Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Great news!!! My Dr.'s nurse here in Houston called me back about increasing my Armour doseage and she agreed to increase it to 2 of the 60mg/day. I asked if it came in 120mg and she said the pharmacist told her she could fill it for 120. I'm so excited about that!!! I have felt a lot better since I began doubling up on my Armour! Not as near as fatigued and my memory seems a bit more intact! The Dr. is going to fax me my labs today, and I will post those on here as soon as I get them. I am on a list of vitamins, to help with my weight loss and overall health. So far I am taking CLA, cinnamon, L-lysine, 5-HTP, EFA's, a liquid multi-vitamin, and just began taking coconut oil and drinking Kombucha tea. Are there any other vitamins/supplements that you ladies could recommend that helps? Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed?> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Make sure you are getting brand name Armour by Forest. There has been a shortage of all doses except for the 30s and 60s. Ask your doc to write or specify "Brand Medically Necessary". Then check your pills before you leave the pharmacy. Look in Photos on our site. There is a whole folder of pill images. Garduno wrote: Great news!!! My Dr.'s nurse here in Houston called me back about increasing my Armour doseage and she agreed to increase it to 2 of the 60mg/day. I asked if it came in 120mg and she said the pharmacist told her she could fill it for 120. I'm so excited about that!!! I have felt a lot better since I began doubling up on my Armour! Not as near as fatigued and my memory seems a bit more intact! The Dr. is going to fax me my labs today, and I will post those on here as soon as I get them. I am on a list of vitamins, to help with my weight loss and overall health. So far I am taking CLA, cinnamon, L-lysine, 5-HTP, EFA's, a liquid multi-vitamin, and just began taking coconut oil and drinking Kombucha tea. Are there any other vitamins/supplements that you ladies could recommend that helps? Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Thanks, I may just call the pharmacy and tell them that I want the Armour brand only. I know one of the pharmacist there and she also has hypothyroid and takes Armour, so I'm betting she will understand. Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hi , Who is your doctor in Houston? I hope I didn’t already ask you this. My memory is shot. I guess I don’t have to explain. J Melody Re: Armour Good News! Great news!!! My Dr.'s nurse here in Houston called me back about increasing my Armour doseage and she agreed to increase it to 2 of the 60mg/day. I asked if it came in 120mg and she said the pharmacist told her she could fill it for 120. I'm so excited about that!!! I have felt a lot better since I began doubling up on my Armour! Not as near as fatigued and my memory seems a bit more intact! The Dr. is going to fax me my labs today, and I will post those on here as soon as I get them. I am on a list of vitamins, to help with my weight loss and overall health. So far I am taking CLA, cinnamon, L-lysine, 5-HTP, EFA's, a liquid multi-vitamin, and just began taking coconut oil and drinking Kombucha tea. Are there any other vitamins/supplements that you ladies could recommend that helps? Re: Newbie Introduction! T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days. Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below. " T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate. T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it. " http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.php Correct me on any of this if the info is not in line. Sara > > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out. > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Sorry to double post...I called the pharmacy and they said it is the brand name Armour, and that the prescription is for 2 60mg once a day. I asked her if there would be a difference between taking 2 of them and just having it filled for 120mg and she said it's the same thing. So, I think I'll go ahead and fill the current order and wait until my next appt to change it to 120mg. Thanks for letting me know about the brand! Also, Jan, do you want to add my Dr. to your list of Dr's who prescribe Armour in Houston? Thanks again! Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hmmm...maybe you should find out who that pharmacist's doctor is, just for everybody's information. Carol > >> > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the > results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me > and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday > to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on > Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call > again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, > am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on > me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg > prescribed?> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Many of us take our Armour twice a day. You might find it works well for you too and want to keep the Rx for 60mg. Carol > >> > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the > results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me > and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday > to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on > Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call > again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, > am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on > me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg > prescribed?> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hi Melody, No, don't worry, you haven't asked me! LOL! But, I know what you mean, I'm a space cadet most of the time! My Dr. is Tina Corkran, she's a Family Dr. located in the Champions area. She was hesitant at first to prescribe the armour, but I was very adament about having it, and now that she has seen that I feel better than I did when I was on levothyroxine, she's become more of a supporter. She's very down to earth and easy to talk to. Let me know if you need more info. Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed?> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 PLEASE! I prefer women doctors and I’d love to know I was going to one you already “broke in” LOL Re: Armour Good News! Hi Melody, No, don't worry, you haven't asked me! LOL! But, I know what you mean, I'm a space cadet most of the time! My Dr. is Tina Corkran, she's a Family Dr. located in the Champions area. She was hesitant at first to prescribe the armour, but I was very adament about having it, and now that she has seen that I feel better than I did when I was on levothyroxine, she's become more of a supporter. She's very down to earth and easy to talk to. Let me know if you need more info. Re: Newbie Introduction! T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days. Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below. " T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate. T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it. " http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.php Correct me on any of this if the info is not in line. Sara > > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out. > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Dr. R. prescribes divided doses of varying, increasing amounts individual for each patient. Carol > > >> > > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the > > results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me > > and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday > > to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on > > Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call > > again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > > > > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, > > am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on > > me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg > > prescribed?> > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 , Who are your seeing in Houston? Make sure you discuss your vitamin/supplements with your doctor. Kate G At 10:45 AM 1/28/2008, you wrote: >Great news!!! My Dr.'s nurse here in Houston called me back about >increasing my Armour doseage and she agreed to increase it to 2 of the >60mg/day. I asked if it came in 120mg and she said the pharmacist told >her she could fill it for 120. I'm so excited about that!!! I have felt >a lot better since I began doubling up on my Armour! Not as near as >fatigued and my memory seems a bit more intact! > >The Dr. is going to fax me my labs today, and I will post those on here as >soon as I get them. I am on a list of vitamins, to help with my weight >loss and overall health. So far I am taking CLA, cinnamon, L-lysine, >5-HTP, EFA's, a liquid multi-vitamin, and just began taking coconut oil >and drinking Kombucha tea. Are there any other vitamins/supplements that >you ladies could recommend that helps? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 , I found her on my Aetna doctor list. I’ll make an appt with her as soon as my test results come in. Do you think she’d be open to my sending her a couple of pages of my history I typed up along with the results before the appt? I would figure it would be easier than having her read it while I’m there for the first visit. Melody Re: Armour Good News! Hi Melody, No, don't worry, you haven't asked me! LOL! But, I know what you mean, I'm a space cadet most of the time! My Dr. is Tina Corkran, she's a Family Dr. located in the Champions area. She was hesitant at first to prescribe the armour, but I was very adament about having it, and now that she has seen that I feel better than I did when I was on levothyroxine, she's become more of a supporter. She's very down to earth and easy to talk to. Let me know if you need more info. Re: Newbie Introduction! T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days. Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below. " T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate. T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it. " http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.php Correct me on any of this if the info is not in line. Sara > > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out. > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think this doc prescribed the Armour for an established patient who was threatening to go elsewhere. She might not do the same for a new patient. I would add that the provider directories are padded with docs who have long since left the network. Call the doctor's office and ask.Your Web Developer wrote: , I found her on my Aetna doctor list. I’ll make an appt with her as soon as my test results come in. Do you think she’d be open to my sending her a couple of pages of my history I typed up along with the results before the appt? I would figure it would be easier than having her read it while I’m there for the first visit. Melody -----Original Message-----From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of GardunoSent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:18 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Armour Good News! Hi Melody, No, don't worry, you haven't asked me! LOL! But, I know what you mean, I'm a space cadet most of the time! My Dr. is Tina Corkran, she's a Family Dr. located in the Champions area. She was hesitant at first to prescribe the armour, but I was very adament about having it, and now that she has seen that I feel better than I did when I was on levothyroxine, she's become more of a supporter. She's very down to earth and easy to talk to. Let me know if you need more info. Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I will, thanks J Re: Armour Good News! Hi Melody, No, don't worry, you haven't asked me! LOL! But, I know what you mean, I'm a space cadet most of the time! My Dr. is Tina Corkran, she's a Family Dr. located in the Champions area. She was hesitant at first to prescribe the armour, but I was very adament about having it, and now that she has seen that I feel better than I did when I was on levothyroxine, she's become more of a supporter. She's very down to earth and easy to talk to. Let me know if you need more info. Re: Newbie Introduction! T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days. Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below. " T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate. T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it. " http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.php Correct me on any of this if the info is not in line. Sara > > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out. > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Tina Corkran in the Champions area. Thanks, I gave her a list of the vitamins during my last visit. Re: Armour Good News!,Who are your seeing in Houston?Make sure you discuss your vitamin/supplements with your doctor.Kate GAt 10:45 AM 1/28/2008, you wrote:>Great news!!! My Dr.'s nurse here in Houston called me back about >increasing my Armour doseage and she agreed to increase it to 2 of the >60mg/day. I asked if it came in 120mg and she said the pharmacist told >her she could fill it for 120. I'm so excited about that!!! I have felt >a lot better since I began doubling up on my Armour! Not as near as >fatigued and my memory seems a bit more intact!>>The Dr. is going to fax me my labs today, and I will post those on here as >soon as I get them. I am on a list of vitamins, to help with my weight >loss and overall health. So far I am taking CLA, cinnamon, L-lysine, >5-HTP, EFA's, a liquid multi-vitamin, and just began taking coconut oil >and drinking Kombucha tea. Are there any other vitamins/supplements that >you ladies could recommend that helps?>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think she would probably appreciate getting your background. My last visit with her, I gave her three pages of information that I researched along with a list of my vitamins and medications and she was very appreciative and took her time listening to me. Let me know how you like her. Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed?> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 My first visit with her was as a new patient, and I was there to discuss my thyroid and ask for Armour. She did try to give me the whole "Armour is hard to measure" speech at first and since I had such a miserable time trying to get my previous Endo to prescribe it, I did make it clear to her that I was determined to get the Armour one way or another, even if it meant going to another Dr. Since then, as she's watched my progress, I think her attitude about armour has changed. My mom is also a patient of hers and also has hypothryoid and she didn't blink when my mom asked for Armour. I can't say for sure if she will try to talk someone out of it, but in the end, she did prescribe it ...where other Dr's I saw just plain flat-out refused. My last visit with her she said that she was glad that I asked for the Armour because it seems to have worked well for me. I'm hoping this means she has a new attitude about it. But who knows? Re: Newbie Introduction!T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days.Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below."T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate.T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it."http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.phpCorrect me on any of this if the info is not in line.Sara>> Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out.> > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well, I’m more confident taking a gamble on her than going to someone I have no idea what they will do. I’ll send her my records and info with a paragraph on what I expect and that the reason I chose her was because of your recommendation and my belief that Armour is the only way I’m going to go from the beginning. I’m not willing to go through things others have already proven and after all the books and internet info out there on the difference. How many and what type of drs did you go to? I’m very interested in other’s stories, especially since that’s what finally convinced me I wasn’t crazy or alone in my misery. I feel it is this that will keep me more informed and able to find the right treatment. I hope to spread the news so fewer people have to go through this so long. Re: Armour Good News! My first visit with her was as a new patient, and I was there to discuss my thyroid and ask for Armour. She did try to give me the whole " Armour is hard to measure " speech at first and since I had such a miserable time trying to get my previous Endo to prescribe it, I did make it clear to her that I was determined to get the Armour one way or another, even if it meant going to another Dr. Since then, as she's watched my progress, I think her attitude about armour has changed. My mom is also a patient of hers and also has hypothryoid and she didn't blink when my mom asked for Armour. I can't say for sure if she will try to talk someone out of it, but in the end, she did prescribe it ...where other Dr's I saw just plain flat-out refused. My last visit with her she said that she was glad that I asked for the Armour because it seems to have worked well for me. I'm hoping this means she has a new attitude about it. But who knows? Re: Newbie Introduction! T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days. Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below. " T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate. T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it. " http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.php Correct me on any of this if the info is not in line. Sara > > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out. > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I can’t wait to make the appt. J Re: Armour Good News! I think she would probably appreciate getting your background. My last visit with her, I gave her three pages of information that I researched along with a list of my vitamins and medications and she was very appreciative and took her time listening to me. Let me know how you like her. Re: Newbie Introduction! T4 has a much longer half life than T3. T4 converts to T3. T3 gets into your system and is used more directly and faster at the cell level. You can really be on a roller coaster, IMHO and from what I've read, by having different doses on alternate days. You are pulling half of that T3 away on alternate days. Here's an excerpt from something I just found, which explains it pretty well, I think. Jan, sorry if I'm citing too much or linking to an inappropriate site. Just let me know. The link is below. " T4 (thyroxine) and T3 are the main thyroid hormones. T3 is five to eight times as strong as T4 (taking into consideration that it's absorbed at a higher rate than T4), and it's biologically more active. T4 is like the food in your refrigerator, while T3 is like the food on your plate. T4 is slow acting, with a half-life of about one week — after a week, you have about half the level of the T4 still in your body, a week or so later you have half of that half remaining, and so on. Its full effects aren't reached until about six weeks after starting or changing a dose, which is why lab tests are optimally done every six weeks or so until a patient with hypothyroidism has reached satisfactory and stable thyroid hormone levels. T3, on the other hand, has a half-life of about a day. People on T3 sometimes feel its effects within minutes after taking it. " http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/t3.php Correct me on any of this if the info is not in line. Sara > > Thanks . Actually, I think she would be willing to give me the results...I just need to ask. She's a pretty good at listening to me and letting me have an input on my medical needs. I called yesterday to get the information and to ask if she would raise the dosage on Armour and the Dr. was out of the office until Monday. I'll call again on Monday and post whatever I find out. > > I notice on days that I take two of the armour I have more energy, am more alert and not as absent minded. Is my mind playing tricks on me or could this be because I'm taking 2 instead of 1 of the 60mg prescribed? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 > > Well, I'm more confident taking a gamble on her than going to someone I > have no idea what they will do. I'll send her my records and info with a > paragraph on what I expect and that the reason I chose her was because > of your recommendation and my belief that Armour is the only way I'm > going to go from the beginning. I'm not willing to go through things > others have already proven and after all the books and internet info out > there on the difference. > > How many and what type of drs did you go to? I'm very interested in > other's stories, especially since that's what finally convinced me I > wasn't crazy or alone in my misery. I feel it is this that will keep me > more informed and able to find the right treatment. I hope to spread the > news so fewer people have to go through this so long. > Just a note of caution in that we are all different and so while Armour is definitely the best place to start for most, it's really only part of the battle for many of us that have other hormonal imbalances. I found a doctor that would prescribe Armour, but didn't seem to care at all that I had adrenal issues, so I could not tolerate a high starting dose of Armour. In addition, I developed an allergic reaction to Armour after being on it for a few months. And, the doctor I was seeing at the time wouldn't believe it, but I persisted and she prescribed compounded T4 and T3 (since I'm lactose intolerant and Cytomel had lactose at that time). [Note: I also urge caution in taking compounded thyroid as I found inconsistencies in my own medication, so I have since switched to Levothroid and Cytomel (which is now lactose-free]. So, unfortunately, we often each have a unique path through this process. I have many friends that are also hypo and I'm constantly asking about the details of their recent labs as they rattle off symptom after symptom and my typical response is that they're undermedicated, but many just don't feel comfortable being assertive and typically respond that their doctor says their " in-range " , which is meaningless if you still have symptoms. So, it's good to be willing to share the information, just beware that people have to be ready to receive it for it to be effective. It took one friend over two years before she even asked the doctor to test her thyroid! As others on this list have mentioned, the best doctors for thyroid seem to be Family Practice, rather than specialists. I think it's because the GPs are used to dealing with a variety of problems on a regular basis and often are far more humble than any of the specialists I've seen. Another plus is doctors that are also hypothyroid (or have a family member that is) tend to be far more sympathetic and flexible in their treatment. A third factor that I sometimes think is the most important is a doctor that has a scientific background, as those are usually the best at really analyzing the complex cases. I'm an engineer and nothing frustrates me more than to realize that many MDs are really very poor scientists and basic problem solvers. I can tell the ones that had difficulty with the math and sciences in college based upon their reactions when I pull out my spreadsheet summarizing my lab results and various medication levels. I dont' see Dr. R. at this time, but my understanding is that he's one of the few (if not the only one) that satisfies all three of those points I raise. It took me 5 doctors (the 5th is a Family Practice doctor) to find one that would even listen to anything I had to say about what was going on with me. However, she's become somewhat of a TSH nazi (doesn't like it suppressed at all, but I persist and she writes the Rx I know I need). I went to a 6th doctor (a Family practice doctor) that is a specialist in Lyme/mold illness and that helped alot, but he knows NOTHING about thyroid or celiac. The 7th doctor (GYN) is looking somewhat hopeful for thyroid, although I don't know yet how she feels about the suppressed TSH and of course, she requires I still have a PCP. I'm also working with an 8th doctor who is a Naturopath that is helping to deal with my Lyme leftovers, many allergies and continued strong reactions to mold. So, in short, the type of doctor you need really depends upon what all you have going on. Many of us have many layers to our illness by the time we reach this group. But, again, from what everyone on this board says, Dr. R is likely a very good place to start. If I was where I was over two years ago and hadn't found doctor #6 (I had been with doctor #5 about 6 months at that point in time and 6 months is when I decide whether or not a doctor will work), I'd be on a plane to Lubbock right now. If doctor #7 doesn't work out, I will be on that plane to Lubbock by the end of May. Good luck. This group is a wealth of information and support. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I think the word you are looking for is "elbow." These docs don't know their respective elbows from a collective hole in the ground. Indeed, many of them suffer from an unfortunate cranio-rectal impaction, which is only fatal to the patient, not the doc. And not only do they have their heads in the wrong place, some of them even have their hearts in the wrong place. One local DFW endo, Dr. Gluteus Maximus Equinus, is quoted as saying, " I don't treat patients. I treat numbers. . . . ." His friends call him Max. I can't tell you whut his patients call him. I don't want to be banned for talking dirty. . . . . Besides Free T3, Free T4 and TSH, a ferritin test would be a good idea. Ferritin low in its range (below 50-100) can have symptoms identical to those of hypothyroidism. Vitamins, B6, B12, and D. Maybe a sex hormone profile. 8 am cortisol or four saliva tests. I should put Dr. deVries on our list. I did not list him originally because he does not Rx Armour. But I now list docs who prescribe synthetic T3 on a separate part of the list. >> Sorry to butt in but I have been on this site for a week now researching for my Sister who has severe graves, I went to the link http://www.drlowe.com/#Search%20Engine that Jan kindly provided and have been reading most of the afternoon ( my head is spinning) I just wanted to say thanks for everyones input, this disease is so complicated I am having trouble trying to sort it out and I am not even sick..I dont know how you ladies cope! and it is amazing how many docs dont seem to know their you know what from a hole in the ground ( as Mom used to say) , but anyone new to here should definately check that link out lots of great info there. > > I am trying to complile a list of tests my Sis should be asking her Dr for, she is only on Synthroid ight now and I think from the symptons she is dealing with and reading here that she is dealing with a lot more issues than she thought.> > But you all give us hope that she can get to feeling better if we can just get her a new Doc that has a brain!> > Anyway thanks for all info> Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I am the one who said, "They can take away my Armour when they pry the bottle from my cold, dead fingers" with apologies to Charleton Heston. . . . . I also take a small dose of Lannett generic levothyroxine in order to get exactly the right amounts of T3 and T4. I have never taken synthetic T3, but would consider it if I were allergic to Armour. <shudder!> The one thyroid med I don't like is straight T4. From what I have heard, deVries is adamant about not prescribing Armour. I would expect that the only circumstance under which he would prescribe it might be for a patient who was already on it and doing well. Launius will Rx any thyroid meds you want, but has ended up prescribing Armour almost exclusively. He takes it himself, along with wife, two teenage daughters and dawg. . . . . > >> > Sorry to butt in but I have been on this site for a week now researching for my Sister who has severe graves, I went to the link http://www.drlowe.com/#Search%20Engine that Jan kindly provided and have been reading most of the afternoon ( my head is spinning) I just wanted to say thanks for everyones input, this disease is so complicated I am having trouble trying to sort it out and I am not even sick..I dont know how you ladies cope! and it is amazing how many docs dont seem to know their you know what from a hole in the ground ( as Mom used to say) , but anyone new to here should definately check that link out lots of great info there. > > > > I am trying to complile a list of tests my Sis should be asking her Dr for, she is only on Synthroid ight now and I think from the symptons she is dealing with and reading here that she is dealing with a lot more issues than she thought.> > > > But you all give us hope that she can get to feeling better if we can just get her a new Doc that has a brain!> > > > Anyway thanks for all info> > Darla> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Darla - I remember when I finally made the decision to travel to Lubbock. Like you and many others, I read a lot of posts and saw Dr. s's name mentioned and saw all the recommendations. I still needed a little more assurance, as, like many others, I couldn't understand why I couldn't find help in Dallas, for pete's sake, and so I decided to attend a local TTG meeting. I wanted my DH to go with me, not just because I was so sick and weak I couldn't drive, but I needed him to be able to listen and remember what was said, and offer his opinion. I had extreme brain fog and I was barely able to sit up and listen. I was very lucky in that Jan lives in Dallas, and I could hear her in person discuss Dr. and hypo, adrenal, and hormone issues in detail. (Not much made it through the fog, but my DH listened for me.) There were others present who had made the decision to travel to Lubbock also. One a year before, others prior to that. The point was that I saw these women who had my same symptoms, had been where I was, and all were in various stages of getting well. It then made the decision easy. And my DH said, " let's go now. " I called for an appt., DH packed me up in the car with pillows, and drove me out there. I could barely sit up during the appt. But when I experienced the understanding and acceptance by Dr. of where I was, heard how he had treated many hundreds (I think several thousand now) of folks like me, who had gotten better, and saw him sit patiently with me and my DH while he explained what was going on in my body in extreme detail, I felt 10,000 pounds of anxiety and hopelessness lift from my shoulders. My DH drove me back out for the second visit two weeks later, and it was very hard on me, but I knew it was bringing me a few steps closer to wellness. And each trip out has kept me moving along just as he said I would. If you can advocate for your sister and if she can work out insurance coverage or some way to pay for Dr. , I strongly urge you or someone to get her out there. Why spend your time trying to research your sister's issues and feel uncomfortable with doc's who don't know as much as you do? Why should she have to beg for medications? Why would she see a doc who will only offer a limited range of treatment, and who doesn't really understand all the underlying systemic and intricate biochemical problems that can occur with thyroid disease? Why settle for half-measures and wondering if everything is being done properly? You have the collective experiences of dozens of women on this board who have gone to see this doc and are better now. She is feeling bad and can't make a proper decision. She can't imagine trying to get out there, if she's thinking of having to do it alone. Would she accept your help and can you get her out there and back for visits until she is better? My DH (who also see's Dr. R) and I now drive out and back from Dallas in one day. You and your sister are even closer to Lubbock than we are. Many folks drive much further distances, and a lot of folks fly as soon as they feel up to it. Please let her know that she's not alone in feeling like this is impossible to do. We all felt that way at first. I am very sorry that she has gone through so much. I apologize if I sound overly assertive or too passionate, but I just want her to see the best doc possible if she can work it out with insurance or some other way. Sara > > > > Sorry to butt in but I have been on this site for a week now researching for my Sister who has severe graves, I went to the link http://www.drlowe.com/#Search%20Engine that Jan kindly provided and have been reading most of the afternoon ( my head is spinning) I just wanted to say thanks for everyones input, this disease is so complicated I am having trouble trying to sort it out and I am not even sick..I dont know how you ladies cope! and it is amazing how many docs dont seem to know their you know what from a hole in the ground ( as Mom used to say) , but anyone new to here should definately check that link out lots of great info there. > > > > I am trying to complile a list of tests my Sis should be asking her Dr for, she is only on Synthroid ight now and I think from the symptons she is dealing with and reading here that she is dealing with a lot more issues than she thought. > > > > But you all give us hope that she can get to feeling better if we can just get her a new Doc that has a brain! > > > > Anyway thanks for all info > > Darla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I WENT TO HIM! He must tell everyone the same thing. OMG! I know him, I know him, he is at one of our fine Dallas Hospitals too. > > > I think the word you are looking for is " elbow. " These docs don't know > their respective elbows from a collective hole in the ground. Indeed, > many of them suffer from an unfortunate cranio-rectal impaction, which > is only fatal to the patient, not the doc. > > And not only do they have their heads in the wrong place, some of them > even have their hearts in the wrong place. One local DFW endo, Dr. > Gluteus Maximus Equinus, is quoted as saying, " I don't treat patients. > I treat numbers. . . . . " His friends call him Max. I can't tell you > whut his patients call him. I don't want to be banned for talking dirty. > . . . . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Actually, he did not tell me that. I read it in the database on our site. He told my internist to increase my $ynthroid because my TSH needed to be suppressed, as I am a thyca patient. When I asked about all the different thyroid hormones, he explained that T4 converts to T3, and you don't need anything else. Then I called Walgreens and asked the pharmacist if there was a thyroid medication with all of the thyroid hormones. Yes. There is Armour. I called my internist and asked for an Rx for Armour. He told me flat no at that time, but I eventually prevailed. I have not been back to Feinstein. . . . .even though I was invited to his birthday/anniversary of practice bash. . . . . > >> > > > I think the word you are looking for is "elbow." These docs don't > know> > their respective elbows from a collective hole in the ground. > Indeed,> > many of them suffer from an unfortunate cranio-rectal impaction, > which> > is only fatal to the patient, not the doc.> > > > And not only do they have their heads in the wrong place, some of > them> > even have their hearts in the wrong place. One local DFW endo, Dr.> > Gluteus Maximus Equinus, is quoted as saying, " I don't treat > patients.> > I treat numbers. . . . ." His friends call him Max. I can't tell you> > whut his patients call him. I don't want to be banned for talking > dirty.> > . . . .> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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