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Annie,

I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .

because that's the impression you left me with.

We always recommend that people exercise . . . but

that's not always possible. It's good that you're

finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if

I remember, you've only recently been explanted,

weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do

with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I

sincerely hope you do really well.

Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were

to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done

for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they

mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not

a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.

I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,

extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her

from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair

damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having

breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of

problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where

they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!

Exercise doesn't do it all!

Looking back when I first became involved in the

implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who

scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now

than ever, never having recovered to the point that

life became good again. On the other hand, those of us

who took the plunge are living normal lives.

There was one member of this group who left to form

her own group because she was opposed to using

alternative health measures. Maybe you would be

happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It

sounds like you and would be soul mates.

Hugs,

Rogene

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Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people. That is not

what this group is about.

I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not say

anything at all.

Lynda

At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

>Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a good

>lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her and seen

>her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone else. She

>looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is going to

>make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I

>have heard that she is

>Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a coffee

>enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving the next

>day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a source that

>was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but lets

>just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone else. She

>is human like everyone else ROGENE!

>Annie and the others should know the truth.

>Ruthie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> > Annie,

> >

> > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .

> > because that's the impression you left me with.

> >

> > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but

> > that's not always possible. It's good that you're

> > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if

> > I remember, you'

>

>ve only recently been explanted,

> > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do

> > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I

> > sincerely hope you do really well.

> >

> > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were

> > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done

> > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they

> > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not

> > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.

> >

> > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,

> > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her

> > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair

> > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having

> > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of

> > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where

> > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!

> > Exercise doesn't do it all!

> >

> > Looking back when I first became involved in the

> > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who

> > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now

> > than ever, never having recovered to the point that

> > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us

> > who took the plunge are living normal lives.

> >

> > There was one member of this group who left to form

> > her own group because she was opposed to using

> > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be

> > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It

> > sounds like you and would be soul mates.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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Ruthie..

So, what is the truth? I’m new here

and would like to know the truth.

Dawn

Re: Annie

Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been

treated better than

I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied

to and when I found

the truth I was surprised and angry that I was

lied to this site needs

to be honest with everyone.

My friends tol me the truth

, Lynda

<coss@p...> wrote:

> Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and

insulting people. That is not

> what this group is about.

>

> I remember hearing that if you cannot say

something nice, do not say

> anything at all.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Rogene what you say about Patty here is

not true. She is a good

> >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no

23. I have met her and seen

> >her face up close and she has some lines

just like everyone else. She

> >looks good but she looks her age. To say

that detoxing is going to

> >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin

the truth there girlfriend. I

> >have heard that she is

> >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash

diet starvation and a coffee

> >enema the next day. Eating cake at night

and then starving the next

> >day is very bad for you and I hear she

does this from a source that

> >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin

to be mean here but lets

> >just tell it like it really is. She is no

better than anyone else. She

> >is human like everyone else ROGENE!

> >Annie and the others should know the

truth.

> >Ruthie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >-- In ,

Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> > > Annie,

> > >

> > > I hope you don't think I was

attacking you . . .

> > > because that's the impression you

left me with.

> > >

> > > We always recommend that people

exercise . . . but

> > > that's not always possible. It's

good that you're

> > > finding the answers you need in

exercise. However, if

> > > I remember, you'

> >

> >ve only recently been explanted,

> > > weren't you? . . . Only time will

tell how well you do

> > > with nutrition and exercise as your

core program. I

> > > sincerely hope you do really well.

> > >

> > > Some of us need more than just

exercise. If you were

> > > to see Patty, you would know what

detoxing has done

> > > for her. . . When she's with her 23

year old son, they

> > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . .

.. Not a line, not

> > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful

person, inside and out.

> > >

> > > I do have friends who exercise to,

what I consider,

> > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that

hasn't kept her

> > > from bypass surgery, plus

additional surgery to repair

> > > damage caused by the surgery. . .

She's still having

> > > breathing problems. Her husband has

his own set of

> > > problems. Even then, they go on

biking trips where

> > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day.

Same with hiking!

> > > Exercise doesn't do it all!

> > >

> > > Looking back when I first became

involved in the

> > > implant issue, the women who I met,

at that time, who

> > > scorned all alternative health

measures are sicker now

> > > than ever, never having recovered

to the point that

> > > life became good again. On the

other hand, those of us

> > > who took the plunge are living

normal lives.

> > >

> > > There was one member of this group

who left to form

> > > her own group because she was

opposed to using

> > > alternative health measures. Maybe

you would be

> > > happier in their group . . . Breast

Implant Facts. It

> > > sounds like you and would be

soul mates.

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take

the place of advice given by

> >licensed health care professionals.

Consult your physician or licensed

> >health care professional before

commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities

or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make

your own decisions about how

to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better

world. " - Linus ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Are we trying to start trouble, because we will ban you from the list very

quickly if you are.

Lynda

At 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

>Ruthie..

>So, what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the truth.

>Dawn

>

> Re: Annie

>

>

>Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better than

>I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I found

>the truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site needs

>to be honest with everyone.

>My friends tol me the truth

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people. That is not

> > what this group is about.

> >

> > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not say

> > anything at all.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> >

> > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a good

> > >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her and seen

> > >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone else. She

> > >looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is going to

> > >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I

> > >have heard that she is

> > >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a coffee

> > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving the next

> > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a source that

> > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but lets

> > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone else. She

> > >is human like everyone else ROGENE!

> > >Annie and the others should know the truth.

> > >Ruthie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> > > > Annie,

> > > >

> > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .

> > > > because that's the impression you left me with.

> > > >

> > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but

> > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're

> > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if

> > > > I remember, you'

> > >

> > >ve only recently been explanted,

> > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do

> > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I

> > > > sincerely hope you do really well.

> > > >

> > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were

> > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done

> > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they

> > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not

> > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.

> > > >

> > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,

> > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her

> > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair

> > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having

> > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of

> > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where

> > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!

> > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!

> > > >

> > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the

> > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who

> > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now

> > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that

> > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us

> > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.

> > > >

> > > > There was one member of this group who left to form

> > > > her own group because she was opposed to using

> > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be

> > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It

> > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs,

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you.

> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

>to live

> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

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Lynda..

Are you talking to me.. Dawn or Ruthie. Dah. I am confused. I

obviously should have kept quiet. oops, sorry.

Dawn-

-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> Are we trying to start trouble, because we will ban you from the

list very

> quickly if you are.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> >Ruthie..

> >So, what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the

truth.

> >Dawn

> >

> > Re: Annie

> >

> >

> >Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better

than

> >I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I

found

> >the truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site

needs

> >to be honest with everyone.

> >My friends tol me the truth

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people.

That is not

> > > what this group is about.

> > >

> > > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do

not say

> > > anything at all.

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> > >

> > > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a

good

> > > >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her

and seen

> > > >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone

else. She

> > > >looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is

going to

> > > >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there

girlfriend. I

> > > >have heard that she is

> > > >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a

coffee

> > > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving

the next

> > > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a

source that

> > > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but

lets

> > > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone

else. She

> > > >is human like everyone else ROGENE!

> > > >Annie and the others should know the truth.

> > > >Ruthie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> > > > > Annie,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .

> > > > > because that's the impression you left me with.

> > > > >

> > > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but

> > > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're

> > > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if

> > > > > I remember, you'

> > > >

> > > >ve only recently been explanted,

> > > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do

> > > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I

> > > > > sincerely hope you do really well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were

> > > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done

> > > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they

> > > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not

> > > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,

> > > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her

> > > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair

> > > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having

> > > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of

> > > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where

> > > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!

> > > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!

> > > > >

> > > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the

> > > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who

> > > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now

> > > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that

> > > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us

> > > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was one member of this group who left to form

> > > > > her own group because she was opposed to using

> > > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be

> > > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It

> > > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > > >health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you.

> > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about how

> >to live

> > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

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I am curious as to what is going on too. I don't post here but I read and I am wondering about these posts too?Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

Are we trying to start trouble, because we will ban you from the list very quickly if you are.LyndaAt 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:>Ruthie..>So, what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the truth.>Dawn>> Re: Annie>>>Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better than>I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I found>the truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site needs>to be honest with everyone.>My friends tol me the

truth>>>>>>>> , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:> > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people. That is not> > what this group is about.> >> > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not say> > anything at all.> >> > Lynda> >> >> > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:> >> > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a good> > >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her and seen> > >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone else. She> > >looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is going to> > >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I> > >have heard that she is>

> >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a coffee> > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving the next> > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a source that> > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but lets> > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone else. She> > >is human like everyone else ROGENE!> > >Annie and the others should know the truth.> > >Ruthie> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:> > > > Annie,> > > >> > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .> > > > because that's the impression you

left me with.> > > >> > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but> > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're> > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if> > > > I remember, you'> > >> > >ve only recently been explanted,> > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do> > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I> > > > sincerely hope you do really well.> > > >> > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were> > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done> > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they> > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not> > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.> >

> >> > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,> > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her> > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair> > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having> > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of> > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where> > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!> > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!> > > >> > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the> > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who> > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now> > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that> > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of

us> > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.> > > >> > > > There was one member of this group who left to form> > > > her own group because she was opposed to using> > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be> > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It> > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.> > > >> > > > Hugs,> > > >> > > > Rogene> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > >> > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians>mislead you.> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how>to live> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing,> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > >> > >

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Hi Dawn are you new too? I Have not posted but have been reading. I can not possibly read all these emails however, I have over 2400 in my in box but I am confused too.

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Lynda..Are you talking to me.. Dawn or Ruthie. Dah. I am confused. I obviously should have kept quiet. oops, sorry.Dawn> > > > > Annie,> > > > >> > > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .> > > > > because that's the impression you left me with.> > > > >> > > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but> > > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're> > > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if> > > > > I remember, you'> > > >> > > >ve only recently been explanted,> > > > > weren't you? . . .

Only time will tell how well you do> > > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I> > > > > sincerely hope you do really well.> > > > >> > > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were> > > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done> > > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they> > > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not> > > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.> > > > >> > > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,> > > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her> > > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair> > > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having> > > > >

breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of> > > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where> > > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!> > > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!> > > > >> > > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the> > > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who> > > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now> > > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that> > > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us> > > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.> > > > >> > > > > There was one member of this group who left to form> > > > > her own group because she was opposed to using> > > > > alternative

health measures. Maybe you would be> > > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It> > > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.> > > > >> > > > > Hugs,> > > > >> > > > > Rogene> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> > > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > > >> > > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians> >mislead you.> > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how> >to live> > > >a happy

life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing,> > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > >> > > >

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I am kind of new and have not been keeping up. What are the rules here? Should we be aware of something?Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

Are we trying to start trouble, because we will ban you from the list very quickly if you are.LyndaAt 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:>Ruthie..>So, what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the truth.>Dawn>> Re: Annie>>>Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better than>I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I found>the truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site needs>to be honest with everyone.>My friends tol me the

truth>>>>>>>> , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:> > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people. That is not> > what this group is about.> >> > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not say> > anything at all.> >> > Lynda> >> >> > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:> >> > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a good> > >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her and seen> > >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone else. She> > >looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is going to> > >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I> > >have heard that she is>

> >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a coffee> > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving the next> > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a source that> > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but lets> > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone else. She> > >is human like everyone else ROGENE!> > >Annie and the others should know the truth.> > >Ruthie> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:> > > > Annie,> > > >> > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .> > > > because that's the impression you

left me with.> > > >> > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but> > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're> > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if> > > > I remember, you'> > >> > >ve only recently been explanted,> > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do> > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I> > > > sincerely hope you do really well.> > > >> > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were> > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done> > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they> > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not> > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.> >

> >> > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,> > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her> > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair> > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having> > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of> > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where> > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!> > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!> > > >> > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the> > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who> > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now> > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that> > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of

us> > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.> > > >> > > > There was one member of this group who left to form> > > > her own group because she was opposed to using> > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be> > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It> > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.> > > >> > > > Hugs,> > > >> > > > Rogene> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > >> > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians>mislead you.> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how>to live> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing,> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > >> > >

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I want to know the truth too. Is this the truth about implants we are talking about here?Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

Ruthie..

So, what is the truth? I’m new here and would like to know the truth.

Dawn

-----Original Message-----From: ladygracesea [mailto:ladygracesea@...] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Annie

Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better thanI wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I foundthe truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site needsto be honest with everyone.My friends tol me the truth , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:> Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people. That is not > what this group is about.> > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not say > anything at all.> > Lynda> > > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:> > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a good> >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her and seen> >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone else. She> >looks good but she looks her

age. To say that detoxing is going to> >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I> >have heard that she is> >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a coffee> >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving the next> >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a source that> >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but lets> >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone else. She> >is human like everyone else ROGENE!> >Annie and

the others should know the truth.> >Ruthie> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:> > > Annie,> > >> > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .> >

> because that's the impression you left me with.> > >> > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but> > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're> > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if> > > I remember, you'> >> >ve only recently been explanted,> > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do> > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I> > > sincerely hope you do really

well.> > >> > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were> > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done> > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they> > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not> > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.> > >> > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,> > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her> > > from bypass surgery, plus

additional surgery to repair> > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having> > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of> > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where> > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!> > > Exercise doesn't do it all!> > >> > > Looking back when I first became involved in the> > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who> > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now> > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that> > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us> > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.> > >> > > There was one member of this group who left to form> > > her own group because she was opposed to using> > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be> > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It> > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.> > >> > > Hugs,> > >> > > Rogene> >> >> >> >> >> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> >> >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politiciansmislead you. > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about howto live > >a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >> >

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what’s going on with these strange posts… regarding agenda, the truth. I

don’t know. All I know is I am sick, so sick. This is very distressing

and depressing to hear what’s going on here. Are you sick too?

Dawn

Re: Annie

> >

> >

> >Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I

had been treated better

than

> >I wouldn't have resentment like this! I

was lied to and when I

found

> >the truth I was surprised and angry that

I was lied to this site

needs

> >to be honest with everyone.

> >My friends tol me the truth

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Lynda

<coss@p...> wrote:

> > > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be

knocking and insulting people.

That is not

> > > what this group is about.

> > >

> > > I remember hearing that if you

cannot say something nice, do

not say

> > > anything at all.

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> > >

> > > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005,

you wrote:

> > >

> > > >Rogene what you say about Patty

here is not true. She is a

good

> > > >lookin woman but she ain't

passin for no 23. I have met her

and seen

> > > >her face up close and she has

some lines just like everyone

else. She

> > > >looks good but she looks her

age. To say that detoxing is

going to

> > > >make a 45 year old look 23 is

strechin the truth there

girlfriend. I

> > > >have heard that she is

> > > >Eatin at buffetts and then doin

a crash diet starvation and a

coffee

> > > >enema the next day. Eating cake

at night and then starving

the next

> > > >day is very bad for you and I

hear she does this from a

source that

> > > >was once very close to her. I

ain't tryin to be mean here but

lets

> > > >just tell it like it really is.

She is no better than anyone

else. She

> > > >is human like everyone else

ROGENE!

> > > >Annie and the others should

know the truth.

> > > >Ruthie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >-- In

, Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> > > > > Annie,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you don't think I

was attacking you . . .

> > > > > because that's the

impression you left me with.

> > > > >

> > > > > We always recommend that

people exercise . . . but

> > > > > that's not always

possible. It's good that you're

> > > > > finding the answers you

need in exercise. However, if

> > > > > I remember, you'

> > > >

> > > >ve only recently been

explanted,

> > > > > weren't you? . . . Only

time will tell how well you do

> > > > > with nutrition and

exercise as your core program. I

> > > > > sincerely hope you do

really well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of us need more than

just exercise. If you were

> > > > > to see Patty, you would

know what detoxing has done

> > > > > for her. . . When she's

with her 23 year old son, they

> > > > > mistake her for his

girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not

> > > > > a wrinkle. She's a

beautiful person, inside and out.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do have friends who

exercise to, what I consider,

> > > > > extremes . . .

Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her

> > > > > from bypass surgery, plus

additional surgery to repair

> > > > > damage caused by the

surgery. . . She's still having

> > > > > breathing problems. Her

husband has his own set of

> > > > > problems. Even then, they

go on biking trips where

> > > > > they bike for 25-30 miles

per day. Same with hiking!

> > > > > Exercise doesn't do it

all!

> > > > >

> > > > > Looking back when I first

became involved in the

> > > > > implant issue, the women

who I met, at that time, who

> > > > > scorned all alternative

health measures are sicker now

> > > > > than ever, never having

recovered to the point that

> > > > > life became good again.

On the other hand, those of us

> > > > > who took the plunge are

living normal lives.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was one member of

this group who left to form

> > > > > her own group because she

was opposed to using

> > > > > alternative health

measures. Maybe you would be

> > > > > happier in their group .

.. . Breast Implant Facts. It

> > > > > sounds like you and

would be soul mates.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT

meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > > >licensed health care

professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > > >health care professional before

commencing any medical

treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the

medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you.

> > > >Find out what the facts are,

and make your own decisions

about how

> >to live

> > > >a happy life and how to work

for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >For Healing Therapies and Detox

info, and to view Testimonies

of

> >Victims,

> > > >and Studies of harm by

implants, go to:

> > >

> >

><< /files/>http://groups.y

ahoo.

> >

com/group/ /files/>SalineSu

pport/files/

> > > >

> > > >To view links to related

websites on breast implants, go to:

> > >

> >

><< /links>http://groups.ya

hoo.c

> >

om/group/ /links>SalineSupp

ort/links

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Dawn. I am sorry that your sick. I actually signed up for this group when doing some research about breast implants. I am not sick. Just trying to learn.Dawn Aldredge <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

Yes, I am new here. I don’t know what’s going on with these strange posts… regarding agenda, the truth. I don’t know. All I know is I am sick, so sick. This is very distressing and depressing to hear what’s going on here. Are you sick too?

Dawn

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:gustavaslav99@...] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Re: Annie

Hi Dawn are you new too? I Have not posted but have been reading. I can not possibly read all these emails however, I have over 2400 in my in box but I am confused too.

daldre <dawn.aldredge@...> wrote:

Lynda..Are you talking to me.. Dawn or Ruthie. Dah. I am confused. I obviously should have kept quiet. oops, sorry.Dawn> > > > > Annie,> > > > >> > > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .> > > > > because that's the impression you left me with.> > > > >> > > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but> > > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're> > > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if>

> > > > I remember, you'> > > >> > > >ve only recently been explanted,> > > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do> > > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I> > > > > sincerely hope you do really well.> > > > >> > > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were> > > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done> > > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son,

they> > > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not> > > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.> > > > >> > > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,> > > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her> > > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair> > > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having> > > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of> > > > >

problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where> > > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!> > > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!> > > > >> > > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the> > > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who> > > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now> > > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that> > > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us>

> > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.> > > > >> > > > > There was one member of this group who left to form> > > > > her own group because she was opposed to using> > > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be> > > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It> > > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.> > > > >> > > > > Hugs,> > > > >> >

> > > Rogene> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> > > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > > >> > >

>"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians> >mislead you.> > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how> >to live> > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing,> > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > >> > > >

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Dawn,

There are trouble-makers who periodically come to this site and try to

create problems, sorry you got caught up in it. The truth is that they do

not know the truth, and create whatever truth works for them at the moment.

Lynda

At 12:13 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

>Lynda..

>Are you talking to me.. Dawn or Ruthie. Dah. I am confused. I

>obviously should have kept quiet. oops, sorry.

>Dawn-

>

>-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > Are we trying to start trouble, because we will ban you from the

>list very

> > quickly if you are.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> > At 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> > >Ruthie..

> > >So, what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the

>truth.

> > >Dawn

> > >

> > > Re: Annie

> > >

> > >

> > >Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better

>than

> > >I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I

>found

> > >the truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site

>needs

> > >to be honest with everyone.

> > >My friends tol me the truth

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > > > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people.

>That is not

> > > > what this group is about.

> > > >

> > > > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do

>not say

> > > > anything at all.

> > > >

> > > > Lynda

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a

>good

> > > > >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her

>and seen

> > > > >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone

>else. She

> > > > >looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is

>going to

> > > > >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there

>girlfriend. I

> > > > >have heard that she is

> > > > >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a

>coffee

> > > > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving

>the next

> > > > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a

>source that

> > > > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but

>lets

> > > > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone

>else. She

> > > > >is human like everyone else ROGENE!

> > > > >Annie and the others should know the truth.

> > > > >Ruthie

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

>wrote:

> > > > > > Annie,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .

> > > > > > because that's the impression you left me with.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but

> > > > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're

> > > > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if

> > > > > > I remember, you'

> > > > >

> > > > >ve only recently been explanted,

> > > > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do

> > > > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I

> > > > > > sincerely hope you do really well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were

> > > > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done

> > > > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they

> > > > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not

> > > > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,

> > > > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her

> > > > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair

> > > > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having

> > > > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of

> > > > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where

> > > > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!

> > > > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the

> > > > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who

> > > > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now

> > > > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that

> > > > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us

> > > > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was one member of this group who left to form

> > > > > > her own group because she was opposed to using

> > > > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be

> > > > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It

> > > > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hugs,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rogene

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>given by

> > > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed

> > > > >health care professional before commencing any medical

>treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > >mislead you.

> > > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

>about how

> > >to live

> > > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>ing,

> > > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Just be aware that there are some who will go to great lengths to stir up

turmoil, and we try to stop it before it gets out of hand.

Lynda

At 12:22 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> I am kind of new and have not been keeping up. What are the rules

>here? Should we be aware of something?

>

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>Are we trying to start trouble, because we will ban you from the list very

>quickly if you are.

>

>Lynda

>

>

>At 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> >Ruthie..

> >So, what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the truth.

> >Dawn

> >

> > Re: Annie

> >

> >

> >Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better than

> >I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I found

> >the truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site needs

> >to be honest with everyone.

> >My friends tol me the truth

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> > > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people. That is not

> > > what this group is about.

> > >

> > > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not say

> > > anything at all.

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> > >

> > > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a good

> > > >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her and seen

> > > >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone else. She

> > > >looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is going to

> > > >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I

> > > >have heard that she is

> > > >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a coffee

> > > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving the next

> > > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a source that

> > > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but lets

> > > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone else. She

> > > >is human like everyone else ROGENE!

> > > >Annie and the others should know the truth.

> > > >Ruthie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> > > > > Annie,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . .

> > > > > because that's the impression you left me with.

> > > > >

> > > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but

> > > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're

> > > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if

> > > > > I remember, you'

> > > >

> > > >ve only recently been explanted,

> > > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do

> > > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I

> > > > > sincerely hope you do really well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were

> > > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done

> > > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they

> > > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not

> > > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider,

> > > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her

> > > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair

> > > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having

> > > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of

> > > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where

> > > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking!

> > > > > Exercise doesn't do it all!

> > > > >

> > > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the

> > > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who

> > > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now

> > > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that

> > > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us

> > > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was one member of this group who left to form

> > > > > her own group because she was opposed to using

> > > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be

> > > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It

> > > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you.

> > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

> >to live

> > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

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>From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: RE: Re: Annie >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:04:48 -0700 > > >Are we trying to start trouble, because we will ban you from the list very >quickly if you are. > >Lynda > > >At 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote: > >Ruthie.. > >So, what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the truth. > >Dawn > > > > Re: Annie > > > > > >Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been treated better than > >I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied to and when I found > >the truth I was surprised and angry that I was lied to this site needs > >to be honest with everyone. > >My friends tol me the truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote: > > > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and insulting people. That is not > > > what this group is about. > > > > > > I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not say > > > anything at all. > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > At 10:45 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > >Rogene what you say about Patty here is not true. She is a good > > > >lookin woman but she ain't passin for no 23. I have met her and seen > > > >her face up close and she has some lines just like everyone else. She > > > >looks good but she looks her age. To say that detoxing is going to > > > >make a 45 year old look 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I > > > >have heard that she is > > > >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a coffee > > > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving the next > > > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a source that > > > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean here but lets > > > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better than anyone else. She > > > >is human like everyone else ROGENE! > > > >Annie and the others should know the truth. > > > >Ruthie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote: > > > > > Annie, > > > > > > > > > > I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . . > > > > > because that's the impression you left me with. > > > > > > > > > > We always recommend that people exercise . . . but > > > > > that's not always possible. It's good that you're > > > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if > > > > > I remember, you' > > > > > > > >ve only recently been explanted, > > > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do > > > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I > > > > > sincerely hope you do really well. > > > > > > > > > > Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were > > > > > to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done > > > > > for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they > > > > > mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not > > > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out. > > > > > > > > > > I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider, > > > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her > > > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair > > > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having > > > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of > > > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where > > > > > they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking! > > > > > Exercise doesn't do it all! > > > > > > > > > > Looking back when I first became involved in the > > > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who > > > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now > > > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point that > > > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of us > > > > > who took the plunge are living normal lives. > > > > > > > > > > There was one member of this group who left to form > > > > > her own group because she was opposed to using > > > > > alternative health measures. Maybe you would be > > > > > happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It > > > > > sounds like you and would be soul mates. > > > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by > > > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > > > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > > > > > > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > >mislead you. > > > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how > >to live > > > >a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, > > > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > > > > >

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Rogene, I wanted to add my experince on this. I exercised everyday for years, and it wasnt until I stopped and reverted to plain simple walking and rebounding, that I started to lose weight and get better. Mercolas office specifically told me to stop for a while ,and let the bodfy have reserved energy stores for healing, not using up all my energy on strenous workouts. I have gotten better and finally saw the weight starting to melt off, doing less. I think it was aggravating too much cortisol and hampering me from getting well.

ALso, if it hurts, dont so it. We are sick and to push harder, is only non sense. Love you, jUlie

>From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > < > >Subject: Annie >Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:14:45 -0800 (PST) > > >Annie, > >I hope you don't think I was attacking you . . . >because that's the impression you left me with. > >We always recommend that people exercise . . . but >that's not always possible. It's good that you're >finding the answers you need in exercise. However, if >I remember, you've only recently been explanted, >weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you do >with nutrition and exercise as your core program. I >sincerely hope you do really well. > >Some of us need more than just exercise. If you were >to see Patty, you would know what detoxing has done >for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old son, they >mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a line, not >a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside and out. > >I do have friends who exercise to, what I consider, >extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept her >from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to repair >damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still having >breathing problems. Her husband has his own set of >problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where >they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking! >Exercise doesn't do it all! > >Looking back when I first became involved in the >implant issue, the women who I met, at that time, who >scorned all alternative health measures are sicker now >than ever, never having recovered to the point that >life became good again. On the other hand, those of us >who took the plunge are living normal lives. > >There was one member of this group who left to form >her own group because she was opposed to using >alternative health measures. Maybe you would be >happier in their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It >sounds like you and would be soul mates. > >Hugs, > >Rogene > > > >

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Yep, they show themselves fairly quickly.

Lynda

At 08:28 AM 3/17/2005, you wrote:

>Lynda, sorry to say, some of our old " friends " return. I knew it all

>along

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply-To:

> >To:

> >Subject: RE: Re:

> Annie >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:04:48 -0700 > > >Are we trying to start

> trouble, because we will ban you from the list very >quickly if you

> are. > >Lynda > > >At 11:58 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote: > >Ruthie.. > >So,

> what is the truth? I'm new here and would like to know the

> truth. > >Dawn > > > > Re:

> Annie > > > > > >Lynda your right ya all got a point, if I had been

> treated better than > >I wouldn't have resentment like this! I was lied

> to and when I found > >the truth I was surprised and angry that I was

> lied to this site needs > >to be honest with everyone. > >My friends tol

> me the

> truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lynda

> <coss@p...> wrote: > > > Whoa, Ruthie. Let's not be knocking and

> insulting people. That is not > > > what this group is about. > > > > > >

> I remember hearing that if you cannot say something nice, do not

> say > > > anything at all. > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > At 10:45

> AM 3/14/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > >Rogene what you say about Patty

> here is not true. She is a good > > > >lookin woman but she ain't passin

> for no 23. I have met her and seen > > > >her face up close and she has

> some lines just like everyone else. She > > > >looks good but she looks

> her age. To say that detoxing is going to > > > >make a 45 year old look

> 23 is strechin the truth there girlfriend. I > > > >have heard that she

> is > > > >Eatin at buffetts and then doin a crash diet starvation and a

> coffee > > > >enema the next day. Eating cake at night and then starving

> the next > > > >day is very bad for you and I hear she does this from a

> source that > > > >was once very close to her. I ain't tryin to be mean

> here but lets > > > >just tell it like it really is. She is no better

> than anyone else. She > > > >is human like everyone else

> ROGENE! > > > >Annie and the others should know the

> truth. > > > >Ruthie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- In , Rogene S

> <saxony01@y...> wrote: > > > > > Annie, > > > > > > > > > > I hope you

> don't think I was attacking you . . . > > > > > because that's the

> impression you left me with. > > > > > > > > > > We always recommend that

> people exercise . . . but > > > > > that's not always possible. It's good

> that you're > > > > > finding the answers you need in exercise. However,

> if > > > > > I remember, you' > > > > > > > >ve only recently been

> explanted, > > > > > weren't you? . . . Only time will tell how well you

> do > > > > > with nutrition and exercise as your core program.

> I > > > > > sincerely hope you do really well. > > > > > > > > > > Some

> of us need more than just exercise. If you were > > > > > to see Patty,

> you would know what detoxing has done > > > > > for her. . . When she's

> with her 23 year old son, they > > > > > mistake her for his girlfriend!

> . . . Not a line, not > > > > > a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person,

> inside and out. > > > > > > > > > > I do have friends who exercise to,

> what I consider, > > > > > extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't kept

> her > > > > > from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery to

> repair > > > > > damage caused by the surgery. . . She's still

> having > > > > > breathing problems. Her husband has his own set

> of > > > > > problems. Even then, they go on biking trips where > > > > >

> they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same with hiking! > > > > > Exercise

> doesn't do it all! > > > > > > > > > > Looking back when I first became

> involved in the > > > > > implant issue, the women who I met, at that

> time, who > > > > > scorned all alternative health measures are sicker

> now > > > > > than ever, never having recovered to the point

> that > > > > > life became good again. On the other hand, those of

> us > > > > > who took the plunge are living normal

> lives. > > > > > > > > > > There was one member of this group who left to

> form > > > > > her own group because she was opposed to using > > > > >

> alternative health measures. Maybe you would be > > > > > happier in

> their group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It > > > > > sounds like you and

> would be soul mates. > > > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > > >

> Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Opinions expressed

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I don't do anything my body can't handle. I have been

walking everyday for the last week and feel wonderful!

I am starting out slow but enjoy it a lot.

I hope that I won't ever have to stop getting my

exercise.

I feel it is helping me to feel better.

Annie

--- JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Rogene, I wanted to add my experince on this. I

exercised everyday for years, and it wasnt until I

stopped and reverted to plain simple walking and

rebounding, that I started to lose weight and get

better. Mercolas office specifically told me to stop

for a while ,and let the bodfy have reserved energy

stores for healing, not using up all my energy on

strenous workouts. I have gotten better and finally

saw the weight starting to melt off, doing less. I

think it was aggravating too much cortisol and

hampering me from getting well.

ALso, if it hurts, dont so it. We are sick and to

push harder, is only non sense. Love you, jUlie

>From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply-To:

>

< > >Subject:

Annie >Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:14:45

-0800 (PST) > > >Annie, > >I hope you don't think I

was attacking you . . . >because that's the impression

you left me with. > >We always recommend that people

exercise . . . but >that's not always possible. It's

good that you're >finding the answers you need in

exercise. However, if >I remember, you've only

recently been explanted, >weren't you? . . . Only time

will tell how well you do >with nutrition and exercise

as your core program. I >sincerely hope you do really

well. > >Some of us need more than just exercise. If

you were >to see Patty, you would know what detoxing

has done >for her. . . When she's with her 23 year old

son, they >mistake her for his girlfriend! . . . Not a

line, not >a wrinkle. She's a beautiful person, inside

and out. > >I do have friends who exercise to, what I

consider, >extremes . . . Unfortunately, that hasn't

kept her >from bypass surgery, plus additional surgery

to repair >damage caused by the surgery. . . She's

still having >breathing problems. Her husband has his

own set of >problems. Even then, they go on biking

trips where >they bike for 25-30 miles per day. Same

with hiking! >Exercise doesn't do it all! > >Looking

back when I first became involved in the >implant

issue, the women who I met, at that time, who >scorned

all alternative health measures are sicker now >than

ever, never having recovered to the point that >life

became good again. On the other hand, those of us >who

took the plunge are living normal lives. > >There was

one member of this group who left to form >her own

group because she was opposed to using >alternative

health measures. Maybe you would be >happier in their

group . . . Breast Implant Facts. It >sounds like you

and would be soul mates. > >Hugs, > >Rogene > >

> >

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Annie,

Yes, I am aware that Dr. Kolb is not the answer. My question for her was if she had ever heard of anyone with only one symptom, hair loss. I am trying to figure out if it was just my body reacting to a foreign object, allergic to the silicone or something. Or is it that the implants messed up my thyroid. The hair loss started after implants. My PS had it written in his notes, that's why he was so supportive...I think. Believe me, I do not want to take medication!!! That is what I am trying so hard to avoid. If I knew it would stop falling out soon, I wouldn't do anything! It has been two weeks since explant and so far no change. I know to give it time, but how much! I just don't want to wait too long as my hair is already so thin.

Marie

RE: dawn: MD who wrote> that book> > > Dawn,> > Dr. Kolb is a lady . . . She also has breast> implants.> > She has said that she considers her implants> important> to understanding the women's issues.> > She has some symptoms, but manages to keep them> under> control with her protocol.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place> of advice given by licensed health care> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> health care professional before commencing any> medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> happy life and how to work for a better world." -> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >

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I am zeroing in on a doctor 4 hour drive from my home in Fort Myers Florida over to the north east side of the state. I'm waiting for her to come back from vacation on the 5th of June.

I am in Florida as well, and from your description, may not be too far from me. I am about an hour north of orlando, in Lake county.

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