RE: Adrenals & questions about Muscle Twitching

[Guest guest]

Asking for offlist responses is against our rules. It is however all right to make off-topic posts on neutral subjects, including other health concerns.

Posts about doctors are considered very much on topic. I would add that the database is a place where folks can anonymously evaluate docs they have seen. Not even the moderators can find out who posted what.

Finding a good thyroid/adrenal doc who takes insurance is a tall order. Owens may be able to help you, but she will not Rx hydrocortisone longterm. is in network for some insurance, and he is the expert on hormones.

>> I'm so grateful for the support and advice I've received so far. After> reading more about adrenal fatigue, I am convinced I want to at least do> some saliva testing. I am curious why my symptoms have suddenly worsened> over the last few months. I have the canaryclub website and Dr.> Christensen's name, but I'd love any other recommendations of where I might> go to get a more full picture of my hormonal state including adrenals. I'd> prefer someone who takes insurance and is fairly local to Dallas, but I'm> intrigued by the idea of a doctor who is worth traveling to see (i.e., dr in> Lubbock). Any recommendations, please send them my way.> > > > My other question is on behalf of my husband. As I mentioned in one email,> he's been having crazy health issues that no one can figure out. He has a> blood test that shows he is losing protein from his muscles and is> experiencing muscle twitching all over his body (esp in his extremities).> He is extremely easily fatigued, deficient in many nutrients (per> naturopath's blood work eval). He has developed carpal tunnel and his neck> is so easily fatigued from looking down at his computer that he has to take> breaks and sometimes gets bad headaches/almost migraines. He's also been> very stressed and under a lot of pressure lately. He also has pretty bad> allergies here in Dallas. I won't go into every symptom right now, but> wondered if anyone had advice on tests he might request or doctors he might> want to consider seeing. He's been screened for almost every cancer under> the sun and has had neurological testing for ALS. So far the tests are> negative, but they acknowledge there are symptoms they can't explain. The> intuitive advice he's gotten is that he needs to drastically reduce stress> and avoid as many toxins as possible (we're concerned about our house in> that regard, but not sure how to evaluate).> > > > Anyway.any advice on or off list is appreciated. I hope I'm not breaking> the rules asking on his behalf since it might be off topic. If so, please> let me know. I did get his okay to ask first. He and I were both intrigued> to hear of anyone else experiencing muscle twitching.> > > > Thanks again,> > Grace>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone checked your husband’s

adrenal function?

I’m one that travels to Lubbock. Actually

my family of 4 all go out there. Both of my daughters are

hypothyroid. I have low adrenal and low thyroid function. I

recently got my husband to go in January. He has multiple hormone

imbalances including thyroid. We were all also deficient in B vitamins

and ferritin. It has been worth every penny and minute that we have

invested to go out there. Dr is very good about getting to the

root cause of the problem rather then treating symptoms.

Kim in No Texas

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Grace

Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:10

PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Adrenals & questions about Muscle Twitching

I’m

so grateful for the support and advice I’ve received so far. After

reading more about adrenal fatigue, I am convinced I want to at least do some

saliva testing. I am curious why my symptoms have suddenly worsened over

the last few months. I have the canaryclub website and Dr.

Christensen’s name, but I’d love any other recommendations of where

I might go to get a more full picture of my hormonal state including

adrenals. I’d prefer someone who takes insurance and is fairly local

to Dallas, but I’m intrigued by the idea

of a doctor who is worth traveling to see (i.e., dr in Lubbock). Any recommendations, please

send them my way…

My

other question is on behalf of my husband. As I mentioned in one email,

he’s been having crazy health issues that no one can figure out. He

has a blood test that shows he is losing protein from his muscles and is

experiencing muscle twitching all over his body (esp in his extremities).

He is extremely easily fatigued, deficient in many nutrients (per naturopath’s

blood work eval). He has developed carpal tunnel and his neck is so

easily fatigued from looking down at his computer that he has to take breaks

and sometimes gets bad headaches/almost migraines. He’s also been

very stressed and under a lot of pressure lately. He also has pretty bad

allergies here in Dallas.

I won’t go into every symptom right now, but wondered if anyone had

advice on tests he might request or doctors he might want to consider

seeing. He’s been screened for almost every cancer under the sun

and has had neurological testing for ALS. So far the tests are negative,

but they acknowledge there are symptoms they can’t explain. The

intuitive advice he’s gotten is that he needs to drastically reduce

stress and avoid as many toxins as possible (we’re concerned about our

house in that regard, but not sure how to evaluate).

Anyway…any

advice on or off list is appreciated. I hope I’m not breaking the

rules asking on his behalf since it might be off topic. If so, please let

me know. I did get his okay to ask first. He and I were both

intrigued to hear of anyone else experiencing muscle twitching.

Thanks

again,

Grace

[Guest guest]

I don’t think anyone has checked his

adrenals, nor his thyroid for that matter. And the funny thing is he

tells me that he was on thyroid when he was younger (a kid, I think), but only

for a short time. He is 63 and said they didn’t do blood tests for

thyroid then. I can’t remember how he said they did the

diagnosis. He also struggles with weight and crazy sugar cravings, so it

just seems an obvious test.

Traveling to Lubbock is feeling right to me

for some reason. I even mentioned it to my husband today and he said,

well, that could easily be a day trip.

Thanks!

From:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On

Behalf Of Kim in No Texas

Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:52

PM

To:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: RE:

Adrenals & questions about Muscle Twitching

Has anyone checked your husband’s

adrenal function?

I’m one that travels to Lubbock.

Actually my family of 4 all go out there. Both of my daughters are

hypothyroid. I have low adrenal and low thyroid function. I

recently got my husband to go in January. He has multiple hormone

imbalances including thyroid. We were all also deficient in B vitamins

and ferritin. It has been worth every penny and minute that we have invested

to go out there. Dr is very good about getting to the root cause

of the problem rather then treating symptoms.

Kim in No Texas

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the clarification, Jan. I only

asked for offlist as to not clutter up the list if it was off topic (as is

preferred on some other lists I’ve been on). Glad it’s not a

problem to ask.

I will check more into the database of the

group. I haven’t seen that – only the top thyroid docs website. I

assume you are referring to a list on the yahoo home page.

I guess I am open to going outside

insurance, but want a good doc and not too alternative (I’ve done the

alternative run around and been disappointed, so I’m a bit guarded

there). I am still a fan of acupuncture, etc., just leery of a certain type of

alternative doc (difficult to explain). Back to going out of network or

insurance…I was curious about Dr. Marina , but noticed her fees

are *very* high. I’d want to be sure that was my best option before

plopping down nearly $4000.

[Guest guest]

Besides the Database, there is our Texas Armour Docs list maintained by the moderator in "Files."

If you see a doc on Shomon's Top Doc list and do not see that doc on our list, there is usually a good reason for that. Someone mentioned Mabray. I removed him from our list because he will not Rx over 120 mg of Armour. Ditto for Ozan.

>> Thanks for the clarification, Jan. I only asked for offlist as to not> clutter up the list if it was off topic (as is preferred on some other lists> I've been on). Glad it's not a problem to ask.> > > > I will check more into the database of the group. I haven't seen that -> only the top thyroid docs website. I assume you are referring to a list on> the yahoo home page.> > > > I guess I am open to going outside insurance, but want a good doc and not> too alternative (I've done the alternative run around and been disappointed,> so I'm a bit guarded there). I am still a fan of acupuncture, etc., just> leery of a certain type of alternative doc (difficult to explain). Back to> going out of network or insurance.I was curious about Dr. Marina ,> but noticed her fees are *very* high. I'd want to be sure that was my best> option before plopping down nearly $4000.>

[Guest guest]

dr ozan did prescribe 2.5 gr for me of armour plus 60 mcg t4.

steph

Re: Adrenals & questions about Muscle Twitching

Besides the Database, there is our Texas Armour Docs list maintained by the moderator in "Files."

If you see a doc on Shomon's Top Doc list and do not see that doc on our list, there is usually a good reason for that. Someone mentioned Mabray. I removed him from our list because he will not Rx over 120 mg of Armour. Ditto for Ozan.

>

> Thanks for the clarification, Jan. I only asked for offlist as to not

> clutter up the list if it was off topic (as is preferred on some other lists

> I've been on). Glad it's not a problem to ask.

>

>

>

> I will check more into the database of the group. I haven't seen that -

> only the top thyroid docs website. I assume you are referring to a list on

> the yahoo home page.

>

>

>

> I guess I am open to going outside insurance, but want a good doc and not

> too alternative (I've done the alternative run around and been disappointed,

> so I'm a bit guarded there). I am still a fan of acupuncture, etc., just

> leery of a certain type of alternative doc (difficult to explain). Back to

> going out of network or insurance.I was curious about Dr. Marina ,

> but noticed her fees are *very* high. I'd want to be sure that was my best

> option before plopping down nearly $4000.

>

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[Guest guest]

That is the highest dose I have heard of him prescribing. And it still would leave many folks undermedicated.

> >> > Thanks for the clarification, Jan. I only asked for offlist as to not> > clutter up the list if it was off topic (as is preferred on some other lists> > I've been on). Glad it's not a problem to ask.> > > > > > > > I will check more into the database of the group. I haven't seen that -> > only the top thyroid docs website. I assume you are referring to a list on> > the yahoo home page.> > > > > > > > I guess I am open to going outside insurance, but want a good doc and not> > too alternative (I've done the alternative run around and been disappointed,> > so I'm a bit guarded there). I am still a fan of acupuncture, etc., just> > leery of a certain type of alternative doc (difficult to explain). Back to> > going out of network or insurance.I was curious about Dr. Marina ,> > but noticed her fees are *very* high. I'd want to be sure that was my best> > option before plopping down nearly $4000.> >>

[Guest guest]

yes, i know...i am still not sure i am at my optimal level..although lately i have been feeling nervous. I had to cut down...not sue though if i need to cut down on the armour or the t4...i am trying to decide who to go to....i may just go back to manzanero in light of all his talk about neurotoxins.

I did have what I would call CFS...then I had all the mercury in my mouth removed...shortly thereafter I started having the bouts of thyroiditis. The CFS got better, though - at least I could get out of bed and stopped having diarrhea. Although I am soooo much better than 4 years ago, symptoms continue. I guess that's why manzanero recommended chelation....I have become open to it...

steph

Re: Adrenals & questions about Muscle Twitching

That is the highest dose I have heard of him prescribing. And it still would leave many folks undermedicated.

> >

> > Thanks for the clarification, Jan. I only asked for offlist as to not

> > clutter up the list if it was off topic (as is preferred on some other lists

> > I've been on). Glad it's not a problem to ask.

> >

> >

> >

> > I will check more into the database of the group. I haven't seen that -

> > only the top thyroid docs website. I assume you are referring to a list on

> > the yahoo home page.

> >

> >

> >

> > I guess I am open to going outside insurance, but want a good doc and not

> > too alternative (I've done the alternative run around and been disappointed,

> > so I'm a bit guarded there). I am still a fan of acupuncture, etc., just

> > leery of a certain type of alternative doc (difficult to explain). Back to

> > going out of network or insurance.I was curious about Dr. Marina ,

> > but noticed her fees are *very* high. I'd want to be sure that was my best> > option before plopping down nearly $4000.

> >

>

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