Re: Patty: Mycoplasma question

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

I never was officially tested for it in the sense that I got back any test results on paper that pointed to it.

My homeopathic doctor did some kind of in-office test, and then told me I had evidence of mycobacterial toxins, and gave me a homeopathic preparation for it. I still have that homeopathic in my cupboard. I just couldn't bring myself to take it for some reason. I might still!

I just generally went on the assumption that my body probably had things in it that shouldn't be there (parasites, viruses, fungus, bacteria) from my implant nightmare, and I took various steps to try to attack those issues. Things like ozone therapy (ear insufflations, ozone sauna, vaginal insufflations, enemas), parasite cleanse, lots and lots of raw garlic, various other supplements that were antifungal, antibacterial, anti-viral, such as caprylic acid, oil of oregano, grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, aloe vera, coconut oil, mushrooms. I researched and researched as much as I could and did what I could afford and what I was comfortable with. I was never much comfortable with drugs, as you all know.

Maybe it took me longer, but I have no complaints! At least nothing that I regret other than getting the blasted implants in the first place. But then, where would I have learned all this valuable info and met all of you kind ladies?

There's always a way to make lemonade out of lemons!

God bless,

Pattybethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

Patty,Didn't you have a mycoplasma infection? How did you treat it? Just curious,hugs,BethOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Patty my Dr.says that micoplasm are in everyone. I did

not push for it either. I just think that I will be

like you and try things my self. I can not afford the

homeopathic Dr. right now. Maybe when I get back to

work.

I read somewhere that garlic in powder form is the

best, it was in allternative medicine magazine. I

still have the article and the magazine if anyone is

interested in what it says. Do you read that magazine?

I want to get a subscription. I can not recall the

entire article but that was what it said. I think it

is in relation to heart conditions though.

I think that some people heal faster than others, from

my research because of how much they do physcially as

well as nutrition. I want to do both things thanks to

this site I am learning. Patty do you think that you

do enough exercise and that your nutrition was good

enough in the beginning? I am wanting to know more

about those that healed faster than others, if they

did more exercise, or if they did a special diet not

just suplements.

I am a firm believer that eating right is very

important.

Annie

--- Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> Hi Beth,

> I never was officially tested for it in the sense

> that I got back any test results on paper that

> pointed to it.

>

> My homeopathic doctor did some kind of in-office

> test, and then told me I had evidence of

> mycobacterial toxins, and gave me a homeopathic

> preparation for it. I still have that homeopathic

> in my cupboard. I just couldn't bring myself to

> take it for some reason. I might still!

>

> I just generally went on the assumption that my body

> probably had things in it that shouldn't be there

> (parasites, viruses, fungus, bacteria) from my

> implant nightmare, and I took various steps to try

> to attack those issues. Things like ozone therapy

> (ear insufflations, ozone sauna, vaginal

> insufflations, enemas), parasite cleanse, lots and

> lots of raw garlic, various other supplements that

> were antifungal, antibacterial, anti-viral, such as

> caprylic acid, oil of oregano, grapefruit seed

> extract, olive leaf extract, aloe vera, coconut oil,

> mushrooms. I researched and researched as much as I

> could and did what I could afford and what I was

> comfortable with. I was never much comfortable with

> drugs, as you all know.

>

> Maybe it took me longer, but I have no complaints!

> At least nothing that I regret other than getting

> the blasted implants in the first place. But then,

> where would I have learned all this valuable info

> and met all of you kind ladies?

> There's always a way to make lemonade out of lemons!

> God bless,

> Patty

>

> bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

>

> Patty,

>

> Didn't you have a mycoplasma infection? How did you

> treat it? Just

> curious,

>

> hugs,

> Beth

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed health care

> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Annie

I just wanted to add a little info about mycoplasma. First, not

everyone has

mycoplasma. And of those who do, most are not considered to be

fairly benign. There are only a few that are associated with

autoimmune illness. The kinds

associated heavily with autoimmune illness are fermantans, hominus,

pneumonis. Especially fermantans which was apparently a military

germ warfare alternation of a regular mycoplasma. I was diagnosed

by a reputable source--The arthritis Institute in land. I have

both fermantans and hominus. I was diagnosed by my doctor with

Mixed Connective Tissue Disease with mainly lupus features. Guess

what---hominus is very strongly associated with lupus.

Of course there are people out there with mycoplasma that aren't

sick. The same as for epstein barr virus , strep, etc. There are

people who have had epstein barr and seem perfectly healthy, yet

others have chronic fatigue syndrome and it is even directly related

to some forms of cancer in children. The point is that having a

particular pathogen isn't the whole story. MOre important is how

many other pathogens you have, how strong your body's immune system

is, your stress level, whether you have any detoxification pathway

deficits and countless other things. In fact, I just read an

article today talking about the people who got Gulf War Syndrome

were missing (or had a reduced amount of) an important enzyme for

detoxification. The author stated that those equally exposed to

sarin gas that didn't get sick had much higher levels of this enzyme.

So the doctor that said that everyone has mycoplasma and that isn't

important doesn't know what he talking about. I find that the case

with most doctors. They " hear " someone else say something and don't

have the interest or the time to research it for themselves.

I will can tell you that that antibiotic therapy that was predicated

on the

mycoplasma theory of infection works and works well! Somewhere

between 66% and 85% will experience real improvement on it!! And

there have been double blind studies done that bear it out. As far

as I know, it is the only real therapy out there that wiil give most

people with the horrific scleroderma a chance at remission.

There are many ways to kill mycoplasma other than the antibiotic

therapy though it is certainly the best researched and studied.

OLive leaf extract, immunocal and oil of oregano can work against

mycoplasma also. Anything that helps your body's defenses get

stronger will help it defend against mycoplasma.

Antibiotic therapy turned some really terrible

symptoms around for me very quickly. I am not currently on it, but

I wouldn't hesitate for a second to go back on it if my scleroderma

symptoms would return in earnest. It is nice to know it is there if

I should need it again. It is being tested on multiple sclerosis,

als, and other diseases that were never thought to have mycoplasmal

or bacterial causes. I think ultimately we will find all illness is

caused by these and other pathogens gaining a stronghold in our

bodies. This is where we can help ourselves immensely by reducing

our toxic exposures, detoxing, and putting into our bodies the

things it needs to compensate for its deficits! It is my opinion

that if someone gives all the natural detox methods a try and

doesn't experience any improvement, then antibiotic therapy is a

very worthwhile thing to try next. And if I was diagnosed with

scleroderma, lupus, or fast progressing Rheumatoid arthritis, I

wouldn't hesitate to try it to begin with. There are just too many

people out there who have had great results and I know many of

them.

hugs

kathy

Hugs, kathy

> >

> > Patty,

> >

> > Didn't you have a mycoplasma infection? How did you

> > treat it? Just

> > curious,

> >

> > hugs,

> > Beth

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given by licensed health care

> > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any

> > medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >