Re: Rogene: deep tissue massage question

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

I just wanted to tell you that I get really hard muscles too. At

first it was just my shoulders, now my calfs get really hard, too. I

found a massage therapist when I was in the Phoenix area who was

amazingly gifted. She worked at a spa that just used the Aveda

products, which are Ayurvedic. She also had a cushy warm surface for

me to lay on. She does wonders, though. Hope you find one that good.

If I was going to be looking for one, I would check for someone who

does healing massage and be sure they use natural products on your

skin.

Best wishes and love,

Rochelle

--- In , " bethlakey " <bethlakey@y...>

wrote:

>

> Rogene,

>

> These is a massage therapist at the gym I just joined. After my

> workout, I was complaining about how my neck and back are hurting

> now, and she looked at the area and kneaded it a bit, and said the

> entire area was very tight. She said even my shoulders are

> rounded. Anyway, she wants me to come in for a 30 minute deep

> tissue massage followed by the sauna.

>

> What do you think about that? Do you think it will help?

Sometimes

> my upper back hurts so much I can't even stand for anyone to touch

> it.

>

> thanks,

> Beth

[Guest guest]

Beth, not to butt in, but I went through a period last year for deep tissue massage to break up some fibro tender points (that I believed were from insuffeceint thyroid medicating) It is good for your circlution, and also helps the body to heal faster, by opeing up blocked passages ways. I did it about twice a month, for about 3 months. I think from the impact and also stress of implants, alot of us have these deep tense muscles, that could use some working on. And would be quite beneficial. My neck and upper back have never felt beter, but it was uncomfortable ,as he would go deeper into the tissues. He went at it slowly, but no matter what, it got a little tense at times. Love julie

>From: "bethlakey" <bethlakey@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Rogene: deep tissue massage question >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:35:22 -0000 > > > >Rogene, > >These is a massage therapist at the gym I just joined. After my >workout, I was complaining about how my neck and back are hurting >now, and she looked at the area and kneaded it a bit, and said the >entire area was very tight. She said even my shoulders are >rounded. Anyway, she wants me to come in for a 30 minute deep >tissue massage followed by the sauna. > >What do you think about that? Do you think it will help? Sometimes >my upper back hurts so much I can't even stand for anyone to touch >it. > >thanks, >Beth > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I still do the deep tissue massage once a month, only thing that keeps me

moving without as much pain.

Lynda

At 03:18 PM 2/24/2005, you wrote:

>Beth, not to butt in, but I went through a period last year for deep

>tissue massage to break up some fibro tender points (that I believed were

>from insuffeceint thyroid medicating) It is good for your circlution, and

>also helps the body to heal faster, by opeing up blocked passages ways. I

>did it about twice a month, for about 3 months. I think from the impact

>and also stress of implants, alot of us have these deep tense muscles,

>that could use some working on. And would be quite beneficial. My neck

>and upper back have never felt beter, but it was uncomfortable ,as he

>would go deeper into the tissues. He went at it slowly, but no matter

>what, it got a little tense at times. Love julie

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: " bethlakey " <bethlakey@...> >Reply-To:

> >To:

> >Subject: Rogene: deep

> tissue massage question >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:35:22

> -0000 > > > >Rogene, > >These is a massage therapist at the gym I just

> joined. After my >workout, I was complaining about how my neck and back

> are hurting >now, and she looked at the area and kneaded it a bit, and

> said the >entire area was very tight. She said even my shoulders

> are >rounded. Anyway, she wants me to come in for a 30 minute

> deep >tissue massage followed by the sauna. > >What do you think about

> that? Do you think it will help? Sometimes >my upper back hurts so much I

> can't even stand for anyone to

> touch >it. > >thanks, >Beth > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Lynda do you have fibromyalgia?

Annie

--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> I still do the deep tissue massage once a month,

> only thing that keeps me

> moving without as much pain.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 03:18 PM 2/24/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Beth, not to butt in, but I went through a period

> last year for deep

> >tissue massage to break up some fibro tender points

> (that I believed were

> >from insuffeceint thyroid medicating) It is good

> for your circlution, and

> >also helps the body to heal faster, by opeing up

> blocked passages ways. I

> >did it about twice a month, for about 3 months. I

> think from the impact

> >and also stress of implants, alot of us have these

> deep tense muscles,

> >that could use some working on. And would be quite

> beneficial. My neck

> >and upper back have never felt beter, but it was

> uncomfortable ,as he

> >would go deeper into the tissues. He went at it

> slowly, but no matter

> >what, it got a little tense at times. Love julie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: " bethlakey " <bethlakey@...>

> >Reply-To:

> > >To:

> > >Subject:

> Rogene: deep

> > tissue massage question >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005

> 21:35:22

> > -0000 > > > >Rogene, > >These is a massage

> therapist at the gym I just

> > joined. After my >workout, I was complaining about

> how my neck and back

> > are hurting >now, and she looked at the area and

> kneaded it a bit, and

> > said the >entire area was very tight. She said

> even my shoulders

> > are >rounded. Anyway, she wants me to come in for

> a 30 minute

> > deep >tissue massage followed by the sauna. >

> >What do you think about

> > that? Do you think it will help? Sometimes >my

> upper back hurts so much I

> > can't even stand for anyone to

> > touch >it. > >thanks, >Beth > > > > >

> >

[Guest guest]

Beth,

One can get an excellent massage even if you can't

stand to have your back touched. . . Sometimes my

massage therapist spends a lot of time on my feet,

using reflexology points to help the rest of my body.

I've had tight shoulder muscles for many years. Aside

from infrared sauna, stretching, moderate exercise,

massage heat, and baths, the thing that has helped the

most is supplementing with Magnesium.

The muscles need Magnesium to function properly. It's

made a huge difference. The massage therapist said

that my muscles slide against each other now, rather

than sticking together. She told me that I've made

more progress than any other FM client she works on.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thats wonderful to hear . Did you start off on alot more appts in the beginng and now its tapered down to once a month? Jule

>From: Lynda <coss@...> >Reply- > >Subject: RE: Rogene: deep tissue massage question >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:41:37 -0700 > > >I still do the deep tissue massage once a month, only thing that keeps me >moving without as much pain. > >Lynda > > >At 03:18 PM 2/24/2005, you wrote: > > >Beth, not to butt in, but I went through a period last year for deep > >tissue massage to break up some fibro tender points (that I believed were > >from insuffeceint thyroid medicating) It is good for your circlution, and > >also helps the body to heal faster, by opeing up blocked passages ways. I > >did it about twice a month, for about 3 months. I think from the impact > >and also stress of implants, alot of us have these deep tense muscles, > >that could use some working on. And would be quite beneficial. My neck > >and upper back have never felt beter, but it was uncomfortable ,as he > >would go deeper into the tissues. He went at it slowly, but no matter > >what, it got a little tense at times. Love julie > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "bethlakey" <bethlakey@...> >Reply-> > >> > >Subject: Rogene: deep > > tissue massage question >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:35:22 > > -0000 > > > >Rogene, > >These is a massage therapist at the gym I just > > joined. After my >workout, I was complaining about how my neck and back > > are hurting >now, and she looked at the area and kneaded it a bit, and > > said the >entire area was very tight. She said even my shoulders > > are >rounded. Anyway, she wants me to come in for a 30 minute > > deep >tissue massage followed by the sauna. > >What do you think about > > that? Do you think it will help? Sometimes >my upper back hurts so much I > > can't even stand for anyone to > > touch >it. > >thanks, >Beth > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Rogene, thats awesome that your doing the best with your therapist! I wonder why! You work so hards at getting well, and I commend you girl! Keep up the good work..its paying off Love julie

>From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Rogene: deep tissue massage question >Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:42:21 -0800 (PST) > > >Beth, > >One can get an excellent massage even if you can't >stand to have your back touched. . . Sometimes my >massage therapist spends a lot of time on my feet, >using reflexology points to help the rest of my body. > >I've had tight shoulder muscles for many years. Aside >from infrared sauna, stretching, moderate exercise, >massage heat, and baths, the thing that has helped the >most is supplementing with Magnesium. > >The muscles need Magnesium to function properly. It's >made a huge difference. The massage therapist said >that my muscles slide against each other now, rather >than sticking together. She told me that I've made >more progress than any other FM client she works on. > >Hugs, > >Rogene > > > >

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

That is awesome! In fact, that should really bring alot of encouragement to our ladies who are struggling with fibromyalgia. You've been able to overcome it and that says ALOT. Please keep telling our ladies what you did to get better! They need to hear it!

It's your testimonies about the massages that made me want to get them, by the way!

I enjoy them so much. I've only had 4 or 5, but they are definitely a treat for me...for some of you, they are a necessity.

Love,

PattyRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

Beth,One can get an excellent massage even if you can'tstand to have your back touched. . . Sometimes mymassage therapist spends a lot of time on my feet,using reflexology points to help the rest of my body.I've had tight shoulder muscles for many years. Asidefrom infrared sauna, stretching, moderate exercise,massage heat, and baths, the thing that has helped themost is supplementing with Magnesium.The muscles need Magnesium to function properly. It'smade a huge difference. The massage therapist saidthat my muscles slide against each other now, ratherthan sticking together. She told me that I've mademore progress than any other FM client she works on.Hugs,RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Dear Ladies --

Rogene is absolutely correct -- you need not have your sore

arm/shoulder massaged for relief as your trigger point may be

elsewhere. For those of you who cannot afford to pay for massage,

there are books on self-massage based on these trigger-point

principles. Making yourself do stretches to both strengthen the

muscle and loosen it up is essential -- as are taking warm Epsom salt

bath/soaks or using heat pads for injured muscles (can be bought for

about $10 at discount drug stores like Walgreens or CVS or at

discount home product stores like Bed, Bath & Beyond). You should

first heat the sore muscles to loosen them a bit and then stretch

them gently and slowly -- repeating this pair of activities 4-6 times

a day. You can add self-massage to make it a trio of helpful

activities 4-6 times a day -- the worse it hurts the more often you

should do it.

Per the books written by nationally known experts on chronic pain,

those of us with auto-immune disorders (thyroid problems,

hypoglycemia/diabetes, lupus, etc) obtain the LEAST or briefest (I

hope I spelled that right) relief from massage due to those disorders

and also tend to have the most resistant (to pain relief) forms of

fibromyalgia so the massage MUST be repeated several times a day to

truly help.

I only recently became aware of the need to increase my magnesium

supplementation -- had read it in a couple of books on my thyroid

condition -- then had Rogene point out the importance of doing this

ASAP -- thanks to her I will do that as soon as I can get to the

store (hopefully my house arrest will end this week).

I wish those of you with such problems all the best in seeking pain

relief and self-management(improvement) systems.

Regards,

> Beth,

>

> One can get an excellent massage even if you can't

> stand to have your back touched. . . Sometimes my

> massage therapist spends a lot of time on my feet,

> using reflexology points to help the rest of my body.

>

> I've had tight shoulder muscles for many years. Aside

> from infrared sauna, stretching, moderate exercise,

> massage heat, and baths, the thing that has helped the

> most is supplementing with Magnesium.

>

> The muscles need Magnesium to function properly. It's

> made a huge difference. The massage therapist said

> that my muscles slide against each other now, rather

> than sticking together. She told me that I've made

> more progress than any other FM client she works on.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963,

Peace)

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