Re: Question about GW and the The Work - Isabel

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> Perhaps you might want to be angry at the voting machines and optical

> scanners that voted for Bush many times more than the actual number

> of voters! (or at least the powers that utilized them for their own

> gain).

> Check this out and you'll see what I mean:

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> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud.html

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Thank you - As a active member of moveon.org and common cause I

am so aware of the supposed voting fraud. Until it is brought to

light and publically talked about, I'm left wondering what is true,

not true...

I do think that Kerry conceded way too early...

I also think that this win more than a Kerry win has given me a true

test of just how peaceful I think I am.

Note to Isabel - Thank you for sending me your Bush worksheet offline.

I was moved by your work and could not believe how similar we are in

thought.

However, I find that I get a feel for this statement ... the work is

to lull me into a pacifictic place of non-action. I'm not finding

that true for me. I find my work on Bush clarifying MY values and

becoming increasingly moved to truly live them.

But I also notice that I am articulate and well-read. When I meet

someone who endorses Bush, I can lull them into areas of agreement and

then use superb debating skills to completely annihilate them.

I use their eyes like one would use a slot machine.

Ba ching - That was triple cherry comment - as I see their fuses blow.

I notice that my desire to serve democratic ideals is increased and

using the work simply as some sort of pacifier doesn't work.

But neither do I wish to keep doing what I find myself currently doing.

While ridiculously satisfying, I'm also getting that it's just another

addictive, out of balance response to my own inner work.

Blessings - Jan

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> But I also notice that I am articulate and well-read. When I meet

> someone who endorses Bush, I can lull them into areas of agreement

> and then use superb debating skills to completely annihilate them.

>

Wow Jan, I wish I was as powerful as you are.

In my world I would be very confused if I thought I had the power to

infulence anyone but me. However, I do like the stories I sometimes

tell about how my words or actions changed someone else.

My experience is that the world is just my projection. It changes as

I change the story I am believing, not because of anything I say or

do.

" Sanity doesn't suffer, ever . . . ever! Sanity doesn't suffer,

ever, ever! Isn't that lovely? " Byron

Oh and I am a Bush supporter, and would love a demonstration

of how you could lull me into areas of agreement and then totally

annihilate me. Who knows perhaps I could lull you into areas of

agreement with Bush and annihilate you with my superb debating

skills. LOL ....

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> > But I also notice that I am articulate and well-read. When I meet

> > someone who endorses Bush, I can lull them into areas of agreement

> > and then use superb debating skills to completely annihilate them.

> >

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> Wow Jan, I wish I was as powerful as you are.

>

> In my world I would be very confused if I thought I had the power to

> infulence anyone but me. However, I do like the stories I sometimes

> tell about how my words or actions changed someone else.

Wake up - nothing is more beautiful than manipulating the mirror so

that someone can see more clearly. It's what does...My lens may

not be as clear as hers, but in the consciousness chain of life a

clearer mirror can always offer a reflection for one further down the

chain of consciousness.

I'm aware that my intent is still based in confusion...thinking that

the person I'm talking to is wrong and I'm right.

THAT'S what I'm working on undoing...

sooooo buying into that bush is wrong...

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> Wake up - nothing is more beautiful than manipulating the mirror so

> that someone can see more clearly. It's what does...My lens

> may not be as clear as hers, but in the consciousness chain of life

> a clearer mirror can always offer a reflection for one further down

> the chain of consciousness.

>

Jan in my world does NOTHING. Jesus, Buddha, or any other

enlightened soul could be standing before me telling me the most

profound truths, and the ONLY thing that effects me is my STORY about

what they are saying.

If Jesus, Buddha or could influence anyone then the world would

have been saved thousands of years ago. Have you noticed that nothing

has really changed in the last two thousand years. We continue to

lie, cheat, kill, rape, steal etc. ... etc. until we don't.

Now has given us the Work, but I have noticed that it is ONLY

my story about the Work that has lead me to practice it. It is ONLY

my story about its effectiveness that keeps me practicing it. Even if

I go to 's school for the Work, it's still only my story that

makes it heaven or hell, it has NOTHING at all to do with .

has no more influence over me than a cockroach crawling over my

foot. I save me or I don't and I can use any tool I want to get there

(ACIM, the Work, etc.)

" Sanity doesn't suffer, ever . . . ever! Sanity doesn't suffer,

ever, ever! Isn't that lovely? " Byron

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" lovetheworkofbk " " neo " wrote:

> > Wake up - nothing is more beautiful than manipulating the mirror so

> > that someone can see more clearly. It's what does...My lens

> > may not be as clear as hers, but in the consciousness chain of life

> > a clearer mirror can always offer a reflection for one further down

> > the chain of consciousness.

> >

>

>

> Jan in my world does NOTHING. Jesus, Buddha, or any other

> enlightened soul could be standing before me telling me the most

> profound truths, and the ONLY thing that effects me is my STORY about

> what they are saying.

You can keep your story. In my experience , Jesus, Buddha need

do nothing - the fact that they sometimes kept an unbroken connection

to what IS rocks my world.

>

> If Jesus, Buddha or could influence anyone then the world would

> have been saved thousands of years ago. Have you noticed that nothing

> has really changed in the last two thousand years. We continue to

> lie, cheat, kill, rape, steal etc. ... etc. until we don't.

Strictly your story. My noticings are completely different. I've

noticed that by being in the presence of folks who keep that

" connection " more deeply than I, I am allowed to " see " and change

happens. The only change I'm talkin' about is the change from

identifying with body, money, people, etc. to simply sinking into

experiencing that which is.

Perhaps just a story - brain chemistry, functioning of person living

in present moment is altered from normal consciousness. The further

" off the beam " the more altered the brain scan. Because the brain

entrains itself to its environment - what you saturate your mind with

you become...the brain will entrain to a brain that is more in touch

with truth and the lesser brain alter towards the saner brain - in

other words the " lesser " brain actually begins to operate differently

when around someone who is more " connected " .

For me until I can defy the laws of science, science is a useful story.

For me this is a happy story. For me that means just by being around

a Jesus, Buddha or lesser beings in Truth like , Tolle, etc. they

influence me - without me needing to think a single thought.

>

> Now has given us the Work, but I have noticed that it is ONLY

> my story about the Work that has lead me to practice it. It is ONLY

> my story about its effectiveness that keeps me practicing it. Even if

> I go to 's school for the Work, it's still only my story that

> makes it heaven or hell, it has NOTHING at all to do with .

>

> has no more influence over me than a cockroach crawling over my

> foot.

> I save me or I don't and I can use any tool I want to get there

> (ACIM, the Work, etc.)

I love this statement...In ACIM operating at the decision maker level

of being and I just think it takes willingness (I choose to be willing

to see this differently)...no tool, just willingness and methodology

tailor made for you appears...

Blessings - Jan

Blessings - Jan