Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 The low eye contact could very well be a sensory issue. My daughter had very little eye contact last year. It has improved greatly this year, though it still needs improvement. I'll hold things she wants up between my eyes to force eye contact and that has helped. Read this link on Sensory Integration Dysfunction below: http://home.ptd.net/~blnelson/SIDWEBPAGE2.htm#Sensory Under Symptoms (Visual) it lists Avoids Eye Contact: http://home.ptd.net/~blnelson/SIDWEBPAGE2.htm#Symptoms Another interesting section was the area regarding Misdiagnosis: http://home.ptd.net/~blnelson/SIDWEBPAGE2.htm#Misdiagnosis Hope that helps. Jill - Mom to 30 months with Hypotonia and speech delay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Eye contact Because you're not on the spectrum, you " automatically " do things like eye contact - you aren't aware there are rules because they are already programmed in to you. For me, I don't have any automatic programming, so I constantly watch people to see what they do so I can copy it. I am always figuring out the rules that everyone else seems to know naturally. --- Well I remember feeling the same as an adolescent, and copying others and taking behaviour tactics from magazines. I still do it in new situations, but perhaps it's not so hard to do or understand the reasons behind it if you're NT. I have to remember to smile more than I naturally want to as well and am sometimes aware that I'm not doing it enough. Like everything, there are more similarities than differences between us all. Lucy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 I didn't even know there were " eye contact " rules! I am (does NT cover adults as well?) not on the spectrum but do have times when I feel a little uncomfortable if the hallway is too long and there's just me and one person coming from the other end. I look around or down or at a peice of paper in my hand until the person gets almost to the point of passing me, THEN I make eye contact and smile. (Unless I don't like the person, then I just ignore them completely!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 > Always be suspicious of a " professional " s evaluation of eye contact. > I'd like to share a story from when Eli was in 5th grade. The guidance counselor, Mrs. B., went with Eli to talk to Mr. S. about the middle school math team. Afterwards, Mrs. B. told me that Eli had been making wonderful eye contact with Mr. S. while they were there. Well.... That afternoon, I heard Eli telling his brother " Mr. S. has some really interesting wrinkles on his forehead that move when he talks. I was watching them the whole time I was there. " (I later told this to Mrs. B., who thought it was hilarious, and started wondering what Eli was really looking at when she thought he was making eye contact with her.) > in Massachusetts Bradley told me before that it hurt his brain to look at my eyes. This year we were sitting at the table, just me and him, and he was talking and I was looking at him and he was looking RIGHT IN MY EYES!!!!!!!! So I got a great big smile on my face and he was talking away (I don't even know about what) and he said why are you so happy, I said because you are so cute and you have such nice eyes. He got a little embarrassed and laughed a little, so then he started asking people if they liked his eyes - typical - his Dad is always fishing for a compliment too-haha So anyway, now he makes eye contact with a lot of people, not all, but a lot more than before. I thought it was a breakthrough but now I realize - HALLELUJAH !! HE'S CURED. IT WAS JUST BAD PARENTING!!!!! well - I guess all the other stuff is going to magically disappear now too. What a relief. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 What are people's opinion on holding out for eye contact? If you do hold out, what does it look like? Do you put their hands to your face or put the item your working with up to your face or simply sit quietly until they look? My son has tons of emerging language - he's only been verbal since March but communicative intent in regards to requests is very much there. I actually don't agree with holding out - especially during this time of language acquistion because I've watched and held out for eye contact myself and he's very confused by the delay in receiving his request and starts running every form of requesting he has - very unsure what the expectation is - no matter how many times we say " good looking " . ex: " I want juice " therapist holds cup and waits for eye contact " Can I have juice please " still holding cup/no eye contact " Can I have juice please " still waiting " Can I have juice please, yes " still waiting... He keeps adding more and more words to the sentence - even when you bring hands to face. Any opinions? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Jodie, EFAs are a good idea and you can get them at a health food store. Personally, I like the liquid EFA blend (borage oil, evening primrose oil, and flaxseed oil) from Health From the Sun. It's in the refrigerator case in a black plastic bottle. I just pour a little over carbs and veggies. It tastes like butter. Do you have a copy of the hair test? Ask for one for your files. What lab did it? As you may know or discover from the FAQs of this list, DMSA and ALA are recommended over EDTA for mercury toxic folks. S S <br> <br> Hi Jodie,<br> Was it a DDI hair elements test? Conveniently Andy Cutler has come up with counting rules for this test. Mercury does not generally show as high for mercury-toxic folks but it does cause disordered mineral transport which is what the counting rules look at. Check the FAQs of this list for details.<br> S S<br> <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thank you I will certainly look into this. jodie danasview <danasview@...> wrote: >>My question is now that we have come so far, what can I do to increase focus. i.e. when I attempt to show Collin how to tie his shoes, he appears to be paying attention but will look up when he should be looking at his shoelaces. For my kids, B vitamins, fish oil, and anti-virals eliminated focus problems. Dana __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Is lack of eye contact a social skill our kids are lacking? Is it related to the hypofusion in the right temprol lobe as language is to the left? rgds Kavita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 It is dysfunction in one of those lobes, yes. When I was a kid, I could be forced to give eye contact, but it was very intense to me - like an electrical shock when eye contact was made - without the actual shock of course, just the intensity. Perhaps some are capable. I think in my son, the lack of it was significant hypoperfusion in that area, because as he started getting well, it improved a great deal. When he really (a year and a half into it) " popped " into focus, I noticed even after having had eye contact, it got even better. His eyes " lead " to where he was looking rather than him turning his head and focusing his eyes then. I still see this fluctuate and it matches up to his connectedness and focus, health and periods of illness. (He's off all meds but continues to progress forward). My youngest used-to-be-NT son's eye contact gets diminished w/illness and he looks thru me. Eventually the longer he is sick the less he even looks up. When he improves, his eyes start brightening and looking at me better. He still doesn't have the " pow " and the sparkle he used to have, and if it doesn't return I will have to get him back on the protocol. When I'm sick and in a fog, I stop looking at people. It literally takes effort to look into someone's eyes. I've gone days without making good eye contact w/adults (I put a great deal more effort into it for my kids). That isn't autism w/me, it's just fog. People start accusing me of being mad or ignoring them. But I'm really just in a fog. I might even hear them and just take 30+ seconds to respond if I don't forget to first. LOL. They tend to be more patient these days except for my kids. HTH- --- kavita_d_mallik <kavita_d_mallik@...> wrote: > Is lack of eye contact a social skill our kids are > lacking? Is it > related to the hypofusion in the right temprol lobe > as language is to > the left? rgds Kavita > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/newmail_html.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 no one in the last 2 1/2 years has been able to explain this to me as you have. What I admire even more is you bring your own experience and insight into it to help others like me. I am very grateful to you for that, thankyou soooo very much. much admiration and respect Kavita Re: Re: Eye Contact It is dysfunction in one of those lobes, yes. When I was a kid, I could be forced to give eye contact, but it was very intense to me - like an electrical shock when eye contact was made - without the actual shock of course, just the intensity. Perhaps some are capable. I think in my son, the lack of it was significant hypoperfusion in that area, because as he started getting well, it improved a great deal. When he really (a year and a half into it) " popped " into focus, I noticed even after having had eye contact, it got even better. His eyes " lead " to where he was looking rather than him turning his head and focusing his eyes then. I still see this fluctuate and it matches up to his connectedness and focus, health and periods of illness. (He's off all meds but continues to progress forward). My youngest used-to-be-NT son's eye contact gets diminished w/illness and he looks thru me. Eventually the longer he is sick the less he even looks up. When he improves, his eyes start brightening and looking at me better. He still doesn't have the " pow " and the sparkle he used to have, and if it doesn't return I will have to get him back on the protocol. When I'm sick and in a fog, I stop looking at people. It literally takes effort to look into someone's eyes. I've gone days without making good eye contact w/adults (I put a great deal more effort into it for my kids). That isn't autism w/me, it's just fog. People start accusing me of being mad or ignoring them. But I'm really just in a fog. I might even hear them and just take 30+ seconds to respond if I don't forget to first. LOL. They tend to be more patient these days except for my kids. HTH- --- kavita_d_mallik <kavita_d_mallik> wrote: > Is lack of eye contact a social skill our kids are > lacking? Is it > related to the hypofusion in the right temprol lobe > as language is to > the left? rgds Kavita > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Beta. http://advision. webevents. / mailbeta/ newmail_html. html ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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