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Belinda,

How high is the IgM level? Do you have a reference range? I ask only

because there is a PID called hyper IgM syndrome, but I believe the level has

to be very high.

Is your daughter on IVIG?

Autumn mom to Mark Cd5-Cd19 PID/ Samter's syndrome, GERD, A1A

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Hi everyone,

I have had such a discouraging day. I took kelsey for her IVIG this

morning. Now last infusion we used a sedative for her but it dident seem

to make much difference so i told the nurse that i will go back to

benadryl for the next one. Well she dident tell anyone so the docs

orders were to sedate. I gave kelsey her premeds which included benadryl

and went to the appt. Well when they found out about the benadryl they

called the doc and he refused to do the infusion. I am mad b/c it relly

came acreoss as a power trip and there was no medical reason why kelsey

couldnt have the treatment today or no reason why he couldnt change the

orders over the phone for the nurse. I am worried now that there will be

a lapse between treatments. They said this wont matter but then why do

they say 6-8 treatments before we see results? So we have an appt to

meet with him on the 15th to talk about a treatment plan and then she

will get her infusion. What a messs but i am so mad. If you are mad at

me than fine but dont take it out on my kid.

Amber

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> Anyone know the significance of an elevated igm level? I was reviewing

> Cassie's blood work and her igm levels were high. I go see the immunologist

> tomorrow, but I was hoping I might get some ideas beforehand. Hope everyone

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> Thanks,

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Cassie is still on IVIG. Her igm level was 239 prior to starting the ivig 2

years ago. I just kind of stumbled across some blood work that they ran

before, and I saw that level. The normal range at that time is 44 to 173. I

really do not think they missed it, I just happened to come across this. I

was just going to bring it to the immunologist attention tomorrow at her

appointment. I do not have copies of the blood work done after diagnosis of

the igg immunodefficiency. I think I might have to go ask for those now. I

was just curious to see if and what those numbers meant at that time.

Thanks!!

Belinda Rose,

mom to Cassie, igg immunodefficiency, asthma, chronic sinusitis.

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Ursula,

This might seem like a silly question, but how can each lab have different

numbers for a range that is measuring the same thing? I can understand adult

versus pediatric ranges, but not igm ranges being different for different

labs. The normal range that was put for this particular lab was normal being

43-173. Cassie's was at 239.

Thanks for your information. I am off to make dinner. Hope everyone has a

nice evening.

Belinda Rose,

Mom to Cassie, igg immunodefficient, asthma, chronic sinusitis

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Ursula,

Thanks for your input. I guess it really made me think about Cassie's

overall health at the time that this bloodwork was done. She was literally

sick all the time. I will bring that issue up tomorrow, and see what results

I get. I do hope I can get some answers. If it is a diagnostic tool to how

she is feeling right now, then I would say not to worry. However, if her

levels have always been high, or borderline, I want to find out if this is

something that we might want to look into. Exactly what does igm do for the

body?

Belinda Rose,

mom to Cassie, igg immunodefficient, asthma, chronic sinusitis

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Belinda - realizing that all different labs have all different ranges I've

looked up the reference ranges in the nursing lab reference book we use for

school.

IgM - adult (55-375)

children (20-200)

That might make things seem alittle more in range. Hope that helps.

Urs

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Cassie is still on IVIG. Her igm level was 239 prior to starting the ivig 2

years ago. I just kind of stumbled across some blood work that they ran

before, and I saw that level. The normal range at that time is 44 to 173.

I

really do not think they missed it, I just happened to come across this. I

was just going to bring it to the immunologist attention tomorrow at her

appointment. I do not have copies of the blood work done after diagnosis of

the igg immunodefficiency. I think I might have to go ask for those now. I

was just curious to see if and what those numbers meant at that time.

Thanks!!

Belinda Rose,

mom to Cassie, igg immunodefficiency, asthma, chronic sinusitis.

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Dear Amber,

I am sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience. I would speak

" openly " with the physician when you see him and make sure that the two of

you decide together what is best for Kinsey. You have to develop a working

partnership when dealing with chronic illnesses and some physicians are not

always eagar to do this. Hope you have a better day tomorrow and hope that

everyone stays healthy in the meantime!!

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Belinda - I believe after 2 yrs you have stated the million dollar question.

And at times I'm sure a variation in ranges has diagnosed and/or

misdiagnosed many people. Between lab draws at our local children's

hospital, Specialty Labs in California, Duke University, and Quest

Laboratories we have had four different ranges. The way it was explained to

me is that the actual result is an indicator and the patient's health is the

" diagnoser " . In other words if an IgA level is low at one lab but low

normal at another lab then look at the patients clinical status.

IE: Macey's IgA is deficient at some labs but normal at 2 others. But

Macey (lately) hasn't been symptomatic of IgA deficiency.

It would be nice if the IDF or Duke or some other reknown immunology center

could come up with one set group of ranges for all the immune globulin's but

until then alot of immunologists are basing treatment on the clinical status

of a patient.

Just my .02 at making " sense " out of all this.

Ursula

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Ursula,

This might seem like a silly question, but how can each lab have different

numbers for a range that is measuring the same thing? I can understand

adult

versus pediatric ranges, but not igm ranges being different for different

labs. The normal range that was put for this particular lab was normal

being

43-173. Cassie's was at 239.

Thanks for your information. I am off to make dinner. Hope everyone has a

nice evening.

Belinda Rose,

Mom to Cassie, igg immunodefficient, asthma, chronic sinusitis

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