RE: RE: Marie- can't believe it either

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Great advise Dawn And you are right, my t3 with my t4 has saved my life, but not until I insisted on it with over 4 docs, before I got that treatment. They wanted me on just t4 alone. Love

>From: "Dawn Aldredge" <dawn.aldredge@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: RE: Marie- can't believe it either >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:04:46 -0500 > >Hi Marie, >Please hold on a sec before you insist on thyroid hormone. There are a >few markers you need to identify before going that route, I will >explain. Also, you need to know that if you take thyroid hormone and you >don't actually need it you are most certainly doing yourself much more >harm than good. Plus if you do have the markers I describe you need to >know the side effects of some of these drugs that the doctors do not >tell you. > >Are you absolutely sure that hair loss is your only symptom? How are >your nails by the way? > >Symptoms of hypothyroidism are very similar to symptoms related to >breast implants.. here are some: >Freezing cold.. to the bone, your body cannot warm up >Hair loss >Weak brittle nails >Inappropriate weight gain or sometimes weight loss due to lack of >appetite >Myexedema ( non pitting water retention) >DISABLING fatigue. down right disabling >Sexual problems ( ya know what I mean) >Facial bloating >Loss of the outer 1/3 of eyebrows >Slow reflexes >Slowed speech >Memory problems (brain fog) > >These are just some of them and again they commingle with effects of >breast implants. Do you have any other of these things? How about >atleast the brittle nails and fatigue? Anything is possible though. Some >people do only have minor symptoms when hypothyroid. No, not that hair >loss is minor.. it's devastating actually. > >Here's the thing.. I demanded to have the proper lab tests done on me >because you cannot be diagnosed based upon TSH alone. There are also new >guidelines for TSH that are not on the lab reference, oh what a pain in >the butt this is. The American Association of Endocrinologists have >declared that a person be deemed hypothyroid if TSH is above 3.0. But in >truth, if you have the symptoms, that really doesn't mean diddly. > >An excellent no bs site to visit is healthboards.com and scroll down to >thyroid disorders. > >The lab tests you need to have done are : >TSH >Free T4 >Free T3 >Anti peroxidase AB ( this is an antibody test, all other tests can be >squeaky clean, but if this one shows up, you could be hypo) >There is another antibody test too, I can't think of it at the moment.. >I can get it if you want it.. but atleast this will get you started. >Actually, Patty said she has hashimoto's so she would probably know the >other antibody test. > >Another thing.. Please I hope nobody takes this the wrong way.. but >studies show that the " t4 only" medications, such as synthroid/levoxyl >do not relieve all symptoms and in fact can cause additional weight gain >and hair loss. I have so much more info on that topic but I don't want >to stray from the point I am trying to make. My point is .. should you >require thyroid meds.. It is my opinion and experience (and others as >well, go to healthboards.com/thyroid disorders) that t3/t4 combo meds >are far superior to synthroid. There are some people who DO do just fine >on synthroid, but a large percentage do not. I am telling you this >because the synthroid reps are out and about kicking back the docs to >prescribe that drug. another story for another day. Just something to >have in your back pocket incase someone puts you on t4 and it does not >work. > >I take armour thyroid combined with cytomel. The dose I take is >astronomical. No doctor I have ever been to has ever seen such a thing. >For more info on that you can go to drlowe.com. I love that guy.. he has >helped me a lot over the years. > >So, if you feel absolutely fine except for the hair loss, please just be >careful about jumping into thyroid meds. It's not even a month yet that >the implants are out. For me, I knew that doing another surgery would >probably cause additional hair loss because of the stress caused by it. >So I am preparing for that part. I lost a ton of hair when I had the >implants put in.. but that was definitely related to the surgery. I >could tell because it was exactly the same type loss as I had after I >gave birth to daughter #2. If you have your lab reports I would love to >help you figure them out and tell you what is a concern and what is >not.. I have been down and around this road so long I could probably >right my own book on thyroid disorders!!! > >Hang in there.. I am feeling for you, I have the hair loss too, really >bad. I 'm with ya. >Hugs, >Dawn > > > Re: Re: can't believe it either > >Hi Dawn...I had my explant 3/03. Before explant I had the same blood >tests as you had done. Everything came back normal. My General is a >friend of the family so he has been trying to help. He still thinks I >am nuts though! Anyway, he thinks it's stress and my hair will stop >falling out in a few months now that I don't have them in. I am not on >any thyroid medication YET! I am not going down without a fight! I >have an appt. with an internist on the 28th of this Month. I am hoping >she can help find out what is going on with me! The only symptom I have >is chronic hair loss and it has not stopped since surgery...yet! I have >faith that it will. I was perfectly healthy going into this, and some >how it messed with my system enough to make my hair fall out! I think >other tests might prove that it is my Thyroid and after the 28th, I hope >to have some answers. I will keep you informed! > >Marie > > Re: can't believe it either > > >J, >Your really getting closer to the date here. I can only imagine what >you are going through in your head.. like me. > >So when does the mourning process begin? I feel like it's beginning >for me now. Or is it after they are gone. I should find a book on >grieving I guess. I just want to be prepared emotionally. I'm >starting to cry as I write this. It's starting to become a reality. > >Thank God I found you guys on this site. Imagine going through this >horror alone? Alone and to be told by others that there is nothing >wrong with you, you are a hypochondriac. > >I don't know what I will look like either post explant but when I >spoke to at Dr. Feng's office, I explained to her my situation >and how long the implants have been in and she said I should go back >to pretty much what I was pre poison sac. > >So, with that, I had to have this pretty little ( and they are >little) bras. I got the one's they call The Very Sexy. They Are very >sexy... it's my favorite bra! It makes any small woman look shapely. >It comes in all these pretty colors too. > >In my mind I think that if I have these bras now, I have hope for >mentally living through the process of this all. Very strange how >the human mind works. > >I never imagined I would be getting these things out for good, I >never imagined that I would have to admit that this is the problem. > >Question for you J, Were you on thyroid medication prior to the >implants or did you acquire this mishap after the implants? I'm >wondering how many of us had to get on thyroid meds post implantion. > >I wouldn't have even gotten on them at all if it weren't for my >aggressive persistence with the doctors.. All my labs have been >squeaky clean normal.. unless ofcourse there are certain tests which >would not be normal and I have'nt had them. And truthfully, I don't >even want to know if something shows up bad, it'll only give me >something else to obsess about all day long. > >))))hugs(((( >Dawn > > > Dawn, > > Thanks for sharing so honestly. My explant is in a couple of >weeks, > > 3/30. I have had some doubts in my mind, like, well, maybe the > > antidepressants and the thyroid meds and the season and the this >and > > that are causing me to feel like I've ran a marathon even when I > > wake up in the mornings. I've begun to rehearse the surgery in my > > head daily, and it's a lonely place. My husband is mourning over >the > > loss of the big boobs, and he refuses to talk to me about my > > decision to explant. > > I've been looking through the Secret catalog and >thinking, > > wow, if I knew how much of my original breasts I might retain >after > > the surgery, I could buy some of those cute bras now. But I have >no > > idea what my breasts will look like after surgery, and that is a > > little crazy-making in my head too. > > I am certain that explanting will improve my health. But it is >kind > > of a mourning process, i.e. denial, negotiation, anger, sadness, >and > > acceptance. I guess I go back and forth and hopefully there is a > > pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. J > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead >you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how >to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus >ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >