RE: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

[Guest guest]

I have to say that I agree with you

I am tired of the whole " cure " thing to. It has turned this wonderful group

upside down, we are on the brink of looseing our 2 most critical members all

because of one stupid topic. We all know that this topic stirs controversy, yet

people continue to not think before they post. If we know the subject if taboo

then why bring it up and continue to hurt feelings. We are here for support,

not to seperate people into classes of " People who believe there will be a

cure " and the other group that says " There will be no cure anytime soon, just

accept your child " . We face enough opposition in the schools, our doctors

offices, our familys and all the ignorant people in this world. It is really sad

that

we are all taking it out on each other in this group. I love this group

because we can normally post how we feel and rather others agree or not, we are

still adults about it. I have left groups before because of this problem and I

will do it again. We all want the best for our children, that I know for a fact.

PLEASE lets all stop argueing amougts ourselves, that will do our children

no good.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

i agree. people need to be more informed. i know i wasn't before having an

autistic child. but i know when someone was different, not just being wild.

sometimes people would say what a brat loud enough for us to hear, just cause

Abby was crying or getting mad from being over stimulated. you just want to

yell moron get a clue my child isn't a brat she is autistic! you cant cure a

diabetic but med will help. To find thing to help with stomach problems or

such is good. Or meds to help with allergies to foods is good. To give our

kids and aadults med to make them into vegs. bad.

just my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

abby is also afraid of strange or noisey dogs

eric

[Guest guest]

I think we need to grow thicker skins and for those with the evil stares,

flip em the bird, what do you care, you'll never see them again and your

kid's having a good time so screw them. I'm sick of the crap from people

who have no idea what our kids are going through.

Rhonda

Olivia's mom, again

[Guest guest]

abbys only not afraid of dogs that sit there quietly. if they bark thats it

leash or no leash she scared. the barking hurts her ears too. it takes her a

long time to warm up to a dog. my aunts dog is o.k. now cause the dog

learned to wait and not act all execited. now abby loves the dog. i was bite

in

the face by a dog as a child and still am not afraid.

eric

[Guest guest]

IHOP sounds good to me, anything at this point, seeing I didnt make any

dinner yet. LOL

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

IHOP sounds good to me, anything at this point, seeing I didnt make any

dinner yet. LOL

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

AMEN

< Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

I also have to add to my ranting from my previous post. I am sooooo

tired of people saying find a CURE. I am sorry to who this may upset

or offend. THERE WILL NEVER BE A CURE FOR OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE

AUTISTIC. The people I see who have a problem with my daughter and

her autism are for example ----

When we go to the zoo and Ally is running around hyperactive soooo

excited to see the animals. When she gets that excited she will do

some head banging and screaming. Those people looking at us as if we

are aliens. They have disgusted looks on thier face. As if we have

no right to be in a public place. Should I keep her locked up in the

house, so these people do not need to be disturbed??

I am disturbed at people saying find a cure. I think they should

find a cure for themselves, and cure thier ignorance about what

autism is. The fact that all autistc children are not alike, as all

children and adults are not alike. We are all indiviuals with our

own personalities despite what our, " disabilities " are. Has it

crossed these peoples minds to find a way to accept autistic people

into society??? My Ally has a lot to offer the world at any age.

Because our children think and behave differnt does not mean they

should be subjected to hateful looks and comments.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, there are sure some ignorant people in this world. My daughter has

a huge phobia with dogs, which I have mentioned on this list

before......the town we are currently in, which by the way, we are

leaving Friday.......hip pip hoooray......seems to have this newage

feeling that everything should be free, including their dogs, who never

seem to be on leashes.

Hannah is ok, if the dog is on a leash, but as soon as it isn’t, she

screams and put tries to literally climb up my back.

Many times now, I have had to either ask the person to please put the

leash back on.....to this I get weird looks, as I am stupid or

something, then I go one step further and tell them my child is

autistic, and they still give me dumb looks, or looks of pity...i get so

angry with them sometimes, but I end up saying I am sorry, but I can’t

help if my child can’t stand unrestrained dogs!!!! I dread walking down

the street with her now, incase there is one........but we persevere. I

am certainly not going to keep Hannah at home all her life. This is why

I persevere with mainstream school etc.........i could so easily do

homeschool, but I won’t, not yet, as I want her to get out and try and

be a part of society, no matter how small it might be, and I won’t let

other people's " looks " deter me from this. CherylS

Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

i agree. people need to be more informed. i know i wasn't before

having an

autistic child. but i know when someone was different, not just being

wild.

sometimes people would say what a brat loud enough for us to hear, just

cause

Abby was crying or getting mad from being over stimulated. you just

want to

yell moron get a clue my child isn't a brat she is autistic! you cant

cure a

diabetic but med will help. To find thing to help with stomach problems

or

such is good. Or meds to help with allergies to foods is good. To give

our

kids and aadults med to make them into vegs. bad.

just my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

I think it's crazy people don't keep their dogs on leashes. My MIL

lives out in the country but the land goes in strips back behind the

house, so they're close together. It makes me mad every time I take

my kids there and there are dogs running loose. Know one knows if

the dogs might turn on the kids and bite. I don't even trust my own

dogs 100% and I've had them for 7 yrs, never had a problem. Still

they are dogs!

Debi

> Yes, there are sure some ignorant people in this world. My

daughter has

> a huge phobia with dogs, which I have mentioned on this list

> before......the town we are currently in, which by the way, we are

> leaving Friday.......hip pip hoooray......seems to have this newage

> feeling that everything should be free, including their dogs, who

never

> seem to be on leashes.

[Guest guest]

Wow , what a way with words you have-LOL!!!

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

LOL Kassiane, that was funny. Showing the sparrow to other drivers, that was

really funny-hehehehehe

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

Luckily, I haven't had to use the bird yet, I usually save it for

traffic:) But, there's a first time for everything!!!

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Whats all this talk about a bird????

< Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

I know we all would like to " flick the bird " at times, but let's show

some class!!

Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

Luckily, I haven't had to use the bird yet, I usually save it for

traffic:) But, there's a first time for everything!!!

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Kasseine flip the bird means throwing ones middle finger with the

lovely F-word LOL

Reminds me I may have to deal with the child study team again locally

Charlene

-- Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

I know we all would like to " flick the bird " at times, but let's show

some class!!

----- Original Message -----

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[Guest guest]

OH! Ok. Its flicking someone off. Ive never heard it called the bird

before...

Kassiane

who is trying very hard to stop showing the sparrow to fellow drivers

< Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

It's an angry gesture using your middle finger only. Another way to

symbolize go " F*** Yourself!!! Maybe someone else could explain it

better.

Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

Luckily, I haven't had to use the bird yet, I usually save it for

traffic:) But, there's a first time for everything!!!

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

People dont work here in southern colorado much either. Reason......

...welfare and medicaid pays far better then working. This one woman here

has 5 kids and 4 were born on medicaid as they didnt get married until she

was on her 5th so medicaid pay all. Now the husband works on the railroad

and got a raise so now she is pg again with 6th to keep those welfare funds

a coming. I dont know if Australia is like that. I know there stupid

about the bears here and when I went to Rockhampton Australia in march 97

they were big environmentalist too.

Well why dont they pull this environmentalist crap on vaccinations

and crap given to children.

Charlene

-- RE: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

Don’t worry.........the council has threatened to fine people and

everything, it is just the place we live in.........all free and easy,

trees have spirits too didn’t ya know......oops, maybe I should not have

said that.......i might start up an argument.....sorry if your of that

nature...........that is another reason why we are moving out of this

place, to a hard working place, where people don’t sit on the beach all

day and refuse to work........after you see some of these people walking

around town, you see why they don’t work...no one would want them, and

that is a fact. Watch out or I will start ranting and

raving.......better end this now.....lol

CherylS

[Guest guest]

There is a song out there called the bird the word the bird is the

word hehehehe

I never flip anyone off ever I just drive like I own the road LOL

-- Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

OH! Ok. Its flicking someone off. Ive never heard it called the bird

before...

Kassiane

who is trying very hard to stop showing the sparrow to fellow drivers

[Guest guest]

Giving someone " the finger " . I was just being facetious but someone

seemed to think I was serious. I would just rudely tell someone to mind

their own business.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

You cannot undue neurological damage to the brain. Once it is done it is

done.. There is therapy to help overcome sensativities and learn

language. From the studies I have read ASD is not just caused from one

thing. Some say it is only vaccines. Not true my daughter was born

autistic. It was apparent to me when she first looked at me coming out of

the birth canal she was different. My overall point is ------- We as

parents of children with autism and the adults in this group who themselves

have ASD need to accept things the way they are and do the best we can to

help our children or ourselves be the best that they can be. For me and

Ally it is to help her with her anxiety and night terrors. To try to avoid

the noises that hurt her ears or to help her better cope with what she has

to. To help her speech progress to the point where she can express her

needs and maybe even her feelings. To teach her how to be loving and

affectionate and show her that life is about loving each other and

interacting with other people in our families, communities and society in

general. Autism is not cancer that is eating away at our childrens bodies.

It cannot be removed by surgery. You cannot give them chemotherapy or

radiation and kill the " disorder. " Ofcourse I wish that it could be a

possibility. But, in my reality I choose to love and accept Ally the way

she is and help her the best way I know how. We take things one day at a

time and make the best of what we have in everyway, everyday in our lives.

Love

>

>Reply-To: Autism_in_Girls

>To: Autism_in_Girls

>Subject: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

>Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:58:03 -0700

>

>What kind of statement is that???? NEVER????

>

>How exactly do you know this? Are you privy to some information that

>the rest of us are not? Maybe you can give me my lottery numbers since

>you know the future!

>

>10 years ago, doctors told my mother that she had stage 3 ovarian

>cancer, gave her less than 1% chance to live and told her to go home

>and make her arrangements because there was no cure. Well, guess what?

> I did some research and she took my advice, went to a special hospital

>outside the U.S. and within 2 months was cancer free, fired her doctor,

>and has been in perfect health since.

>

>I don't know about anyone else, but

>

> NEVER say NEVER!!

>

>

>

>Mom to , Baby X, Baby Y and Baby Z

>

>

>

>

> > THERE WILL NEVER BE A CURE FOR OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE

> > AUTISTIC. 

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I remember once as a teen we were arguing over just what the middle

finger meant. Some said it meant to go to " that hot place " and

others said it was the F word. I said it must be the F word because

when my parents used to do it to each other they always said " go to

h*** " , so I suppose they were trying to cover all bases.

Happy homes must be so wonderful to grow up in!

Debi

> It's an angry gesture using your middle finger only. Another way

to symbolize go " F*** Yourself!!! Maybe someone else could explain

it better.

[Guest guest]

I know we all would like to " flick the bird " at times, but let's show some

class!!

Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

Luckily, I haven't had to use the bird yet, I usually save it for

traffic:) But, there's a first time for everything!!!

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

There is quite a bit of science out there to show we can re-route

neural pathways around the damaged ones. If this were not true, we

wouldn't work with stroke victims aggressively.

I wouldn't call this a " cure " , but I would refer to it

as " recovering " some functioning that was lost.

Just my 2 cents worth,

PennY

> >

> > > THERE WILL NEVER BE A CURE FOR OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE

> > > AUTISTIC. 

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It's an angry gesture using your middle finger only. Another way to symbolize

go " F*** Yourself!!! Maybe someone else could explain it better.

Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

Luckily, I haven't had to use the bird yet, I usually save it for

traffic:) But, there's a first time for everything!!!

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Well, I like Kassianne's sparrow term. Somehow the sparrow sounds " refreshing " .

hee hee

Re: Re: find a cure for ignorance!!!!!

LOL Kassiane, that was funny. Showing the sparrow to other drivers, that was

really funny-hehehehehe

Pennie

Abby's Mom