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Hi,

For the question regarding items for hot and cold. Food was a great choice

for us. We used pizza, soup, and french toast. I would heat the food in the

microwave before trials. If your child is on the GFCF diet, the food may be a

little more difficult. We also used the food as a reinforcer. Washcloths and

towels worked too! (I would put the wet washcloth in the freezer and

microwave) My son loves to take baths so I always try to use bath water for

hot/cold.

Hope this helps.

Maureen

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When was the last time you had his thyroid checked? I have hypothyroidism and

have trouble regulating my body temperature. I'm either too hot or too cold.

HTH, 

Robyn

From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...>

Subject: Hot/Cold

" " < >

Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 9:57 AM

I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

to respond. Thanks, Jerri

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When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was dysregulated.  Room

temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the time, but there was nothing

specific causing these.  It eventually went away.

Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably dealing w/

other dysregulation.  I can't remember what it's called, but it is common among

the CFIDS group and has a name.  Is it HPA axis?  The first thing you have

control over is the diet, and making sure it's clean during this time could

help.

This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the first time. 

Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just seemed a little " off " and

I was commenting on this to the pediatrician.  Within 3 months after that, he

was really starting to show symptoms including fatigue.  He was sick for about 8

months, then spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that

for several months before starting to feel bad again.  Once he regressed the

second time, I got him back on meds.

One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I like Cefzil

when there isn't something well-defined because it doesn't set things off) and

see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable improvement.  We can have subtle

low grade infections that drag us down and don't ever really manifest

themselves, and this test often brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and

we never know what the problem was.

HTH-

________________________________

From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

Subject: Hot/Cold

I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

to respond. Thanks, Jerri

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Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I took him to the Dr. thinking

he had a urinary tract infection because he has to pee so often but they

tested him and found nothing but I bet he has a low grade infection they

aren't catching. I doubt hormones, he is 8? How do you get a

prescription for Cefzil without a definitive reason? Dr. G? I have been

making him drink a lot of fluids and he seems to be improving a little.

I just had a thought. I should give him cranberry juice. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

> When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was

> dysregulated. Room temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the

> time, but there was nothing specific causing these. It eventually

> went away.

> Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably

> dealing w/ other dysregulation. I can't remember what it's called,

> but it is common among the CFIDS group and has a name. Is it HPA

> axis? The first thing you have control over is the diet, and making

> sure it's clean during this time could help.

> This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the

> first time. Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just

> seemed a little " off " and I was commenting on this to the

> pediatrician. Within 3 months after that, he was really starting to

> show symptoms including fatigue. He was sick for about 8 months, then

> spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that for

> several months before starting to feel bad again. Once he regressed

> the second time, I got him back on meds.

> One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I

> like Cefzil when there isn't something well-defined because it doesn't

> set things off) and see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable

> improvement. We can have subtle low grade infections that drag us

> down and don't ever really manifest themselves, and this test often

> brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and we never know what

> the problem was.

> HTH-

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann%40sti.net>>

> < <mailto:%40>>

> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

> Subject: Hot/Cold

>

> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

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We all have hormones of all different kinds that can go 'haywire' or be out

of balance at any time, no matter our age or sex.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jerri

Gann

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:54 PM

Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I took him to the Dr. thinking

he had a urinary tract infection because he has to pee so often but they

tested him and found nothing but I bet he has a low grade infection they

aren't catching. I doubt hormones, he is 8? How do you get a

prescription for Cefzil without a definitive reason? Dr. G? I have been

making him drink a lot of fluids and he seems to be improving a little.

I just had a thought. I should give him cranberry juice. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

> When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was

> dysregulated. Room temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the

> time, but there was nothing specific causing these. It eventually

> went away.

> Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably

> dealing w/ other dysregulation. I can't remember what it's called,

> but it is common among the CFIDS group and has a name. Is it HPA

> axis? The first thing you have control over is the diet, and making

> sure it's clean during this time could help.

> This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the

> first time. Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just

> seemed a little " off " and I was commenting on this to the

> pediatrician. Within 3 months after that, he was really starting to

> show symptoms including fatigue. He was sick for about 8 months, then

> spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that for

> several months before starting to feel bad again. Once he regressed

> the second time, I got him back on meds.

> One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I

> like Cefzil when there isn't something well-defined because it doesn't

> set things off) and see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable

> improvement. We can have subtle low grade infections that drag us

> down and don't ever really manifest themselves, and this test often

> brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and we never know what

> the problem was.

> HTH-

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann%40sti.net>

<mailto:njgann%40sti.net>>

> < <mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>>

> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

> Subject: Hot/Cold

>

> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

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Hi, jerri.

 

Please let me know if you find anything out regarding the issue of urinary

frequency. My son has been urinating frequently for the last two months. We've

had several tests for UTIs and nothing. I consulted a peds uro and they scoped

him and said everything was great (he had hypospadias surgery as an infant and

we thought something had happened to the reconstruction).

 

I'm so frustrated because he's been potty trained since 3 1/2 and all of a

sudden we're having accidents.

 

All the best,

 

Robyn

From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...>

Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 8:53 PM

Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I took him to the Dr. thinking

he had a urinary tract infection because he has to pee so often but they

tested him and found nothing but I bet he has a low grade infection they

aren't catching. I doubt hormones, he is 8? How do you get a

prescription for Cefzil without a definitive reason? Dr. G? I have been

making him drink a lot of fluids and he seems to be improving a little.

I just had a thought. I should give him cranberry juice. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

> When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was

> dysregulated. Room temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the

> time, but there was nothing specific causing these. It eventually

> went away.

> Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably

> dealing w/ other dysregulation. I can't remember what it's called,

> but it is common among the CFIDS group and has a name. Is it HPA

> axis? The first thing you have control over is the diet, and making

> sure it's clean during this time could help.

> This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the

> first time. Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just

> seemed a little " off " and I was commenting on this to the

> pediatrician. Within 3 months after that, he was really starting to

> show symptoms including fatigue. He was sick for about 8 months, then

> spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that for

> several months before starting to feel bad again. Once he regressed

> the second time, I got him back on meds.

> One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I

> like Cefzil when there isn't something well-defined because it doesn't

> set things off) and see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable

> improvement. We can have subtle low grade infections that drag us

> down and don't ever really manifest themselves, and this test often

> brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and we never know what

> the problem was.

> HTH-

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann% 40sti.net> >

> <groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>>

> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

> Subject: Hot/Cold

>

> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

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Is he constipated or having other bowel issues?

Could he be sensitive to foods high in oxalates?

In some individuals (me), these form tiny crystals that irritate the UT. I, too,

had to have reconstructive surgery on my urethra. Wonder if there is a

connection?

Kristy

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Hot/Cold

>

> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

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Hi Robyn,

Just thought I would chime in. Our son gets " frequent urination " on

and off. I've noticed that it usually happens when he's feeling

stressed and is coming down with something.

I hope this helps.

Argie

On Jun 15, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote:

>

>

> Hi, jerri.

>

> Please let me know if you find anything out regarding the issue of

> urinary frequency. My son has been urinating frequently for the last

> two months. We've had several tests for UTIs and nothing. I

> consulted a peds uro and they scoped him and said everything was

> great (he had hypospadias surgery as an infant and we thought

> something had happened to the reconstruction).

>

> I'm so frustrated because he's been potty trained since 3 1/2 and

> all of a sudden we're having accidents.

>

> All the best,

>

> Robyn

>

>

>

> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...>

> Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

>

> Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 8:53 PM

>

> Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I took him to the Dr.

> thinking

> he had a urinary tract infection because he has to pee so often but

> they

> tested him and found nothing but I bet he has a low grade infection

> they

> aren't catching. I doubt hormones, he is 8? How do you get a

> prescription for Cefzil without a definitive reason? Dr. G? I have

> been

> making him drink a lot of fluids and he seems to be improving a

> little.

> I just had a thought. I should give him cranberry juice. Thanks, Jerri

> >

> >

> > When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was

> > dysregulated. Room temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the

> > time, but there was nothing specific causing these. It eventually

> > went away.

> > Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably

> > dealing w/ other dysregulation. I can't remember what it's called,

> > but it is common among the CFIDS group and has a name. Is it HPA

> > axis? The first thing you have control over is the diet, and making

> > sure it's clean during this time could help.

> > This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the

> > first time. Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just

> > seemed a little " off " and I was commenting on this to the

> > pediatrician. Within 3 months after that, he was really starting to

> > show symptoms including fatigue. He was sick for about 8 months,

> then

> > spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that for

> > several months before starting to feel bad again. Once he regressed

> > the second time, I got him back on meds.

> > One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I

> > like Cefzil when there isn't something well-defined because it

> doesn't

> > set things off) and see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable

> > improvement. We can have subtle low grade infections that drag us

> > down and don't ever really manifest themselves, and this test often

> > brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and we never know what

> > the problem was.

> > HTH-

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann% 40sti.net> >

> > <groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>>

> > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

> > Subject: Hot/Cold

> >

> > I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no

> longer a

> > patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He

> has

> > not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp.

> he is

> > either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes

> feels

> > warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing

> and I

> > can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a

> short

> > while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He

> is very

> > fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart

> rather

> > quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher

> and

> > parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year

> off

> > great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> > thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too

> long. He

> > never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway,

> any

> > input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can

> survive

> > the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty

> and

> > getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> > allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> > allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty

> and he's

> > becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is

> now

> > having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> > puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> > against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> > think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever

> have time

> > to respond. Thanks, Jerri

> >

> >

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When our ASO titer goes up, urinary frequency and sometimes the sensation of

needing to go get out of whack too, and it coincides w/my youngest son w/a low

grade sinus infection (almost unnoticable except for behavioral changes and

clearing his throat), and it happens at the same time that the temperature

hot/cold does.

They're definitely connected.

HTH

________________________________

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...>

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:24:28 AM

Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

Hi, jerri.

 

Please let me know if you find anything out regarding the issue of urinary

frequency. My son has been urinating frequently for the last two months. We've

had several tests for UTIs and nothing. I consulted a peds uro and they scoped

him and said everything was great (he had hypospadias surgery as an infant and

we thought something had happened to the reconstruction) .

 

I'm so frustrated because he's been potty trained since 3 1/2 and all of a

sudden we're having accidents.

 

All the best,

 

Robyn

From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...>

Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

groups (DOT) com

Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 8:53 PM

Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I took him to the Dr. thinking

he had a urinary tract infection because he has to pee so often but they

tested him and found nothing but I bet he has a low grade infection they

aren't catching. I doubt hormones, he is 8? How do you get a

prescription for Cefzil without a definitive reason? Dr. G? I have been

making him drink a lot of fluids and he seems to be improving a little.

I just had a thought. I should give him cranberry juice. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

> When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was

> dysregulated. Room temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the

> time, but there was nothing specific causing these. It eventually

> went away.

> Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably

> dealing w/ other dysregulation. I can't remember what it's called,

> but it is common among the CFIDS group and has a name. Is it HPA

> axis? The first thing you have control over is the diet, and making

> sure it's clean during this time could help.

> This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the

> first time. Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just

> seemed a little " off " and I was commenting on this to the

> pediatrician. Within 3 months after that, he was really starting to

> show symptoms including fatigue. He was sick for about 8 months, then

> spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that for

> several months before starting to feel bad again. Once he regressed

> the second time, I got him back on meds.

> One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I

> like Cefzil when there isn't something well-defined because it doesn't

> set things off) and see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable

> improvement. We can have subtle low grade infections that drag us

> down and don't ever really manifest themselves, and this test often

> brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and we never know what

> the problem was.

> HTH-

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann% 40sti.net> >

> <groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>>

> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

> Subject: Hot/Cold

>

> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>

>

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We had an appt. with a urologist today and he said constipation can

cause urinary frequency and to make sure he drinks enough water and to

have a bladder friendly diet. Below where he checked bladder friendly

diet, it says caffeine, colas, carbonation, citrus (mainly oranges and

grapefruits) and chocolate. So I guess this means you eliminate these

from the diet. My son tested clear again for an infection. So I guess

I'll try what he says and see if it helps him. I don't think I'll get a

regular Dr. to give me an antibiotic. Jerri

>

>

> When our ASO titer goes up, urinary frequency and sometimes the

> sensation of needing to go get out of whack too, and it coincides w/my

> youngest son w/a low grade sinus infection (almost unnoticable except

> for behavioral changes and clearing his throat), and it happens at the

> same time that the temperature hot/cold does.

> They're definitely connected.

> HTH

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...

> <mailto:rngcoggs%40sbcglobal.net>>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:24:28 AM

> Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

>

> Hi, jerri.

>

> Please let me know if you find anything out regarding the issue of

> urinary frequency. My son has been urinating frequently for the last

> two months. We've had several tests for UTIs and nothing. I consulted

> a peds uro and they scoped him and said everything was great (he had

> hypospadias surgery as an infant and we thought something had happened

> to the reconstruction) .

>

> I'm so frustrated because he's been potty trained since 3 1/2 and all

> of a sudden we're having accidents.

>

> All the best,

>

> Robyn

>

>

>

> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann%40sti.net>>

> Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 8:53 PM

>

> Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I took him to the Dr. thinking

> he had a urinary tract infection because he has to pee so often but they

> tested him and found nothing but I bet he has a low grade infection they

> aren't catching. I doubt hormones, he is 8? How do you get a

> prescription for Cefzil without a definitive reason? Dr. G? I have been

> making him drink a lot of fluids and he seems to be improving a little.

> I just had a thought. I should give him cranberry juice. Thanks, Jerri

> >

> >

> > When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was

> > dysregulated. Room temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the

> > time, but there was nothing specific causing these. It eventually

> > went away.

> > Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably

> > dealing w/ other dysregulation. I can't remember what it's called,

> > but it is common among the CFIDS group and has a name. Is it HPA

> > axis? The first thing you have control over is the diet, and making

> > sure it's clean during this time could help.

> > This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the

> > first time. Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just

> > seemed a little " off " and I was commenting on this to the

> > pediatrician. Within 3 months after that, he was really starting to

> > show symptoms including fatigue. He was sick for about 8 months, then

> > spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that for

> > several months before starting to feel bad again. Once he regressed

> > the second time, I got him back on meds.

> > One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I

> > like Cefzil when there isn't something well-defined because it doesn't

> > set things off) and see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable

> > improvement. We can have subtle low grade infections that drag us

> > down and don't ever really manifest themselves, and this test often

> > brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and we never know what

> > the problem was.

> > HTH-

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Jerri Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann%40sti.net>

> <mailto:njgann% 40sti.net> >

> > <groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>>

> > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

> > Subject: Hot/Cold

> >

> > I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

> > patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

> > not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

> > either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

> > warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

> > can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

> > while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

> > fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

> > quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

> > parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

> > great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> > thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

> > never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

> > input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

> > the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

> > getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> > allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> > allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

> > becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

> > having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> > puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> > against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> > think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

> > to respond. Thanks, Jerri

> >

> >

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What are foods high in oxalates? Thanks, Jerri

> Is he constipated or having other bowel issues?

>

>

>

> Could he be sensitive to foods high in oxalates?

>

> In some individuals (me), these form tiny crystals that irritate the UT. I,

too, had to have reconstructive surgery on my urethra. Wonder if there is a

connection?

>

>

>

> Kristy

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

> Hot/Cold

>>

>

>

>

>

>> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

>>

>

>

>> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

>>

>

>

>> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

>>

>

>

>> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

>>

>

>

>> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

>>

>

>

>> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

>>

>

>

>> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

>>

>

>

>> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

>>

>

>

>> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

>>

>

>

>> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

>>

>

>

>> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

>>

>

>

>> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

>>

>

>

>> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

>>

>

>

>> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

>>

>

>

>> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

>>

>

>

>> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

>>

>

>

>> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

>>

>

>

>> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

>>

>

>

>> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

>>

>

>

>> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

>>

>

>

>> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

>>

>

>

>> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

>>

>

>

>> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

>>

>

>

>> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>>

>

>

>

>

>>

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It's easiest to do a Google search. There are high, medium and low oxalates

foods.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jerri

Gann

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:36 PM

Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

What are foods high in oxalates? Thanks, Jerri

> Is he constipated or having other bowel issues?

>

>

>

> Could he be sensitive to foods high in oxalates?

>

> In some individuals (me), these form tiny crystals that irritate the UT.

I, too, had to have reconstructive surgery on my urethra. Wonder if there is

a connection?

>

>

>

> Kristy

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

> Hot/Cold

>>

>

>

>

>

>> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

>>

>

>

>> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

>>

>

>

>> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

>>

>

>

>> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

>>

>

>

>> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

>>

>

>

>> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

>>

>

>

>> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

>>

>

>

>> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

>>

>

>

>> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

>>

>

>

>> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

>>

>

>

>> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

>>

>

>

>> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

>>

>

>

>> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

>>

>

>

>> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

>>

>

>

>> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

>>

>

>

>> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

>>

>

>

>> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

>>

>

>

>> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

>>

>

>

>> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

>>

>

>

>> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

>>

>

>

>> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

>>

>

>

>> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

>>

>

>

>> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

>>

>

>

>> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>>

>

>

>

>

>>

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