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Hi Marie,

Please hold on a sec before you insist on

thyroid hormone. There are a few markers you need to identify before going that

route, I will explain. Also, you need to know that if you take thyroid hormone

and you don’t actually need it you are most certainly doing yourself much

more harm than good. Plus if you do have the markers I describe you need to

know the side effects of some of these drugs that the doctors do not tell you.

Are you absolutely sure that hair loss is

your only symptom? How are your nails by the way?

Symptoms of hypothyroidism are very

similar to symptoms related to breast implants.. here are some:

Freezing cold.. to the bone, your body cannot warm up

Hair loss

Weak brittle nails

Inappropriate weight gain or sometimes

weight loss due to lack of appetite

Myexedema ( non pitting

water retention)

DISABLING fatigue… down right

disabling

Sexual problems ( ya know what I mean)

Facial bloating

Loss of the outer 1/3 of eyebrows

Slow reflexes

Slowed speech

Memory problems (brain fog)

These are just some of them and again they

commingle with effects of breast implants. Do you have any other of these

things? How about atleast the brittle nails and

fatigue? Anything is possible though. Some people do only have minor symptoms

when hypothyroid. No, not that hair loss is minor.. it’s devastating actually.

Here’s the thing..

I demanded to have the proper lab tests done on me because you cannot be

diagnosed based upon TSH alone. There are also new guidelines for TSH that are not on the lab reference, oh what a pain in the butt

this is. The American Association of Endocrinologists have declared that a

person be deemed hypothyroid if TSH is above 3.0. But in truth, if you have the

symptoms, that really doesn’t mean diddly.

An excellent no bs site to visit is healthboards.com and scroll down

to thyroid disorders.

The lab tests you need to have done are :

TSH

Free T4

Free T3

Anti peroxidase

AB ( this is an antibody test, all other tests can be

squeaky clean, but if this one shows up, you could be hypo)

There is another antibody test too, I can’t

think of it at the moment.. I can get it if you want

it.. but atleast

this will get you started. Actually, Patty said she has hashimoto’s

so she would probably know the other antibody test.

Another thing..

Please I hope nobody takes this the wrong way.. but studies show that the “ t4 only” medications,

such as synthroid/levoxyl do not relieve all symptoms

and in fact can cause additional weight gain and hair loss. I have so much more

info on that topic but I don’t want to stray from the point I am trying to

make. My point is .. should

you require thyroid meds.. It is my opinion and experience (and others as well,

go to healthboards.com/thyroid disorders) that t3/t4 combo meds are far

superior to synthroid. There are some people who DO do just fine on synthroid, but a large percentage do not. I am telling you this because the

synthroid reps are out and about kicking back the

docs to prescribe that drug… another story for another day. Just

something to have in your back pocket incase someone

puts you on t4 and it does not work.

I take armour

thyroid combined with cytomel. The dose I take is

astronomical. No doctor I have ever been to has ever seen such a thing. For

more info on that you can go to drlowe.com. I love that guy..

he has helped me a lot over the years.

So, if you feel absolutely fine except for

the hair loss, please just be careful about jumping into thyroid meds. It’s

not even a month yet that the implants are out. For me, I knew that doing

another surgery would probably cause additional hair loss because of the stress

caused by it. So I am preparing for that part. I lost a ton of hair when I had

the implants put in.. but

that was definitely related to the surgery. I could tell because it was exactly

the same type loss as I had after I gave birth to daughter #2. If you have your lab reports I would

love to help you figure them out and tell you what is a concern and what is

not.. I have been down and around this road so long I could probably right my

own book on thyroid disorders!!!

Hang in there.. I

am feeling for you, I have the hair loss too, really bad. I ‘m

with ya.

Hugs,

Dawn

Re: Re:

can't believe it either

Hi Dawn...I had my explant

3/03. Before explant I had the same blood tests as you had done.

Everything came back normal. My General is a friend of the family so he

has been trying to help. He still thinks I am nuts though! Anyway,

he thinks it's stress and my hair will stop falling out in a few months now

that I don't have them in. I am not on any thyroid medication

YET! I am not going down without a fight! I have an appt.

with an internist on the 28th of this Month. I am hoping she can help

find out what is going on with me! The only symptom I have is

chronic hair loss and it has not stopped since surgery...yet! I have

faith that it will. I was perfectly healthy going into this, and some how

it messed with my system enough to make my hair fall out! I think other

tests might prove that it is my Thyroid and after the 28th, I hope to have some

answers. I will keep you informed!

Marie

Re: can't believe it either

J,

Your really getting closer to the date here. I can

only imagine what

you are going through in your head.. like me.

So when does the mourning process begin? I feel

like it's beginning

for me now. Or is it after they are gone. I should

find a book on

grieving I guess. I just want to be prepared

emotionally. I'm

starting to cry as I write this. It's starting to

become a reality.

Thank God I found you guys on this site. Imagine

going through this

horror alone? Alone and to be told by others that there

is nothing

wrong with you, you are a hypochondriac.

I don't know what I will look like either post

explant but when I

spoke to at Dr. Feng's office, I explained

to her my situation

and how long the implants have been in and she

said I should go back

to pretty much what I was pre poison sac.

So, with that, I had to have this pretty little (

and they are

little) bras. I got the one's they call The Very

Sexy. They Are very

sexy... it's my favorite bra! It makes any small

woman look shapely.

It comes in all these pretty colors too.

In my mind I think that if I have these bras now,

I have hope for

mentally living through the process of this all.

Very strange how

the human mind works.

I never imagined I would be getting these things

out for good, I

never imagined that I would have to admit that

this is the problem.

Question for you J, Were you on thyroid

medication prior to the

implants or did you acquire this mishap after the

implants? I'm

wondering how many of us had to get on thyroid

meds post implantion.

I wouldn't have even gotten on them at all if it

weren't for my

aggressive persistence with the doctors.. All my

labs have been

squeaky clean normal.. unless ofcourse there are

certain tests which

would not be normal and I have'nt had them. And

truthfully, I don't

even want to know if something shows up bad, it'll

only give me

something else to obsess about all day long.

))))hugs((((

Dawn

> Dawn,

> Thanks for sharing so honestly. My

explant is in a couple of

weeks,

> 3/30. I have had some doubts in my

mind, like, well, maybe the

> antidepressants and the thyroid meds and the

season and the this

and

> that are causing me to feel like I've ran a

marathon even when I

> wake up in the mornings. I've begun to

rehearse the surgery in my

> head daily, and it's a lonely place. My

husband is mourning over

the

> loss of the big boobs, and he refuses to talk

to me about my

> decision to explant.

> I've been looking through the Secret

catalog and

thinking,

> wow, if I knew how much of my original

breasts I might retain

after

> the surgery, I could buy some of those cute

bras now. But I have

no

> idea what my breasts will look like after

surgery, and that is a

> little crazy-making in my head too.

> I am certain that explanting will improve my

health. But it is

kind

> of a mourning process, i.e. denial,

negotiation, anger, sadness,

and

> acceptance. I guess I go back and forth

and hopefully there is a

> pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

J

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