! So I started reading, and thought: This could

>be

> > >a way out of the depression!

> > >

> > >Now I have been doing the work for about three month and I can

> > >honestly tell you that this has been three months of hell. And I

> > >just want to let you know that I don´t blaime this on or

> > >anyone else. I am just telling my story. Once a happy woman-now a

> > >very unhappy one. I used to know what made me happy. Suddenly I

> > >didn´t. Suddenly I start to question everything I had believed was

> > >true.

> > >This is me today: Confused, miserable, a looser, and not happy. Not

> > >happy at all. I just want to go back to the time when I never had

> > >heard about the work. To the time I was happy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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