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Hi Liz...So happy to hear that you will be explanted shortly!

I was explanted on the 3rd of March. I too was worried about the capsules being left in. My PS told me that I didn't need to remove them because they were only in for 9 Mo. and they were still new. He said the only time he would do "en bloc" was if I was having severe health issues or if my implants were silicone!

He didn't feel it was necessary to remove the whole thing in MY situation.

My only illness has been hair loss. It has not stopped or slowed down since explant. I do know that there have been several women who have had the "en bloc" done and are still having problems with hair loss, so I don't feel like it was that necessary in my case as both end results are still the same.

The reason for this email is that I just emailed Dr. Melmed yesterday about the necessity of removing the capsules and going in for another surgery. His exact reply, "no. they will resolve on the their own."

So if Dr. Melmed was kind enough to put me at ease, I feel comfortable in my decision.

Also, Rogene was correct in that it might slow the healing process. If anyone has experience in this, it would be her and the group. So if you are very sick and need quick recovery than you might want to have the capsules taken out so have a speedier recovery.

I hope this helps you feel a little more at ease for your surgery on Monday. You are going to be so FREE!

I'll be thinking of you,

Marie

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Liz,No one can tell you that you either will, or will not,have problems if the capsules are left in place. It'sbeen our observation that, if a woman gets worse afterexplant, that either the capsules were left behind, orshe had a rupture during surgery. If your implants are contaminated, this contaminatedmaterial will be inside the capsules. Capsules are NOTabsorbed by the body. They can become a reservior fororganisms that your body will continually be fighting.In addition, if the capsules are left behind, theywill be picked up on every mammogram for the rest ofyour life, adding confusion and expense. Apparently you've been fortunate so far. For a fewwomen, a ruptured implant can mean toxic shock! Ifyou're not symptomatic, you're fortunate. Think of it this way. Saline solution has a two-yearshelf life . . . sitting in a sealed bottle on adruggist shelf. . . What happens to it, in a warm darkplace, full of biological material?The safest thing to do is to remove the implants "enbloc" . . . that is, remove the capsules with theimplants still inside. The surgeon can make it easierby draining the saline off with a needle first. Thedrains following surgery serve to prevent fluidbuildup that can be both painful and dangerous. . .Some women have required additional surgery becausedrains weren't used. Once you see what comes out ofthem, you'll be glad you had them.Many doctors would prefer to leave the capsule there.It takes them more time and expertise to remove thecapsule. If it was me, if the plastic surgeon refusedto remove the capsules, I would find another doctor. But, I can't make the decision for you. I can onlytell you my opinion and give you what information wehave. Please consider your options carefully. We'll be praying that whatever your choice is, thatyou'll have a speedy recovery!Hugs and prayers,RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Marie,

Could you please do me a huge favor???

Could you please email Dr. Melmed and ask him what evidence he has

that implant capsules " resolve on their own " ?

I have asked him to show me some kind of study to support this view,

and he did not reply.

I am not asking this to make anyone uncomfortable...I just want the

truth. I know what Dr. Blais has said about retained scar capsules,

and it is not consistent with Dr. Melmed's assertion that they

resolve on their own. I just want to know why he makes this claim,

and what proof we can offer to women who ask this very question.

Thanks Marie!

Patty

> Hi Liz...So happy to hear that you will be explanted shortly!

>

> I was explanted on the 3rd of March. I too was worried about the

capsules being left in. My PS told me that I didn't need to remove

them because they were only in for 9 Mo. and they were still new.

He said the only time he would do " en bloc " was if I was having

severe health issues or if my implants were silicone!

>

> He didn't feel it was necessary to remove the whole thing in MY

situation.

>

> My only illness has been hair loss. It has not stopped or slowed

down since explant. I do know that there have been several women

who have had the " en bloc " done and are still having problems with

hair loss, so I don't feel like it was that necessary in my case as

both end results are still the same.

>

> The reason for this email is that I just emailed Dr. Melmed

yesterday about the necessity of removing the capsules and going in

for another surgery. His exact reply, " no. they will resolve on

the their own. "

>

> So if Dr. Melmed was kind enough to put me at ease, I feel

comfortable in my decision.

>

> Also, Rogene was correct in that it might slow the healing

process. If anyone has experience in this, it would be her and the

group. So if you are very sick and need quick recovery than you

might want to have the capsules taken out so have a speedier

recovery.

>

> I hope this helps you feel a little more at ease for your surgery

on Monday. You are going to be so FREE!

>

> I'll be thinking of you,

>

> Marie

> Re: explant

>

>

> Liz,

>

> No one can tell you that you either will, or will not,

> have problems if the capsules are left in place. It's

> been our observation that, if a woman gets worse after

> explant, that either the capsules were left behind, or

> she had a rupture during surgery.

>

> If your implants are contaminated, this contaminated

> material will be inside the capsules. Capsules are NOT

> absorbed by the body. They can become a reservior for

> organisms that your body will continually be fighting.

> In addition, if the capsules are left behind, they

> will be picked up on every mammogram for the rest of

> your life, adding confusion and expense.

>

> Apparently you've been fortunate so far. For a few

> women, a ruptured implant can mean toxic shock! If

> you're not symptomatic, you're fortunate.

>

> Think of it this way. Saline solution has a two-year

> shelf life . . . sitting in a sealed bottle on a

> druggist shelf. . . What happens to it, in a warm dark

> place, full of biological material?

>

> The safest thing to do is to remove the implants " en

> bloc " . . . that is, remove the capsules with the

> implants still inside. The surgeon can make it easier

> by draining the saline off with a needle first. The

> drains following surgery serve to prevent fluid

> buildup that can be both painful and dangerous. . .

> Some women have required additional surgery because

> drains weren't used. Once you see what comes out of

> them, you'll be glad you had them.

>

> Many doctors would prefer to leave the capsule there.

> It takes them more time and expertise to remove the

> capsule. If it was me, if the plastic surgeon refused

> to remove the capsules, I would find another doctor.

>

> But, I can't make the decision for you. I can only

> tell you my opinion and give you what information we

> have. Please consider your options carefully.

>

> We'll be praying that whatever your choice is, that

> you'll have a speedy recovery!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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HAS THIS ISSUE BEEN RESOLVED YET? Now I am confused because I have

appt with Dr. M on 4/29 but I thought always that the explants took

everything out...the idea is not to keep anything foreign inside me.

Is this consistent with what other doctors say or do as well? I.E.

does Dr. Kolb and Dr. Feng sometimes keep capsules in? I don't even

know if I understand how it works with the capsules....I am so

ignorant I just thought the bags were just put in there I guess...what

exactly are the capsules? Mine were saline implants but obviously in

silicone bags....sorry to be so stupid here, but if I am going to have

surgery I want to be sure that everything is taken out...

> > Hi Liz...So happy to hear that you will be explanted shortly!

> >

> > I was explanted on the 3rd of March. I too was worried about the

> capsules being left in. My PS told me that I didn't need to remove

> them because they were only in for 9 Mo. and they were still new.

> He said the only time he would do " en bloc " was if I was having

> severe health issues or if my implants were silicone!

> >

> > He didn't feel it was necessary to remove the whole thing in MY

> situation.

> >

> > My only illness has been hair loss. It has not stopped or slowed

> down since explant. I do know that there have been several women

> who have had the " en bloc " done and are still having problems with

> hair loss, so I don't feel like it was that necessary in my case as

> both end results are still the same.

> >

> > The reason for this email is that I just emailed Dr. Melmed

> yesterday about the necessity of removing the capsules and going in

> for another surgery. His exact reply, " no. they will resolve on

> the their own. "

> >

> > So if Dr. Melmed was kind enough to put me at ease, I feel

> comfortable in my decision.

> >

> > Also, Rogene was correct in that it might slow the healing

> process. If anyone has experience in this, it would be her and the

> group. So if you are very sick and need quick recovery than you

> might want to have the capsules taken out so have a speedier

> recovery.

> >

> > I hope this helps you feel a little more at ease for your surgery

> on Monday. You are going to be so FREE!

> >

> > I'll be thinking of you,

> >

> > Marie

> > Re: explant

> >

> >

> > Liz,

> >

> > No one can tell you that you either will, or will not,

> > have problems if the capsules are left in place. It's

> > been our observation that, if a woman gets worse after

> > explant, that either the capsules were left behind, or

> > she had a rupture during surgery.

> >

> > If your implants are contaminated, this contaminated

> > material will be inside the capsules. Capsules are NOT

> > absorbed by the body. They can become a reservior for

> > organisms that your body will continually be fighting.

> > In addition, if the capsules are left behind, they

> > will be picked up on every mammogram for the rest of

> > your life, adding confusion and expense.

> >

> > Apparently you've been fortunate so far. For a few

> > women, a ruptured implant can mean toxic shock! If

> > you're not symptomatic, you're fortunate.

> >

> > Think of it this way. Saline solution has a two-year

> > shelf life . . . sitting in a sealed bottle on a

> > druggist shelf. . . What happens to it, in a warm dark

> > place, full of biological material?

> >

> > The safest thing to do is to remove the implants " en

> > bloc " . . . that is, remove the capsules with the

> > implants still inside. The surgeon can make it easier

> > by draining the saline off with a needle first. The

> > drains following surgery serve to prevent fluid

> > buildup that can be both painful and dangerous. . .

> > Some women have required additional surgery because

> > drains weren't used. Once you see what comes out of

> > them, you'll be glad you had them.

> >

> > Many doctors would prefer to leave the capsule there.

> > It takes them more time and expertise to remove the

> > capsule. If it was me, if the plastic surgeon refused

> > to remove the capsules, I would find another doctor.

> >

> > But, I can't make the decision for you. I can only

> > tell you my opinion and give you what information we

> > have. Please consider your options carefully.

> >

> > We'll be praying that whatever your choice is, that

> > you'll have a speedy recovery!

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

> or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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> > > Hi Liz...So happy to hear that you will be explanted shortly!

> > >

> > > I was explanted on the 3rd of March. I too was worried about

the

> > capsules being left in. My PS told me that I didn't need to

remove

> > them because they were only in for 9 Mo. and they were still

new.

> > He said the only time he would do " en bloc " was if I was having

> > severe health issues or if my implants were silicone!

> > >

> > > He didn't feel it was necessary to remove the whole thing in

MY

> > situation.

> > >

> > > My only illness has been hair loss. It has not stopped or

slowed

> > down since explant. I do know that there have been several

women

> > who have had the " en bloc " done and are still having problems

with

> > hair loss, so I don't feel like it was that necessary in my case

as

> > both end results are still the same.

> > >

> > > The reason for this email is that I just emailed Dr. Melmed

> > yesterday about the necessity of removing the capsules and going

in

> > for another surgery. His exact reply, " no. they will resolve

on

> > the their own. "

> > >

> > > So if Dr. Melmed was kind enough to put me at ease, I feel

> > comfortable in my decision.

> > >

> > > Also, Rogene was correct in that it might slow the healing

> > process. If anyone has experience in this, it would be her and

the

> > group. So if you are very sick and need quick recovery than you

> > might want to have the capsules taken out so have a speedier

> > recovery.

> > >

> > > I hope this helps you feel a little more at ease for your

surgery

> > on Monday. You are going to be so FREE!

> > >

> > > I'll be thinking of you,

> > >

> > > Marie

> > > Re: explant

> > >

> > >

> > > Liz,

> > >

> > > No one can tell you that you either will, or will not,

> > > have problems if the capsules are left in place. It's

> > > been our observation that, if a woman gets worse after

> > > explant, that either the capsules were left behind, or

> > > she had a rupture during surgery.

> > >

> > > If your implants are contaminated, this contaminated

> > > material will be inside the capsules. Capsules are NOT

> > > absorbed by the body. They can become a reservior for

> > > organisms that your body will continually be fighting.

> > > In addition, if the capsules are left behind, they

> > > will be picked up on every mammogram for the rest of

> > > your life, adding confusion and expense.

> > >

> > > Apparently you've been fortunate so far. For a few

> > > women, a ruptured implant can mean toxic shock! If

> > > you're not symptomatic, you're fortunate.

> > >

> > > Think of it this way. Saline solution has a two-year

> > > shelf life . . . sitting in a sealed bottle on a

> > > druggist shelf. . . What happens to it, in a warm dark

> > > place, full of biological material?

> > >

> > > The safest thing to do is to remove the implants " en

> > > bloc " . . . that is, remove the capsules with the

> > > implants still inside. The surgeon can make it easier

> > > by draining the saline off with a needle first. The

> > > drains following surgery serve to prevent fluid

> > > buildup that can be both painful and dangerous. . .

> > > Some women have required additional surgery because

> > > drains weren't used. Once you see what comes out of

> > > them, you'll be glad you had them.

> > >

> > > Many doctors would prefer to leave the capsule there.

> > > It takes them more time and expertise to remove the

> > > capsule. If it was me, if the plastic surgeon refused

> > > to remove the capsules, I would find another doctor.

> > >

> > > But, I can't make the decision for you. I can only

> > > tell you my opinion and give you what information we

> > > have. Please consider your options carefully.

> > >

> > > We'll be praying that whatever your choice is, that

> > > you'll have a speedy recovery!

> > >

> > > Hugs and prayers,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

physician

> > or licensed health care professional before commencing any

medical

> > treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

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Hello

I explanted with Dr kolb and had saline, thin capsules. She did

capsulotomy and had told me that if there is any disease, or any

reaction your body is having to the capsules, it is because of

retained chemicals in the scar capsules which are formed after the

implants are put in.

I had other surgeons refuse to remove my capsules and tell me the

capsules would resolve on their own, but if there was a problem

they'd be happy to do a 2nd operation to fix the problem or remove

the blood clots, cysts, or capsule when the complication occurred.

Some people may have no complicaton and others might have it. If

you email dr kolb at plastikos.com, she will respond and tellyou

what she thinks about the scar capsules coming out vs. staying in.

> > > Hi Liz...So happy to hear that you will be explanted shortly!

> > >

> > > I was explanted on the 3rd of March. I too was worried about

the

> > capsules being left in. My PS told me that I didn't need to

remove

> > them because they were only in for 9 Mo. and they were still

new.

> > He said the only time he would do " en bloc " was if I was having

> > severe health issues or if my implants were silicone!

> > >

> > > He didn't feel it was necessary to remove the whole thing in

MY

> > situation.

> > >

> > > My only illness has been hair loss. It has not stopped or

slowed

> > down since explant. I do know that there have been several

women

> > who have had the " en bloc " done and are still having problems

with

> > hair loss, so I don't feel like it was that necessary in my case

as

> > both end results are still the same.

> > >

> > > The reason for this email is that I just emailed Dr. Melmed

> > yesterday about the necessity of removing the capsules and going

in

> > for another surgery. His exact reply, " no. they will resolve

on

> > the their own. "

> > >

> > > So if Dr. Melmed was kind enough to put me at ease, I feel

> > comfortable in my decision.

> > >

> > > Also, Rogene was correct in that it might slow the healing

> > process. If anyone has experience in this, it would be her and

the

> > group. So if you are very sick and need quick recovery than you

> > might want to have the capsules taken out so have a speedier

> > recovery.

> > >

> > > I hope this helps you feel a little more at ease for your

surgery

> > on Monday. You are going to be so FREE!

> > >

> > > I'll be thinking of you,

> > >

> > > Marie

> > > Re: explant

> > >

> > >

> > > Liz,

> > >

> > > No one can tell you that you either will, or will not,

> > > have problems if the capsules are left in place. It's

> > > been our observation that, if a woman gets worse after

> > > explant, that either the capsules were left behind, or

> > > she had a rupture during surgery.

> > >

> > > If your implants are contaminated, this contaminated

> > > material will be inside the capsules. Capsules are NOT

> > > absorbed by the body. They can become a reservior for

> > > organisms that your body will continually be fighting.

> > > In addition, if the capsules are left behind, they

> > > will be picked up on every mammogram for the rest of

> > > your life, adding confusion and expense.

> > >

> > > Apparently you've been fortunate so far. For a few

> > > women, a ruptured implant can mean toxic shock! If

> > > you're not symptomatic, you're fortunate.

> > >

> > > Think of it this way. Saline solution has a two-year

> > > shelf life . . . sitting in a sealed bottle on a

> > > druggist shelf. . . What happens to it, in a warm dark

> > > place, full of biological material?

> > >

> > > The safest thing to do is to remove the implants " en

> > > bloc " . . . that is, remove the capsules with the

> > > implants still inside. The surgeon can make it easier

> > > by draining the saline off with a needle first. The

> > > drains following surgery serve to prevent fluid

> > > buildup that can be both painful and dangerous. . .

> > > Some women have required additional surgery because

> > > drains weren't used. Once you see what comes out of

> > > them, you'll be glad you had them.

> > >

> > > Many doctors would prefer to leave the capsule there.

> > > It takes them more time and expertise to remove the

> > > capsule. If it was me, if the plastic surgeon refused

> > > to remove the capsules, I would find another doctor.

> > >

> > > But, I can't make the decision for you. I can only

> > > tell you my opinion and give you what information we

> > > have. Please consider your options carefully.

> > >

> > > We'll be praying that whatever your choice is, that

> > > you'll have a speedy recovery!

> > >

> > > Hugs and prayers,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

physician

> > or licensed health care professional before commencing any

medical

> > treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

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Dr. Melmed recently told me that he always removes

capsules to the extent that further removal may cause

injury (I'm paraphrasing) . . . I take this to mean

that he won't risk cutting into a blood vessel or

nerve, etc.

But get it straight from Dr. Melmed.

He'll be at the FDA hearings, so it may be a few days

before you hear from him. He will be talking to Dr.

Blais while there.

This may be interesting!

Hugs,

Rogene

> > > Hi Liz...So happy to hear that you will be

> explanted shortly!

> > >

> > > I was explanted on the 3rd of March. I too was

> worried about the

> > capsules being left in. My PS told me that I

> didn't need to remove

> > them because they were only in for 9 Mo. and they

> were still new.

> > He said the only time he would do " en bloc " was if

> I was having

> > severe health issues or if my implants were

> silicone!

> > >

> > > He didn't feel it was necessary to remove the

> whole thing in MY

> > situation.

> > >

> > > My only illness has been hair loss. It has not

> stopped or slowed

> > down since explant. I do know that there have

> been several women

> > who have had the " en bloc " done and are still

> having problems with

> > hair loss, so I don't feel like it was that

> necessary in my case as

> > both end results are still the same.

> > >

> > > The reason for this email is that I just emailed

> Dr. Melmed

> > yesterday about the necessity of removing the

> capsules and going in

> > for another surgery. His exact reply, " no. they

> will resolve on

> > the their own. "

> > >

> > > So if Dr. Melmed was kind enough to put me at

> ease, I feel

> > comfortable in my decision.

> > >

> > > Also, Rogene was correct in that it might slow

> the healing

> > process. If anyone has experience in this, it

> would be her and the

> > group. So if you are very sick and need quick

> recovery than you

> > might want to have the capsules taken out so have

> a speedier

> > recovery.

> > >

> > > I hope this helps you feel a little more at ease

> for your surgery

> > on Monday. You are going to be so FREE!

> > >

> > > I'll be thinking of you,

> > >

> > > Marie

> > > Re: explant

> > >

> > >

> > > Liz,

> > >

> > > No one can tell you that you either will, or

> will not,

> > > have problems if the capsules are left in

> place. It's

> > > been our observation that, if a woman gets

> worse after

> > > explant, that either the capsules were left

> behind, or

> > > she had a rupture during surgery.

> > >

> > > If your implants are contaminated, this

> contaminated

> > > material will be inside the capsules. Capsules

> are NOT

> > > absorbed by the body. They can become a

> reservior for

> > > organisms that your body will continually be

> fighting.

> > > In addition, if the capsules are left behind,

> they

> > > will be picked up on every mammogram for the

> rest of

> > > your life, adding confusion and expense.

> > >

> > > Apparently you've been fortunate so far. For a

> few

> > > women, a ruptured implant can mean toxic

> shock! If

> > > you're not symptomatic, you're fortunate.

> > >

> > > Think of it this way. Saline solution has a

> two-year

> > > shelf life . . . sitting in a sealed bottle on

> a

> > > druggist shelf. . . What happens to it, in a

> warm dark

> > > place, full of biological material?

> > >

> > > The safest thing to do is to remove the

> implants " en

> > > bloc " . . . that is, remove the capsules with

> the

> > > implants still inside. The surgeon can make it

> easier

> > > by draining the saline off with a needle

> first. The

> > > drains following surgery serve to prevent

> fluid

> > > buildup that can be both painful and

> dangerous. . .

> > > Some women have required additional surgery

> because

> > > drains weren't used. Once you see what comes

> out of

> > > them, you'll be glad you had them.

> > >

> > > Many doctors would prefer to leave the capsule

> there.

> > > It takes them more time and expertise to

> remove the

> > > capsule. If it was me, if the plastic surgeon

> refused

> > > to remove the capsules, I would find another

> doctor.

> > >

> > > But, I can't make the decision for you. I can

> only

> > > tell you my opinion and give you what

> information we

> > > have. Please consider your options carefully.

> > >

> > > We'll be praying that whatever your choice is,

> that

> > > you'll have a speedy recovery!

> > >

> > > Hugs and prayers,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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LIZ, I had the en bloc capsule removal with my explant surgery on

3/30 with Dr. M. You said in your message that you did not

understand what the capsules were. Here's my best understanding:

When a foreign body is in our bodies, our bodies want to protect our

flesh from it. It's foreign, not flesh, and so our bodies form a

protective covering around the foreign body, the implant. This

creates a capsule or container for the implants, and supposedly will

protect the body from further invasion. It's a bit like an egg

shell around the egg, so to speak. And in some women, it does

become a hard shell encasing the implants. The dr. said mine were

hard, leathery, and thick. He said my body had really reacted to my

implants, trying to protect the body from the implants. So, if the

implants can leak, or infection is present, then it could be

possible for the infection or the silicone if silicone implants to

leak into the capsule around the implant. As we know from other

women sharing, sometimes the leakage is even more serious.

But as far as me deciding to have the en bloc, it was to insure that

the dr. would remove all the tissue that might have infection or

implant materials in it. The capsule was also hard and leathery, so

it's my opinion that the body would have taken its time digesting

all that leathery stuff, and it could have caused me discomfort or

pain further. Each woman's case is individual, so I'm not preaching

here, just sharing what happened to me. In my case, the capsule on

the left breast was more " stuck " than the right, and I continue to

have some post-op swelling that I really don't like. But I'm

thrilled everything that was implant or connected to the implants is

out!! My energy level is coming back incredibly...I'm just very

happy to be here....hope I helped some....Jackie

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Jackie,

Good description! . . . I want to add something I was

told. . .

The capsule has a blood supply, so it's not as

innocent, or as protective, as it might seem. The

blood supply allows contaminents to be taken up and

distributed through the body. Of course, blood is

cleansed by the liver . . . so, if the liver is doing

it's job, toxins accumulate there.

These amounts may be very small, but as time goes by,

and the implant degrades, the amount grows

increasingly larger.

How can the medical profession NOT understand this?

It's insane!

Hugs,

Rogene

--- crazycanoe1 <crazycanoe1@...> wrote:

>

> LIZ, I had the en bloc capsule removal with my

> explant surgery on

> 3/30 with Dr. M. You said in your message that you

> did not

> understand what the capsules were. Here's my best

> understanding:

> When a foreign body is in our bodies, our bodies

> want to protect our

> flesh from it. It's foreign, not flesh, and so our

> bodies form a

> protective covering around the foreign body, the

> implant. This

> creates a capsule or container for the implants, and

> supposedly will

> protect the body from further invasion. It's a bit

> like an egg

> shell around the egg, so to speak. And in some

> women, it does

> become a hard shell encasing the implants. The dr.

> said mine were

> hard, leathery, and thick. He said my body had

> really reacted to my

> implants, trying to protect the body from the

> implants. So, if the

> implants can leak, or infection is present, then it

> could be

> possible for the infection or the silicone if

> silicone implants to

> leak into the capsule around the implant. As we

> know from other

> women sharing, sometimes the leakage is even more

> serious.

> But as far as me deciding to have the en bloc, it

> was to insure that

> the dr. would remove all the tissue that might have

> infection or

> implant materials in it. The capsule was also hard

> and leathery, so

> it's my opinion that the body would have taken its

> time digesting

> all that leathery stuff, and it could have caused me

> discomfort or

> pain further. Each woman's case is individual, so

> I'm not preaching

> here, just sharing what happened to me. In my case,

> the capsule on

> the left breast was more " stuck " than the right, and

> I continue to

> have some post-op swelling that I really don't like.

> But I'm

> thrilled everything that was implant or connected to

> the implants is

> out!! My energy level is coming back

> incredibly...I'm just very

> happy to be here....hope I helped some....Jackie

>

>

>

>

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That seems so basic doesn't it...

GT

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Jackie,

>

> Good description! . . . I want to add something I

> was

> told. . .

>

> The capsule has a blood supply, so it's not as

> innocent, or as protective, as it might seem. The

> blood supply allows contaminents to be taken up and

> distributed through the body. Of course, blood is

> cleansed by the liver . . . so, if the liver is

> doing

> it's job, toxins accumulate there.

>

> These amounts may be very small, but as time goes

> by,

> and the implant degrades, the amount grows

> increasingly larger.

>

> How can the medical profession NOT understand this?

> It's insane!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

> --- crazycanoe1 <crazycanoe1@...> wrote:

> >

> > LIZ, I had the en bloc capsule removal with my

> > explant surgery on

> > 3/30 with Dr. M. You said in your message that

> you

> > did not

> > understand what the capsules were. Here's my best

> > understanding:

> > When a foreign body is in our bodies, our bodies

> > want to protect our

> > flesh from it. It's foreign, not flesh, and so

> our

> > bodies form a

> > protective covering around the foreign body, the

> > implant. This

> > creates a capsule or container for the implants,

> and

> > supposedly will

> > protect the body from further invasion. It's a

> bit

> > like an egg

> > shell around the egg, so to speak. And in some

> > women, it does

> > become a hard shell encasing the implants. The

> dr.

> > said mine were

> > hard, leathery, and thick. He said my body had

> > really reacted to my

> > implants, trying to protect the body from the

> > implants. So, if the

> > implants can leak, or infection is present, then

> it

> > could be

> > possible for the infection or the silicone if

> > silicone implants to

> > leak into the capsule around the implant. As we

> > know from other

> > women sharing, sometimes the leakage is even more

> > serious.

> > But as far as me deciding to have the en bloc, it

> > was to insure that

> > the dr. would remove all the tissue that might

> have

> > infection or

> > implant materials in it. The capsule was also

> hard

> > and leathery, so

> > it's my opinion that the body would have taken its

> > time digesting

> > all that leathery stuff, and it could have caused

> me

> > discomfort or

> > pain further. Each woman's case is individual, so

> > I'm not preaching

> > here, just sharing what happened to me. In my

> case,

> > the capsule on

> > the left breast was more " stuck " than the right,

> and

> > I continue to

> > have some post-op swelling that I really don't

> like.

> > But I'm

> > thrilled everything that was implant or connected

> to

> > the implants is

> > out!! My energy level is coming back

> > incredibly...I'm just very

> > happy to be here....hope I helped some....Jackie

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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