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The general answer for why insurance companies dump docs is that these docs are costing them too much money, running too many tests, spending more than 7 minutes with each patient. BC BS is evidently the worst one. We think he got dumped because he would not send his patients to Labcorp.

>> well poo thats not good news, her plan has a 5000 deductable and I am pretty sure it started over on the first of the year.........any idea of the cost, maybe she could just pay outright and do you know why they dumped him? I hate insurance companies...they sure want our money but they dont want you to need them! > > > Re: Re: Armour Good News!> > No BC-BS, at least not most plans. They dumped him.

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It's just the first visit with Dr. R. that's overnight. There's a long consultation the first day then you stay overnight and have blood drawn at his office in the morning. After that labs can be done where she lives. She might have to go two or three times the first year and probably less after that.

Do you know if she's had adrenal testing, Cortisol test??? Dr. Launius doesn't treat adrenals. Dr. R. does. I'm a little concerned some of her symptoms sound like adrenals.

Carol

> > >> > > Sorry to butt in but I have been on this site for a week now > researching for my Sister who has severe graves, I went to the link > http://www.drlowe.com/#Search%20Engine that Jan kindly provided and > have been reading most of the afternoon ( my head is spinning) I just > wanted to say thanks for everyones input, this disease is so > complicated I am having trouble trying to sort it out and I am not > even sick..I dont know how you ladies cope! and it is amazing how > many docs dont seem to know their you know what from a hole in the > ground ( as Mom used to say) , but anyone new to here should > definately check that link out lots of great info there. > > > > > > I am trying to complile a list of tests my Sis should be asking > her Dr for, she is only on Synthroid ight now and I think from the > symptons she is dealing with and reading here that she is dealing > with a lot more issues than she thought.> > > > > > But you all give us hope that she can get to feeling better if we > can just get her a new Doc that has a brain!> > > > > > Anyway thanks for all info> > > Darla> >> > > > > >

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Darla, you are certainly a thoughtful and caring sister. It's so hard

for family to watch and feel so helpless about a loved one who is

ill. And when the illness is so complex and the doctors seem so

clueless, it's even worse. She is very lucky to have you in her

corner.

The first visit is a long consult, probably 60-90 minutes, and

requires an overnight for a blood draw 8am the next morning. A lot of

hotels are very close to their office. It's really easy to get around

there. Some places offer medical rates, but I can't remember which

ones. Then you must return two weeks later for the readout of labs

and another 60-90 minute consult. You cover everything under the sun

about the lab results and how everything is connected and you get the

meds plan and other parts of the regimen. The next follow up

timeframe varies for everyone. You can get the labs done locally

before the rest of your visits, and they send the results to Lubbock.

I went back in 6 month intervals twice. Some folks have gone back in

3 months. After that, it still varies depending on your individual

needs. I've been back on 9 month follow ups. My DH is on a 12 month

follow up. We stayed overnight the first few visits, but when I got

better, we just started doing a one day drive out and back. I think

we should have just done that from the beginning, as it would have

better to get back to my own bed.

Yes, the time, effort and cost are always a consideration and hard to

grapple with, but what is the alternative if you don't get the right

things properly addressed all at the same time? Possibly getting

sicker, spending more money and time and energy chasing one doctor

after another, not being able to get back to earning a living, and

not having some kind of quality to your life with your family and

friends.

Maybe I typed it wrong, but it's supposed to be TTG for Texas Thyroid

Group. We have face to face meetings in different cities from time to

time. Our last one in Dallas was a few months ago and I don't know if

Jan is thinking about another one soon. We usually go to a place like

Whole Foods or a chain restaurant where we can sit and talk. I can't

remember if there is a group in Fort Worth.

That is just appalling about the doctor's comments to your sister.

You would not believe what a difference it is to sit across from a

doctor who understands, has sympathy, and is so smart. I don't know

if anyone has mentioned this, but he is hypothyroid himself, his wife

is Hashi and was deathly ill but is going great guns now, and they

have a child who is hypo, too. This is a physician who really

understands.

This is a tough disease, for sure.

(((hugs)))

Sara

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> Sara I appreciate your comments, believe me I spent the better part

of an hour trying to convince her today to go to Lubbock as I see

from all of the ladies here I definately think it would be the best

thing for her, she has blue cross insurance , does anyone know if he

accepts it, I am going to call her tomorrow and read your e mail to

her, I would take off work and drive her out if it will make her

better, she is kinda hard headed her argument was the time, effort

and cost , you said you drive out and back in one day is that enough

time I read here that you need to go for a couple of days for testing

and results...that might sway her if everyhing she will need done

could be done in one day...and what is a TIG meeting, are they going

to have one in our area any time soon, I think it would be awesome if

she could meet and actually talk to some of you experiencing the same

thing she is...I just feel so helpless, she is my baby sister and I

just want her to feel better, talking to her and hearing the

exhaustion in her voice just breaks my heart.....I think you are

right she has just been through so much this year and it has been so

frustrating to have these incompetent uninformed Drs, the one she is

seeing now is more worried about being sued than he is about her

felling better ( endo that wants all done by the numbers) he doesnt

care how bad she feels, he told her she would just have to adjust to

it, what a crock! makes me so mad! sorry ..anyway I will let you

know what she says after I read you message to her.

>

> Thanks Darla

>

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It sounds like what she has is a High Deductible plan. If so, that deductible applies to everything including drugs. Folks with those plans are allowed to have Medical Savings Accounts, which are funded with pre-tax dollars, much like flexible spending accounts, except that you can roll the balance over from one year to the next.

>> Let me ask, do you think that deductible may be for in-hospital stays only, not for office visits, etc....? If so, this would make a big difference.> >

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Here's a link to an introductory article on About.com thyroid:

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/endocrinology/a/adrenalfatigue.htm

There's a lot more information there, you can search the site for 'adrenal'. These are complicated medical conditions and not easy to understand. Just look at all the supposedly smart doctors who don't understand it.

Your sister has a legal right to her medical records from this doctor or any other. Here's a link to the Texas Medical Board about how to obtain records:

http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/consumers/faq/mrec.php

Carol

> > > >> > > > Sorry to butt in but I have been on this site for a week now > > researching for my Sister who has severe graves, I went to the link > > http://www.drlowe.com/#Search%20Engine that Jan kindly provided and > > have been reading most of the afternoon ( my head is spinning) I just > > wanted to say thanks for everyones input, this disease is so > > complicated I am having trouble trying to sort it out and I am not > > even sick..I dont know how you ladies cope! and it is amazing how > > many docs dont seem to know their you know what from a hole in the > > ground ( as Mom used to say) , but anyone new to here should > > definately check that link out lots of great info there. > > > > > > > > I am trying to complile a list of tests my Sis should be asking > > her Dr for, she is only on Synthroid ight now and I think from the > > symptons she is dealing with and reading here that she is dealing > > with a lot more issues than she thought.> > > > > > > > But you all give us hope that she can get to feeling better if we > > can just get her a new Doc that has a brain!> > > > > > > > Anyway thanks for all info> > > > Darla> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

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ME too! I laughed for days, what gal! what nerve!

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> Actually, he did not tell me that. I read it in the database on our

> site. He told my internist to increase my $ynthroid because my TSH

> needed to be suppressed, as I am a thyca patient. When I asked

about all

> the different thyroid hormones, he explained that T4 converts to

T3, and

> you don't need anything else.

>

> Then I called Walgreens and asked the pharmacist if there was a

thyroid

> medication with all of the thyroid hormones. Yes. There is Armour. I

> called my internist and asked for an Rx for Armour. He told me flat

no

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Perhaps a little astrophysics between patients?

Only 3 hours left? Well, I guess we should be glad for that 3 hours or

we would have all been in serious trouble...

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> Dr. R was three hours shy of a math degree too! Odd people that we

are, we used to like to work calculus problems because they were fun

and relaxing!

>

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That's great news, Kim. Amazing you've been able to hold up through

this.

Sara

>

> I am very thankful that my daughter should have a very good

recovery. We're not sure of the chronic pain but it looks like she is

going to get most of her leg function back.

>

> Kim

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