RE: my docs recommendations

[Guest guest]

Dawn, It sounds like you have found a doctor who knows his stuff. I have never heard of the HP IV's for candida. We will ALL be interested in knowing how well that one works Good Luck and keep us updated. Love, Anita my docs recommendations So, here I am battling this illness for three years, ready for the explant on 4/13/05. After I am free of these things I will begin the following as prescribed by my altenative MD. : Weekly I am to do hydrogen peroxide IV’s that also include glutathione ( for liver) and vitamin C. The oxygen is deadly to the candida and kills it on contact, glutathione will strengthen my liver for the heavy detox and the vitamin C is not only a chelator of heavy metals it also acts as an antifungal. As much aerobic exercise as I can handle without overdoing it… again the oxygen is key here. Too many supplements to list but the main antifungals I will be rotating are nystatin, caprylic acid, berberine, wild oregano. Plus twice daily I am to grind up flax seeds, mix with lecithin in a protein shake.. Gotta keep the bowels moving.. a must for carrying out dead materials from detox not to be reabsorbed by my body. Several times per week I am to do a mild liver flush which consists of olive oil, fresh lemon juice and cayenne. Also the liver pack to detox liver. I will probably start DMSA again… chelates heavy metals from body. Shockingly, my doc recommends that I rent an oxygen tank and use it for a half hour daily. This is a last resort for me.. that’s a little much but if I have to I will. He wants me to sit for a half hour with my feet in 10 parts water to 1 part hydrogen peroxide, says it will help carry oxygen into my cells. I know it all sounds Kooky, but no conventional MD has any answers for me so I am going to give it a go. Plus I have done many of these things already and they have definitely helped me even with the implants. Enemas are on the list but again this is a last resort since I really don’t want to have to do that. Dawn Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious to

hear how you do with the detox therapies your doctor

is recommending.

Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to keep

people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most

alternative therapies are a bargain (not to mention

low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy that

often fails to address the problem.

I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and the

doctors try to please.

Getting better after being so sick from implants isn't

easy. It takes real dedication and work.

Hugs,

Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

I did the Hydrogen Peroxide IV's. (There's probably not much I

haven't tried in the past 7 years!) Dr. Royal gave them to

me when I had first gone to him for a Vitamin C IV to help boost my

immune system. He suggested those in addition to my request,

actually, he didn't suggest them, he highly recommended them and

proceeded to do them straight away! He said it would help my energy

levels, which it did. I had been feeling lethargic still, (this was

back in 2002 or 2003 I think) and he said the H2O2 would help kill

off any pathogens and give me a boost of much needed oxygen. It was

at that time that we discovered I had Hashimoto's, too.

Dawn, it sounds like you have a great program outlined. I wish you

well with it! Be patient as your body takes time to heal. No magic

bullets anywhere in this thing. And yes, please keep our group

updated on your progress.

Just wanted to share my experience with those, and then I will

skiddaddle out of here for awhile.

Love you all!

Patty

> Dawn, It sounds like you have found a doctor who knows his

stuff. I have never heard of the HP IV's for candida. We will ALL

be interested in knowing how well that one works. Good Luck and

keep us updated. Love, Anita

[Guest guest]

Great Point Rogene……

Yes, yes, yes, yes, unbeknownst to the American public there is a conspiracy…

I believe it for sure. The drug manufacturers and the food industry literally

control the FDA and the media for sure. A great book to read is “Natural

cures they don’t want you to know about.” I can get the author’s

name if anyone is interested. In this book the author goes on to say how the

drug companies get a hold of us by continually creating new illnesses due to

the side effects of their drugs, etc. So then you have to take another drug for

the side effects. Also, the food industry in and of itself is a sham. I won’t

even sit here and gross you out with what they are putting in our food in

addition to antibiotics and growth hormones.

And as far as the natural treatments go…

they do work, and that is why at this the drug companies are lobbying to have

vitamins regulated by the FDA as prescription drugs. It’s all about money…

the cost of vitamins will skyrocket in addition to having to go to the doctor

to get them.

In particular these IV’s I speak of

are actually PROVEN to work, the evidence is suppressed however. One example

though, I don’t know if anyone is familiar with Pam having

Hepatitis C. Well the usual treatment for this is Interferon..

very very very intense side effects and it does not cure the disease.

Well to make a long story short, Pam was cured of Hep

C. through these IV’s I am told. There was also another Hollywood guy who was cured through the

alternative treatments.

It’s all about the money in this

country, that’s why with an 8 billion dollar per year industry ( I think that’s the #) such as breast implants, you

can see why we do not get treatment, you can see why we are told it is all in

our heads. Pisses me off. But, I feel that I am more

than one step ahead of this game armed with this knowledge. I have tons of

other books I can recommend, not just the one mentioned..

cause the author of that book kind of goes on a

tangent and the rhetoric gets to me sometimes.. although

I get his point.

Thanks Rogene

for the appreciation.. means a

lot.

Dawn

Re: my

docs recommendations

Dawn,

It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious

to

hear how you do with the detox therapies your

doctor

is recommending.

Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to

keep

people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most

alternative therapies are a bargain (not to

mention

low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy

that

often fails to address the problem.

I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and

the

doctors try to please.

Getting better after being so sick from implants

isn't

easy. It takes real dedication and work.

Hugs,

Rogene

>

Opinions

expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health

care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional

before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or

the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better

world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;

1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Right on Dawn. Here's a good one for you. Did you know that they just lowered the level at which cholesterol is considered to be too high from 200 to 180. I wonder how many billions of dollars that translates to for the drug companies. Perhaps they think we would all be better off to have no cholesterol! Anita RE: my docs recommendations Great Point Rogene…… Yes, yes, yes, yes, unbeknownst to the American public there is a conspiracy… I believe it for sure. The drug manufacturers and the food industry literally control the FDA and the media for sure. A great book to read is “Natural cures they don’t want you to know about.†I can get the author’s name if anyone is interested. In this book the author goes on to say how the drug companies get a hold of us by continually creating new illnesses due to the side effects of their drugs, etc. So then you have to take another drug for the side effects. Also, the food industry in and of itself is a sham. I won’t even sit here and gross you out with what they are putting in our food in addition to antibiotics and growth hormones. And as far as the natural treatments go… they do work, and that is why at this the drug companies are lobbying to have vitamins regulated by the FDA as prescription drugs. It’s all about money… the cost of vitamins will skyrocket in addition to having to go to the doctor to get them. In particular these IV’s I speak of are actually PROVEN to work, the evidence is suppressed however. One example though, I don’t know if anyone is familiar with Pam having Hepatitis C. Well the usual treatment for this is Interferon.. very very very intense side effects and it does not cure the disease. Well to make a long story short, Pam was cured of Hep C. through these IV’s I am told. There was also another Hollywood guy who was cured through the alternative treatments. It’s all about the money in this country, that’s why with an 8 billion dollar per year industry ( I think that’s the #) such as breast implants, you can see why we do not get treatment, you can see why we are told it is all in our heads. Pisses me off But, I feel that I am more than one step ahead of this game armed with this knowledge. I have tons of other books I can recommend, not just the one mentioned.. cause the author of that book kind of goes on a tangent and the rhetoric gets to me sometimes.. although I get his point. Thanks Rogene for the appreciation.. means a lot. Dawn -----Original Message-----From: Rogene S [mailto:saxony01@...] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:02 PM Subject: Re: my docs recommendations Dawn,It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious tohear how you do with the detox therapies your doctoris recommending.Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to keeppeople ill to benefit the drug companies???? Mostalternative therapies are a bargain (not to mentionlow risk) compared to coventional drug therapy thatoften fails to address the problem.I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and thedoctors try to please.Getting better after being so sick from implants isn'teasy. It takes real dedication and work.Hugs,Rogene> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

We have one member here who doesn't post often. Her

hubby worked for one of the big drug companies . . .

Their company newletter told how the goal of the drug

companies is to get people on drugs from birth to

grave! Sickening!

These people should rot in HELL!

Please keep sharing Dawn. We have new people here all

the time! Have you seen the archive section? . . . You

can add references with discussions of them any time

you'd like.

With much appreciation!

Rogene

[Guest guest]

It translates a lot of billions of dollars…

especially since there is credible evidence to suggest that cholesterol levels

aren’t even a factor in dying in heart attacks.. it’s

obviously a controversial issue ( sound familiar). and some may want to debate

on it, but I don’t want to because it is simply my own belief passed on

to me by my alternative MD., but yes, the drug companies are making tons. Just

as they are making tons on people who are under medicated on thyroid hormone

that have lingering effects of depression for one…. They are told by their docs that their

levels are fine and that they should see a psychiatrist, who in turn gives out

anti depressants. In addition to that the tests for thyroid are completely

misleading and unreliable. They call it the tyranny of the TSH…. Because if

you don’t fall into this man made box , you are

denied treatment. This is off the subject of implants, but really it is related

because it goes to show you how you cannot trust the system… there is just too much money to be made out there. Very sad.

Dawn

Re: my

docs recommendations

Right on Dawn. Here's a good

one for you. Did you know that they just lowered the level at which

cholesterol is considered to be too high from 200 to 180. I wonder how

many billions of dollars that translates to for the drug companies.

Perhaps they think we would all be better off to have no

cholesterol! Anita

Re: my

docs recommendations

Dawn,

It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious

to

hear how you do with the detox therapies your

doctor

is recommending.

Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to

keep

people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most

alternative therapies are a bargain (not to

mention

low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy

that

often fails to address the problem.

I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and

the

doctors try to please.

Getting better after being so sick from implants

isn't

easy. It takes real dedication and work.

Hugs,

Rogene

>

Opinions

expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health

care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional

before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or

the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better

world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;

1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

What IV's are you talking about? I have never heard

anything about a cure for hepatitis.

I think medication has a place and time. I needed

medication and took it and it had it's place in my

life but now I am off it and feel good.

I think that the public has to use some common sense

with medication too. We need to be responsible for

what we take and put in our body because no one else

is gonig to be.

I know that meds are not all bad but if you take a

medication without reading and learning about it then

I think that is irresponsible.

People need to learn as much as they can about this. I

wish I had the informatin available they have now

about implants I never of gotten them

Annie

--- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

> Great Point Rogene.. Yes, yes, yes, yes, unbeknownst

> to the American

> public there is a conspiracy. I believe it for sure.

> The drug

> manufacturers and the food industry literally

> control the FDA and the

> media for sure. A great book to read is " Natural

> cures they don't want

> you to know about. " I can get the author's name if

> anyone is interested.

> In this book the author goes on to say how the drug

> companies get a hold

> of us by continually creating new illnesses due to

> the side effects of

> their drugs, etc. So then you have to take another

> drug for the side

> effects. Also, the food industry in and of itself is

> a sham. I won't

> even sit here and gross you out with what they are

> putting in our food

> in addition to antibiotics and growth hormones.

>

> And as far as the natural treatments go. they do

> work, and that is why

> at this the drug companies are lobbying to have

> vitamins regulated by

> the FDA as prescription drugs. It's all about money.

> the cost of

> vitamins will skyrocket in addition to having to go

> to the doctor to get

> them.

>

> In particular these IV's I speak of are actually

> PROVEN to work, the

> evidence is suppressed however. One example though,

> I don't know if

> anyone is familiar with Pam having

> Hepatitis C. Well the usual

> treatment for this is Interferon.. very very very

> intense side effects

> and it does not cure the disease. Well to make a

> long story short, Pam

> was cured of Hep C. through these IV's I am told.

> There was also another

> Hollywood guy who was cured through the alternative

> treatments.

>

> It's all about the money in this country, that's why

> with an 8 billion

> dollar per year industry ( I think that's the #)

> such as breast

> implants, you can see why we do not get treatment,

> you can see why we

> are told it is all in our heads. Pisses me off. But,

> I feel that I am

> more than one step ahead of this game armed with

> this knowledge. I have

> tons of other books I can recommend, not just the

> one mentioned.. cause

> the author of that book kind of goes on a tangent

> and the rhetoric gets

> to me sometimes.. although I get his point.

>

> Thanks Rogene for the appreciation.. means a lot.

> Dawn

>

> Re: my docs recommendations

>

> Dawn,

>

> It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious to

> hear how you do with the detox therapies your doctor

> is recommending.

>

> Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to

> keep

> people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most

> alternative therapies are a bargain (not to mention

> low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy that

> often fails to address the problem.

>

> I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and the

> doctors try to please.

>

> Getting better after being so sick from implants

> isn't

> easy. It takes real dedication and work.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

> >

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead

> you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how

> to live a happy life and how to work for a better

> world. " - Linus

> ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Annie,

Sorry, don’t want to come off as a

total left winger here.. maybe

I did. I personally, just me personally, do not have very much confidence in

the “conventional” medical establishment anymore due to what I have

been through these past 3 years. Yes, there is certainly a place for

prescription medication. Prescription medication saves many lives every day.

And honestly, if it were not for the prescription thyroid medication I take as

a result of my implantation, I would not be functioning right now.

The IV’s are “intravenous

therapy”. This is an alternative treatment, not done by conventional

doctors. Trust me.. when I

first heard of the IV’s, I was like,

No way, this is way too kooky for me.. but

seeing how they have helped so many people and myself included, even with the

implants still in me, I am a believer. I am not forcing this information on

you, I hope it does not seem that way. In all things we hear, we take what we

can use and we leave behind what we cannot. The major point here is that information

is suppressed from the general public, my belief. I believe this also because

of the information that is suppressed about saline implants. And, Pamela Lee

is cured of hepatitis C… Unless I just totally have the wrong

information… anything is possible.

Dawn

Re: my docs

recommendations

>

> Dawn,

>

> It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm

anxious to

> hear how you do with the detox therapies your

doctor

> is recommending.

>

> Sometimes I wonder if there's not a

conspiracy to

> keep

> people ill to benefit the drug companies????

Most

> alternative therapies are a bargain (not to

mention

> low risk) compared to coventional drug

therapy that

> often fails to address the problem.

>

> I guess too many people want a fix-it pill,

and the

> doctors try to please.

>

> Getting better after being so sick from

implants

> isn't

> easy. It takes real dedication and work.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

> >

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

place

> of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult

your

> physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing

any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities

or the

> politicians mislead

> you. Find out what the facts are, and make

your own

> decisions about how

> to live a happy life and how to work for a

better

> world. " - Linus

> ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Correction.. for the record! I HEARD that Pam was cured…. I KNOW

for sure that she refused interferon and uses alternative treatment through a

homeopathic doctor. Ahhhhhh.

Dawn

Re: my docs

recommendations

>

> Dawn,

>

> It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm

anxious to

> hear how you do with the detox therapies your

doctor

> is recommending.

>

> Sometimes I wonder if there's not a

conspiracy to

> keep

> people ill to benefit the drug companies????

Most

> alternative therapies are a bargain (not to

mention

> low risk) compared to coventional drug

therapy that

> often fails to address the problem.

>

> I guess too many people want a fix-it pill,

and the

> doctors try to please.

>

> Getting better after being so sick from

implants

> isn't

> easy. It takes real dedication and work.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

> >

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

place

> of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult

your

> physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing

any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical

authorities or the

> politicians mislead

> you. Find out what the facts are, and make

your own

> decisions about how

> to live a happy life and how to work for a

better

> world. " - Linus

> ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dawn, You managed to say that in a much nicer fashion than I ever could have. Love, Anita Re: my docs recommendations> > Dawn,> > It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious to> hear how you do with the detox therapies your doctor> is recommending.> > Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to> keep> people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most> alternative therapies are a bargain (not to mention> low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy that> often fails to address the problem.> > I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and the> doctors try to please.> > Getting better after being so sick from implants> isn't> easy. It takes real dedication and work.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place> of advice given by> licensed health care professionals. Consult your> physician or licensed> health care professional before commencing any> medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the> politicians mislead> you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own> decisions about how> to live a happy life and how to work for a better> world." - Linus> ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >

[Guest guest]

Hiu,

Are you saying Pamela Anderon was cured with Hydrogen

peroxide IV's?? By the way how do they do this and

who does this--what kind of alternative doc?

GT

--- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

> Annie,

> Sorry, don't want to come off as a total left winger

> here.. maybe I did.

> I personally, just me personally, do not have very

> much confidence in

> the " conventional " medical establishment anymore due

> to what I have been

> through these past 3 years. Yes, there is certainly

> a place for

> prescription medication. Prescription medication

> saves many lives every

> day. And honestly, if it were not for the

> prescription thyroid

> medication I take as a result of my implantation, I

> would not be

> functioning right now.

>

> The IV's are " intravenous therapy " . This is an

> alternative treatment,

> not done by conventional doctors. Trust me.. when I

> first heard of the

> IV's, I was like, No way, this is way too kooky for

> me.. but seeing how

> they have helped so many people and myself included,

> even with the

> implants still in me, I am a believer. I am not

> forcing this information

> on you, I hope it does not seem that way. In all

> things we hear, we take

> what we can use and we leave behind what we cannot.

> The major point

> here is that information is suppressed from the

> general public, my

> belief. I believe this also because of the

> information that is

> suppressed about saline implants. And, Pamela Lee

> is cured of

> hepatitis C. Unless I just totally have the wrong

> information. anything

> is possible.

> Dawn

>

> Re: my docs

> recommendations

> >

> > Dawn,

> >

> > It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious

> to

> > hear how you do with the detox therapies your

> doctor

> > is recommending.

> >

> > Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to

> > keep

> > people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most

> > alternative therapies are a bargain (not to

> mention

> > low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy

> that

> > often fails to address the problem.

> >

> > I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and

> the

> > doctors try to please.

> >

> > Getting better after being so sick from implants

> > isn't

> > easy. It takes real dedication and work.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> > physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any

> > medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians mislead

> > you. Find out what the facts are, and make your

> own

> > decisions about how

> > to live a happy life and how to work for a better

> > world. " - Linus

> > ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I think Pam is getting mixed up with another

woman . . a country western singer from Tennessee. One

of the Judd's.

Rogene

--- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

> Correction.. for the record! I HEARD that Pam was

> cured.. I KNOW for

> sure that she refused interferon and uses

> alternative treatment through

> a homeopathic doctor. Ahhhhhh.

> Dawn

>

> Re: my docs

> recommendations

> >

> > Dawn,

> >

> > It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious

> to

> > hear how you do with the detox therapies your

> doctor

> > is recommending.

> >

> > Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to

> > keep

> > people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most

> > alternative therapies are a bargain (not to

> mention

> > low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy

> that

> > often fails to address the problem.

> >

> > I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and

> the

> > doctors try to please.

> >

> > Getting better after being so sick from implants

> > isn't

> > easy. It takes real dedication and work.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> > physician or licensed

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Both pam and The Judd lady have hepatitis in remission from natural medicines and detoxing.Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

I think Pam is getting mixed up with anotherwoman . . a country western singer from Tennessee. Oneof the Judd's.Rogene--- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:> Correction.. for the record! I HEARD that Pam was> cured.. I KNOW for> sure that she refused interferon and uses> alternative treatment through> a homeopathic doctor. Ahhhhhh.> Dawn> >

Re: my docs> recommendations> > > > Dawn,> > > > It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious> to> > hear how you do with the detox therapies your> doctor> > is recommending.> > > > Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to> > keep> > people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most> > alternative therapies are a bargain (not to> mention> > low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy> that> > often fails to address the problem.> > > > I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and> the> > doctors try to please.> > > > Getting better after being so sick from implants> > isn't> > easy. It takes real dedication and work.> > > > Hugs,> > > > Rogene> > >

> > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place> > of advice given by> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your> > physician or licensed> === message truncated ===Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

Welcome to the site and congratulations on your decision to explant!

Even though I still have my implants in, I'm taking many of the

homeopathics and herbs(minus the IV's) you speak of, hoping to

strengthen my body for surgery. I am reading the book Natural Cures

also, isn't it just appalling how our healthcare system along with

many others are " All about the money? " That's why the manufacturers

haven't spent the money to do long term studies on implants and the

plastic surgeon's won't admit that the implants are making some women

ill. The Ole' Mighty Dollar!

Good luck w/everything,

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

GT,

I don’t know the exact make up of

the IV’s Pam does, I can only assume. The ones I do are made of

hydrogen peroxide, glutathione and vitamin C… I think maybe magnesium

too. Actually my Doc does them made to order.. you can put anything in there.

The way this is done is with a little

butterfly needle in your arm. You sit there for about 1 and ½ hours.

The doctor I see deals with the most

chronically of ill patients, you’d never call this guy for the sniffles.

He is a licensed Medical Doctor but uses alternative treatments.  I am not sure where you could find other docs

who do the IV’s. They are certainly out there. I never sought after this

guy for the IV’s, I actually went to him after reading an article he

wrote and seeing how open minded he was and how he did not have the “GOD

complex” so many docs have.

Dawn

Re: my docs

> recommendations

> >

> > Dawn,

> >

> > It's great to have you join us! . . .

I'm anxious

> to

> > hear how you do with the detox therapies

your

> doctor

> > is recommending.

> >

> > Sometimes I wonder if there's not a

conspiracy to

> > keep

> > people ill to benefit the drug

companies???? Most

> > alternative therapies are a bargain (not

to

> mention

> > low risk) compared to coventional drug

therapy

> that

> > often fails to address the problem.

> >

> > I guess too many people want a fix-it

pill, and

> the

> > doctors try to please.

> >

> > Getting better after being so sick from

implants

> > isn't

> > easy. It takes real dedication and work.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take

the place

> > of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals.

Consult your

> > physician or licensed

> > health care professional before

commencing any

> > medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical

authorities or the

> > politicians mislead

> > you. Find out what the facts are, and

make your

> own

> > decisions about how

> > to live a happy life and how to work for

a better

> > world. " - Linus

> > ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

Right the ole mighty dollar. Sad that we are just guinea pigs.

I am taking the supplements also in order

to strengthen my immune system for surgery. I am going to hold off on the IV’s

till after the surgery because at this point it is a waste of money due to the

fact that I will remain toxic with the implants.

Dawn

Re: my

docs recommendations

Dawn,

Welcome to the site and congratulations on your

decision to explant!

Even though I still have my implants in, I'm

taking many of the

homeopathics and herbs(minus the IV's) you speak

of, hoping to

strengthen my body for surgery. I am reading the

book Natural Cures

also, isn't it just appalling how our healthcare

system along with

many others are " All about the

money? " That's why the manufacturers

haven't spent the money to do long term studies on

implants and the

plastic surgeon's won't admit that the implants

are making some women

ill. The Ole' Mighty Dollar!

Good luck w/everything,

Cheryl

Opinions

expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health

care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional

before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or

the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better

world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry;

1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Dawn . . .

You've found a gem of a doctor! . . . Sometimes God

leads us in mysterious ways!

It makes me wonder why more M.D.s aren't practicing

this kind of medicine! If he can help the most

chronically ill . . . Why can't the other doctors

prevent us from getting there?

Hugs,

Rogene

--- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

> GT,

> I don’t know the exact make up of the IV’s Pam

> does, I can only

> assume. The ones I do are made of hydrogen peroxide,

> glutathione and

> vitamin C… I think maybe magnesium too. Actually my

> Doc does them made

> to order.. you can put anything in there.

>

> The way this is done is with a little butterfly

> needle in your arm. You

> sit there for about 1 and ½ hours.

>

> The doctor I see deals with the most chronically of

> ill patients, you’d

> never call this guy for the sniffles. He is a

> licensed Medical Doctor

> but uses alternative treatments. I am not sure

> where you could find

> other docs who do the IV’s. They are certainly out

> there. I never sought

> after this guy for the IV’s, I actually went to him

> after reading an

> article he wrote and seeing how open minded he was

> and how he did not

> have the “GOD complex” so many docs have.

>

> Dawn

>

> RE: my docs

> recommendations

> >

> > What IV's are you talking about? I have never

> heard

> > anything about a cure for hepatitis.

> > I think medication has a place and time. I needed

> > medication and took it and it had it's place in my

> > life but now I am off it and feel good.

> > I think that the public has to use some common

> sense

> > with medication too. We need to be responsible for

> > what we take and put in our body because no one

> else

> > is gonig to be.

> > I know that meds are not all bad but if you take a

> > medication without reading and learning about it

> > then

> > I think that is irresponsible.

> > People need to learn as much as they can about

> this.

> > I

> > wish I had the informatin available they have now

> > about implants I never of gotten them

> > Annie

> > --- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > > Great Point Rogene.. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

> > unbeknownst

> > > to the American

> > > public there is a conspiracy. I believe it for

> > sure.

> > > The drug

> > > manufacturers and the food industry literally

> > > control the FDA and the

> > > media for sure. A great book to read is " Natural

> > > cures they don't want

> > > you to know about. " I can get the author's name

> if

> > > anyone is interested.

> > > In this book the author goes on to say how the

> > drug

> > > companies get a hold

> > > of us by continually creating new illnesses due

> to

> > > the side effects of

> > > their drugs, etc. So then you have to take

> another

> > > drug for the side

> > > effects. Also, the food industry in and of

> itself

> > is

> > > a sham. I won't

> > > even sit here and gross you out with what they

> are

> > > putting in our food

> > > in addition to antibiotics and growth hormones.

> > >

> > > And as far as the natural treatments go. they do

> > > work, and that is why

> > > at this the drug companies are lobbying to have

> > > vitamins regulated by

> > > the FDA as prescription drugs. It's all about

> > money.

> > > the cost of

> > > vitamins will skyrocket in addition to having to

> > go

> > > to the doctor to get

> > > them.

> > >

> > > In particular these IV's I speak of are actually

> > > PROVEN to work, the

> > > evidence is suppressed however. One example

> > though,

> > > I don't know if

> > > anyone is familiar with Pam having

> > > Hepatitis C. Well the usual

> > > treatment for this is Interferon.. very very

> very

> > > intense side effects

> > > and it does not cure the disease. Well to make a

> > > long story short, Pam

> > > was cured of Hep C. through these IV's I am

> told.

> > > There was also another

> > > Hollywood guy who was cured through the

> > alternative

> > > treatments.

> > >

> > > It's all about the money in this country, that's

> > why

> > > with an 8 billion

> > > dollar per year industry ( I think that's the #)

> > > such as breast

> > > implants, you can see why we do not get

> treatment,

>

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[Guest guest]

How do the Dr's make money off of us? I only pay them

a small co pay, so I am just wondering is it the way

they bill our insurance or what it is that they are

doing to rip us off?

I def was a guinea pig, but then I should have been

smart enough to see that. I just assumed when they

said implants last for ever they were telling the

truth. Now they have all these consents and symptoms

that the book tells women about. I think that at least

there is more information today then when I got my

silicone gel implants. I know that there was nothing

that I signed for implants, just about anesthesia I

think. I don't remember that well anymore to be

honest.

Annie

--- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

> Cheryl,

> Right the ole mighty dollar. Sad that we are just

> guinea pigs.

>

> I am taking the supplements also in order to

> strengthen my immune

> system for surgery. I am going to hold off on the

> IV's till after the

> surgery because at this point it is a waste of money

> due to the fact

> that I will remain toxic with the implants.

> Dawn

>

> Re: my docs recommendations

>

>

> Dawn,

> Welcome to the site and congratulations on your

> decision to explant!

> Even though I still have my implants in, I'm taking

> many of the

> homeopathics and herbs(minus the IV's) you speak of,

> hoping to

> strengthen my body for surgery. I am reading the

> book Natural Cures

> also, isn't it just appalling how our healthcare

> system along with

> many others are " All about the money? " That's why

> the manufacturers

> haven't spent the money to do long term studies on

> implants and the

> plastic surgeon's won't admit that the implants are

> making some women

> ill. The Ole' Mighty Dollar!

> Good luck w/everything,

> Cheryl

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead

> you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how

> to live a happy life and how to work for a better

> world. " - Linus

> ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

No no dear you don't come off as a left winger, I just

am careful and skeptical after what was done to me

with implants. I have to be honest I don't trust any

of these Dr's very much anymore, the real ones and the

homeo ones to me they are all about the same, so far

at least the ones I know of they all want the big $$$

to even have you step foot in their doors! I really

think I am just going to use the Dr if an when I need

a test or medication and try to do as much for myself

as I can.

With my son it is different of course. He has to go to

the Dr. he is on medication and right now I don't

think I can take him off it.

I jsut think these IV's and things all sound a little

scary but you girls can do whatever you feel safe

with.

To me natural is not always much better than the other

sutff. I hear you can get sick off the natrual stuff

too!

I dont' want anything if I can just get better with

eating healthy food and trying sweat and drinking lots

of clean pure water.

If I dont' get better after all this then I might be

forced to try other means, right now I am doing good

enough that I think I will be able to do some kind of

job soon. Part time maybe but anythign to get off the

disability.

Well time for my walk.

talk to you all later.

Annie

--- Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

> Annie,

> Sorry, don't want to come off as a total left winger

> here.. maybe I did.

> I personally, just me personally, do not have very

> much confidence in

> the " conventional " medical establishment anymore due

> to what I have been

> through these past 3 years. Yes, there is certainly

> a place for

> prescription medication. Prescription medication

> saves many lives every

> day. And honestly, if it were not for the

> prescription thyroid

> medication I take as a result of my implantation, I

> would not be

> functioning right now.

>

> The IV's are " intravenous therapy " . This is an

> alternative treatment,

> not done by conventional doctors. Trust me.. when I

> first heard of the

> IV's, I was like, No way, this is way too kooky for

> me.. but seeing how

> they have helped so many people and myself included,

> even with the

> implants still in me, I am a believer. I am not

> forcing this information

> on you, I hope it does not seem that way. In all

> things we hear, we take

> what we can use and we leave behind what we cannot.

> The major point

> here is that information is suppressed from the

> general public, my

> belief. I believe this also because of the

> information that is

> suppressed about saline implants. And, Pamela Lee

> is cured of

> hepatitis C. Unless I just totally have the wrong

> information. anything

> is possible.

> Dawn

>

> Re: my docs

> recommendations

> >

> > Dawn,

> >

> > It's great to have you join us! . . . I'm anxious

> to

> > hear how you do with the detox therapies your

> doctor

> > is recommending.

> >

> > Sometimes I wonder if there's not a conspiracy to

> > keep

> > people ill to benefit the drug companies???? Most

> > alternative therapies are a bargain (not to

> mention

> > low risk) compared to coventional drug therapy

> that

> > often fails to address the problem.

> >

> > I guess too many people want a fix-it pill, and

> the

> > doctors try to please.

> >

> > Getting better after being so sick from implants

> > isn't

> > easy. It takes real dedication and work.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> > physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any

> > medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians mislead

> > you. Find out what the facts are, and make your

> own

> > decisions about how

> > to live a happy life and how to work for a better

> > world. " - Linus

> > ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Have not bought a house yet but will soon. I do not

even know the areas yet. Do you know of a good

alternate doc??

GT

--- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>

> Hey GT,

> Please look me up when you get to Vegas! You've

> already got several

> friends here from this group, so I am sure we will

> be able to get

> together and help you any way we can.

> Just let me know when you get here. Do you know what

> part of town

> you are going to live in?

>

> Patty

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Great Point Rogene.. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

> > > > unbeknownst

> > > > > to the American

> > > > > public there is a conspiracy. I believe it

> for

> > > > sure.

> > > > > The drug

>

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