Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 No, that was not serious, this person is trying to cause problems. Lynda At 02:07 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: >I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art >teacher and know what is approprate and not. > Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be > joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old > child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I > am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child > you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but > actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean > a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If > the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. > The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the > enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this > really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the > members of this group? >I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them >before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned >for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my >attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social >servcies.It could be considered child abuse. > > > >Janie <jammin_janiej@...> wrote: >Just who the he** do you think you are? Threatening to report someone to >social services over conversation on the internet? Are you nuts or just >plain stupid? It seems to me as though most of the women on this site have >enough issues to deal with then throw a moron like yourself into the mix. >Unfreakenbelievable! >This woman is doing everything in her power to help her son then you come >along out of no where and threaten to contact social services because she >is giving her son an enema. GET A LIFE! Get over yourself. > >racesea <ladygracesea@...> wrote: > >It could be social services business! That may be child abuse! > > > > > >n , " anita kessler " <AnitaK001@m...> wrote: > > That would also be none of your business!!!!!!!!! > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centered >and > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life >back. > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2 > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others >helping > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Let's start with, would you report someone to social services for what you read on the internet? Don't you agree that FACTUAL information should be reported, not what you read in a posting on the internet. Secondly, if you had read prior postings, she stated the " she had her son doing" these enemas, nowhere did she state that she was in fact doing them for him. And as for the reasoning behind this treatment, again, I would like to suggest that you read her previous posts. And to accuse someone of "being too " because their childs health is in question is just absurd. <gustavaslav99@...> wrote: I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art teacher and know what is approprate and not. Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the members of this group? I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social servcies.It could be considered child abuse. Janie <jammin_janiej@...> wrote: Just who the he** do you think you are? Threatening to report someone to social services over conversation on the internet? Are you nuts or just plain stupid? It seems to me as though most of the women on this site have enough issues to deal with then throw a moron like yourself into the mix. Unfreakenbelievable! This woman is doing everything in her power to help her son then you come along out of no where and threaten to contact social services because she is giving her son an enema. GET A LIFE! Get over yourself. racesea <ladygracesea@...> wrote: It could be social services business! That may be child abuse!n , "anita kessler" <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:> That would also be none of your business!!!!!!!!!> > 17 days until explant> > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centeredand > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my lifeback. > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2 > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine othershelping > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for > > help. J> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Hi , First, I am glad you are researching implants before you get them, as there is much to know, and the dangers are rarely discussed fully. This group was started to help women get better once they have become ill from implants, so I hope you will be able to see how desperately ill some women have become. And not only the women, but even some of the children that have been born to them. There is a group for the women and their kids who have been harmed by breast implants (SiliconeKids), so perhaps this will be more fully discussed THERE, as that is the appropriate venue. However, I will defend Anita, as I know her, I know her heart, and I know that she has struggled with the illness of her son and received no help from mainstream medicine. If you are new to this group, then you couldn't know all the things that have gone on regarding the kinds of struggles that they have had to endure, nor the many forms of detoxification therapy that are used to get better. I can appreciate your concern....but before you make unfair judgements, you need to have FACTS. So, let me help you in that regard. Please research the use of Coffee Enemas in detoxification therapy. You will find much information, as this therapy has been used to cure cancers and other degenerative diseases through detoxification for decades. Dr. Max Gerson was the first medical professional to use this form of therapy in the 1930's and 1940's, and since then, scientific studies have proven how coffee works--through increased glutathione production and increased bile secretion, which assists the liver in this important task. Here are some links that I urge you to read: http://www.drlwilson.com/detox_protocols.htm http://www.sawilsons.com/liver.htm http://www.curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=31 & db=5 & C0=818 http://www.ineedcoffee.com/01/01/enema/ http://www.ralphmoss.com/coff.html http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/coffeeenemas.html http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/tek9.asp?pg=coffee Once you've familiarized yourself with the concepts of detoxification and understood the extent of the illness and pain some of us have suffered with, you will come to realize that Anita is filled with compassion for her son, and is struggling to help him. What she is doing is way more loving than what any doctor has offered her in regards to the health of her son. I hope that helps you , and I hope you will be able to see that having breast implants and getting sick from them is no picnic...enemas are something I'd much rather live without, but the truth is that they helped me greatly, and have saved the lives of countless people with all kinds of illness. Patty --- In , <gustavaslav99@y...> wrote: > I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art teacher and know what is approprate and not. > Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the members of this group? > I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social servcies.It could be considered child abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Lynda, You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right? , we do have many professional women here, and I think you can be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements about what is going on. Patty > > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going into your > > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of making the > > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a decision > > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being safe. > > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth. Stay > > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita > > > > > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centered > >and > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life > >back. > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2 > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others > >helping > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for > > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Please drop this unhelpful conversation. Lynda At 02:34 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: >Let's start with, would you report someone to social services for what you >read on the internet? Don't you agree that FACTUAL information should be >reported, not what you read in a posting on the internet. Secondly, if you >had read prior postings, she stated the " she had her son doing " these >enemas, nowhere did she state that she was in fact doing them for him. And >as for the reasoning behind this treatment, again, I would like to suggest >that you read her previous posts. >And to accuse someone of " being too " because their childs >health is in question is just absurd. > > <gustavaslav99@...> wrote: >I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art >teacher and know what is approprate and not. > Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be > joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old > child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I > am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child > you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but > actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean > a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If > the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. > The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the > enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this > really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the > members of this group? >I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them >before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned >for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my >attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social >servcies.It could be considered child abuse. > > > >Janie <jammin_janiej@...> wrote: >Just who the he** do you think you are? Threatening to report someone to >social services over conversation on the internet? Are you nuts or just >plain stupid? It seems to me as though most of the women on this site have >enough issues to deal with then throw a moron like yourself into the mix. >Unfreakenbelievable! >This woman is doing everything in her power to help her son then you come >along out of no where and threaten to contact social services because she >is giving her son an enema. GET A LIFE! Get over yourself. > >racesea <ladygracesea@...> wrote: > >It could be social services business! That may be child abuse! > > > > > >n , " anita kessler " <AnitaK001@m...> wrote: > > That would also be none of your business!!!!!!!!! > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centered >and > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life >back. > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2 > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others >helping > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I am sorry but Anita is a very good friend of mine and I have seen first hand the issues she has to deal with on a daily basis due to the toxicity of her son. I was quite offended that someone chose to pass judgment on these woman without all of the facts. I am sorry that you took offense to my postings but I felt the need to defend my best friend since she has more than enough issues to deal with.Lynda <coss@...> wrote: Please drop this unhelpful conversation.LyndaAt 02:34 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:>Let's start with, would you report someone to social services for what you >read on the internet? Don't you agree that FACTUAL information should be >reported, not what you read in a posting on the internet. Secondly, if you >had read prior postings, she stated the " she had her son doing" these >enemas, nowhere did she state that she was in fact doing them for him. And >as for the reasoning behind this treatment, again, I would like to suggest >that you read her previous posts.>And to accuse someone of "being too " because their childs >health is in question is just absurd.>> <gustavaslav99@...> wrote:>I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art >teacher and know what is approprate and not.> Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be > joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old > child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I > am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child > you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but > actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean > a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If > the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. > The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the > enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this > really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the > members of this group?>I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them >before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned >for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my >attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social >servcies.It could be considered child abuse.>>>>Janie <jammin_janiej@...> wrote:>Just who the he** do you think you are? Threatening to report someone to >social services over conversation on the internet? Are you nuts or just >plain stupid? It seems to me as though most of the women on this site have >enough issues to deal with then throw a moron like yourself into the mix. >Unfreakenbelievable!>This woman is doing everything in her power to help her son then you come >along out of no where and threaten to contact social services because she >is giving her son an enema. GET A LIFE! Get over yourself.>>racesea <ladygracesea@...> wrote:>>It could be social services business! That may be child abuse!>>>>>>n , "anita kessler" <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:> > That would also be none of your business!!!!!!!!!> >> > 17 days until explant> > >> > >> > >> > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new> > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centered>and> > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot> > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an> > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If> > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life>back.> > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is> > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a> > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2> > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family> > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for> > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others>helping> > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for> > > help. J> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Oh so she doesn't give him enemas? They were joking? I am glad to hear that. Lynda <coss@...> wrote: No, that was not serious, this person is trying to cause problems.LyndaAt 02:07 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:>I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art >teacher and know what is approprate and not.> Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be > joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old > child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I > am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child > you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but > actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean > a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If > the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. > The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the > enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this > really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the > members of this group?>I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them >before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned >for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my >attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social >servcies.It could be considered child abuse.>>>>Janie <jammin_janiej@...> wrote:>Just who the he** do you think you are? Threatening to report someone to >social services over conversation on the internet? Are you nuts or just >plain stupid? It seems to me as though most of the women on this site have >enough issues to deal with then throw a moron like yourself into the mix. >Unfreakenbelievable!>This woman is doing everything in her power to help her son then you come >along out of no where and threaten to contact social services because she >is giving her son an enema. GET A LIFE! Get over yourself.>>racesea <ladygracesea@...> wrote:>>It could be social services business! That may be child abuse!>>>>>>n , "anita kessler" <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:> > That would also be none of your business!!!!!!!!!> >> > 17 days until explant> > >> > >> > >> > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new> > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centered>and> > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot> > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an> > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If> > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life>back.> > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is> > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a> > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2> > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family> > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for> > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others>helping> > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for> > > help. J> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Patty I am here to find out about implants and I will look over some of the pages you mentioned. I am glad to hear that she is apparently not giving this child enemas becasue that is inappropriate any way you look at it. I hope that her son will be ok. I admit I do not know anything about implants causing illness other than the old type of implants leaking I did hear of that. I am not sure if I will get them or not. I will be looking into this matter further. Thanks glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Hi ,First, I am glad you are researching implants before you get them, as there is much to know, and the dangers are rarely discussed fully.This group was started to help women get better once they have become ill from implants, so I hope you will be able to see how desperately ill some women have become. And not only the women, but even some of the children that have been born to them.There is a group for the women and their kids who have been harmed by breast implants (SiliconeKids), so perhaps this will be more fully discussed THERE, as that is the appropriate venue.However, I will defend Anita, as I know her, I know her heart, and I know that she has struggled with the illness of her son and received no help from mainstream medicine. If you are new to this group, then you couldn't know all the things that have gone on regarding the kinds of struggles that they have had to endure, nor the many forms of detoxification therapy that are used to get better.I can appreciate your concern....but before you make unfair judgements, you need to have FACTS. So, let me help you in that regard.Please research the use of Coffee Enemas in detoxification therapy.You will find much information, as this therapy has been used to cure cancers and other degenerative diseases through detoxification for decades. Dr. Max Gerson was the first medical professional to use this form of therapy in the 1930's and 1940's, and since then, scientific studies have proven how coffee works--through increased glutathione production and increased bile secretion, which assists the liver in this important task.Here are some links that I urge you to read:http://www.drlwilson.com/detox_protocols.htmhttp://www.sawilsons.com/liver.htmhttp://www.curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=31 & db=5 & C0=818http://www.ineedcoffee.com/01/01/enema/http://www.ralphmoss.com/coff.htmlhttp://www.annieappleseedproject.org/coffeeenemas.htmlhttp://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/tek9.asp?pg=coffeeOnce you've familiarized yourself with the concepts of detoxification and understood the extent of the illness and pain some of us have suffered with, you will come to realize that Anita is filled with compassion for her son, and is struggling to help him. What she is doing is way more loving than what any doctor has offered her in regards to the health of her son.I hope that helps you , and I hope you will be able to see that having breast implants and getting sick from them is no picnic...enemas are something I'd much rather live without, but the truth is that they helped me greatly, and have saved the lives of countless people with all kinds of illness.Patty> I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art teacher and know what is approprate and not.> Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the members of this group? > I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social servcies.It could be considered child abuse.Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I can tell you that implants are devastating to many women's health.I can tell you that they are also very bad for children born to women with implants. I have a son who is very ill. I finally figured out that my implants made me sick after suffering many years of illness and put it all together.I got them out two months ago and have seen improvement in my health although I am still ill. I feel 90% better some days, others are harder. This group has been supportive to me through my surgery and afterward. I think that a breast lift may be a good solution if your saggy like I was after explant, I had a lift and it looks really good. I love the way my new breast look and feel. Maybe you can see about a lift if that is why you want implants. If your just small trust me it is not worth it to have big breasts and risk your health. You sound like a smart woman so do not take this risk. Implants are just too risky. Not everyone gets sick but for those of us whom do, it is horrible what it does to us. I have been on disablity for years now. I had to have a face lift at only 45 years old because of the depression the implants gave me and the toll they took on my face. They aged me so much. I can not think of one good reason to get implants anymore. Please reconsider. Annie Patty I am here to find out about implants and I will look over some of the pages you mentioned. I am glad to hear that she is apparently not giving this child enemas becasue that is inappropriate any way you look at it. I hope that her son will be ok. I admit I do not know anything about implants causing illness other than the old type of implants leaking I did hear of that. I am not sure if I will get them or not. I will be looking into this matter further. Thanks glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Hi ,First, I am glad you are researching implants before you get them, as there is much to know, and the dangers are rarely discussed fully.This group was started to help women get better once they have become ill from implants, so I hope you will be able to see how desperately ill some women have become. And not only the women, but even some of the children that have been born to them.There is a group for the women and their kids who have been harmed by breast implants (SiliconeKids), so perhaps this will be more fully discussed THERE, as that is the appropriate venue.However, I will defend Anita, as I know her, I know her heart, and I know that she has struggled with the illness of her son and received no help from mainstream medicine. If you are new to this group, then you couldn't know all the things that have gone on regarding the kinds of struggles that they have had to endure, nor the many forms of detoxification therapy that are used to get better.I can appreciate your concern....but before you make unfair judgements, you need to have FACTS. So, let me help you in that regard.Please research the use of Coffee Enemas in detoxification therapy.You will find much information, as this therapy has been used to cure cancers and other degenerative diseases through detoxification for decades. Dr. Max Gerson was the first medical professional to use this form of therapy in the 1930's and 1940's, and since then, scientific studies have proven how coffee works--through increased glutathione production and increased bile secretion, which assists the liver in this important task.Here are some links that I urge you to read:http://www.drlwilson.com/detox_protocols.htmhttp://www.sawilsons.com/liver.htmhttp://www.curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=31 & db=5 & C0=818http://www.ineedcoffee.com/01/01/enema/http://www.ralphmoss.com/coff.htmlhttp://www.annieappleseedproject.org/coffeeenemas.htmlhttp://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/tek9.asp?pg=coffeeOnce you've familiarized yourself with the concepts of detoxification and understood the extent of the illness and pain some of us have suffered with, you will come to realize that Anita is filled with compassion for her son, and is struggling to help him. What she is doing is way more loving than what any doctor has offered her in regards to the health of her son.I hope that helps you , and I hope you will be able to see that having breast implants and getting sick from them is no picnic...enemas are something I'd much rather live without, but the truth is that they helped me greatly, and have saved the lives of countless people with all kinds of illness.Patty> I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art teacher and know what is approprate and not.> Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the members of this group? > I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social servcies.It could be considered child abuse.Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I know what Anita is dealing with. My son is sick too. I do not know what I would be doing right now if this medication was not working because that is the only thing that keeps him calm enough for me to work on getting better myself. Today I managed to walk 6 miles. I can not believe how nice the weather is here. 61 degrees today. Sunny. It was good to get out and feel the sun on my face. I hope that Anita gets to get some sunshine too. Annie I am sorry but Anita is a very good friend of mine and I have seen first hand the issues she has to deal with on a daily basis due to the toxicity of her son. I was quite offended that someone chose to pass judgment on these woman without all of the facts. I am sorry that you took offense to my postings but I felt the need to defend my best friend since she has more than enough issues to deal with.Lynda <coss@...> wrote: Please drop this unhelpful conversation.LyndaAt 02:34 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:>Let's start with, would you report someone to social services for what you >read on the internet? Don't you agree that FACTUAL information should be >reported, not what you read in a posting on the internet. Secondly, if you >had read prior postings, she stated the " she had her son doing" these >enemas, nowhere did she state that she was in fact doing them for him. And >as for the reasoning behind this treatment, again, I would like to suggest >that you read her previous posts.>And to accuse someone of "being too " because their childs >health is in question is just absurd.>> <gustavaslav99@...> wrote:>I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art >teacher and know what is approprate and not.> Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be > joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old > child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I > am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child > you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but > actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean > a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If > the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. > The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the > enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this > really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the > members of this group?>I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them >before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned >for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my >attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social >servcies.It could be considered child abuse.>>>>Janie <jammin_janiej@...> wrote:>Just who the he** do you think you are? Threatening to report someone to >social services over conversation on the internet? Are you nuts or just >plain stupid? It seems to me as though most of the women on this site have >enough issues to deal with then throw a moron like yourself into the mix. >Unfreakenbelievable!>This woman is doing everything in her power to help her son then you come >along out of no where and threaten to contact social services because she >is giving her son an enema. GET A LIFE! Get over yourself.>>racesea <ladygracesea@...> wrote:>>It could be social services business! That may be child abuse!>>>>>>n , "anita kessler" <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:> > That would also be none of your business!!!!!!!!!> >> > 17 days until explant> > >> > >> > >> > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new> > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centered>and> > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot> > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an> > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If> > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life>back.> > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is> > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a> > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2> > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family> > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for> > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others>helping> > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for> > > help. J> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 What does the degree matter for? I mean I do not have a college degree but I consider myself to be pretty smart without it. I do not think we need to be degree holders to make wise choices. I will say that we all made one dumb choice degree or not, getting implants. God that was a bad choice wasn't it?Annie Lynda,You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right?, we do have many professional women here, and I think you can be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements about what is going on.Patty> > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going into your> > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of making the> > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a decision> > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being safe.> > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth. Stay> > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita> > > >> > > > 17 days until explant> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new> > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centered> >and> > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot> > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an> > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If> > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life> >back.> > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is> > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a> > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2> > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family> > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for> > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others> >helping> > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for> > > > help. J> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I agree with you that is not what I would do either. I guess I never knew that Anita had a 14 year old son, or if I did I did not think about what she was doing or if he was getting enemas. I am sure he must do them himself if that is happening. I can see why that would probably concern someone though. When I first heard about the enemas I was pretty freaked out myself. I won't be doing any but if others find them to be helpful to them somehow I guess that is their business. When you belong to a group like this you are never going to be able to agree on things 100% but so far even when I disagree with something everyone has been real nice to me and they just are like me, live and let live. I happen to have some feelings about what works and what doesn't for my sickness and I take the ideas for this group and another one that I go to for implants and another one I go to for FMS and I just do the things I think work and leave the other stuff behind. If you knew the girls here you would know that they are all really nice even if we don't always agree on things. Take care and remember that implants are not worth the trouble. Annie I don't mean to cause any more contraversy here but I am a 7th grade art teacher and know what is approprate and not. Janie I seriously thought that this woman, this Ruthie woman had to be joking. Are you serious that someone is really giving their 14 year old child enemas? Is there some reason for this that is beyond me because I am having a hard time understanding this. If you have a constipated child you can do things like take a laxative or feed him some fiber but actually having a mother give a boy an enema at that age is wrong. I mean a 14 year old is a post pubescent child and has developed genitalia. If the kid is sick from something take him to the Dr. but this is serious. The posts from this woman were pretty disturbing but the one about the enemas is really disturbing. I assumed it to be some sick joke. Is this really something that is considered to be appropriate behavior by the members of this group? I came here to learn about implants and to find out all aspects of them before I decide to get them or not however, this topic has me concerned for the welfare of this child. As a teacher if this was brought to my attention with a student I would be obligated to report this to social servcies.It could be considered child abuse. Janie <jammin_janiej@...> wrote: Just who the he** do you think you are? Threatening to report someone to social services over conversation on the internet? Are you nuts or just plain stupid? It seems to me as though most of the women on this site have enough issues to deal with then throw a moron like yourself into the mix. Unfreakenbelievable! This woman is doing everything in her power to help her son then you come along out of no where and threaten to contact social services because she is giving her son an enema. GET A LIFE! Get over yourself. racesea <ladygracesea@...> wrote: It could be social services business! That may be child abuse!n , "anita kessler" <AnitaK001@m...> wrote:> That would also be none of your business!!!!!!!!!> > 17 days until explant> > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find new > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually centeredand > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I cannot > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill of an > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than before. If > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my lifeback. > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest airport is > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to be a > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 1/2 > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or family > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so responsible for > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine othershelping > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask for > > help. J> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Annie, I was merely pointing out to that if anyone wanted to report anyone to social services, we have a social service worker right here on the group, and one that has a degree to back it up. It didn't have anything to do with making wise choices or not. Patty > What does the degree matter for? I mean I do not have a college degree but I consider myself to be pretty smart without it. I do not think we need to be degree holders to make wise choices. I will say that we all made one dumb choice degree or not, getting implants. God that was a bad choice wasn't it? > Annie > > > Lynda, > You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's > Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right? > > , we do have many professional women here, and I think you can > be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements > about what is going on. > Patty > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Social worker with Master's Degree, Certificate in Early Childhood Education, Certified Drug/Alcohol Counselor. Many years experience. But human. like the rest of us, and sometimes I do make mistakes. Lynda At 02:39 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: >Lynda, >You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's >Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right? > >, we do have many professional women here, and I think you can >be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements >about what is going on. >Patty > > > > > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going >into your > > > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of >making the > > > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a >decision > > > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being >safe. > > > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth. >Stay > > > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita > > > > > > > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find >new > > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually >centered > > >and > > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I >cannot > > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill >of an > > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than >before. If > > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life > > >back. > > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest >airport is > > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to >be a > > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 >1/2 > > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or >family > > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so >responsible for > > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others > > >helping > > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask >for > > > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 This is getting off onto the wrong track. We are all here to SUPPORT each other and help educate those who need it. Lynda At 02:39 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: >Lynda, >You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's >Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right? > >, we do have many professional women here, and I think you can >be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements >about what is going on. >Patty > > > > > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going >into your > > > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of >making the > > > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a >decision > > > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being >safe. > > > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth. >Stay > > > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita > > > > > > > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find >new > > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually >centered > > >and > > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I >cannot > > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill >of an > > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than >before. If > > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life > > >back. > > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest >airport is > > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to >be a > > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 >1/2 > > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or >family > > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so >responsible for > > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others > > >helping > > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask >for > > > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I know. It is a sore spot for me. I mean I should have gotten a degree. I always wanted to go back to school but I got sick and never did. I am too old now and too tired. I am a really good secretary and know all about business. I just never got a degree in it. Of course after being on disibility for so long I will probably be finding out when I try to get a job now that without a degree the only thing I am qualified for is answering a phone or waitressing. I don't really care anymore, I just want off the disibility. I would take any job to get my pride back. Annie Annie,I was merely pointing out to that if anyone wanted to report anyone to social services, we have a social service worker right here on the group, and one that has a degree to back it up.It didn't have anything to do with making wise choices or not.Patty> What does the degree matter for? I mean I do not have a college degree but I consider myself to be pretty smart without it. I do not think we need to be degree holders to make wise choices. I will say that we all made one dumb choice degree or not, getting implants. God that was a bad choice wasn't it?> Annie> > > Lynda,> You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's > Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right?> > , we do have many professional women here, and I think you can > be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements > about what is going on.> Patty>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 You are right Lynda. We don't need any more than what we are already dealing with Especially senseless trouble makers. Love, Anita 17 days until explant> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find>new> > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually>centered> > >and> > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I>cannot> > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill>of an> > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than>before. If> > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life> > >back.> > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest>airport is> > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to>be a> > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1>1/2> > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or>family> > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so>responsible for> > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others> > >helping> > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask>for> > > > > help. J> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Lynda, You are absolutely correct. If fact that is why I come to this site, to support my friend. I am sorry this got so out of control but this person made senseless accusations. I find it very hard to control my anger when someone posts such nonsense and it is directed at my friends or family. I will continue to come to this site in an effort to understand what Anita is dealing with and what courses of action I can help her with to recover but I won't allow myself to be drawn into such nonsense. Thank youLynda <coss@...> wrote: This is getting off onto the wrong track. We are all here to SUPPORT each other and help educate those who need it.LyndaAt 02:39 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:>Lynda,>You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's>Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right?>>, we do have many professional women here, and I think you can>be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements>about what is going on.>Patty>>> > > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going>into your> > > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of>making the> > > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a>decision> > > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being>safe.> > > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth.>Stay> > > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita> > > > >> > > > > 17 days until explant> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find>new> > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually>centered> > >and> > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I>cannot> > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill>of an> > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than>before. If> > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life> > >back.> > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest>airport is> > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to>be a> > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1>1/2> > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or>family> > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so>responsible for> > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others> > >helping> > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask>for> > > > > help. J> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Very wise decision, we should all try to avoid being reactive, and try being proactive. It would solve many of the world's problems. Lynda At 03:55 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: >Lynda, >You are absolutely correct. If fact that is why I come to this site, to >support my friend. I am sorry this got so out of control but this >person made senseless accusations. I find it very hard to control my anger >when someone posts such nonsense and it is directed at my friends or >family. I will continue to come to this site in an effort to understand >what Anita is dealing with and what courses of action I can help her with >to recover but I won't allow myself to be drawn into such nonsense. >Thank you > >Lynda <coss@...> wrote: >This is getting off onto the wrong track. We are all here to SUPPORT each >other and help educate those who need it. > >Lynda > > >At 02:39 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: > > >Lynda, > >You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's > >Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right? > > > >, we do have many professional women here, and I think you can > >be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements > >about what is going on. > >Patty > > > > > > > > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going > >into your > > > > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of > >making the > > > > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a > >decision > > > > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being > >safe. > > > > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth. > >Stay > > > > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find > >new > > > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually > >centered > > > >and > > > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I > >cannot > > > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill > >of an > > > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than > >before. If > > > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life > > > >back. > > > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest > >airport is > > > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to > >be a > > > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 > >1/2 > > > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or > >family > > > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so > >responsible for > > > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others > > > >helping > > > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask > >for > > > > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Girls, Certain people have been trying to dish up information on us , our site to place complaints, that we are giving out dangerous information and medical advise for some time, therfore shitting us down. This was a plot for some time now. I believe,these same people are frustrated that these things werent specifically said or answered to them in thier quest of 5000 questions. And are now very frustated and making arguments. Ignore it. It is not going to work Love jUlie ulie>From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: To Janie and Patty? >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:39:16 -0700 > > >This is getting off onto the wrong track. We are all here to SUPPORT each >other and help educate those who need it. > >Lynda > > >At 02:39 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: > > >Lynda, > >You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's > >Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right? > > > >, we do have many professional women here, and I think you can > >be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements > >about what is going on. > >Patty > > > > > > > > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going > >into your > > > > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of > >making the > > > > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a > >decision > > > > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being > >safe. > > > > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth. > >Stay > > > > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find > >new > > > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually > >centered > > > >and > > > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I > >cannot > > > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill > >of an > > > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than > >before. If > > > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life > > > >back. > > > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest > >airport is > > > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to > >be a > > > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 > >1/2 > > > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or > >family > > > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so > >responsible for > > > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others > > > >helping > > > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask > >for > > > > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 And I didnt mean my spelling in my previous post to come out as- shitting us down, it was sopossed to be shutting us down! Sorry >From: "JOSEPH PALANCA" <juliejp61@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: To Janie and Patty? >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:33:25 +0000 > Girls, Certain people have been trying to dish up information on us , our site to place complaints, that we are giving out dangerous information and medical advise for some time, therfore shitting us down. This was a plot for some time now. I believe,these same people are frustrated that these things werent specifically said or answered to them in thier quest of 5000 questions. And are now very frustated and making arguments. Ignore it. It is not going to work Love jUlie ulie>From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: To Janie and Patty? >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:39:16 -0700 > > >This is getting off onto the wrong track. We are all here to SUPPORT each >other and help educate those who need it. > >Lynda > > >At 02:39 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: > > >Lynda, > >You forgot to say that you are a social worker! With a Master's > >Degree? And practiced for 30 years, isn't that right? > > > >, we do have many professional women here, and I think you can > >be assured that we are capable of making appropriate judgements > >about what is going on. > >Patty > > > > > > > > > > J, It sounds like you are in a good place mentally going > >into your > > > > > explant. Just don't beat yourself up with guilt because of > >making the > > > > > decision to get the implants in the first place. You made a > >decision > > > > > based on the propaganda that's out there about implants being > >safe. > > > > > None of us would have gotten them had we been told the truth. > >Stay > > > > > positive and focused on getting your life back. Love, Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 days until explant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the last month or so has sped by. Each day I find > >new > > > > > > affirmations that my decision to explant is spiritually > >centered > > > >and > > > > > > certain. I cannot remember how my natural breasts felt. I > >cannot > > > > > > remember how my natural breasts looked. And with the skill > >of an > > > > > > excellent surgeon, perhaps they will be prettier than > >before. If > > > > > > not, I can accept it. I want my health back. I want my life > > > >back. > > > > > > I'm a little scared about flying back home. The closest > >airport is > > > > > > 1 1/2 hrs. from my home. I'm thinking maybe I don't need to > >be a > > > > > > superwoman. Maybe I need to ask for help. I would drive 1 > >1/2 > > > > > > hrs. to help someone, and I'm sure there are some friends or > >family > > > > > > who would do the same for me. I'm just feeling so > >responsible for > > > > > > my own dilemma that it is difficult for me to imagine others > > > >helping > > > > > > me to and from the airport. I'll work on willingness to ask > >for > > > > > > help. J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Jullie . . . Funny, funny, funny . . . I never notice the spelling mistake . . . Freudian slip, perhaps! Love, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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