Re: Re: Fearful thinking /Jan/tapes

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Would you describe the tapes you are listening to and possibly make some

recommendations for a " beginner " ?

Thanks, Rupert.

Re: Fearful thinking /Jan

> Hi Jan,

>

> You are exactly right.

> I learned a lot from Eckhart Tolle.

>

> By the way, have we met before in the Eckhart

> Tolle " The Now " discussion group?

>

> My real name is Eva- (although, Elli =

> beth is also my real name. I am a Catholic

> and Catholics usually have several first names

> here in Germany, where I live). So maybe you

> remember the name Eva?

>

> I have recently bought the book " Loving What Is "

> by Byron and I am studying it now. I am

> interested in finding out how other people use

> that method...so I joined this group a week ago

> or so.

>

Hi Elli, I began a search for something, I wasn't sure what, almost

two years ago and somewhere along the line I found Tolle's book and

thought it was wondeful. I re-read it many times and listened to his CDs.

Tolle explains a lot and prescribes just a little. I still practice

more body awareness than I ever did and am thankful for his book as I

got myself through a difficult period with it.

But to me, Tolle is one more religion, one more set of beliefs. And I

am not a " religious " person.

On this path, I read many, many " spiritual " type books and somehow

bought 's book through finding it on Amazon.

One of the books I went through was from a Zen Buddhist as I recall,

and she said that it's easy to be enlightened for awhile, but then

someone gives you the finger at a stoplight or your kids scream at you

and then it's really, really hard.

" Following " Tolle, I didn't feel all that much better about myself. In

fact I felt worse sometimes. I had this terrible " egoic " mind and

thoughts that wouldn't shut off. Occasionally I did have a few moments

of " no mind " and I had some wonderful bodily experiences but they felt

a little like a mental Disneyland rather than a way of life.

So I spotted Loving What Is on my big, growing pile of books. At the

time, the picture on the cover put me off somehow but I knew someday

I'd read the book, it just looked too good. A few months later I did

read it and have been diligently applying the work to my life ever

since. I have purchased numerous tapes and listened again and again.

Whenever I am in the car by myself, or when I travel on business, I

listen to the tapes.

I try to decipher each statement makes and I feel richer and

richer. I do the work every time a difficulty or painful time ensues.

Today, I am doing the work on a moderator on a weightlifting forum I

frequent. He deleted a perfectly good post I made, and has done so in

the past. I am angry about it and it has been going around and around

in my mind since yesterday. What does that say about me? A lot, and

I'll find out soon.

I am eager to know the truth about myself from this work. That is what

I love about the work. It is about me, my real life, and I look at it

as a few simple techniques that help me realize me better and more

fully. Because of my work, I am less and less anxious and when things

happen to me they are no longer the bad " problems " they used to be.

I am an entrepreneur and I used to live perpetually in the future.

Tolle alerted me to this condition, but through the work I have been

more and more present.

with love

--

[Guest guest]

The tapes are from www.thework.org

I recommend The Work on Relationships, Addiction, really any of them.

They consist of dialogs, people doing the work with Byron . They

are a fantastic way that I learn more. I learn a lot from the people and

both.

--

Rupert Oysler wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Would you describe the tapes you are listening to and possibly make some

recommendations for a " beginner " ?

>

> Thanks, Rupert.

> Re: Fearful thinking /Jan

>

>

> > Hi Jan,

> >

> > You are exactly right.

> > I learned a lot from Eckhart Tolle.

> >

> > By the way, have we met before in the Eckhart

> > Tolle " The Now " discussion group?

> >

> > My real name is Eva- (although, Elli =

> > beth is also my real name. I am a Catholic

> > and Catholics usually have several first names

> > here in Germany, where I live). So maybe you

> > remember the name Eva?

> >

> > I have recently bought the book " Loving What Is "

> > by Byron and I am studying it now. I am

> > interested in finding out how other people use

> > that method...so I joined this group a week ago

> > or so.

> >

>

> Hi Elli, I began a search for something, I wasn't sure what, almost

> two years ago and somewhere along the line I found Tolle's book and

> thought it was wondeful. I re-read it many times and listened to his CDs.

>

> Tolle explains a lot and prescribes just a little. I still practice

> more body awareness than I ever did and am thankful for his book as I

> got myself through a difficult period with it.

>

> But to me, Tolle is one more religion, one more set of beliefs. And I

> am not a " religious " person.

>

> On this path, I read many, many " spiritual " type books and somehow

> bought 's book through finding it on Amazon.

>

> One of the books I went through was from a Zen Buddhist as I recall,

> and she said that it's easy to be enlightened for awhile, but then

> someone gives you the finger at a stoplight or your kids scream at you

> and then it's really, really hard.

>

> " Following " Tolle, I didn't feel all that much better about myself. In

> fact I felt worse sometimes. I had this terrible " egoic " mind and

> thoughts that wouldn't shut off. Occasionally I did have a few moments

> of " no mind " and I had some wonderful bodily experiences but they felt

> a little like a mental Disneyland rather than a way of life.

>

> So I spotted Loving What Is on my big, growing pile of books. At the

> time, the picture on the cover put me off somehow but I knew someday

> I'd read the book, it just looked too good. A few months later I did

> read it and have been diligently applying the work to my life ever

> since. I have purchased numerous tapes and listened again and again.

>

> Whenever I am in the car by myself, or when I travel on business, I

> listen to the tapes.

>

> I try to decipher each statement makes and I feel richer and

> richer. I do the work every time a difficulty or painful time ensues.

>

> Today, I am doing the work on a moderator on a weightlifting forum I

> frequent. He deleted a perfectly good post I made, and has done so in

> the past. I am angry about it and it has been going around and around

> in my mind since yesterday. What does that say about me? A lot, and

> I'll find out soon.

>

> I am eager to know the truth about myself from this work. That is what

> I love about the work. It is about me, my real life, and I look at it

> as a few simple techniques that help me realize me better and more

> fully. Because of my work, I am less and less anxious and when things

> happen to me they are no longer the bad " problems " they used to be.

>

> I am an entrepreneur and I used to live perpetually in the future.

> Tolle alerted me to this condition, but through the work I have been

> more and more present.

>

> with love

>

> --

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am astounded that some deep secrets popped up vibrantly in separate (

geographically , chronologically , culturally , and + ) situations

but equal in innocence and purity of simplicity . I have been

associated with at least 17 years a movement of Australian origin begun

by people after the ravages of severe and often punitive mental

illnesses and mental health systems in the 1950 ' s . The first

findings were a principle of personal value and the four qualities and

the four stabilizing questions

..

# 1 . Is it true ?

# 1 . What exactly am I troubled

about ? Quality : Be Definite ( known for

certain ...

not an

hallucination , etc . )

# 2 . Can you absolutely know that it ' s true ?

#2 . Is it certain , probable or only possible ? Quality : to

become Rational

( process it , etc . )

#3 . How do you react when you think that thought ? Quality : go

inside # 3 . How

important is it ? Quality : Be Wise go inside ( Get the attitude ...

which refuses to

turn any

relatively

important thing into

an absolute

central objective ..

etc . )

# 4 . Who would you be without the thought ? Quality : can you give

yourself the medicine that # 4 . What should I do about it

? Quality : " Would I like it ? " is relatively

you have been prescribing for others ?

)

unimportant and must be put aside

As we say in our movement ...

the

world ' s best

medicine won ' t

benefit you if you

come close to it

but don ' t take it

! ) .

Both work , both are grass roots ... the movement isin ' t out for

hire !

On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 12:47 PM, Rupert Oysler wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Would you describe the tapes you are listening to and possibly make

> some recommendations for a " beginner " ?

>

> Thanks, Rupert.

> Re: Fearful thinking /Jan

>

>

>> Hi Jan,

>>

>> You are exactly right.

>> I learned a lot from Eckhart Tolle.

>>

>> By the way, have we met before in the Eckhart

>> Tolle " The Now " discussion group?

>>

>> My real name is Eva- (although, Elli =

>> beth is also my real name. I am a Catholic

>> and Catholics usually have several first names

>> here in Germany, where I live). So maybe you

>> remember the name Eva?

>>

>> I have recently bought the book " Loving What Is "

>> by Byron and I am studying it now. I am

>> interested in finding out how other people use

>> that method...so I joined this group a week ago

>> or so.

>>

>

> Hi Elli, I began a search for something, I wasn't sure what, almost

> two years ago and somewhere along the line I found Tolle's book and

> thought it was wondeful. I re-read it many times and listened to his

> CDs.

>

> Tolle explains a lot and prescribes just a little. I still practice

> more body awareness than I ever did and am thankful for his book as I

> got myself through a difficult period with it.

>

> But to me, Tolle is one more religion, one more set of beliefs. And I

> am not a " religious " person.

>

> On this path, I read many, many " spiritual " type books and somehow

> bought 's book through finding it on Amazon.

>

> One of the books I went through was from a Zen Buddhist as I recall,

> and she said that it's easy to be enlightened for awhile, but then

> someone gives you the finger at a stoplight or your kids scream at

> you

> and then it's really, really hard.

>

> " Following " Tolle, I didn't feel all that much better about myself.

> In

> fact I felt worse sometimes. I had this terrible " egoic " mind and

> thoughts that wouldn't shut off. Occasionally I did have a few

> moments

> of " no mind " and I had some wonderful bodily experiences but they

> felt

> a little like a mental Disneyland rather than a way of life.

>

> So I spotted Loving What Is on my big, growing pile of books. At the

> time, the picture on the cover put me off somehow but I knew someday

> I'd read the book, it just looked too good. A few months later I did

> read it and have been diligently applying the work to my life ever

> since. I have purchased numerous tapes and listened again and again.

>

> Whenever I am in the car by myself, or when I travel on business, I

> listen to the tapes.

>

> I try to decipher each statement makes and I feel richer and

> richer. I do the work every time a difficulty or painful time ensues.

>

> Today, I am doing the work on a moderator on a weightlifting forum I

> frequent. He deleted a perfectly good post I made, and has done so in

> the past. I am angry about it and it has been going around and around

> in my mind since yesterday. What does that say about me? A lot, and

> I'll find out soon.

>

> I am eager to know the truth about myself from this work. That is

> what

> I love about the work. It is about me, my real life, and I look at it

> as a few simple techniques that help me realize me better and more

> fully. Because of my work, I am less and less anxious and when things

> happen to me they are no longer the bad " problems " they used to be.

>

> I am an entrepreneur and I used to live perpetually in the future.

> Tolle alerted me to this condition, but through the work I have been

> more and more present.

>

> with love

>

> --

>

>

>