Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Man...Lana, 75# DB's?! Sheesh. Mine were 20# and the most I can even hold are 35# when I do angle calf raises. I know I hurt it because I was picking them up bent over in a funny angle. It has been 9 hours now and it hasn't gotten any worse that I can tell. Tomorrow is cardio so I'm gonna do it and see. I won't be stupid if it hurts too much..I'll just make it short and stop. (wahhhh...hope not.) So sorry to hear about your suffering. I know you have got to be so dissappointed to have to sit out so long. Keep us posted as to your recovery and YOU don't do anything stupid either...okay?! Kelley Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Geez, Lana, your story sounds a LOT like mine, but I have yet to get to the bottom of my medical mystery. Approximately 2 months ago, I started feeling a strange pulling sensation in my right upper abdomen (right under the rib cage). Some times the pulling sensation would run down in a line to my testicle, some times it would feel like a groin pull. It's not quite a pain, almost feels as if something is swollen inside my abdomen or something is pushing inside my abdomen. In addition, I have a lipoma on my left upper thigh, and recently I've started feeling some muscle pain in my upper thigh. Saw Doctor #1 on July 26th. Doctor #1 didn't seem to think I needed any x-rays or ultrasounds, claimed I had a pulled groin muscle and that was that. Saw Doctor #1 2 more times to get to the bottom of the problem... found out Doctor #1 is an insurance mill doctor, and decided to find someone else. Saw Doctor #2 October 10th. Doctor #2 is board certified in Internal Medicine and Infectious Diseases, and is one of the best doctors in the county. Doctor #2 did extensive probing and poking of my abdomen, gave me a really thorough physical, and determined my problem to be muscular or skeletal. Blood tests indicated no problems. Nothing internal, he claims. Hmm... but no x-rays or ultrasounds recommended. So, here I am, still with this strange pulling feeling in my abdomen and this strange pain in my left leg near the lipoma, and I still don't know what's wrong. I know what it ISN'T, but I still don't know what it is. I'll be seeing my new doctor again tomorrow (all new patients have a baseline EKG taken, which is what I am having done tomorrow), and when I go in I'm gonna say " OK... you told me what it isn't. WHO do I have to see to find out what it is and how to fix it? " . I don't want to be told it's nothing, and then 5 years from now find out I'm dying from a cancer that should have been caught earlier... - Wayne Re: Help for strain > oh god. > You did what I did!! > > Here's my story, and part of the reason I've been quiet lately. > > About a month ago, on my last week of a 12 week series, I was going VERY > heavy. It was calves/back/traps day and I was using 75# dumbells for shrugs > and 75# DB for one leg calf raises. I did this on one of those 2 things I > KNOW. I didn't feel any pain that day, but later that eve, my back started > to hurt and it just got worse and worse and worse. > > I think what happened was not bad form during the exercise, but bad form in > bending over to pick up the DB's. I was VERY careful during shrugs > (squatting to pick up the db's) but I caught myself bending over to pick up > the DB during calf raises and I think that's when I did it. > > I ended up at the chiro a couple times and he cracked me and it slowly got > better (over 10 days). Well, it still felt like something was " just wrong " > with my back, and I started to worry that I had a herniated disk. > > about 10 days ago, I got back from my trip to atlanta. I took my bag and > went to lay it down so I could get my gym stuff out of it and POW, sharp > pain in my lower back. I could barely walk, couldn't lift my legs, couldn't > lay down, couldn't roll over, etc etc. > > Went to the chiro again and he popped me (he said, I couldn't feel it or > hear it). The next day I was WORSE. Called my chiro crying and he said to > go to the regular dr. Called, my DR was out of course, so I cried and > BEGGED *ANYONE* to see me. I got into a new dr. and my dear MIL took me. I > found it interesting that my 81 yo MIL had to offer to put my legs into the > car for me. *sigh*. Well, anyway, they xrayed my back (I wasn't leaving > without one cuz I wanted to KNOW if I'd broken something or if I had a > herniated disk) and it turns out I just pulled my lower back muscles. I > think I'd rather broke my friggin arm tho! > > She gave me pain killers and muscle relaxers which ZZZZZzzzzonk me out. (not > as bad as the first day tho) and told me I wouldn't be lifting for SIX > WEEKS!! ugh!! > She said I could start doing cardio in a week or so, but I've not had a > chance to get up there yet. When I have time, my back hurts too bad, when > my back doesn't hurt, I've had a sick kid at home. Anyway, I WILL be lifing > sooner than 6 weeks, but I don't imagine it will be for a couple more weeks. > > Maybe my body just needed a break. sigh. Anyway, this is the first time in > almost 2 years I've had to take off, and it's the first challenge I truly > couldn't finish > > So my advice Kelley? Get to the DR and get some drugs, take a few days off > til you get to the DR too. And no straight leg deads (that makes me hurt > thinking about it atm, and it's one of those things i'm really *good* at.) > > Lana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 I hope you heal very fast! Glad to hear you went to the doctor. Some people are too stubborn to do that and it only gets worse. Andy > oh god. > You did what I did!! > > Here's my story, and part of the reason I've been quiet lately. > > About a month ago, on my last week of a 12 week series, I was going VERY > heavy. It was calves/back/traps day and I was using 75# dumbells for shrugs > and 75# DB for one leg calf raises. I did this on one of those 2 things I > KNOW. I didn't feel any pain that day, but later that eve, my back started > to hurt and it just got worse and worse and worse. > > I think what happened was not bad form during the exercise, but bad form in > bending over to pick up the DB's. I was VERY careful during shrugs > (squatting to pick up the db's) but I caught myself bending over to pick up > the DB during calf raises and I think that's when I did it. > > I ended up at the chiro a couple times and he cracked me and it slowly got > better (over 10 days). Well, it still felt like something was " just wrong " > with my back, and I started to worry that I had a herniated disk. > > about 10 days ago, I got back from my trip to atlanta. I took my bag and > went to lay it down so I could get my gym stuff out of it and POW, sharp > pain in my lower back. I could barely walk, couldn't lift my legs, couldn't > lay down, couldn't roll over, etc etc. > > Went to the chiro again and he popped me (he said, I couldn't feel it or > hear it). The next day I was WORSE. Called my chiro crying and he said to > go to the regular dr. Called, my DR was out of course, so I cried and > BEGGED *ANYONE* to see me. I got into a new dr. and my dear MIL took me. I > found it interesting that my 81 yo MIL had to offer to put my legs into the > car for me. *sigh*. Well, anyway, they xrayed my back (I wasn't leaving > without one cuz I wanted to KNOW if I'd broken something or if I had a > herniated disk) and it turns out I just pulled my lower back muscles. I > think I'd rather broke my friggin arm tho! > > She gave me pain killers and muscle relaxers which ZZZZZzzzzonk me out. (not > as bad as the first day tho) and told me I wouldn't be lifting for SIX > WEEKS!! ugh!! > She said I could start doing cardio in a week or so, but I've not had a > chance to get up there yet. When I have time, my back hurts too bad, when > my back doesn't hurt, I've had a sick kid at home. Anyway, I WILL be lifing > sooner than 6 weeks, but I don't imagine it will be for a couple more weeks. > > Maybe my body just needed a break. sigh. Anyway, this is the first time in > almost 2 years I've had to take off, and it's the first challenge I truly > couldn't finish > > So my advice Kelley? Get to the DR and get some drugs, take a few days off > til you get to the DR too. And no straight leg deads (that makes me hurt > thinking about it atm, and it's one of those things i'm really *good* at.) > > Lana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Hi there , Firstly, as always, I'm not a doctor... and this information is worth exactly what you've paid for it. I manage to sprain/strain my shoulder/upper back area quite frequently. A long time ago when I did more serious lifting a sports-physician gave me the following advice. If the pain is sharp, stop whatever you're doing, and see a doctor. If the pain is dull, or stretching seems to help, well, strech, take some ibuprofen 3 times a day for 3 days after meals and go about business as close to usual as you can. Hope you recover quickly ! Niel C1W9ish somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Oooh *cringes*. Sympathy ouch's to both and Lana. Nothing worse than not being able to do what you love doing. If there is a qualified Accupressure therapist in your area you might want to try that. Some physiotherapists may provide it. Accupressure is like accupuncture and works on the same principles, but without the needles if needles freak you out hehe. The whole idea is to unblock the pathways of qi or ch'i that has locked up the muscles in that area. I know it sounds a bit strange )... but it really works. Hurts when he does it though, as he applies quite intense finger pressure to the area, but the effect is pretty swift and you only need 1 or 2 sessions. It's excellent for rapid recovery of sports injuries, RSI, carpal tunnel syndrome and neck and head aches and pains. It's become very popular along with accupuncture, here in New Zealand where we have a lot of sports related injuries. Hope it can help, Cat Re: Help for strain > oh god. > You did what I did!! > > Here's my story, and part of the reason I've been quiet lately. > > About a month ago, on my last week of a 12 week series, I was going VERY > heavy. It was calves/back/traps day and I was using 75# dumbells for shrugs > and 75# DB for one leg calf raises. I did this on one of those 2 things I > KNOW. I didn't feel any pain that day, but later that eve, my back started > to hurt and it just got worse and worse and worse. > > I think what happened was not bad form during the exercise, but bad form in > bending over to pick up the DB's. I was VERY careful during shrugs > (squatting to pick up the db's) but I caught myself bending over to pick up > the DB during calf raises and I think that's when I did it. > > I ended up at the chiro a couple times and he cracked me and it slowly got > better (over 10 days). Well, it still felt like something was " just wrong " > with my back, and I started to worry that I had a herniated disk. > > about 10 days ago, I got back from my trip to atlanta. I took my bag and > went to lay it down so I could get my gym stuff out of it and POW, sharp > pain in my lower back. I could barely walk, couldn't lift my legs, couldn't > lay down, couldn't roll over, etc etc. > > Went to the chiro again and he popped me (he said, I couldn't feel it or > hear it). The next day I was WORSE. Called my chiro crying and he said to > go to the regular dr. Called, my DR was out of course, so I cried and > BEGGED *ANYONE* to see me. I got into a new dr. and my dear MIL took me. I > found it interesting that my 81 yo MIL had to offer to put my legs into the > car for me. *sigh*. Well, anyway, they xrayed my back (I wasn't leaving > without one cuz I wanted to KNOW if I'd broken something or if I had a > herniated disk) and it turns out I just pulled my lower back muscles. I > think I'd rather broke my friggin arm tho! > > She gave me pain killers and muscle relaxers which ZZZZZzzzzonk me out. (not > as bad as the first day tho) and told me I wouldn't be lifting for SIX > WEEKS!! ugh!! > She said I could start doing cardio in a week or so, but I've not had a > chance to get up there yet. When I have time, my back hurts too bad, when > my back doesn't hurt, I've had a sick kid at home. Anyway, I WILL be lifing > sooner than 6 weeks, but I don't imagine it will be for a couple more weeks. > > Maybe my body just needed a break. sigh. Anyway, this is the first time in > almost 2 years I've had to take off, and it's the first challenge I truly > couldn't finish > > So my advice Kelley? Get to the DR and get some drugs, take a few days off > til you get to the DR too. And no straight leg deads (that makes me hurt > thinking about it atm, and it's one of those things i'm really *good* at.) > > Lana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 In a message dated 10/24/2002 5:59:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, hyjinx@... writes: > If there is a qualified Accupressure therapist in your area you > might want to try that. Some physiotherapists may provide it. > Accupressure is like accupuncture and works on the same > principles, but without the needles if needles freak you out hehe. > > The whole idea is to unblock the pathways of qi or ch'i that has > locked up the muscles in that area. I know it sounds a bit > strange )... but it really works. Hurts when he does it though, > as he applies quite intense finger pressure to the area, but the > effect is pretty swift and you only need 1 or 2 sessions. > Hi Cat, It doesn't sound strange to me. I am one of those people who have been exposed to alternative medicin since I was a kid so it is all very normal to me. I had an hour appointment with my personal massotherapist...who also happens to be my husband...who noted that I have something out in my lumbar region. My sacrum is higher on the left than the right so it is torqued. I will be seeing a man that does non-traditional structural adjustments today or tomorrow. He will get things back where they should be...then my body can take it from there. Just sitting on an icepack. Probably will skip the cardio for today and see how I feel after the adjustment. Thanks for ya'lls support and feedback. Wayne...I was hoping since I hadn't heard anything for a while that your mystery problem had gotten resolved. Sorry that it has not. I think sometimes we can know if there is something seriously wrong inside of our bodie if we tune into our inner senses. If your inner sense is that something is seriously wrong even though the doctors are not alerted by your symptoms, then assert yourself as agressively as you need to. Doctors forget to listen to the most informed source of information...the patient. Let the doctor know you know your body and you absolutely know something is wrong and you will not stop until you have found out what it is. When a doctor hears the full intent of your desires they are more inclined to shift their position on direction of treatment. Good luck. Kelley Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Wow I missed this one Wayne, I hope you find out what it is and that whatever it is, it us easily fixed. good luck Bill > Geez, Lana, your story sounds a LOT like mine, but I have yet to get to the > bottom of my medical mystery. > > Approximately 2 months ago, I started feeling a strange pulling sensation in > my right upper abdomen (right under the rib cage). Some times the pulling > sensation would run down in a line to my testicle, some times it would feel > like a groin pull. It's not quite a pain, almost feels as if something is > swollen inside my abdomen or something is pushing inside my abdomen. In > addition, I have a lipoma on my left upper thigh, and recently I've started > feeling some muscle pain in my upper thigh. > > Saw Doctor #1 on July 26th. Doctor #1 didn't seem to think I needed any > x-rays or ultrasounds, claimed I had a pulled groin muscle and that was > that. Saw Doctor #1 2 more times to get to the bottom of the problem... > found out Doctor #1 is an insurance mill doctor, and decided to find someone > else. > > Saw Doctor #2 October 10th. Doctor #2 is board certified in Internal > Medicine and Infectious Diseases, and is one of the best doctors in the > county. Doctor #2 did extensive probing and poking of my abdomen, gave me a > really thorough physical, and determined my problem to be muscular or > skeletal. Blood tests indicated no problems. Nothing internal, he claims. > Hmm... but no x-rays or ultrasounds recommended. > > So, here I am, still with this strange pulling feeling in my abdomen and > this strange pain in my left leg near the lipoma, and I still don't know > what's wrong. I know what it ISN'T, but I still don't know what it is. > I'll be seeing my new doctor again tomorrow (all new patients have a > baseline EKG taken, which is what I am having done tomorrow), and when I go > in I'm gonna say " OK... you told me what it isn't. WHO do I have to see to > find out what it is and how to fix it? " . > > I don't want to be told it's nothing, and then 5 years from now find out I'm > dying from a cancer that should have been caught earlier... > > - Wayne > > Re: Help for strain > > > > oh god. > > You did what I did!! > > > > Here's my story, and part of the reason I've been quiet lately. > > > > About a month ago, on my last week of a 12 week series, I was going VERY > > heavy. It was calves/back/traps day and I was using 75# dumbells for > shrugs > > and 75# DB for one leg calf raises. I did this on one of those 2 things I > > KNOW. I didn't feel any pain that day, but later that eve, my back > started > > to hurt and it just got worse and worse and worse. > > > > I think what happened was not bad form during the exercise, but bad form > in > > bending over to pick up the DB's. I was VERY careful during shrugs > > (squatting to pick up the db's) but I caught myself bending over to pick > up > > the DB during calf raises and I think that's when I did it. > > > > I ended up at the chiro a couple times and he cracked me and it slowly got > > better (over 10 days). Well, it still felt like something was " just > wrong " > > with my back, and I started to worry that I had a herniated disk. > > > > about 10 days ago, I got back from my trip to atlanta. I took my bag and > > went to lay it down so I could get my gym stuff out of it and POW, sharp > > pain in my lower back. I could barely walk, couldn't lift my legs, > couldn't > > lay down, couldn't roll over, etc etc. > > > > Went to the chiro again and he popped me (he said, I couldn't feel it or > > hear it). The next day I was WORSE. Called my chiro crying and he said > to > > go to the regular dr. Called, my DR was out of course, so I cried and > > BEGGED *ANYONE* to see me. I got into a new dr. and my dear MIL took me. > I > > found it interesting that my 81 yo MIL had to offer to put my legs into > the > > car for me. *sigh*. Well, anyway, they xrayed my back (I wasn't leaving > > without one cuz I wanted to KNOW if I'd broken something or if I had a > > herniated disk) and it turns out I just pulled my lower back muscles. I > > think I'd rather broke my friggin arm tho! > > > > She gave me pain killers and muscle relaxers which ZZZZZzzzzonk me out. > (not > > as bad as the first day tho) and told me I wouldn't be lifting for SIX > > WEEKS!! ugh!! > > She said I could start doing cardio in a week or so, but I've not had a > > chance to get up there yet. When I have time, my back hurts too bad, when > > my back doesn't hurt, I've had a sick kid at home. Anyway, I WILL be > lifing > > sooner than 6 weeks, but I don't imagine it will be for a couple more > weeks. > > > > Maybe my body just needed a break. sigh. Anyway, this is the first time > in > > almost 2 years I've had to take off, and it's the first challenge I truly > > couldn't finish > > > > So my advice Kelley? Get to the DR and get some drugs, take a few days > off > > til you get to the DR too. And no straight leg deads (that makes me hurt > > thinking about it atm, and it's one of those things i'm really *good* at.) > > > > Lana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Ouch Kelley! I'm late to this party, but wanted to say that I hope you are feeling better by now. Also, to Lana (my sweetie pie) sorry you're laid up with the bum back, that really sucks. Maybe your bod really *did* need that break and this is just it's way of letting you know. Hope you are feeling better really soon! Wayne, let us know how the Dr.'s visit goes, we are all hoping that it turns out to be nothing. *hugs* to all of ya Jen B. > Good morgan to ya. > > Did LBW this morning and appears I have strained something in my left lower > back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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