Re: Anita, here's my history

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Cheryl,

I assume with all the problems you've had that you've

taken a lot of antibiotics. . .

The antibiotics could be causing one of your problems.

Antibiotics kill off the beneficial organisms our body

needs to get nourishment from our foods to keep our

bodies healthy. . .

Once you have an overgrowth, it can affect you

everywhere. . . Read " The Yeast Connection " , or

another later book. . . dealing with Yeast is a major

problem that's vastly under treated by conventional

medicine. It requires careful diet management along

with anti-fungals like Nystatin.

Once you start killing off Yeast (we can call it

fungus/Candida/yeast/thrush, etc.), it produces a

toxic substance that accumulates in the liver. That's

why liver flushes are so beneficial.

It takes long term management to get better, since the

yeast organisms regrow much more vigorously than the

beneficial organisms . . which may never return.

Primal Defense contains organisms from the soil that

we miss because of the way our foods are grown and

processed.

Getting this back in balance is tough, to say the

least. But, it's well worth it. Patty posted and

excellent article on eating fermented foods. . . A

great way to put the good stuff back!

Hugs,

Rogene

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Hi Cheryl,

Is it a coincidence? After giving birth to

my second daughter 6/01, I had a touch of post partum depression also. I

recovered from that and in May of ’02, 11 months after the birth I got

implants. Prior to implants I had no pain,no

hair loss, no disabling fatigue, no weight problem, no skin problems.. just to name a very few. I was disabled completely by Nov. ’02.

Like you, I have always believed that my

illnesses were due to the birth of my 2nd. Only now after being forced to sit down

and acknowledge the fact that I never had any of these symptoms pre implant do

I admit that …. Implants must be the problem. My thought is further

reinforced by the similar stories of other women, such as yourself!

My fear is that if I do not do this now, I

could damage my body beyond any HOPE of repair. The illness has been going on

far too long and I cannot outrun it. I have given up control of my body to

these foreign objects and I want it back.

No one can tell you what is best for your body, you know that, you are a nurse. You will come to some

type of a conclusion at some point.

I am not guaranteed that I will get well

after these things are out, but I am guaranteed peace of mind. To be honest

though, My gut instinct tells me that I am going to

outrun this thing when the implants are out, there will no longer be a question

in my mind. I am going to get well, what ever it takes.

Hope you don’t mind the input…

I know I kind of jumped in here.

Dawn

Anita,

here's my history

Anita,

Ok here goes the history: Completely healthy,

except some occasional

back pain from back surgery.

1. Implants placed 4/94. Only problem was incision

infection post-op,

but no capsules until yrs. after breastfeeding.

2. Twins delivered 10/99. Tried to breastfeed, but

was unsuccessful,

pumping and feeding every 2 hrs.,this went on

about 2-3 weeks.

3. Post-partum depression at 6 weeks.

4. Approx. 1 yr. later, noticed I had developed

capsules.

Had 7 abdominal surgeries, by the time the boys

were 2 y/o.

5. 1/02 Developed dermatologic symptoms. 2/02 Dx.

Sweet's Syndrome.

By the end of '02, I started developing

rheumatologic symptoms,

muscle pain and spasms, fatigue, etc...

6. Adding more symptoms over time. After many, many

dr.s, 6/04

finally dx. with: CFS/FMS, Sjorgen's syndrome,

" Mixed bag of auto-

immune diseases " , chronic

sinusitis/bronchitis, chronic pain,

abdominal adhesions. Put on steroids off & on

for 6 mo.

This is pretty much where I'm at today. Seems the

pregnancy changed a

whole lot of things in my body. Anyway, believe it

or not this is the

highlighted version.

I know you all think it's the implants, I'm still

researching &

educating myself, luckily I have my RN/BSN to draw

on, while going

through this process. Sorry so long!

Cheryl

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[Guest guest]

Cheryl, It sounds like a typical implant story to me. Did you know that Sjorgen's is one of the categories in the Dow Settlement? Also, I think chronic fatigue comes under the Connective Tissue category. Also, I think you are lucky that you couldn't breastfeed. There are many children that are terribly sick and can't swallow that were breastfed with implants. Love, Anita Anita, here's my history Anita,Ok here goes the history: Completely healthy, except some occasional back pain from back surgery.1. Implants placed 4/94. Only problem was incision infection post-op, but no capsules until yrs. after breastfeeding.2. Twins delivered 10/99. Tried to breastfeed, but was unsuccessful, pumping and feeding every 2 hrs.,this went on about 2-3 weeks.3. Post-partum depression at 6 weeks.4. Approx. 1 yr. later, noticed I had developed capsules.Had 7 abdominal surgeries, by the time the boys were 2 y/o.5. 1/02 Developed dermatologic symptoms. 2/02 Dx. Sweet's Syndrome.By the end of '02, I started developing rheumatologic symptoms, muscle pain and spasms, fatigue, etc...6. Adding more symptoms over time. After many, many dr.s, 6/04 finally dx. with: CFS/FMS, Sjorgen's syndrome, "Mixed bag of auto-immune diseases", chronic sinusitis/bronchitis, chronic pain, abdominal adhesions. Put on steroids off & on for 6 mo.This is pretty much where I'm at today. Seems the pregnancy changed a whole lot of things in my body. Anyway, believe it or not this is the highlighted version.I know you all think it's the implants, I'm still researching & educating myself, luckily I have my RN/BSN to draw on, while going through this process. Sorry so long!Cheryl

[Guest guest]

No Dow Settlement for me...I have Saline!

Thnx Anita

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Cheryl, Don't feel bad. The amounts the women are getting are an insult. The point I was making is that these diseases you are experiencing are typical for implant women. Love, Anita Re: Anita, here's my history No Dow Settlement for me...I have Saline!Thnx AnitaCheryl

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Cheryl

I definitely think your implants are the cause of your autoimmune

symptoms. You developed sweets syndrome way after you had the

implants put in. The pregnancy may have accelerated things. It is

well known, but poorly understood, that female hormones are

intimately connected with immune illness in women. That is why most

autoimmune diseases are much more prevalent in women than men, tend

to get better during pregnancy and much worse after birth.

Unfortunately, we can't alter that. The best we can do is try to

make sure that all of our hormones are in as much balance as they

can be---thyroid,adrenal, and female hormones. Since the autoimmune

illness Lupus runs terribly in my husband's family, I have always

stayed aware of the research. Current thinking is that while

genetics plays a role in developing lupus and most other autoimmune

illness, it is multifactorial and it usually takes an environmental

trigger to bring it out. In your case, you might have a

predisposition to autoimmune type illness, but it was the implants

that triggered it. Getting the implants out will still give you the

best chance to get well. So will getting your body the best it can

be afterwards through detoxing, good diet, exercise, etc. Trust your

instincts on this one---the implants need to go!

Hugs

Kathy

-- In , " Cheryl " <sunbum256@a...> wrote:

>

> Anita,

> Ok here goes the history: Completely healthy, except some

occasional

> back pain from back surgery.

> 1. Implants placed 4/94. Only problem was incision infection post-

op,

> but no capsules until yrs. after breastfeeding.

> 2. Twins delivered 10/99. Tried to breastfeed, but was

unsuccessful,

> pumping and feeding every 2 hrs.,this went on about 2-3 weeks.

> 3. Post-partum depression at 6 weeks.

> 4. Approx. 1 yr. later, noticed I had developed capsules.

> Had 7 abdominal surgeries, by the time the boys were 2 y/o.

> 5. 1/02 Developed dermatologic symptoms. 2/02 Dx. Sweet's Syndrome.

> By the end of '02, I started developing rheumatologic symptoms,

> muscle pain and spasms, fatigue, etc...

> 6. Adding more symptoms over time. After many, many dr.s, 6/04

> finally dx. with: CFS/FMS, Sjorgen's syndrome, " Mixed bag of auto-

> immune diseases " , chronic sinusitis/bronchitis, chronic pain,

> abdominal adhesions. Put on steroids off & on for 6 mo.

>

> This is pretty much where I'm at today. Seems the pregnancy

changed a

> whole lot of things in my body. Anyway, believe it or not this is

the

> highlighted version.

> I know you all think it's the implants, I'm still researching &

> educating myself, luckily I have my RN/BSN to draw on, while going

> through this process. Sorry so long!

> Cheryl