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Hi Anita,

I am doing great, thanks for asking! My parents are still in town,

and we've been eating too much...when they go home, I will be able

to begin a dedicated detox program, and I am looking forward to it.

I can tell a difference when my healthy diet takes a back burner.

I am sorry to hear about your bronchitis! You gave me a laugh this

morning though with your quip about the Quack Care aka Quick Care!

That's so funny! i hope you won't have to be on the antibiotics

long. It's not the end of the world, of course, and I hope it helps

you kick what you have, and then you can get on some good probiotics.

I will be doing a liver flush as well, so I'll join you! I am happy

to hear you are going to be able to start the IV's for your precious

son, and I really hope it begins to kick in and help him alot. Poor

guy. I hope Dr. is good to you too. Did you have a talk

with him?

Here is that info from Kacey that you reposted a few weeks ago:

Re: draining the lymph system (Lymphatic

pump)

The information on the Lymph system is really interesting! My

doctor does a " lymphatic pump " on me every time I walk into the

office, and I never quite understood why (but I TRY EVERYTHING).

The lymphatic pump is really simple. You lie on your back and

someone pushes the tops of your feet forward in a pumping motion for

one minute (or about 60 pumps). Then you intertwine your fingers

over your chest (just above your breasts), take a deep breath, and

as you breath out slowly, the person is at your head with her hands

on top of your hands and is pushing. When you take a breath again,

the person stops pushing. You repeat the foot pumps for one more

minute, and then she presses on your chest again.

Very simple, but it supposedly really, really helps release toxins.

They have read and seen some great results before.

Take care,

Kacey

Anita, I still want to be able to have you and Daryl over to my

house for a get together...la, you can join us too if you

have moved to Vegas!

Hugs,

Patty

> Hey Patty,

> How is everything going with you?

> The lymph drainage I wanted to try consisted of a pumping motion

on the feet and then somewhere on the chest. I believe it was

posted by Kacey. She said her doctor did it every time she saw

him. I just can't remember exactly how it was done. I must have

mistakenly deleted it.

> Anyway, I am going to do Hulda 's liver flush. Right now

though I am battling bronchitis. I got so bad on Saturday I had to

give in and go to Quack Care. So now I'm on antibiotics and my body

is rebelling. I will do the liver flush as soon as I kick this and

let you know how it goes I admit I'm a coffee addict and really

need to ween myself off of it. I guess I better start now if I'm

going to do the flush.

> My son has an appointment with Dr. next Wednesday so we

can start the IV's again. I spoke to him and he uses the right

brands of glutathione and phosphotydlcholine. I'm tempted to have

my son do the liver flush too but I'm afraid he will herx too

badly. He is so sensitive that even things like salt and cinnamon

give him a headache so I don't know if drinking the eqsom salts

would sit well with him. Take care Patty. Love, Anita

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Thanks Patty. I must have deleted it when I posted it. I did speak to Dr. and he was very nice so hopefully all will go smoothly. I am sending for some Kefir culture from a place called G.E.M. cultures. Dr. Kane recommended it. It is her opinion that the lactic acid bacteria are the best. Just thought I'd share that in case you want to try it. I will give you the info if you do. Love, Anita Re: draining the lymph system (Lymphatic pump)The information on the Lymph system is really interesting! My doctor does a "lymphatic pump" on me every time I walk into the office, and I never quite understood why (but I TRY EVERYTHING). The lymphatic pump is really simple. You lie on your back and someone pushes the tops of your feet forward in a pumping motion for one minute (or about 60 pumps). Then you intertwine your fingers over your chest (just above your breasts), take a deep breath, and as you breath out slowly, the person is at your head with her hands on top of your hands and is pushing. When you take a breath again, the person stops pushing. You repeat the foot pumps for one more minute, and then she presses on your chest again. Very simple, but it supposedly really, really helps release toxins. They have read and seen some great results before.Take care,KaceyAnita, I still want to be able to have you and Daryl over to my house for a get together...la, you can join us too if you have moved to Vegas!Hugs,Patty> Hey Patty,> How is everything going with you? > The lymph drainage I wanted to try consisted of a pumping motion on the feet and then somewhere on the chest. I believe it was posted by Kacey. She said her doctor did it every time she saw him. I just can't remember exactly how it was done. I must have mistakenly deleted it.> Anyway, I am going to do Hulda 's liver flush. Right now though I am battling bronchitis. I got so bad on Saturday I had to give in and go to Quack Care. So now I'm on antibiotics and my body is rebelling. I will do the liver flush as soon as I kick this and let you know how it goes I admit I'm a coffee addict and really need to ween myself off of it. I guess I better start now if I'm going to do the flush. > My son has an appointment with Dr. next Wednesday so we can start the IV's again. I spoke to him and he uses the right brands of glutathione and phosphotydlcholine. I'm tempted to have my son do the liver flush too but I'm afraid he will herx too badly. He is so sensitive that even things like salt and cinnamon give him a headache so I don't know if drinking the eqsom salts would sit well with him. Take care Patty. Love, Anita

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Hi Anita,

I hope all goes well with Dr. ...let me know!

I bought some kefir culture last year from Wilderness Family

Naturals. It came in the sweltering heat of August, and sat out in

the heat probably for a couple hours...UPS just dropped the box at

my front door. When I picked up the box, it was HOT. Of course, the

box of kefir culture says, " Keep refrigerated. " Hmph. I wasn't too

happy about that whole experience. If I remember right the culture

wasn't that cheap. I think I paid over $25 for it!

I threw the box in the fridge and well, just left it there. I

probably need to try to make it. Either that or ask the company to

send me some new stuff because I think the heat destroyed it.

Tell me more about the stuff you are getting. (make sure they

package it right and don't send in the middle of summer!) I have

been making goat milk yogurt, as Dr. Jordan Rubin recommends that

yogurt over all others. He says there is a problem with one of the

cultures found in most commercial yogurts... " Streptococcus

thermophilus " , which can aggravate the autoimmune disease process if

you eat alot of it. (So he says....I'll try the goat milk yogurt!) I

wonder if the kefir has that? I can't tell from my box.

After my parents leave and I can get back on track with proper

eating habits, I will be trying to eat alot of fermented foods.

Actually, I need to try to teach them as well, but they are pretty

set in their dietary ways.

Thanks Anita,

Love,

Patty

> Thanks Patty. I must have deleted it when I posted it. I did

speak to Dr. and he was very nice so hopefully all will go

smoothly. I am sending for some Kefir culture from a place called

G.E.M. cultures. Dr. Kane recommended it. It is her opinion that

the lactic acid bacteria are the best. Just thought I'd share that

in case you want to try it. I will give you the info if you do.

Love, Anita

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Hi Patty, I think you might like G.E.M. cultures. They have all kinds of cultures available. Some I have never heard of and wouldn't know what to do with. She has a website www.gemcultures.com . They have kombucha tea fungus, sourdough (the brown rice one is gluten free) and things like nigari, terra alba,koji, amazake. You're not going to believe this but I put the lymph drainage instructions in a folder and later when I went to read it it disappeared when I clicked on it! Could you send it again? No rush. I'm weaning myself off coffee so I can do the liver flush and we see Dr. next Wednesday. I'll let you know how it goes. Love, Anita Re: lymph drainage and liver detox, Anita Hi Anita,I hope all goes well with Dr. ...let me know!I bought some kefir culture last year from Wilderness Family Naturals. It came in the sweltering heat of August, and sat out in the heat probably for a couple hours...UPS just dropped the box at my front door. When I picked up the box, it was HOT. Of course, the box of kefir culture says, "Keep refrigerated." Hmph. I wasn't too happy about that whole experience. If I remember right the culture wasn't that cheap. I think I paid over $25 for it!I threw the box in the fridge and well, just left it there. I probably need to try to make it. Either that or ask the company to send me some new stuff because I think the heat destroyed it.Tell me more about the stuff you are getting. (make sure they package it right and don't send in the middle of summer!) I have been making goat milk yogurt, as Dr. Jordan Rubin recommends that yogurt over all others He says there is a problem with one of the cultures found in most commercial yogurts..."Streptococcus thermophilus", which can aggravate the autoimmune disease process if you eat alot of it. (So he says....I'll try the goat milk yogurt!) I wonder if the kefir has that? I can't tell from my box. After my parents leave and I can get back on track with proper eating habits, I will be trying to eat alot of fermented foods. Actually, I need to try to teach them as well, but they are pretty set in their dietary ways. Thanks Anita,Love,Patty> Thanks Patty I must have deleted it when I posted it. I did speak to Dr. and he was very nice so hopefully all will go smoothly. I am sending for some Kefir culture from a place called G.E.M. cultures. Dr. Kane recommended it. It is her opinion that the lactic acid bacteria are the best. Just thought I'd share that in case you want to try it. I will give you the info if you do. Love, Anita >

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Anita,

The gemcultures website looks really interesting!

I wish I could work up some interest in preparing

foods this way. . . I have a hard enough time just

getting in the kitchen to do the regular stuff! Just

ask my hubby . . .

Funny story . . . among us old retired folks, you find

some who don't cook AT ALL! . . . One couple was

telling me about designing their dream home . . . They

had the plans all laid out . . . thought they were

done, and realized they didn't have a kitchen! Duh! .

.. At least I can do better than that!

Love,

Rogene

--- anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

> Hi Patty,

> I think you might like G.E.M. cultures. They have

> all kinds of cultures available. Some I have never

> heard of and wouldn't know what to do with. She has

> a website www.gemcultures.com . They have

> kombucha tea fungus, sourdough (the brown rice one

> is gluten free) and things like nigari, terra

> alba,koji, amazake. You're not going to believe

> this but I put the lymph drainage instructions in a

> folder and later when I went to read it it

> disappeared when I clicked on it! Could you send it

> again? No rush.

> I'm weaning myself off coffee so I can do the liver

> flush and we see Dr. next Wednesday. I'll

> let you know how it goes. Love, Anita

>

> Re: lymph drainage and

> liver detox, Anita

>

>

>

> Hi Anita,

> I hope all goes well with Dr. ...let me

> know!

>

> I bought some kefir culture last year from

> Wilderness Family

> Naturals. It came in the sweltering heat of August,

> and sat out in

> the heat probably for a couple hours...UPS just

> dropped the box at

> my front door. When I picked up the box, it was HOT.

> Of course, the

> box of kefir culture says, " Keep refrigerated. "

> Hmph. I wasn't too

> happy about that whole experience. If I remember

> right the culture

> wasn't that cheap. I think I paid over $25 for it!

>

> I threw the box in the fridge and well, just left it

> there. I

> probably need to try to make it. Either that or ask

> the company to

> send me some new stuff because I think the heat

> destroyed it.

>

> Tell me more about the stuff you are getting. (make

> sure they

> package it right and don't send in the middle of

> summer!) I have

> been making goat milk yogurt, as Dr. Jordan Rubin

> recommends that

> yogurt over all others. He says there is a problem

> with one of the

> cultures found in most commercial

> yogurts... " Streptococcus

> thermophilus " , which can aggravate the autoimmune

> disease process if

> you eat alot of it. (So he says....I'll try the goat

> milk yogurt!) I

> wonder if the kefir has that? I can't tell from my

> box.

>

> After my parents leave and I can get back on track

> with proper

> eating habits, I will be trying to eat alot of

> fermented foods.

> Actually, I need to try to teach them as well, but

> they are pretty

> set in their dietary ways.

> Thanks Anita,

> Love,

> Patty

>

>

> > Thanks Patty. I must have deleted it when I

> posted it. I did

> speak to Dr. and he was very nice so

> hopefully all will go

> smoothly. I am sending for some Kefir culture from

> a place called

> G.E.M. cultures. Dr. Kane recommended it. It is

> her opinion that

> the lactic acid bacteria are the best. Just thought

> I'd share that

> in case you want to try it. I will give you the

> info if you do.

> Love, Anita

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Rogene, That's so funny..no kitchen. If I had my way I wouldn't cook either. I hate it but it's funny it seems that's what I spend half my time doing! I thought you might be interested in the kombucha mushroom tea. They call it a fungus but I guess that's not what it really is. I noticed they also have natto..good for the hypercoagulation of the blood. Other than those I have never heard of most of them. Love, Anita Re: lymph drainage and> liver detox, Anita> > > > Hi Anita,> I hope all goes well with Dr. ...let me> know!> > I bought some kefir culture last year from> Wilderness Family > Naturals. It came in the sweltering heat of August,> and sat out in > the heat probably for a couple hours...UPS just> dropped the box at > my front door. When I picked up the box, it was HOT.> Of course, the > box of kefir culture says, "Keep refrigerated."> Hmph. I wasn't too > happy about that whole experience. If I remember> right the culture > wasn't that cheap. I think I paid over $25 for it!> > I threw the box in the fridge and well, just left it> there. I > probably need to try to make it. Either that or ask> the company to > send me some new stuff because I think the heat> destroyed it.> > Tell me more about the stuff you are getting. (make> sure they > package it right and don't send in the middle of> summer!) I have > been making goat milk yogurt, as Dr. Jordan Rubin> recommends that > yogurt over all others. He says there is a problem> with one of the > cultures found in most commercial> yogurts..."Streptococcus > thermophilus", which can aggravate the autoimmune> disease process if > you eat alot of it. (So he says....I'll try the goat> milk yogurt!) I > wonder if the kefir has that? I can't tell from my> box. > > After my parents leave and I can get back on track> with proper > eating habits, I will be trying to eat alot of> fermented foods. > Actually, I need to try to teach them as well, but> they are pretty > set in their dietary ways. > Thanks Anita,> Love,> Patty> > > > Thanks Patty. I must have deleted it when I> posted it. I did > speak to Dr. and he was very nice so> hopefully all will go > smoothly. I am sending for some Kefir culture from> a place called > G.E.M. cultures. Dr. Kane recommended it. It is> her opinion that > the lactic acid bacteria are the best. Just thought> I'd share that > in case you want to try it. I will give you the> info if you do. > Love, Anita > > > > > > > > >

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Anita,

I think the Kombucha tea was the very first thing I

tried. I think it helped! . . . It looks rather gross

growing in the bottle. But the tea tastes good! . . .

At it's best, it's slightly sweet, with just a bit of

tang. Leave it too long, and it becomes vinegary.

My hubby would love it if I spent the day in the

kitchen too! . . . I keep promising him that when

we're both skinny, I'll cook up a storm.

A friend, who has Celiac disease, makes her own

yogurt. Says it's wonderful. I sent her the

gencultures website address.

Anita, did you notice that , PJ's daughter

has joined SiliconeKids? She's looking for information

too. It doesn't sound like she's found much. Hopefully

some of the things you and Sue are trying with your

kids will start showing results!

Love,

Rogene

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Please do!

Here is that info from Kacey:

Re: draining the lymph system (Lymphatic

pump)

The information on the Lymph system is really interesting! My

doctor does a " lymphatic pump " on me every time I walk into the

office, and I never quite understood why (but I TRY EVERYTHING).

The lymphatic pump is really simple. You lie on your back and

someone pushes the tops of your feet forward in a pumping motion for

one minute (or about 60 pumps). Then you intertwine your fingers

over your chest (just above your breasts), take a deep breath, and

as you breath out slowly, the person is at your head with her hands

on top of your hands and is pushing. When you take a breath again,

the person stops pushing. You repeat the foot pumps for one more

minute, and then she presses on your chest again.

Very simple, but it supposedly really, really helps release toxins.

They have read and seen some great results before.

Take care,

Kacey

> > Thanks Patty. I must have deleted it when I posted it. I did

> speak to Dr. and he was very nice so hopefully all will

go

> smoothly. I am sending for some Kefir culture from a place

called

> G.E.M. cultures. Dr. Kane recommended it. It is her opinion

that

> the lactic acid bacteria are the best. Just thought I'd share

that

> in case you want to try it. I will give you the info if you do.

> Love, Anita

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Rogene, Wouldn't it be great if we could help PJ's girls? It's so unfair that the children have to suffer. Love, Anita Re: Re: lymph drainage and liver detox, Anita Anita,I think the Kombucha tea was the very first thing Itried. I think it helped! . . . It looks rather grossgrowing in the bottle. But the tea tastes good! . . .At it's best, it's slightly sweet, with just a bit oftang. Leave it too long, and it becomes vinegary. My hubby would love it if I spent the day in thekitchen too! . . . I keep promising him that whenwe're both skinny, I'll cook up a storm. A friend, who has Celiac disease, makes her ownyogurt. Says it's wonderful. I sent her thegencultures website address. Anita, did you notice that , PJ's daughterhas joined SiliconeKids? She's looking for informationtoo. It doesn't sound like she's found much. Hopefullysome of the things you and Sue are trying with yourkids will start showing results!Love,Rogene

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Anita,

I hope we can help PJ's. . . and a lot of other kids.

I can't believe that doctors aren't taking an interest

.. . . if they are, we're not hearing about them yet.

I'm convinced we're going to bring attention to the

kids, and things will change. It will take time

though!

Love,

Rogene

--- anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

> Rogene,

> Wouldn't it be great if we could help PJ's girls?

> It's so unfair that the children have to suffer.

> Love, Anita

>

> Re: Re: lymph drainage and

> liver detox, Anita

>

>

> Anita,

>

> I think the Kombucha tea was the very first thing I

> tried. I think it helped! . . . It looks rather

> gross

> growing in the bottle. But the tea tastes good! . .

> .

> At it's best, it's slightly sweet, with just a bit

> of

> tang. Leave it too long, and it becomes vinegary.

>

> My hubby would love it if I spent the day in the

> kitchen too! . . . I keep promising him that when

> we're both skinny, I'll cook up a storm.

>

> A friend, who has Celiac disease, makes her own

> yogurt. Says it's wonderful. I sent her the

> gencultures website address.

>

> Anita, did you notice that , PJ's daughter

> has joined SiliconeKids? She's looking for

> information

> too. It doesn't sound like she's found much.

> Hopefully

> some of the things you and Sue are trying with your

> kids will start showing results!

>

> Love,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

What kind of symptoms are these children having? I am

somewhat aware of the children from silicone gel

survivors and esophageal problems. What are the

problems with saline children??

GT

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Anita,

>

> I hope we can help PJ's. . . and a lot of other

> kids.

> I can't believe that doctors aren't taking an

> interest

> . . . if they are, we're not hearing about them yet.

>

>

> I'm convinced we're going to bring attention to the

> kids, and things will change. It will take time

> though!

>

> Love,

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

> > Rogene,

> > Wouldn't it be great if we could help PJ's girls?

> > It's so unfair that the children have to suffer.

> > Love, Anita

> >

> > Re: Re: lymph drainage

> and

> > liver detox, Anita

> >

> >

> > Anita,

> >

> > I think the Kombucha tea was the very first thing

> I

> > tried. I think it helped! . . . It looks rather

> > gross

> > growing in the bottle. But the tea tastes good! .

> .

> > .

> > At it's best, it's slightly sweet, with just a bit

> > of

> > tang. Leave it too long, and it becomes vinegary.

>

> >

> > My hubby would love it if I spent the day in the

> > kitchen too! . . . I keep promising him that when

> > we're both skinny, I'll cook up a storm.

> >

> > A friend, who has Celiac disease, makes her own

> > yogurt. Says it's wonderful. I sent her the

> > gencultures website address.

> >

> > Anita, did you notice that , PJ's

> daughter

> > has joined SiliconeKids? She's looking for

> > information

> > too. It doesn't sound like she's found much.

> > Hopefully

> > some of the things you and Sue are trying with

> your

> > kids will start showing results!

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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GT, I am not aware of differences in the problems children are having with saline versus silicone. I had silicone gel. I would think there wouldn't be a difference just as the symptoms in women are similar. Maybe someone else has more to offer on this one. Love, Anita Re: Re: lymph drainage> and> > liver detox, Anita> > > > > > Anita,> > > > I think the Kombucha tea was the very first thing> I> > tried. I think it helped! . . . It looks rather> > gross> > growing in the bottle. But the tea tastes good! .> .> > .> > At it's best, it's slightly sweet, with just a bit> > of> > tang. Leave it too long, and it becomes vinegary. > > > > > My hubby would love it if I spent the day in the> > kitchen too! . . . I keep promising him that when> > we're both skinny, I'll cook up a storm. > > > > A friend, who has Celiac disease, makes her own> > yogurt. Says it's wonderful. I sent her the> > gencultures website address. > > > > Anita, did you notice that , PJ's> daughter> > has joined SiliconeKids? She's looking for> > information> > too. It doesn't sound like she's found much.> > Hopefully> > some of the things you and Sue are trying with> your> > kids will start showing results!> > > > Love,> > > > Rogene> > > > > > > > > >

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Rogene, I hope you are right. However, I think doctors will probably be even more reluctant to admit that implants have harmed the children. None of them want to stick their necks out on this issue. I just hope we can find some real answers for the kids. Love, Anita Re: Re: lymph drainage and> liver detox, Anita> > > Anita,> > I think the Kombucha tea was the very first thing I> tried. I think it helped! . . . It looks rather> gross> growing in the bottle. But the tea tastes good! . .> .> At it's best, it's slightly sweet, with just a bit> of> tang. Leave it too long, and it becomes vinegary. > > My hubby would love it if I spent the day in the> kitchen too! . . . I keep promising him that when> we're both skinny, I'll cook up a storm. > > A friend, who has Celiac disease, makes her own> yogurt. Says it's wonderful. I sent her the> gencultures website address. > > Anita, did you notice that , PJ's daughter> has joined SiliconeKids? She's looking for> information> too. It doesn't sound like she's found much.> Hopefully> some of the things you and Sue are trying with your> kids will start showing results!> > Love,> > Rogene> > > > >

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GT,

We're in the process of gathering information about

the problems the children are having.

It appears that the platinum that is used to harden

the shell leaches into the mother's body and crosses

the placental barrier. Platinum is a very potent

neurotoxin. From what I'm seeing on , the

children are experiencing allergies, muscle/joint

pain, behavior/learning problems.

Really not much different than Silicone gel kids.

Plus, if the child nursed, bacteria/fungus from the

implants was passed along to the child. As we know,

these types of organisms can cause havoc with a mature

system, let along an immature one.

Hugs,

Rogene

--- la Todarello <tasslekitty@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> What kind of symptoms are these children having? I

> am

> somewhat aware of the children from silicone gel

> survivors and esophageal problems. What are the

> problems with saline children??

>

> GT

> --- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> > Anita,

> >

> > I hope we can help PJ's. . . and a lot of other

> > kids.

> > I can't believe that doctors aren't taking an

> > interest

> > . . . if they are, we're not hearing about them

> yet.

> >

> >

> > I'm convinced we're going to bring attention to

> the

> > kids, and things will change. It will take time

> > though!

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Rogene

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Anita,

Wouldn't you think that, after all these years and

reports of children having problems, that the children

who are already ill would be evaluated to find out

what their problems are? . . .

sey's doctors recognize her children's

health problems are related to implants . . . I know

there is information out there, but those who should

be taking responsibility are hiding their heads in the

sand!

Love,

Rogene

--- anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

> Rogene,

> I hope you are right. However, I think doctors will

> probably be even more reluctant to admit that

> implants have harmed the children. None of them

> want to stick their necks out on this issue. I just

> hope we can find some real answers for the kids.

> Love, Anita

>

> Re: Re: lymph drainage

> and

> > liver detox, Anita

> >

> >

> > Anita,

> >

> > I think the Kombucha tea was the very first thing

> I

> > tried. I think it helped! . . . It looks rather

> > gross

> > growing in the bottle. But the tea tastes good! .

> .

> > .

> > At it's best, it's slightly sweet, with just a bit

> > of

> > tang. Leave it too long, and it becomes vinegary.

>

> >

> > My hubby would love it if I spent the day in the

> > kitchen too! . . . I keep promising him that when

> > we're both skinny, I'll cook up a storm.

> >

> > A friend, who has Celiac disease, makes her own

> > yogurt. Says it's wonderful. I sent her the

> > gencultures website address.

> >

> > Anita, did you notice that , PJ's

> daughter

> > has joined SiliconeKids? She's looking for

> > information

> > too. It doesn't sound like she's found much.

> > Hopefully

> > some of the things you and Sue are trying with

> your

> > kids will start showing results!

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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