Re: From Beth L: help, Could I have arthritis?

April 1, 2005

My Dearest Beth:

I'm not sure what is happening to you. I know that my left foot vibrates and

when I'm tired, both legs vibrate. Have you seen a neurologist? I had a numb

face a few years ago and problems with balance.

Take care, I will write more in the morning...Love...Lea

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From Beth L: help, Could I have arthritis?

>

> Well, I had thought my tingling was getting better; the sauna has

> definitely helped. Last night it flared up pretty bad; I felt like

> I had inflammation in my lower face and neck. In fact, when I

> turned my head, I could sometimes hear a popping sound, like fluid

> or something. I have finished all my antifungals and am at wits end.

>

> Today, it was sort of bad again when I woke up, and I went to use

> the sauna at the gym. I met a lady in there who has tingling in her

> neck and shoulders, her symptoms were almost identical to mine. She

> has arthritis, and she said sometimes it's so bad, that she has

> trouble swallowing or talking. And, like always, when I left the

> sauna, the symptoms had abated. Ah, the wonderful sauna, my

> lifesaver at this point.

>

> At one time, I had the tingling from my face, all the way down my

> left arm, crotch, and left leg. Now it's mostly in my face. I'm

> wondering if nerves or connective tissues are irritated?

>

> I would appreciate some thoughts on this and what possible steps I

> could take next. I sort of don't feel this one symptom is fungal

> related, because my energy level is so great now. I never have

> fevers anymore, no brain fog, no more hives, heart beat has returned

> to normal. I have a few twitches here and there, but not the severe

> spasms in my arms and legs I used to have.

>

> Would a chiropractor be helpful? There is a good one here who has

> worked in neurology.

>

> hugs,

> Beth

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

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> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

April 1, 2005

Beth,

The fungal problem is one you will probably have to

deal with for an extended period. . . I'd estimate at

least six months on Primal Defense. . . and then take

it several times a month unless you're eating

naturally fermented foods, organic, etc. etc.

I got very stressed last night and woke to lots of

shoulder/neck pain this morning. . . I spent a full

hour in the sauna this morning . . . It took care of

the pain. But what I found amazing was that my sweat

smelled sour, like a towel that has been setting wet,

and most amazing, it smelled of ammonia. Anybody have

an idea what that was?

I checked the towel after it had been hanging to dry

for a while . . both the sour and ammonia smells were

gone.

Hugs,

Rogene

April 1, 2005

Rogene, I'm not positive but I think I read not too long ago that ammonia is made by the liver when it is toxic. Of course I can't remember where I read it. DUH! Love, Anita Re: From Beth L: help, Could I have arthritis? Beth,The fungal problem is one you will probably have todeal with for an extended period. . . I'd estimate atleast six months on Primal Defense. . . and then takeit several times a month unless you're eatingnaturally fermented foods, organic, etc. etc.I got very stressed last night and woke to lots ofshoulder/neck pain this morning. . . I spent a fullhour in the sauna this morning . . . It took care ofthe pain. But what I found amazing was that my sweatsmelled sour, like a towel that has been setting wet,and most amazing, it smelled of ammonia. Anybody havean idea what that was?I checked the towel after it had been hanging to dryfor a while . . both the sour and ammonia smells weregone. Hugs,Rogene

April 1, 2005

Dear Beth,

I see an osteopath every week for similar problems, my neck is terrible and unless I have the muscles released I get all what you are saying and the most terrible giddyness.

My osteopath has explained to me that when the large muscle constricts in the neck it slows the flow of blood causing the tingling/numbness in the face and neck.I would see an osteopath rather than a chiroprator as they are more gentle and dont pull the neck around as much.I would try it as it could work as well for you as it does for me.

Take care Sue.

April 1, 2005

Thanks Anita,

I thought it was remarkable the only time this has

occured was after I got very stressed . . . I always

feel terrible after getting stressed - maybe that has

something to do with it. This time, after using the

sauna, I didn't feel as bad. Body chemistry is

amazing!

I noticed the towel I was using for a mop was stiff

after it dryed!

Hugs,

Rogene

April 1, 2005

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Gee Beth, that is a tough one. I have some weird symptoms too and

it is just so hard to figure out what is really causing them. You

may never know. It is encouraging that all of your other symptoms

are so much better. Plus this has been improving until your flare.

Perhaps it is a herx from the sauna. I know people don't always

know why they herx. I mean like things are going along fine, and

all of a sudden, it happens. Then it is gone. It does still sound

most likely nerve related. It couldn't hurt to try the

chiropractor. He might have some new ideas. Wish I could give you

more advice. It is just that there are alot of things we just don't

know! As far as the arthritis is concerned, I doubt you have that.

There are many symptoms that people with different autoimmune

diseases in have common. This is one of them. If you go to the

chiropractor keep us informed of what you find out,ok? Thanks

Hugs

kathy

-- In , " bethlakey " <bethlakey@y...>

wrote:

>

> Well, I had thought my tingling was getting better; the sauna has

> definitely helped. Last night it flared up pretty bad; I felt

like

> I had inflammation in my lower face and neck. In fact, when I

> turned my head, I could sometimes hear a popping sound, like fluid

> or something. I have finished all my antifungals and am at wits

end.

>

> Today, it was sort of bad again when I woke up, and I went to use

> the sauna at the gym. I met a lady in there who has tingling in

her

> neck and shoulders, her symptoms were almost identical to mine.

She

> has arthritis, and she said sometimes it's so bad, that she has

> trouble swallowing or talking. And, like always, when I left the

> sauna, the symptoms had abated. Ah, the wonderful sauna, my

> lifesaver at this point.

>

> At one time, I had the tingling from my face, all the way down my

> left arm, crotch, and left leg. Now it's mostly in my face. I'm

> wondering if nerves or connective tissues are irritated?

>

> I would appreciate some thoughts on this and what possible steps I

> could take next. I sort of don't feel this one symptom is fungal

> related, because my energy level is so great now. I never have

> fevers anymore, no brain fog, no more hives, heart beat has

returned

> to normal. I have a few twitches here and there, but not the

severe

> spasms in my arms and legs I used to have.

>

> Would a chiropractor be helpful? There is a good one here who has

> worked in neurology.

>

> hugs,

> Beth

April 1, 2005

Beth,

My OT daughter tells me that arthritis is one thing

that responds very well to infrared light. . .

My suggestion is to turn your health over to God . . .

Trust that he will lead you to what you need when you

need it. Turning things over to him will relieve you

of a tremendous amount of stress that, not MAY, but

WILL interfere with your healing.

Love,

Rogene

April 1, 2005

Dearest Rogene:

I'm sorry that you have been stressed out, perhaps you should back away for

a few days. When you deal with sick women every day it will take its toll on

your health. We need you, so please take care. I wish that we could afford

the sauna, but we just can't because this home has drained us of all money.

This week-end, will be home and maybe we will try our old fashioned

sauna. I can leave if the heat bothers me, it might be good for too.

I have an article called Destructive Arthritis Caused by Silicone, it is on