Re: One more thought,,,

[Guest guest]

, please see my other post...

By the way, my son's pediatrician recommended enemas for my (then) 8

year old son, who was having terrible bowel movement problems. I

got him started, and we only had to do it a couple of times, but

even at that age, he wanted to " do it himself. " I have no doubt

that Anita's son is fully capable of giving himself an enema...she

is not physically doing it...just preparing it. Like I said, she is

a wonderful, sacrificial mother who cares deeply about her son, to

the point of neglecting herself to make sure he gets the care he

needs. I respect Anita very much. I think you've gotten the wrong

idea....please be sure to read over the links that I sent regarding

the coffee enema. Those were by no means comprehensive.

Patty

> Ladies,

> I wanted to add some strong comments about the selfishness and

inconsiderate ugliness of these disruptors (and we know who they

probably are) to do this to the ill women here. We really need to

learn to blow them off, because it is incredibly stressful to

continue reading those kind of posts.

>

> We know from past experience that this kind of disruption can send

women into flares, which is a serious thing. I don't take that

lightly at all. It is very serious! Obviously these people have no

concern for the welfare of other people, though they claim to want

to " help " them. If they truly wished to help, they would find more

loving and compassionate ways to do so. Unfortunately they can't

get past their selfishness to learn them. But, that is why they

didn't fit in with us here.

>

> For all of you dear women and friends of mine, I hope that you

will be able to put aside these posts this morning, and focus on the

good things in life, the things that bring smiles to your faces, and

comforting peace to your soul. I hope that each of you have found

what works for you to bring calmness into your day, whether it be a

walk out in the beautiful sunshine, sitting down to read the Bible

or your favorite book, praying, meditating, laughing with your kids,

cuddling with your loved one or a cuddly pet, listening to uplifting

music and singing your heart out....whatever it is that brings you

joy. Forget the things that bring bad feelings and emotions. Brush

it off into the garbage and let it go! For life can be filled with

beautiful things no matter what situation we are in. For it is in

that place that we can become filled and renewed, and have peace in

knowing that we are loved.

>

> I care for all of you! I may be gone from this group most of the

time, but I do still communicate with Ilena and a few others...I am

not gone for good! My prayers are for your healing and the

restoration of your health, just like I have experienced it. Be

encouraged and stay hopeful...and don't waste precious energy on

people who don't offer compassionate help.

> Love,

> Patty

>

[Guest guest]

Really you had a pediatrician tell you to give your son enemas? I never would be able to do that to my son! I know he would not sit still for that.

I am glad that he doesn't have any problems going to the bathroom anyhow.

Annie

, please see my other post...By the way, my son's pediatrician recommended enemas for my (then) 8 year old son, who was having terrible bowel movement problems. I got him started, and we only had to do it a couple of times, but even at that age, he wanted to "do it himself." I have no doubt that Anita's son is fully capable of giving himself an enema...she is not physically doing it...just preparing it. Like I said, she is a wonderful, sacrificial mother who cares deeply about her son, to the point of neglecting herself to make sure he gets the care he needs. I respect Anita very much. I think you've gotten the wrong idea....please be sure to read over the links that I sent regarding the coffee enema. Those were by no means comprehensive.Patty> Ladies,> I wanted to add some strong comments about the selfishness and inconsiderate ugliness of these disruptors (and we know who they probably are) to do this to the ill women here. We really need to learn to blow them off, because it is incredibly stressful to continue reading those kind of posts.> > We know from

past experience that this kind of disruption can send women into flares, which is a serious thing. I don't take that lightly at all. It is very serious! Obviously these people have no concern for the welfare of other people, though they claim to want to "help" them. If they truly wished to help, they would find more loving and compassionate ways to do so. Unfortunately they can't get past their selfishness to learn them. But, that is why they didn't fit in with us here.> > For all of you dear women and friends of mine, I hope that you will be able to put aside these posts this morning, and focus on the good things in life, the things that bring smiles to your faces, and comforting peace to your soul. I hope that each of you have found what works for you to bring calmness into your day, whether it be a walk out in the beautiful sunshine, sitting down to read the Bible

or your favorite book, praying, meditating, laughing with your kids, cuddling with your loved one or a cuddly pet, listening to uplifting music and singing your heart out....whatever it is that brings you joy. Forget the things that bring bad feelings and emotions. Brush it off into the garbage and let it go! For life can be filled with beautiful things no matter what situation we are in. For it is in that place that we can become filled and renewed, and have peace in knowing that we are loved.> > I care for all of you! I may be gone from this group most of the time, but I do still communicate with Ilena and a few others...I am not gone for good! My prayers are for your healing and the restoration of your health, just like I have experienced it. Be encouraged and stay hopeful...and don't waste precious energy on people who don't offer compassionate help.>

Love,> Patty >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Patty. . . There's no one else who

can say it so well.

Love,

Rogene

--- Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> Ladies,

> I wanted to add some strong comments about the

> selfishness and inconsiderate ugliness of these

> disruptors (and we know who they probably are) to do

> this to the ill women here. We really need to learn

> to blow them off, because it is incredibly stressful

> to continue reading those kind of posts.

>

>snip

[Guest guest]

Thanks Patty

I will attest to this much - last year there were some very stressful issues in this group that upset me terribly. I have done nothing but try to help and console people here and this set me off into a terrible flare... I felt horrible for days with all the stress.

I know what this is now and I will not let a few weird posts get me down and I encourage all of other new women here to do the same. We stand for a serious issue and for that we will ALWAYS have enemies here on the group coming in and out trying to stir things up. I would take these messages for what they are - nobody should come in here new and be slamming others in a hurtful way.... these people, whoever they are, have obviously been around a while. Everyone has their own opinion and all of us are trying to heal in different ways... Some will take longer - it depends on the person and the amount of silicone and toxins that were released into the body. Everyone is different - some things are good for some but may be harmful to others... Take all suggestions here and make sure that you pick what is right for you and go at your own pace. I was horribly sick for a long time - I never got better and actually got worse after explanting for a while until I started getting the toxins out of my body recently. I have felt almost normal lately which is something I hardly remember.... I came into this group and didn't do all the things mentioned here and have paid the price. I am glad I found "my truth" and am on the road to recovery.

Please don't let these disturbances get you down - there are a lot of us here that will still remain to help when others are gone.

shari

[Guest guest]

AS a group as whole, we have never told a single woman, to do an enema on their child or themselves. If the women choose to do so, they have every right. It is not something to discuss or condemn.It is a personal choice. Besides, we hardly ever talk about it, unless you bring it up.We mainly heal on eating organic good foods, less refined junk foods, drinking lots of water, taking natural supplemtns, and so forth.

>From: Annie <annie200548@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: One more thought,,, >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:10 -0800 (PST) > >Really you had a pediatrician tell you to give your son enemas? I never would be able to do that to my son! I know he would not sit still for that. >I am glad that he doesn't have any problems going to the bathroom anyhow. >Annie > > > >, please see my other post... > >By the way, my son's pediatrician recommended enemas for my (then) 8 >year old son, who was having terrible bowel movement problems. I >got him started, and we only had to do it a couple of times, but >even at that age, he wanted to "do it himself." I have no doubt >that Anita's son is fully capable of giving himself an enema...she >is not physically doing it...just preparing it. Like I said, she is >a wonderful, sacrificial mother who cares deeply about her son, to >the point of neglecting herself to make sure he gets the care he >needs. I respect Anita very much. I think you've gotten the wrong >idea....please be sure to read over the links that I sent regarding >the coffee enema. Those were by no means comprehensive. >Patty > > > > Ladies, > > I wanted to add some strong comments about the selfishness and >inconsiderate ugliness of these disruptors (and we know who they >probably are) to do this to the ill women here. We really need to >learn to blow them off, because it is incredibly stressful to >continue reading those kind of posts. > > > > We know from past experience that this kind of disruption can send >women into flares, which is a serious thing. I don't take that >lightly at all. It is very serious! Obviously these people have no >concern for the welfare of other people, though they claim to want >to "help" them. If they truly wished to help, they would find more >loving and compassionate ways to do so. Unfortunately they can't >get past their selfishness to learn them. But, that is why they >didn't fit in with us here. > > > > For all of you dear women and friends of mine, I hope that you >will be able to put aside these posts this morning, and focus on the >good things in life, the things that bring smiles to your faces, and >comforting peace to your soul. I hope that each of you have found >what works for you to bring calmness into your day, whether it be a >walk out in the beautiful sunshine, sitting down to read the Bible >or your favorite book, praying, meditating, laughing with your kids, >cuddling with your loved one or a cuddly pet, listening to uplifting >music and singing your heart out....whatever it is that brings you >joy. Forget the things that bring bad feelings and emotions. Brush >it off into the garbage and let it go! For life can be filled with >beautiful things no matter what situation we are in. For it is in >that place that we can become filled and renewed, and have peace in >knowing that we are loved. > > > > I care for all of you! I may be gone from this group most of the >time, but I do still communicate with Ilena and a few others...I am >not gone for good! My prayers are for your healing and the >restoration of your health, just like I have experienced it. Be >encouraged and stay hopeful...and don't waste precious energy on >people who don't offer compassionate help. > > Love, > > Patty > > > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >

[Guest guest]

I don't agree with all the things on this site, but I

try to hang around for the support and information I

do agree with. Do we all have to agree on this to be

a part of this site? I hope not. I would think that we

can still be here and not all be in to doing enemas

and fasts. Those two things do not appeal to me, and

beside that I am very thin and don't think those would

be good for me, I take what I like and leave the rest

behind. I hope that just because I ask questions about

things that is not somehow going to make someone angry

with me?

I feel we all have the right to ask questions or else

how can we learn? That is just what intelligent adult

do. I mean if there is something I don't know about I

will ask questions. I like to learn and think that is

important to my recovery.

I also think that I have an important story to share

here so I do hope that I am ok in sharing my

experience too. It may be different from your's but

that should be a good thing!

Take care

Annie

--- JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

AS a group as whole, we have never told a single

woman, to do an enema on their child or themselves. If

the women choose to do so, they have every right. It

is not something to discuss or condemn.It is a

personal choice. Besides, we hardly ever talk about

it, unless you bring it up.We mainly heal on eating

organic good foods, less refined junk foods, drinking

lots of water, taking natural supplemtns, and so

forth.

>From: Annie <annie200548@...> >Reply-To:

>To:

>Subject: Re:

Re: One more thought,,, >Date: Mon, 14

Mar 2005 14:24:10 -0800 (PST) > >Really you had a

pediatrician tell you to give your son enemas? I never

would be able to do that to my son! I know he would

not sit still for that. >I am glad that he doesn't

have any problems going to the bathroom anyhow. >Annie

> > > >, please see my other post... > >By the

way, my son's pediatrician recommended enemas for my

(then) 8 >year old son, who was having terrible bowel

movement problems. I >got him started, and we only had

to do it a couple of times, but >even at that age, he

wanted to " do it himself. " I have no doubt >that

Anita's son is fully capable of giving himself an

enema...she >is not physically doing it...just

preparing it. Like I said, she is >a wonderful,

sacrificial mother who cares deeply about her son, to

>the point of neglecting herself to make sure he gets

the care he >needs. I respect Anita very much. I think

you've gotten the wrong >idea....please be sure to

read over the links that I sent regarding >the coffee

enema. Those were by no means comprehensive. >Patty >

> > > Ladies,

> > I wanted to add some strong comments about the

selfishness and >inconsiderate ugliness of these

disruptors (and we know who they >probably are) to do

this to the ill women here. We really need to >learn

to blow them off, because it is incredibly stressful

to >continue reading those kind of posts. > > > > We

know from past experience that this kind of disruption

can send >women into flares, which is a serious thing.

I don't take that >lightly at all. It is very serious!

Obviously these people have no >concern for the

welfare of other people, though they claim to want >to

" help " them. If they truly wished to help, they would

find more >loving and compassionate ways to do so.

Unfortunately they can't >get past their selfishness

to learn them. But, that is why they >didn't fit in

with us here. > > > > For all of you dear women and

friends of mine, I hope that you >will be able to put

aside these posts this morning, and focus on the >good

things in life, the things that bring smiles to your

faces, and >comforting peace to your soul. I hope that

each of you have found >what works for you to bring

calmness into your day, whether it be a >walk out in

the beautiful sunshine, sitting down to read the Bible

>or your favorite book, praying, meditating, laughing

with your kids, >cuddling with your loved one or a

cuddly pet, listening to uplifting >music and singing

your heart out....whatever it is that brings you >joy.

Forget the things that bring bad feelings and

emotions. Brush >it off into the garbage and let it

go! For life can be filled with >beautiful things no

matter what situation we are in. For it is in >that

place that we can become filled and renewed, and have

peace in >knowing that we are loved. > > > > I care

for all of you! I may be gone from this group most of

the >time, but I do still communicate with Ilena and a

few others...I am >not gone for good! My prayers are

for your healing and the >restoration of your health,

just like I have experienced it. Be >encouraged and

stay hopeful...and don't waste precious energy on

>people who don't offer compassionate help. > > Love,

> > Patty > > > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT

meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing

any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the

medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to

work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, you have a right to your opinion, but not condeming others for doing things that they also have a right to is wrong.(Such as Anita's son situation) Keep it kind thats all we ask.

>From: Annie <annie200548@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: One more thought,,, >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:58:43 -0800 (PST) > > >I don't agree with all the things on this site, but I >try to hang around for the support and information I >do agree with. Do we all have to agree on this to be >a part of this site? I hope not. I would think that we >can still be here and not all be in to doing enemas >and fasts. Those two things do not appeal to me, and >beside that I am very thin and don't think those would >be good for me, I take what I like and leave the rest >behind. I hope that just because I ask questions about >things that is not somehow going to make someone angry >with me? >I feel we all have the right to ask questions or else >how can we learn? That is just what intelligent adult >do. I mean if there is something I don't know about I >will ask questions. I like to learn and think that is >important to my recovery. >I also think that I have an important story to share >here so I do hope that I am ok in sharing my >experience too. It may be different from your's but >that should be a good thing! >Take care >Annie >--- JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote: > > >--------------------------------- > >AS a group as whole, we have never told a single >woman, to do an enema on their child or themselves. If >the women choose to do so, they have every right. It >is not something to discuss or condemn.It is a >personal choice. Besides, we hardly ever talk about >it, unless you bring it up.We mainly heal on eating >organic good foods, less refined junk foods, drinking >lots of water, taking natural supplemtns, and so >forth. > > > > > >From: Annie <annie200548@...> >Reply-> >> >Subject: Re: > Re: One more thought,,, >Date: Mon, 14 >Mar 2005 14:24:10 -0800 (PST) > >Really you had a >pediatrician tell you to give your son enemas? I never >would be able to do that to my son! I know he would >not sit still for that. >I am glad that he doesn't >have any problems going to the bathroom anyhow. >Annie > > > > >, please see my other post... > >By the >way, my son's pediatrician recommended enemas for my >(then) 8 >year old son, who was having terrible bowel >movement problems. I >got him started, and we only had >to do it a couple of times, but >even at that age, he >wanted to "do it himself." I have no doubt >that >Anita's son is fully capable of giving himself an >enema...she >is not physically doing it...just >preparing it. Like I said, she is >a wonderful, >sacrificial mother who cares deeply about her son, to > >the point of neglecting herself to make sure he gets >the care he >needs. I respect Anita very much. I think >you've gotten the wrong >idea....please be sure to >read over the links that I sent regarding >the coffee >enema. Those were by no means comprehensive. >Patty > > > > > Ladies, > > > I wanted to add some strong comments about the >selfishness and >inconsiderate ugliness of these >disruptors (and we know who they >probably are) to do >this to the ill women here. We really need to >learn >to blow them off, because it is incredibly stressful >to >continue reading those kind of posts. > > > > We >know from past experience that this kind of disruption >can send >women into flares, which is a serious thing. >I don't take that >lightly at all. It is very serious! >Obviously these people have no >concern for the >welfare of other people, though they claim to want >to >"help" them. If they truly wished to help, they would >find more >loving and compassionate ways to do so. >Unfortunately they can't >get past their selfishness >to learn them. But, that is why they >didn't fit in >with us here. > > > > For all of you dear women and >friends of mine, I hope that you >will be able to put >aside these posts this morning, and focus on the >good >things in life, the things that bring smiles to your >faces, and >comforting peace to your soul. I hope that >each of you have found >what works for you to bring >calmness into your day, whether it be a >walk out in >the beautiful sunshine, sitting down to read the Bible > >or your favorite book, praying, meditating, laughing >with your kids, >cuddling with your loved one or a >cuddly pet, listening to uplifting >music and singing >your heart out....whatever it is that brings you >joy. >Forget the things that bring bad feelings and >emotions. Brush >it off into the garbage and let it >go! For life can be filled with >beautiful things no >matter what situation we are in. For it is in >that >place that we can become filled and renewed, and have >peace in >knowing that we are loved. > > > > I care >for all of you! I may be gone from this group most of >the >time, but I do still communicate with Ilena and a >few others...I am >not gone for good! My prayers are >for your healing and the >restoration of your health, >just like I have experienced it. Be >encouraged and >stay hopeful...and don't waste precious energy on > >people who don't offer compassionate help. > > Love, > > > Patty > > > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT >meant to take the place of advice given by licensed >health care professionals. Consult your physician or >licensed health care professional before commencing >any medical treatment. > >"Do not let either the >medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. >Find out what the facts are, and make your own >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to >work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time >Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > >