Re: How do I escape the mycotoxins 100% ??

[Guest guest]

>

> My eyes & face constantly burn, my lungs bleed lightly & hurt and I

> have pneumonia/bronchitis every other month. I even have mold growing

> in my sinuses. I have been out of my mold home for 6 months, yet I

> still continue to cross-contaminate all of my new apartments. Is

> there hope for someone like me? I am trying to get in to Dr.

> Shoemaker soon to try to get some help but this has been a living

> HeLL!! I weigh 108 lbs and I continually shock myself when I touch

> everything. I know that some of you know what I am going through. I

> am super hypersensitive to the mycotoxins because I have a lowered

> immune system due to rheumatoid arthritis. Does anyone have any

> advice? Do I need to just live in a tent somewhere to get better? I

> thought about it but I am trying to raise a 5 yr. old and it's not so

> easy. I recently heard about soaking my clothing for 12 hours in a

> solution of vulpex soap to help nutralize the mycotoxins. Is there

> ever a reversible point at which we become better and don't notice the

> mycotoxins as much or at all? Is it dangerous to cross contaminate

> your new space with items like clothing or sunglasses? I seem to be

> doing this often! I can't seem to get away from the toxins. I'm even

> on car #2. Please respond if you know what I'm talking about. Help!!

> Thanks--

Try to obtain concentrated hydrogen peroxide (30-35%), and a garden

spray bottle. Make the weak dilution (about 3%) by adding only a few

mililiters of conc. peroxide and about 200 ml of water. For added

efficiency you may add some borax to this mixture.

Spray your objects (porous and non-porous) with this, and try doing

your laundry with this.

Increase the concentration if the weakest dilution doesn't help. But

be VERY cautious - hydrogen peroxide above 8% is very irritating to

skin AND to clothes. I ruined some clothes by making too strong

dilution. Paper items can be treated only with weak peroxide. Stonger

will decompose them or even cause them to ignite and burn with fire.

So be careful. And use protective gloves if you can. Peroxide is not

toxic itself, but it can cause strong irritation and irreversible

damage to porous objects.

I don't guarantee this will work for you, but it helps me better than

anything else. I noticed that many products that claim to denature

trichothecene mycotoxins contain hydrogen peroxide as the main ingredient.

-Branislav

[Guest guest]

>

> My eyes & face constantly burn, my lungs bleed lightly & hurt and I

> have pneumonia/bronchitis every other month. I even have mold

growing

> in my sinuses. I have been out of my mold home for 6 months, yet I

> still continue to cross-contaminate all of my new apartments. Is

> there hope for someone like me?

I am new to this group but I " feel " your pain. We had to leave a

defective home 2 1/2 years ago. What we learned from experts is that if

we wanted to keep anything (I mean anything!) that was in the house it

had to be professionally cleaned. We disposed of many items including

mattresses and upholstered furniture. It is like living through a

series of " deaths " when you learn how many of your things you must

dispose of.

-

[Guest guest]

-amazeing about the all the shocking going on, i thought i was the

only one. for all long time it was a constant thing,everything i

touched. now it happens off and on and in boughts. sounds like you

might have MCS. you may be sensative to much more than

mold/mycotoxins. so sorry you are going through this. look for a

place with no carpet, only hardwood floors, seperate entrance if

apartment, seperate heating and cooling system or at least a very

clean one. no place with musty smelly basement. no landlord that is

bug spray happy, get rid of all perfumes, smelly shampoos, etc.

start washing your sinuses a few times a day, this well help a lot.

ALL FREE AND CLEAR laundry deturgent, no dryer sheets, for new cloths

and wash them before you wear them. for moldy cloths you might try

ammonia and dawn dishwashing soap, might work. laundry instructions

on back of ammonia, hold your breath while pouring it into wash

cycle, ammonia smell goes away when dried, might have to wash them

several times, can't garentee it will work but did for me.

good luck hope this helps some -- In

, " moldshan " <moldshan@...> wrote:

>

> My eyes & face constantly burn, my lungs bleed lightly & hurt and I

> have pneumonia/bronchitis every other month. I even have mold

growing

> in my sinuses. I have been out of my mold home for 6 months, yet I

> still continue to cross-contaminate all of my new apartments. Is

> there hope for someone like me? I am trying to get in to Dr.

> Shoemaker soon to try to get some help but this has been a living

> HeLL!! I weigh 108 lbs and I continually shock myself when I

touch

> everything. I know that some of you know what I am going through.

I

> am super hypersensitive to the mycotoxins because I have a lowered

> immune system due to rheumatoid arthritis. Does anyone have any

> advice? Do I need to just live in a tent somewhere to get better?

I

> thought about it but I am trying to raise a 5 yr. old and it's not

so

> easy. I recently heard about soaking my clothing for 12 hours in

a

> solution of vulpex soap to help nutralize the mycotoxins. Is there

> ever a reversible point at which we become better and don't notice

the

> mycotoxins as much or at all? Is it dangerous to cross contaminate

> your new space with items like clothing or sunglasses? I seem to

be

> doing this often! I can't seem to get away from the toxins. I'm

even

> on car #2. Please respond if you know what I'm talking about.

Help!!

> Thanks--

>

[Guest guest]

When I was living in a very moldy, verified mycotoin ridden environment I

found that several things helped a lot.

I don't know if these ideas will help you but they helped us.

Get at least one, or preferably more air cleaners and run them continuously

in your home. Put the best and biggest one in your children's bedroom and

the next biggest one in your own bedroom. If money is really tight, you can

use the MERV13 Filtrete filters on 20 inch box fans in a pinch as air

cleaners. Make sure you are also getting fresh air from outside. Also if

there is mold in the walls, get a window fan and put it wherever it will be

able to catch the cleanest air from outside and bring it in.. (this is

usually upwind) then run it at a low speed and use it to keep fresh air

circulating through your home, even if that means it is cold.. This is in

addition to the air cleaners. Some heaters end up sending mold into a home..

IMO, cold clean air is better than poisonous warm air... Seal up any holes

in the walls you can find, that allow air from inside of wall cavities into

your space, and try to maintain a slightly positive pressure in your space,

compared to outside. Make sure that whenever you do something that generates

lots of humidity like cook or shower that that moisture is immediately

vented out.. even if its cold.. this is important!

*The most important thing for your health is trying to get the cleanest air

you can.*

Also, wear slippers all of the time and wet mop hardwood floors frequently..

use a HEPA vaccumn frequently, with an N95 (at least) mask on and the

windows open and window fan on while you vaccumn.. (because vacuuming stirs

up a lot of stuff..)

Use saline solution to wash out your sinuses at least two or three times a

day and use plain saline eye drops to wash the gunk out of your eyes..

Take strong antioxidants (NAC, ALA, Vit C, Vit E, zinc, selenium, thiamin

etc.) at least three times daily.. morning, noonish + evening.. Try to

find out what molds you are mostly dealing with and research antidotes for

whatever poisons they produce.. If it turns out that your new home also

has a mold problem, and you can't eliminate the sources of the mold by

eliminating the moisture, (get a relative humidity meter and get familiar

with your homes RH situations..) you may need to move again until you are in

a safe place..

> >

> > My eyes & face constantly burn, my lungs bleed lightly & hurt and I

> > have pneumonia/bronchitis every other month. I even have mold growing

> > in my sinuses. I have been out of my mold home for 6 months, yet I

> > still continue to cross-contaminate all of my new apartments. Is

> > there hope for someone like me? I am trying to get in to Dr.

> > Shoemaker soon to try to get some help but this has been a living

> > HeLL!! I weigh 108 lbs and I continually shock myself when I touch

> > everything. I know that some of you know what I am going through. I

> > am super hypersensitive to the mycotoxins because I have a lowered

> > immune system due to rheumatoid arthritis. Does anyone have any

> > advice? Do I need to just live in a tent somewhere to get better? I

> > thought about it but I am trying to raise a 5 yr. old and it's not so

> > easy. I recently heard about soaking my clothing for 12 hours in a

> > solution of vulpex soap to help nutralize the mycotoxins. Is there

> > ever a reversible point at which we become better and don't notice the

> > mycotoxins as much or at all? Is it dangerous to cross contaminate

> > your new space with items like clothing or sunglasses? I seem to be

> > doing this often! I can't seem to get away from the toxins. I'm even

> > on car #2. Please respond if you know what I'm talking about. Help!!

> > Thanks--

>

>

[Guest guest]

....I've read that cleaning with ammonia and for

papers spritzing with ammonia is may work but

wear mask. This is what a toxicologist I talked

to recommended.

[Guest guest]

please send me a message to my personel e-mail with your tel#-I will

call you over the weekend to discuss what has worked for me -and

hopefully sinus help also-I went through 4 houses and 4 cars in the

spring.

--- In , " moldshan " <moldshan@...>

wrote:

>

> My eyes & face constantly burn, my lungs bleed lightly & hurt and

I

> have pneumonia/bronchitis every other month. I even have mold

growing

> in my sinuses. I have been out of my mold home for 6 months, yet

I

> still continue to cross-contaminate all of my new apartments. Is

> there hope for someone like me? I am trying to get in to Dr.

> Shoemaker soon to try to get some help but this has been a living

> HeLL!! I weigh 108 lbs and I continually shock myself when I

touch

> everything. I know that some of you know what I am going

through. I

> am super hypersensitive to the mycotoxins because I have a lowered

> immune system due to rheumatoid arthritis. Does anyone have any

> advice? Do I need to just live in a tent somewhere to get

better? I

> thought about it but I am trying to raise a 5 yr. old and it's not

so

> easy. I recently heard about soaking my clothing for 12 hours in

a

> solution of vulpex soap to help nutralize the mycotoxins. Is

there

> ever a reversible point at which we become better and don't notice

the

> mycotoxins as much or at all? Is it dangerous to cross

contaminate

> your new space with items like clothing or sunglasses? I seem to

be

> doing this often! I can't seem to get away from the toxins. I'm

even

> on car #2. Please respond if you know what I'm talking about.

Help!!

> Thanks--

>