Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 >>Jan, Your problem with 's facelift MAY be the same problem I have with it. A facelift is a blatant manifestation of ego dominance, ie; caring about external appearances, creating an image, influencing acceptance via physicality, manipulating one's feelings by means of external changes, risking one's health in order to look younger, getting rid of wrinkles that signal old age which triggers the inevitable " death fear " and revealing the hypocrisy of telling others that they are beautiful when they have physical defects while being dissatisfied with one's own imperfections.<< Eddie, Your problem with your thinking MAY be the same problem I have with it. Thinking is a blatant manifestation of ego dominance, ie; caring about external appearances , creating an image of … Don't you see, that the reasons for a facelift you list here are just a few out of thousands possible others, which others may have? Including doing things for no reason at all? Therefore I think, this list of reasons just mirrors very well the world you are living in and the kind of thoughts you have in your head, nothing else. This has nothing to do with 's world at all! >>I use 's process but I refuse to see her as an enlightened person or spiritual leader. And who knows...maybe that's what she wants from people.<< How come anybody thinks, that is " enlightened " ? I never heard her say that, on the contrary, she used to say, that she does not even know what enlightenment is. (The tricky mind uses that as a proof, that she MUST BE enlightened.) But I would take her serious! Of course her profit organisation wants to make money and they think enlightenment sells, but she does not seem to care much about that. (Therefore she does not give a shit, what people think about her facelift but even talks about it openly). She does what she wants to do. The title of her book " Loving what is " does not mean, that she does not change what she can change!! Believe me, I have watched her closely and I still suffer from her trying changing the things she did not love about me! I don't know anybody who forces changing things with such power, loving them or not! And wanting to change things means not loving them? Who says that? Love Moritz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Moritz, Thanks for the critcism from your " sharp critical mind. " I remained quiet for quite a while about 's facelift--I sat back and watched people try to rationalize her decision. Then I read someone's touching post about their confusion regarding the surgery and decided to add my clarity to the mix. I've never been dougtful or confused about what is an ego decision and what is a decision from a higher level of consciousness. If you research false teacher vs true spiritual leaders you will notice a great contrast. I believe does falsely project an IMAGE of a spiritual leader, and this has nothing what-so-ever to do with the efficacy of the teaching tool she shares (but did not create) with us. Eddie > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is >To: Loving-what-is >Subject: enlightened facelift >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:25:13 -0000 > > >>Jan, >Your problem with 's facelift MAY be the same problem I have >with it. A >facelift is a blatant manifestation of ego dominance, ie; caring >about >external appearances, creating an image, influencing acceptance via >physicality, manipulating one's feelings by means of external >changes, >risking one's health in order to look younger, getting rid of >wrinkles that >signal old age which triggers the inevitable " death fear " and >revealing the >hypocrisy of telling others that they are beautiful when they have >physical >defects while being dissatisfied with one's own imperfections.<< > >Eddie, >Your problem with your thinking MAY be the same problem I have with >it. Thinking is a blatant manifestation of ego dominance, ie; caring >about >external appearances , creating an image of … > >Don't you see, that the reasons for a facelift you list here are >just a few out of thousands possible others, which others may have? >Including doing things for no reason at all? >Therefore I think, this list of reasons just mirrors very well the >world you are living in and the kind of thoughts you have in your >head, nothing else. This has nothing to do with 's world at all! > > >>I use 's process but I refuse to see her as an enlightened >person or >spiritual leader. And who knows...maybe that's what she wants from >people.<< > >How come anybody thinks, that is " enlightened " ? I never heard >her say that, on the contrary, she used to say, that she does not >even know what enlightenment is. (The tricky mind uses that as a >proof, that she MUST BE enlightened.) But I would take her serious! >Of course her profit organisation wants to make money and they think >enlightenment sells, but she does not seem to care much about that. >(Therefore she does not give a shit, what people think about her >facelift but even talks about it openly). She does what she wants to >do. The title of her book " Loving what is " does not mean, that she >does not change what she can change!! Believe me, I have watched her >closely and I still suffer from her trying changing the things she >did not love about me! I don't know anybody who forces changing >things with such power, loving them or not! And wanting to change >things means not loving them? Who says that? > >Love > >Moritz > > _________________________________________________________________ From must-see cities to the best beaches, plan a getaway with the Spring Travel Guide! http://special.msn.com/local/springtravel.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 herself said that she isn't a spiritual leader, so the false projection isn't her's She just asks for questions, that's all, no more, no less, the rest is up to us to make up Take care! - Hans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Dear Hans, I agree, has never made any claims that I am aware of except something like: " I don't know. " " I've learned what hurts and what doesn't " . On the other hand, we now have a " self-proclaimed " person of " clarity " in Eddie. I guess we better start looking to Eddie for our salvation? Since Eddie has never been doubtful or confused, why should we not depend on him for our guidance? Here is my latest addition to my favorite Eddie-ism's " I decided to add my clarity to the mix. I've never been dougtful or confused about what is an ego decision and what is a decision from a higher level of consciousness. " Blessings, Steve D. > > > herself said that she isn't a spiritual leader, so the false > projection isn't her's > > She just asks for questions, that's all, no more, no less, the rest > is up to us to make up > > > Take care! > > - Hans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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