Re: Test Results/what do they mean?

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

I know that with a low Sed Rate like you have that can mean hypercoagulated blood. Anythiing under 5 can mean that however the doctors won't tell you that. If it is not high they think it is good because it means no inflammation but not true especially if you are having symptoms of fibromyalgia. You can take a low dose aspirin daily that will help thin the blood. I think a lot of us have this symptom because it can be caused by exposure to chemicals but it can be corrected. I did have a sed rate of 1 for 2 years and now it is up to 6 which is good. I take aspirin daily and lots of detoxing.

Hope that helps

Love

Judi

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

They never said anything to me either, I did some research on the internet to find that out. It could be that because your blood is thick it is not getting oxygen to your hair follicles and if thinned out it could help your hair from falling out. It's worth a try since it seems no one else seems to be helping you with it.

Love

Judi

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

Here are the test results and numbers. I don't understand any of them. And...she didn't test me for FREE T3 like I had asked her to.

CBC with Differential / Platelet

Cmp. Metabolic Panel ( 14 )

FSH and LH

LH 2.8

FSH 2.5

Thyroxine ( T4 ) Free, Direct, S, 1.20

Estradiol 148

THS 1.365

Sedimentation Rate-Westergren 1

C-Reactive Protein, Quant 0.6

Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 2.5 ( Is this Free T3? )

That's it. So what do you think? I guess according to the chart in front of me I fall right in the middle of the norm. Maybe some of you experts can shed some light on this.

Thanks,

Marie

Marie!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marie..> > > Happy to hear that your up and running again with your > > computer.. I > > > wondered where you were!> > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the doc.. > please > > post.> > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for > example.. > > > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and 5.5 ... > > something like > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of hypo and > even > > 2.. > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the range > from > > 5.5 to > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports do not > > reflect > > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar with this > she > > will > > > say you are normal.> > > > > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be in the > upper > > 1/3 of > > > the range... you could be just slipping over the minimum > and > > not > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica > pellets... > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair and nails.> > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my hair loss > issue > > I > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The hair did > stop > > falling > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out again now.. > > that's > > > another story.> > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of > advice > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your > physician > > or licensed health care professional before commencing any > medical > > treatment. > > > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the > politicians > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner > (1954, > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy...thank you. I don't have symptoms of fybromyalgia though. I don't have any symptoms except hair loss...Chronic hair loss!!! 200-400 hairs per day. Truthfully, I didn't even know that my blood was supposed to be higher. I assumed that the doctor would have told me if anything was abnormal. Then again, they just want people to slip by.

Marie

Re: Test Results/what do they mean?

Hi Marie,

I know that with a low Sed Rate like you have that can mean hypercoagulated blood. Anythiing under 5 can mean that however the doctors won't tell you that. If it is not high they think it is good because it means no inflammation but not true especially if you are having symptoms of fibromyalgia. You can take a low dose aspirin daily that will help thin the blood. I think a lot of us have this symptom because it can be caused by exposure to chemicals but it can be corrected. I did have a sed rate of 1 for 2 years and now it is up to 6 which is good. I take aspirin daily and lots of detoxing.

Hope that helps

Love

Judi Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Marie..

The one that starts with trii... is t3... what are the ranges on

TSH, and both Frees? Example: TSH Range might be betweeen .5 - 5.5

Dawn

In , " Marie "

<marie.johnson3@c...> wrote:

> Dawn,

>

> Here are the test results and numbers. I don't understand any of

them. And...she didn't test me for FREE T3 like I had asked her to.

>

> CBC with Differential / Platelet

> Cmp. Metabolic Panel ( 14 )

> FSH and LH

> LH 2.8

> FSH 2.5

> Thyroxine ( T4 ) Free, Direct, S, 1.20

> Estradiol 148

> THS 1.365

> Sedimentation Rate-Westergren 1

> C-Reactive Protein, Quant 0.6

> Triiodothyronine, Free, Serum 2.5 ( Is this Free T3? )

>

> That's it. So what do you think? I guess according to the chart

in front of me I fall right in the middle of the norm. Maybe some

of you experts can shed some light on this.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marie

> Marie!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Marie..

> > > > Happy to hear that your up and running again with

your

> > > computer.. I

> > > > wondered where you were!

> > > >

> > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the

doc..

> > please

> > > post.

> > > >

> > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for

> > example..

> > > >

> > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and

5.5 ...

> > > something like

> > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of

hypo

> and

> > even

> > > 2..

> > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5.

> > > >

> > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the

> range

> > from

> > > 5.5 to

> > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports

do

> not

> > > reflect

> > > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar

with

> this

> > she

> > > will

> > > > say you are normal.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be

in

> the

> > upper

> > > 1/3 of

> > > > the range... you could be just slipping over the

> minimum

> > and

> > > not

> > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.

> > > >

> > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica

> > pellets...

> > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair

and

> nails.

> > > >

> > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my

hair

> loss

> > issue

> > > I

> > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The

hair

> did

> > stop

> > > falling

> > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out

again

> now..

> > > that's

> > > > another story.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs.. Dawn

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

of

> > advice

> > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult

your

> > physician

> > > or licensed health care professional before commencing

any

> > medical

> > > treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians

> > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your

own

> > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work

for

> a

> > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize

Winner

> > (1954,

> > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dawn...Hi

THS 0.350 - 5.500

T3 2.3 - 4.2

Thanks,

Marie

Marie!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marie..> > > > Happy to hear that your up and running again with your > > > computer.. I > > > > wondered where you were!> > > > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the doc.. > > please > > > post.> > > > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for > > example.. > > > > > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and 5.5 ... > > > something like > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of hypo > and > > even > > > 2.. > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > > > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the > range > > from > > > 5.5 to > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports do > not > > > reflect > > > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar with > this > > she > > > will > > > > say you are normal.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be in > the > > upper > > > 1/3 of > > > > the range... you could be just slipping over the > minimum > > and > > > not > > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > > > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica > > pellets... > > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair and > nails.> > > > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my hair > loss > > issue > > > I > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The hair > did > > stop > > > falling > > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out again > now.. > > > that's > > > > another story.> > > > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of > > advice > > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your > > physician > > > or licensed health care professional before commencing any > > medical > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the > > politicians > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for > a > > > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner > > (1954, > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Judi,

Good idea. I will ask the doctor today. It's a long shot and sounds almost silly, but I will talk to him about it.

Thanks!

Marie

Re: Test Results/what do they mean?

Hi Marie,

They never said anything to me either, I did some research on the internet to find that out. It could be that because your blood is thick it is not getting oxygen to your hair follicles and if thinned out it could help your hair from falling out. It's worth a try since it seems no one else seems to be helping you with it.

Love

JudiOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Aaaa haaaa!.... Got it... Do you realize your T3 is barely over the

minimum? This number should be in the upper 1/3. Based upon this, it

appears you would benefit from low dose armour or cytomel.

The t3 being low is indicative of poor t4 conversion. Don't let

these bimbo doctors tell you that this is normal, at the very LEAST

it is more than highly suspect, especially given the huge amount of

hair loss.

Please understand, your tsh does not need to reflect hypothyroid,

but my dear, you have just found thy root of the problem. By the

time TSH catches up people are usually pretty ill.

Now you need to find someone to prescribe. One more thing.. what is

the range for the free t4... you did not list it.

Dawn

In , " Marie "

<marie.johnson3@c...> wrote:

> Dawn...Hi

>

> THS 0.350 - 5.500

> T3 2.3 - 4.2

>

> Thanks,

> Marie

> Marie!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Marie..

> > > > > Happy to hear that your up and running again

with

> your

> > > > computer.. I

> > > > > wondered where you were!

> > > > >

> > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the

> doc..

> > > please

> > > > post.

> > > > >

> > > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges..

for

> > > example..

> > > > >

> > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and

> 5.5 ...

> > > > something like

> > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of

> hypo

> > and

> > > even

> > > > 2..

> > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed

the

> > range

> > > from

> > > > 5.5 to

> > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory

reports

> do

> > not

> > > > reflect

> > > > > that new number and if your doc is not

familiar

> with

> > this

> > > she

> > > > will

> > > > > say you are normal.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should

be

> in

> > the

> > > upper

> > > > 1/3 of

> > > > > the range... you could be just slipping over

the

> > minimum

> > > and

> > > > not

> > > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used

silica

> > > pellets...

> > > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for

hair

> and

> > nails.

> > > > >

> > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my

> hair

> > loss

> > > issue

> > > > I

> > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The

> hair

> > did

> > > stop

> > > > falling

> > > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out

> again

> > now..

> > > > that's

> > > > > another story.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs.. Dawn

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

place

> of

> > > advice

> > > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult

> your

> > > physician

> > > > or licensed health care professional before

commencing

> any

> > > medical

> > > > treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or

the

> > > politicians

> > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make

your

> own

> > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to

work

> for

> > a

> > > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize

> Winner

> > > (1954,

> > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Marie,

Please call Dr. Lowe. He will give you a referral to someone in

California.. he has many many connections there. Based upon your

numbers I know that he will agree that it is likely that you would

benefit from low dose thyroid medication, atleast temporarily, until

you detox the poison out of you.

HUGS,

Dawn

In , " Dawn A " <daldre@y...> wrote:

>

> Aaaa haaaa!.... Got it... Do you realize your T3 is barely over

the

> minimum? This number should be in the upper 1/3. Based upon this,

it

> appears you would benefit from low dose armour or cytomel.

>

> The t3 being low is indicative of poor t4 conversion. Don't let

> these bimbo doctors tell you that this is normal, at the very

LEAST

> it is more than highly suspect, especially given the huge amount

of

> hair loss.

>

> Please understand, your tsh does not need to reflect hypothyroid,

> but my dear, you have just found thy root of the problem. By the

> time TSH catches up people are usually pretty ill.

>

> Now you need to find someone to prescribe. One more thing.. what

is

> the range for the free t4... you did not list it.

> Dawn

>

>

> In , " Marie "

> <marie.johnson3@c...> wrote:

> > Dawn...Hi

> >

> > THS 0.350 - 5.500

> > T3 2.3 - 4.2

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Marie

> > Marie!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Marie..

> > > > > > Happy to hear that your up and running again

> with

> > your

> > > > > computer.. I

> > > > > > wondered where you were!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from

the

> > doc..

> > > > please

> > > > > post.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual

ranges..

> for

> > > > example..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and

> > 5.5 ...

> > > > > something like

> > > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect

of

> > hypo

> > > and

> > > > even

> > > > > 2..

> > > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have

changed

> the

> > > range

> > > > from

> > > > > 5.5 to

> > > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory

> reports

> > do

> > > not

> > > > > reflect

> > > > > > that new number and if your doc is not

> familiar

> > with

> > > this

> > > > she

> > > > > will

> > > > > > say you are normal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers

should

> be

> > in

> > > the

> > > > upper

> > > > > 1/3 of

> > > > > > the range... you could be just slipping over

> the

> > > minimum

> > > > and

> > > > > not

> > > > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used

> silica

> > > > pellets...

> > > > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for

> hair

> > and

> > > nails.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had

my

> > hair

> > > loss

> > > > issue

> > > > > I

> > > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it...

The

> > hair

> > > did

> > > > stop

> > > > > falling

> > > > > > out within a week.. although it is falling

out

> > again

> > > now..

> > > > > that's

> > > > > > another story.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> place

> > of

> > > > advice

> > > > > given by licensed health care professionals.

Consult

> > your

> > > > physician

> > > > > or licensed health care professional before

> commencing

> > any

> > > > medical

> > > > > treatment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities

or

> the

> > > > politicians

> > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make

> your

> > own

> > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how

to

> work

> > for

> > > a

> > > > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel

Prize

> > Winner

> > > > (1954,

> > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

T4 is 0.61 - 1.76 and I am at 1.20

Marie!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marie..> > > > > Happy to hear that your up and running again with > your > > > > computer.. I > > > > > wondered where you were!> > > > > > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the > doc.. > > > please > > > > post.> > > > > > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for > > > example.. > > > > > > > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and > 5.5 ... > > > > something like > > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of > hypo > > and > > > even > > > > 2.. > > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > > > > > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the > > range > > > from > > > > 5.5 to > > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports > do > > not > > > > reflect > > > > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar > with > > this > > > she > > > > will > > > > > say you are normal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be > in > > the > > > upper > > > > 1/3 of > > > > > the range... you could be just slipping over the > > minimum > > > and > > > > not > > > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > > > > > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica > > > pellets... > > > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair > and > > nails.> > > > > > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my > hair > > loss > > > issue > > > > I > > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The > hair > > did > > > stop > > > > falling > > > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out > again > > now.. > > > > that's > > > > > another story.> > > > > > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place > of > > > advice > > > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult > your > > > physician > > > > or licensed health care professional before commencing > any > > > medical > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the > > > politicians > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your > own > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work > for > > a > > > > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize > Winner > > > (1954, > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Marie..

The t4 is fine, like I said, you are not converting the t4 to t3 effectively.

Dawn

Marie <marie.johnson3@...> wrote:

Dawn,

T4 is 0.61 - 1.76 and I am at 1.20

Marie!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marie..> > > >

> Happy to hear that your up and running again with > your > > > > computer.. I > > > > > wondered where you were!> > > > > > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the > doc.. > > > please > > > > post.> > > > > > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for > > >

example.. > > > > > > > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and > 5.5 ... > > > > something like > > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of > hypo > > and > > > even > > > > 2.. > > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > > > > > > >

> > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the > > range > > > from > > > > 5.5 to > > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports > do > > not > > > > reflect > > > > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar > with > > this > > > she > > > > will > > >

> > say you are normal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be > in > > the > > > upper > > > > 1/3 of > > > > > the range... you could be just slipping over the > > minimum > > > and > > > > not > > > >

> know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > > > > > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica > > > pellets... > > > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair > and > > nails.> > > > > > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my > hair > > loss > > > issue > >

> > I > > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The > hair > > did > > > stop > > > > falling > > > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out > again > > now.. > > > > that's > > > > > another story.> > > > > > > > > > Hugs..

Dawn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place > of > > > advice > > > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult > your > > > physician > > > > or licensed health care professional before commencing

> any > > > medical > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the > > > politicians > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your > own > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work > for > > a > > > > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize > Winner

> > > (1954, > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn!

I just got home from my NEW doctor appt. He took one look at my thyroid #'s and told me I fall on the low end. He wants me to try Armour for one Month and see if that doesn't help with the hair loss. He also told me to continue on the silica pellets as they cannot hurt. Also to continue on the Biotin. Also prescribed a new B-complex and Selenium.

Lots of stuff, I just hope that the Armour will help with the hair loss.

One thing I forgot to ask him was if the Armour has side effects of weight gain. Do you know?

Do you also know "if" the hair loss if from the T3, how long do you think it will take with the Armour to start kicking in? I am on a very low dose. One per day for 4 days and then 2 per day after that.

You are so informed in the thyroid department. Thank you for all of you help!!!! I hope it works!!

Marie

Marie!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marie..> > > > > Happy to hear that your up and running again with > your > > > > computer.. I > > > > > wondered where you were!> > > > > > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the > doc.. > > > please > > > > post.> > > > > > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. for > > > example.. > > > > > > > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and > 5.5 ... > > > > something like > > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of > hypo > > and > > > even > > > > 2.. > > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > > > > > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed the > > range > > > from > > > > 5.5 to > > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory reports > do > > not > > > > reflect > > > > > that new number and if your doc is not familiar > with > > this > > > she > > > > will > > > > > say you are normal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should be > in > > the > > > upper > > > > 1/3 of > > > > > the range... you could be just slipping over the > > minimum > > > and > > > > not > > > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > > > > > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used silica > > > pellets... > > > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for hair > and > > nails.> > > > > > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my > hair > > loss > > > issue > > > > I > > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The > hair > > did > > > stop > > > > falling > > > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out > again > > now.. > > > > that's > > > > > another story.> > > > > > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place > of > > > advice > > > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult > your > > > physician > > > > or licensed health care professional before commencing > any > > > medical > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the > > > politicians > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your > own > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work > for > > a > > > > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize > Winner > > > (1954, > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I think what they're talking about when they say your

blood is thick is called Antiphospholipid, or sticky

blood. It appears to be at epidemic levels. . .

toxins?

Taking a .81mg asprin a day is a good treatment for

it. . . You can spend mega bucks on tests and

prescriptions, but it's not necessary. You can do a

websearch for either term and get a lot more

information.

One implant acquaintance told me her doctor drew her

blood, turned to do something, then turned back to the

blood. It was already clotted. He was amazed!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Is anyone familiar with 's (I hope that's

her name!) newletter " Sticking our necks out " (I think

that's what it's called). . . She's not a doctor, but

after experiencing difficulties getting treated, she

educated herself and started sharing what she knows.

Now, she's considered an expert in thyroid concerns.

What she says is in line with what is being said here.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Marie,

Congradulations on finding a good doc! Hopefully

you'll get some results now!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thank you...I hope so too. I think it's weird that I don't have any other symptoms except the hair thing so this will be interesting.

Marie

Re: Test Results/what do they mean?

Marie,Congradulations on finding a good doc! Hopefullyyou'll get some results now!Hugs,RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hi...I can't say I have ever heard of her. Her story sounds very interesting though and I would love to read more on her. Do you know if she has a web site?

All of the info given so far has been from Dawn. She seems to be so well informed on the thyroid issues. I know that she has helped me tremendously!

I will keep you informed of my progress on the Armour. I will start taking it tomorrow morning.

Marie

Re: Test Results/what do they mean?

Is anyone familiar with 's (I hope that'sher name!) newletter "Sticking our necks out" (I thinkthat's what it's called). . . She's not a doctor, butafter experiencing difficulties getting treated, sheeducated herself and started sharing what she knows.Now, she's considered an expert in thyroid concerns.What she says is in line with what is being said here.RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

I have to share this link with those who use or are considering aspirin therapy. I hope I don't offend anyone. I would also like to add that according to Kane and others hypercoagulation of the blood is present in many chronic diseases. The therapy for this is to clear the liver and the bilary tree and then heal the cell membrane using phospholipids. Love, Anita Here is the link.http://www.hsibaltimore.com/cgi-bin/perlfect/search/search.pl?p=1 & lang=en & q=aspirin+therapy & x=14 & y=12 Re: Test Results/what do they mean? I think what they're talking about when they say yourblood is thick is called Antiphospholipid, or stickyblood. It appears to be at epidemic levels. . .toxins?Taking a .81mg asprin a day is a good treatment forit. . . You can spend mega bucks on tests andprescriptions, but it's not necessary. You can do awebsearch for either term and get a lot moreinformation.One implant acquaintance told me her doctor drew herblood, turned to do something, then turned back to theblood. It was already clotted. He was amazed!Hugs,Rogene

[Guest guest]

Marie,

I spelled her name a bit wrong . . . But, here's a

place to start. http://www.thyroid-info.com/

The last I heard, she was charging a small fee for her

newsletter. The website I gave you shows she has a

book now.

I belonged to her mail list for some time while I was

still trying to figure out what was going on with me.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Her name is Shomon, and she not only has a website, but she has

written some excellent best-sellers on thyroid disorders and

autoimmune diseases, and has her widely read newsletter, which you

can sign up for at this link, which is all about her:

http://thyroid.about.com/mbiopage.htm

Oh, by the way Marie, you asked if Armour could cause weight

gain....and the answer is that it should not at all! That would

actually be contrary to it's intended purpose, since it's primary

goal is to speed up your metabolism, through providing needed

thyroid hormones. A sluggish thyroid causes weight gain. If Armour

does anything at all, it should have the side effect of causing

weight loss through revved up thyroid activity.

Patty

> Hi...I can't say I have ever heard of her. Her story sounds very

interesting though and I would love to read more on her. Do you

know if she has a web site?

>

> All of the info given so far has been from Dawn. She seems to be

so well informed on the thyroid issues. I know that she has helped

me tremendously!

>

> I will keep you informed of my progress on the Armour. I will

start taking it tomorrow morning.

>

> Marie

[Guest guest]

Marie!!!

So happy for you!!!! Your hair loss will stop within 1 to 2 weeks..

if it does not .... i'll bite my tongue!!! HOpe not though, cause

that will hurt!!

I am so happy you also got the armour!!! How much armour? You will

not gain weight with armour... but you need to be diligent in making

sure that your doseage is high enough.

You should take a baseline blood pressure reading and heart rate.

Monitor every couple of days at first.

We'll talk more about this... please tell me the doseage.. This is

great news!!!

See... now you have validation, it was those freaking implants all

along... We all have thyroid disorders.. Is that a coincidence or

what?

Hugs,

Dawn

In , " Marie "

<marie.johnson3@c...> wrote:

> Hi Dawn!

>

> I just got home from my NEW doctor appt. He took one look at my

thyroid #'s and told me I fall on the low end. He wants me to try

Armour for one Month and see if that doesn't help with the hair

loss. He also told me to continue on the silica pellets as they

cannot hurt. Also to continue on the Biotin. Also prescribed a new

B-complex and Selenium.

>

> Lots of stuff, I just hope that the Armour will help with the hair

loss.

>

> One thing I forgot to ask him was if the Armour has side effects

of weight gain. Do you know?

>

> Do you also know " if " the hair loss if from the T3, how long do

you think it will take with the Armour to start kicking in? I am on

a very low dose. One per day for 4 days and then 2 per day after

that.

>

> You are so informed in the thyroid department. Thank you for all

of you help!!!! I hope it works!!

>

> Marie

> Marie!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Marie..

> > > > > > Happy to hear that your up and running

again

> with

> > your

> > > > > computer.. I

> > > > > > wondered where you were!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back

from the

> > doc..

> > > > please

> > > > > post.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual

ranges..

> for

> > > > example..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tsh is usually something like

between .5 and

> > 5.5 ...

> > > > > something like

> > > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is

suspect of

> > hypo

> > > and

> > > > even

> > > > > 2..

> > > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have

changed

> the

> > > range

> > > > from

> > > > > 5.5 to

> > > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the

laboratory

> reports

> > do

> > > not

> > > > > reflect

> > > > > > that new number and if your doc is not

> familiar

> > with

> > > this

> > > > she

> > > > > will

> > > > > > say you are normal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers

should

> be

> > in

> > > the

> > > > upper

> > > > > 1/3 of

> > > > > > the range... you could be just

slipping over

> the

> > > minimum

> > > > and

> > > > > not

> > > > > > know it.. she's telling you your

normal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they

used

> silica

> > > > pellets...

> > > > > > actually silica does work.. it is

great for

> hair

> > and

> > > nails.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I

first had my

> > hair

> > > loss

> > > > issue

> > > > > I

> > > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended

it... The

> > hair

> > > did

> > > > stop

> > > > > falling

> > > > > > out within a week.. although it is

falling out

> > again

> > > now..

> > > > > that's

> > > > > > another story.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to

take the

> place

> > of

> > > > advice

> > > > > given by licensed health care professionals.

Consult

> > your

> > > > physician

> > > > > or licensed health care professional before

> commencing

> > any

> > > > medical

> > > > > treatment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Do not let either the medical

authorities or

> the

> > > > politicians

> > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are,

and make

> your

> > own

> > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and

how to

> work

> > for

> > > a

> > > > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

Nobel Prize

> > Winner

> > > > (1954,

> > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

Shomon.. she is at thyroid.about.com

Yep, she's in tune to all of this stuff. She has some good info on her

site.

Hugs,Dawn

In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> Is anyone familiar with 's (I hope that's

> her name!) newletter " Sticking our necks out " (I think

> that's what it's called). . . She's not a doctor, but

> after experiencing difficulties getting treated, she

> educated herself and started sharing what she knows.

> Now, she's considered an expert in thyroid concerns.

>

> What she says is in line with what is being said here.

>

> Rogene

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

The dosage on the Armour is 30mg ( .5GR ) per tablet. I am taking 1 tablet for 4 days and then 2 tablets every day after that. I guess to introduce it into my system slowly. Is this enough do you think?

My blood pressure is very good...so good that I forgot to ask what it was. The nurse just said that my blood pressure was excellent! I'm not sure what you mean by taking my temp. and blood pressure and what that will tell me. Besides, how the heck do you take your blood pressure at home anyway? Let me know if this is a must though..ok.

I just hope I'm not filling all of my eggs in one basket. Isn't that the saying? I hope this works because I do feel like it is the cause and will be fixed with the med.

The count down begins for you right? What's the exact date again?

Marie

Marie!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marie..> > > > > > Happy to hear that your up and running again > with > > your > > > > > computer.. I > > > > > > wondered where you were!> > > > > > > > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers back from the > > doc.. > > > > please > > > > > post.> > > > > > > > > > > > Remember to post them with the actual ranges.. > for > > > > example.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tsh is usually something like between .5 and > > 5.5 ... > > > > > something like > > > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3 is suspect of > > hypo > > > and > > > > even > > > > > 2.. > > > > > > although the lab range is up to 5.5. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists have changed > the > > > range > > > > from > > > > > 5.5 to > > > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the laboratory > reports > > do > > > not > > > > > reflect > > > > > > that new number and if your doc is not > familiar > > with > > > this > > > > she > > > > > will > > > > > > say you are normal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your numbers should > be > > in > > > the > > > > upper > > > > > 1/3 of > > > > > > the range... you could be just slipping over > the > > > minimum > > > > and > > > > > not > > > > > > know it.. she's telling you your normal.> > > > > > > > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said they used > silica > > > > pellets... > > > > > > actually silica does work.. it is great for > hair > > and > > > nails.> > > > > > > > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I first had my > > hair > > > loss > > > > issue > > > > > I > > > > > > went to an herbalist who recommended it... The > > hair > > > did > > > > stop > > > > > falling > > > > > > out within a week.. although it is falling out > > again > > > now.. > > > > > that's > > > > > > another story.> > > > > > > > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the > place > > of > > > > advice > > > > > given by licensed health care professionals. Consult > > your > > > > physician > > > > > or licensed health care professional before > commencing > > any > > > > medical > > > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or > the > > > > politicians > > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make > your > > own > > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to > work > > for > > > a > > > > > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize > > Winner > > > > (1954, > > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ladies...I will check out her web site.

This is all so new to me. I have never had anything wrong with my body before and never thought I would have a problem with my thyroid...these darn implants! ( You know what I really wanted to say! )

Marie

Re: Test Results/what do they mean?

Hi Rogene, Shomon.. she is at thyroid.about.comYep, she's in tune to all of this stuff. She has some good info on her site.Hugs,DawnIn , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:> Is anyone familiar with 's (I hope that's> her name!) newletter "Sticking our necks out" (I think> that's what it's called). . . She's not a doctor, but> after experiencing difficulties getting treated, she> educated herself and started sharing what she knows.> Now, she's considered an expert in thyroid concerns.> > What she says is in line with what is being said here.> > RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Marie,

That's EXCELLENT! Finally a doctor who isn't afraid to start

patients on real doses! The plan sounds great.

I have a blood pressure machine at home.. it's small, costed like,

actually I forget, but not too much. I need this to monitor my

situation due to the fact that I am on HUGE amounts of thyroid meds.

No, I didn't mention taking your temperature.. I said baseline heart

rate.. That you should know for yourself.. but your doctor obviously

knows this and if you have any issues you could just call them.

And you made ME laugh too... what a trip.. so you were the guinea

pig in your circle, huh? Well, so was I except for the fact that all

my friends immediately followed and got the implants... I was the

only one who got sick and now they think I'm just nuts!!

No, you're not " putting all your eggs in one basket " .. just don't

give up on detoxing.. there is a reason your body is screaming for

thyroid support... but, you have in fact found the reason for the

hair loss, the t3 test told you so. It's too bad that internist

didn't do the thyroid antibodies test like we were saying though...

that would have been good to know to see if it's an auto immune

thing. Just as well.

Yes, the count down is on, April 13, 7 more days, I am totally

freaked out. I know I'm supposed to remain positive and all.. but I

find myself tearing up alot. It is sad.. but that's only because I'm

not looking at the bright side at the moment.. I need a GRATITUDE

adjustment.

Hugs..

Dawn

In , " Marie "

<marie.johnson3@c...> wrote:

> Dawn,

>

> The dosage on the Armour is 30mg ( .5GR ) per tablet. I am taking

1 tablet for 4 days and then 2 tablets every day after that. I

guess to introduce it into my system slowly. Is this enough do you

think?

>

> My blood pressure is very good...so good that I forgot to ask what

it was. The nurse just said that my blood pressure was excellent!

I'm not sure what you mean by taking my temp. and blood pressure and

what that will tell me. Besides, how the heck do you take your

blood pressure at home anyway? Let me know if this is a must

though..ok.

>

> I just hope I'm not filling all of my eggs in one basket. Isn't

that the saying? I hope this works because I do feel like it is the

cause and will be fixed with the med.

>

> The count down begins for you right? What's the exact date again?

>

> Marie

> Marie!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Marie..

> > > > > > > Happy to hear that your up and

running

> again

> > with

> > > your

> > > > > > computer.. I

> > > > > > > wondered where you were!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So, if you get those lab numbers

back

> from the

> > > doc..

> > > > > please

> > > > > > post.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Remember to post them with the

actual

> ranges..

> > for

> > > > > example..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tsh is usually something like

> between .5 and

> > > 5.5 ...

> > > > > > something like

> > > > > > > that. With TSH anything above 3

is

> suspect of

> > > hypo

> > > > and

> > > > > even

> > > > > > 2..

> > > > > > > although the lab range is up to

5.5.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Am Assoc of Endocrinoligists

have

> changed

> > the

> > > > range

> > > > > from

> > > > > > 5.5 to

> > > > > > > 3.0... but for some reason the

> laboratory

> > reports

> > > do

> > > > not

> > > > > > reflect

> > > > > > > that new number and if your doc is

not

> > familiar

> > > with

> > > > this

> > > > > she

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > say you are normal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also with the Free T's... your

numbers

> should

> > be

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > upper

> > > > > > 1/3 of

> > > > > > > the range... you could be just

> slipping over

> > the

> > > > minimum

> > > > > and

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > know it.. she's telling you your

> normal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ... I saw that someone here said

they

> used

> > silica

> > > > > pellets...

> > > > > > > actually silica does work.. it is

> great for

> > hair

> > > and

> > > > nails.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Silica is aka: horsetail.. When I

> first had my

> > > hair

> > > > loss

> > > > > issue

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > went to an herbalist who

recommended

> it... The

> > > hair

> > > > did

> > > > > stop

> > > > > > falling

> > > > > > > out within a week.. although it is

> falling out

> > > again

> > > > now..

> > > > > > that's

> > > > > > > another story.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hugs.. Dawn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant

to

> take the

> > place

> > > of

> > > > > advice

> > > > > > given by licensed health care

professionals.

> Consult

> > > your

> > > > > physician

> > > > > > or licensed health care professional

before

> > commencing

> > > any

> > > > > medical

> > > > > > treatment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical

> authorities or

> > the

> > > > > politicians

> > > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts

are,

> and make

> > your

> > > own

> > > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life

and

> how to

> > work

> > > for

> > > > a

> > > > > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize

> > > Winner

> > > > > (1954,

> > > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For Healing Therapies and Detox

info,

> and to

> > view

> > > > > Testimonies

> > > > > > of Victims, and Studies of harm by

implants,

> go to:

> > > > > > >

> > /files/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To view links to related websites

on

> breast

> > > implants,

> > > > go

> > > > > to:

> > > > > > >

> > /links

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant

to

> take the

> > place

> > > of

> > > > > advice

> > > > > > given by licensed health care

professionals.

> Consult

> > > your

> > > > > physician

> > > > > > or licensed health care professional

before

> > commencing

> > > any

> > > > > medical

> > > > > > treatment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Do not let either the medical

> authorities or

> > the

> > > > > politicians

> > > > > > mislead you. Find out what the facts

are,

> and make

> > your

> > > own

> > > > > > decisions about how to live a happy life

and

> how to

> > work

> > > for

> > > > a

> > > > > > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize

> > > Winner

> > > > > (1954,

> > > > > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For Healing Therapies and Detox

info,

> and to

> > view

> > > > > Testimonies

> > > > > > of Victims, and Studies of harm by

implants,

> go to:

> > > > > > >

> > /files/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To view links to related websites

on

> breast

> > > implants,

> > > > go

> > > > > to:

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