Re: Re: lymph drainage and liver detox - EveryOne

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Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to share my opinion on this. I had an ultrasound several years ago because of abdominal pain. The ultrasound was so painful I was crying. The technician kept going over my liver. I was diagnosed was an enlarged spleen and slightly enlarged liver. Of course I know now that it was due to the implants. My spleen was so painful to the touch that I had to give up underwire bras. My organs were so painful that I could no longer wear jeans and had to wear sweat pants or shorts with elastic. UHGG!

Anyway, my point is, knowing this about myself I don't think that I would ever do a liver flush. I'm too afraid because of the pain I endured from the ultrasound.

My spleen is better since explant. I can actually touch that area now without being in severe pain. A doctor that examined me told me that it would be wise to never drink another alcoholic beverage for the rest of my life!

Beth S.mikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote:

-KendaYou do have to be careful, but the flush can really help with gallbladder disease. Several people have prevented having their gallbladders removed by doing these. You have to make sure you soften the stones by drinking lots of apple juice. However, if you know that you have large stones, then you are right, it can be more of a problem, a stone could get stuck. I don't no anything about pancreatitus so I will defer to you on that. If I knew I had stones for sure, I would only do a flush in conjunction with a doctor overseeing it. But most of us don't, and the liver flush is one of the best things you can do to restore health and I wouldn't want to discourage people on it. There is a wealth of info on the Hulda liver flush on the www.curezone.com site and by s

Moritz--he has his own site too. My brother in law just did a flush as he was having gallbladder attacks and he passed 500 small stones. He feels alot better and is planning another one soon. I didn't pass many--I don't know though because I didnt catch them or anything--but Isure felt a burst of energy and wellness for a few days. I am definitely going to do another.kathy-- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...> wrote:> > Hi, everyone.> > > > Just a warning, if any of you have pancreatitits or gallbladder disease or> > symptoms, doing a flush can put you in the hospital or even kill you. If you> > have either of these two diseases, you do not want a rush of gallstones or> > sludge dumping out of your gallbladder, possibly blocking your liver and> > killing you. I asked my

doctor about doing a flush because I had pancreatitis> > and he gave me a strong no way and explained the dangers.> > > > If you decide to do the flush just be careful and watch for symptoms of a> > severe attack. If you have severe upper quadrant pain that doesn¹t get better> > and doesn¹t subside, get to the hospital immediately.> > > > If you suspect you have gallstones or sludge, there are safe medications that> > will break them down without causing an attack. I ended up in the hospital 3> > years ago with an unsuspected pancreatitis attack. All we can figure is that> > my liver was very clogged and finally dumped. Although I felt much better> > after the attack, the three days in the hospital with morphine was no fun at> > all.> > > > Be careful, girls. > > > >

Kenda> > > > > > Hi Anita!> > You can get the same results from a mini-trampoline, or jumping rope.> > Have you thought about that?> > > > What kind of liver flush are you doing? If you do the full-bore> > flush, (1/2 cup olive oil and grapefruit juice, the epsom salts and> > all that), then you can have a fat free breakfast, light lunch, and> > then nothing to eat after 2 pm. I usually fast the whole day and don't> > eat anything at all. Soup with veggies would be okay, as long as you> > make the soup and know that there is no added fats or anything. Green> > juices would be okay. Now about that coffee, girlfriend, you really> > have to give that up!!! Can you wean yourself off of it? Yeah, you> > will go through some headaches to do it, it's called caffeine> >

withdrawal...Sorry! But drinking coffee constricts the bile ducts and> > you sure don't want to do that when doing a liver flush! You want> > those bile ducts open as far as they will go! No coffee, no, no no.> > (At least through the mouth...a coffee enema is A-okay, but it is> > usually saved for the end to give an extra push to the clean-out.)> > Let me know if you try it.> > Hugs,> > Patty> > > > > >> > I was just wondering if anyone saved the post from Kacey regarding> > lymph drainage. I think it was Kacey. It went something like pushing> > on the feet so many times and then on the chest. I would appreciate> > it if any one has this. Also, I have a question about foods that

can> > be eaten when doing the liver flush. I know you have to be fat free> > but can you have coffee, green juices, soups with vegetables? Also,> > is there a limit as to how much you can eat? I think I would get the> > headache from hell if I couldn't have my coffee. Love, Anita> > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> > happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> >

Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > >

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Hi Beth,

I think it’s like everything else, some treatments are good for some people but not all of us. I would have ended up in the hospital — or the morgue. There is no way to know how many or what size the stones inside us are. I had no warning of pancreatitis before the attack and had no symptoms prior to it. The typical pancreatitis patient is an alcoholic and I don’t drink and I never had any problems with my gallbladder.

If you do the flush at home, just be careful. Most likely you will be fine but if terrible upper quadrant pain develops and doesn’t cease, get to the ER.

Kenda

Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to share my opinion on this. I had an ultrasound several years ago because of abdominal pain. The ultrasound was so painful I was crying. The technician kept going over my liver. I was diagnosed was an enlarged spleen and slightly enlarged liver. Of course I know now that it was due to the implants. My spleen was so painful to the touch that I had to give up underwire bras. My organs were so painful that I could no longer wear jeans and had to wear sweat pants or shorts with elastic. UHGG!

Anyway, my point is, knowing this about myself I don't think that I would ever do a liver flush. I'm too afraid because of the pain I endured from the ultrasound.

My spleen is better since explant. I can actually touch that area now without being in severe pain. A doctor that examined me told me that it would be wise to never drink another alcoholic beverage for the rest of my life!

Beth S.

mikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote:

-

Kenda

You do have to be careful, but the flush can really help with

gallbladder disease. Several people have prevented having their

gallbladders removed by doing these. You have to make sure you

soften the stones by drinking lots of apple juice. However, if you

know that you have large stones, then you are right, it can be more

of a problem, a stone could get stuck. I don't no anything about

pancreatitus so I will defer to you on that. If I knew I had stones

for sure, I would only do a flush in conjunction with a doctor

overseeing it. But most of us don't, and the liver flush is one of

the best things you can do to restore health and I wouldn't want to

discourage people on it. There is a wealth of info on the Hulda

liver flush on the www.curezone.com site and by s Moritz-

-he has his own site too. My brother in law just did a flush as he

was having gallbladder attacks and he passed 500 small stones. He

feels alot better and is planning another one soon. I didn't pass

many--I don't know though because I didnt catch them or anything--

but Isure felt a burst of energy and wellness for a few days. I am

definitely going to do another.

kathy

-- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> > Hi, everyone.

> >

> > Just a warning, if any of you have pancreatitits or gallbladder

disease or

> > symptoms, doing a flush can put you in the hospital or even kill

you. If you

> > have either of these two diseases, you do not want a rush of

gallstones or

> > sludge dumping out of your gallbladder, possibly blocking your

liver and

> > killing you. I as ked my doctor about doing a flush because I

had pancreatitis

> > and he gave me a strong no way and explained the dangers.

> >

> > If you decide to do the flush just be careful and watch for

symptoms of a

> > severe attack. If you have severe upper quadrant pain that

doesn’t get better

> > and doesn’t subside, get to the hospital immediately.

> >

> > If you suspect you have gallstones or sludge, there are safe

medications that

> > will break them down without causing an attack. I ended up in

the hospital 3

> > years ago with an unsuspected pancreatitis attack. All we can

figure is that

> > my liver was very clogged and finally dumped. Although I felt

much better

> > after the attack, the three days in the hospital with morphine

was no fun at

> > all.

> >

> > Be careful, girls.

> >

> ; > Kenda

> >

> >

> > Hi Anita!

> > You can get the same results from a mini-trampoline, or jumping

rope.

> > Have you thought about that?

> >

> > What kind of liver flush are you doing? If you do the full-bore

> > flush, (1/2 cup olive oil and grapefruit juice, the epsom salts

and

> > all that), then you can have a fat free breakfast, light lunch,

and

> > then nothing to eat after 2 pm. I usually fast the whole day and

don't

> > eat anything at all. Soup with veggies would be okay, as long

as you

> > make the soup and know that there is no added fats or anything.

Green

> > juices would be okay. Now about that coffee, girlfriend, you

really

> > have to give that up!!! Can you wean yourself off of it? Yeah,

you

> > will go through some headaches to do it, it's called caffeine

> > withdrawal...Sorry! But drinking coffee constricts the bile

ducts and

> > you sure don't want to do that when doing a liver flush! You want

> > those bile ducts open as far as they will go! No coffee, no, no

no.

> > (At least through the mouth...a coffee enema is A-okay, but it is

> > usually saved for the end to give an extra push to the clean-

out.)

> > Let me know if you try it.

> > Hugs,

> > Patty

> >

> >

> >> > I was just wondering if anyone saved the post from Kacey

regarding

> > lymph drainage. I think it was Kacey. It went something like

pushing

> > on the feet so many times and then on the chest. I would

appreciate

> > it if any one has this. Also, I have a question about foods

that can

> > be eaten when doing the liver flush. I know you have to be fat

free

> > but can you have coffee, green juices, soups with vegetables?

Also,

> > is there a limit as to how much you can eat? I think I would

get the

> > headache from hell if I couldn't have my coffee. Love, Anita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

gt; > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >