Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Lani, I feel for ya, my son and I have been there a time or two. It's so sad. And some little girls are just little snobs, they don't know how their simple little comment is so crushing. All we can do is empower our kids at home. I would have probably said to my son if it had happened to him....'that little girl sure was rude, what do you think is her problem anyhow?' If he says I don't know and nothing else then I just say 'I'm glad you aren't like that!' and leave it at that. Tanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Talking to other kids about your son's autism will only give them more ammunition. What we did with Louie was to talk to *him* about *their* disabilities. We told him that these kids were just rude, and that they didn't know any better. We also told him that while some of these kids would change their attitudes when they were older, just like he worked to change things about himself, others would grow from rude children to rude adults. We told him that their opinions of him didn't matter, so long as his opinion of himself was good. We had to start this teaching when he was only 5, and first encountered cruelty tossed in his direction. We phrased it in words that he could understand, and made sure that he knew that these rude kids were wrong in what they said to him. He seemed to take this kinda guff better as he aged. Hope this helps you! Annie, who loves ya annie@... -- No distance of place or lapse of time can lessen the friendship of those who are thoroughly persuaded of each other's worth. -- Southey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I read your e-mail and know how he felt. I have had similar things like that happen to me. By the way, so all of us really get into swimming? I have yet to meet or hear of an autistic person that did not just love to swim. Anyway, I went to a public school. My parents did not make a big deal out my autism even though I was also in a special class for 2-3 hours a day. The other kids were terrible to me. Several times I was the only one not invited to a party when the rest of my class was. I probably would not have gone but I came home crying anyway. I don't think it instilled a bad attitude in me but to be honest, it did make me even more aware of the difference between them and me. I never approach people. Never. One time I saw a group of deaf students, or at least they were signing and not talking so I assume they were deaf, discussing an archaeology class that many of them would have and the teacher as well. I wanted so bad to join them as I knew what they were talking about and I had even had the class, but I couldn't. I just figured I would be rejected. After all, I am autistic, not deaf. I assumed I would be shot down. I do know that about 2 years ago a girl that I went to school with came to work where I work and asked me what exactly was the matter with me. I wrote out the answer for her and her eyes got real teary. She said " you know, I don't think everyone would have been as mean to you if they had known that you are autistic " . I started to write out " it would not have mattered as the principal and the teachers were mean too and they were aware I have autism. My parents ignored the times that I was shot down or hurt. I think if they had said something like " it's thier problem, not yours " or something like that, it might have made me feel better. I think they did not know what to do either. I think some of the schools I went to handled it better when the class was told I had autism. Kids are interested in " helping " others and it brings out thier best. If the other kids simply think you are " retarded " , " psycho " or " weird " then they don't want to associate with you. If they think they are " helping " , then it becomes a little easier for them. I doubt I helped much but I just know how he felt and thought I should write. Mouse --- Lani Bass wrote: > HELLO~ > My 8-year-old son's school closed at the end of this > last school year. So, it has been a big deal trying > to establish for him what his new school will be > like, who he might know there, etcetera. Yesterday, > we were swimming at the same pool where one of his > classmates from the last two years was also > swimming. I saw him swim up to her and overheard > him asking her where she was going to school this > year. She replied with the name of a different > school name than the one he is going to. He told > her he was going to the different school. She > replied, " Good! " He, looking confused, asked " Why? " > She swam off away from him. I had been happy to > hear him trying to interact, as he often just > obsesses over swimming, the water, etcetera, and > doesn't really interact with others. I now felt sad > for him about what he had just experienced. I know > my son can be overly hyperactive, obsessive about > being first, invasive about personal space, and > other things, but it is still hard to see his > attempts at communication being crushed. I feel > like this is the kind of thing that is just going to > bring out more bad attitude in him. I don't know > what to do in situations like that. Also, I never > know whether to talk to other kids about my son's > autism or not. Sometimes, I think that I should > explain so they might excuse some of his behavior, > but other times, I am afraid of ruining his own > chance to kind of make his own way and fit in where > he will. I am afraid making too big of a deal about > his autism will make other kids avoid him. He can > often fit in fairly well. Any suggestions? > ~LANIGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer > download : http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Strangely enough, I also experienced a great deal of attitude from the other kids I attended school with. It really is so unfair when other kids do this to those who are different from them. My own experiences are somewhat different, as although I was hit just about every day, called names and generally avoided by everybody, this did not bother me one bit. Firstly, at that time in my life, I did not feel physical pain at all. Initially, this was a serious problem for my parents, as I had no idea of knowing when I was hurt, particularly up to my seventh year of life, as I did not talk at all up until then (I did not even make sounds). I never really liked people much, not as a rule. The fact that most people would rather not have breathed the same air as me, simply because I behaved differently to others really did not bother me all that much. I very rarely have much to say, even now and it was significantly less then. I am very rarely aware of others outside of my immediate focus and so what kids shouted at me from the other side of the corridor or across the playground really was nothing but wasted breath. Looking back on it now, I suppose I should feel something akin to pity for them. After all, the satisfaction gained from beating me within an inch of my so called " life " must have been completely annihilated when I stood up and walked off, without so much as an intermittent claudication! Other children to one side, the teachers at the schools I attended really were not much better and had no experience in dealing with kids like I was (and NOWHERE wants to deal with adults like I am). I never did tell my parents about this kind of thing, as by the time I had arrived home, I was sufficiently in my own world enough not to really care much what happened in anybody else's psychology. I do feel very sorry for kids like those mentioned here, who are beginning to develop their communications skills and nobody wants to help. I never did really understand people that way, how a difference here or there can make so great a distance between humanity. In my very isolated and insular corner of the world, I used to think it was improving somewhat, but after reading these e-mails I can see that I am wrong on that one. I have no pearls of wisdom to end this one and I am quite sure nobody would appreciate being told to keep fighting the battle (I know I don't), but, for what it is worth, I do understand the feelings involved and my sympathies are with those concerned. Ade! Re: Good! Why? I read your e-mail and know how he felt. I have had similar things like that happen to me. By the way, so all of us really get into swimming? I have yet to meet or hear of an autistic person that did not just love to swim. Anyway, I went to a public school. My parents did not make a big deal out my autism even though I was also in a special class for 2-3 hours a day. The other kids were terrible to me. Several times I was the only one not invited to a party when the rest of my class was. I probably would not have gone but I came home crying anyway. I don't think it instilled a bad attitude in me but to be honest, it did make me even more aware of the difference between them and me. I never approach people. Never. One time I saw a group of deaf students, or at least they were signing and not talking so I assume they were deaf, discussing an archaeology class that many of them would have and the teacher as well. I wanted so bad to join them as I knew what they were talking about and I had even had the class, but I couldn't. I just figured I would be rejected. After all, I am autistic, not deaf. I assumed I would be shot down. I do know that about 2 years ago a girl that I went to school with came to work where I work and asked me what exactly was the matter with me. I wrote out the answer for her and her eyes got real teary. She said " you know, I don't think everyone would have been as mean to you if they had known that you are autistic " . I started to write out " it would not have mattered as the principal and the teachers were mean too and they were aware I have autism. My parents ignored the times that I was shot down or hurt. I think if they had said something like " it's thier problem, not yours " or something like that, it might have made me feel better. I think they did not know what to do either. I think some of the schools I went to handled it better when the class was told I had autism. Kids are interested in " helping " others and it brings out thier best. If the other kids simply think you are " retarded " , " psycho " or " weird " then they don't want to associate with you. If they think they are " helping " , then it becomes a little easier for them. I doubt I helped much but I just know how he felt and thought I should write. Mouse --- Lani Bass wrote: > HELLO~ > My 8-year-old son's school closed at the end of this > last school year. So, it has been a big deal trying > to establish for him what his new school will be > like, who he might know there, etcetera. Yesterday, > we were swimming at the same pool where one of his > classmates from the last two years was also > swimming. I saw him swim up to her and overheard > him asking her where she was going to school this > year. She replied with the name of a different > school name than the one he is going to. He told > her he was going to the different school. She > replied, " Good! " He, looking confused, asked " Why? " > She swam off away from him. I had been happy to > hear him trying to interact, as he often just > obsesses over swimming, the water, etcetera, and > doesn't really interact with others. I now felt sad > for him about what he had just experienced. I know > my son can be overly hyperactive, obsessive about > being first, invasive about personal space, and > other things, but it is still hard to see his > attempts at communication being crushed. I feel > like this is the kind of thing that is just going to > bring out more bad attitude in him. I don't know > what to do in situations like that. Also, I never > know whether to talk to other kids about my son's > autism or not. Sometimes, I think that I should > explain so they might excuse some of his behavior, > but other times, I am afraid of ruining his own > chance to kind of make his own way and fit in where > he will. I am afraid making too big of a deal about > his autism will make other kids avoid him. He can > often fit in fairly well. 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Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Is that an autistic thing, not to experience pain the way other people do? I once broke my arm and did not feel it. I had a cut that required 14 stitches and did not feel it and the only way I was even aware of it was that my mother saw the blood on my shirt and freaked out. At the same time, if someone touches me lightly it sends me into orbit. I know an autistic boy who is just 13 and looks 10 but they rub a feather duster over him to calm him down. Just watching that almost sent me into orbit. It looked so painful but he loved it. I was never beat up or anything, but I was ignored and made fun of. I think people have come a long way in dealing with autism but like everything, there is still a long way to go. I mean, look at you. You're a doctor, right? 100 years ago you would have been institutionalized when you were 3-4, the same as I would have been. I mean, I have not come as far as you. I am nothing more than a mail room boy for a finance company and I still live at home, but I am not in an institution. I think 100 years from now, if there is still such a thing as autism, the perception of the public will be much different than it is today, and it's so much better today than it was 100 years ago. I have forgotten who sent the initial e-mail about thier son, and I am sorry I have forgotten, but the fact that your son initiated conversation with someone makes me think he has a pretty good future and is obviously very intelligent. I do not have the skills or the courage to do that, even with people I know. I don't hide from them, but I sure am not confident enough to go up and start a conversation. I actually am in awe of your son. I feel sorry for the way he was treated but I am still in awe of him. Mouse --- Ade Rowley wrote: > Strangely enough, I also experienced a great deal of > attitude from the other > kids I attended school with. > > It really is so unfair when other kids do this to > those who are different > from them. My own experiences are somewhat > different, as although I was hit > just about every day, called names and generally > avoided by everybody, this > did not bother me one bit. Firstly, at that time in > my life, I did not feel > physical pain at all. Initially, this was a serious > problem for my parents, > as I had no idea of knowing when I was hurt, > particularly up to my seventh > year of life, as I did not talk at all up until then > (I did not even make > sounds). > > I never really liked people much, not as a rule. > The fact that most people > would rather not have breathed the same air as me, > simply because I behaved > differently to others really did not bother me all > that much. I very rarely > have much to say, even now and it was significantly > less then. I am very > rarely aware of others outside of my immediate focus > and so what kids > shouted at me from the other side of the corridor or > across the playground > really was nothing but wasted breath. Looking back > on it now, I suppose I > should feel something akin to pity for them. After > all, the satisfaction > gained from beating me within an inch of my so > called " life " must have been > completely annihilated when I stood up and walked > off, without so much as an > intermittent claudication! > > Other children to one side, the teachers at the > schools I attended really > were not much better and had no experience in > dealing with kids like I was > (and NOWHERE wants to deal with adults like I am). > I never did tell my > parents about this kind of thing, as by the time I > had arrived home, I was > sufficiently in my own world enough not to really > care much what happened in > anybody else's psychology. > > I do feel very sorry for kids like those mentioned > here, who are beginning > to develop their communications skills and nobody > wants to help. I never > did really understand people that way, how a > difference here or there can > make so great a distance between humanity. In my > very isolated and insular > corner of the world, I used to think it was > improving somewhat, but after > reading these e-mails I can see that I am wrong on > that one. > > I have no pearls of wisdom to end this one and I am > quite sure nobody would > appreciate being told to keep fighting the battle (I > know I don't), but, for > what it is worth, I do understand the feelings > involved and my sympathies > are with those concerned. > > Ade! > Re: Good! Why? > > > I read your e-mail and know how he felt. I have had > similar things like that happen to me. By the way, > so > all of us really get into swimming? I have yet to > meet > or hear of an autistic person that did not just love > to swim. Anyway, I went to a public school. My > parents > did not make a big deal out my autism even though I > was also in a special class for 2-3 hours a day. The > other kids were terrible to me. Several times I was > the only one not invited to a party when the rest of > my class was. I probably would not have gone but I > came home crying anyway. I don't think it instilled > a > bad attitude in me but to be honest, it did make me > even more aware of the difference between them and > me. > I never approach people. Never. One time I saw a > group > of deaf students, or at least they were signing and > not talking so I assume they were deaf, discussing > an > archaeology class that many of them would have and > the > teacher as well. I wanted so bad to join them as I > knew what they were talking about and I had even had > the class, but I couldn't. I just figured I would be > rejected. After all, I am autistic, not deaf. I > assumed I would be shot down. I do know that about 2 > years ago a girl that I went to school with came to > work where I work and asked me what exactly was the > matter with me. I wrote out the answer for her and > her > eyes got real teary. She said " you know, I don't > think > everyone would have been as mean to you if they had > known that you are autistic " . I started to write out > " it would not have mattered as the principal and the > teachers were mean too and they were aware I have > autism. My parents ignored the times that I was shot > down or hurt. I think if they had said something > like > " it's thier problem, not yours " or something like > that, it might have made me feel better. I think > they > did not know what to do either. I think some of the > schools I went to handled it better when the class > was > told I had autism. Kids are interested in " helping " > others and it brings out thier best. If the other > kids > simply think you are " retarded " , " psycho " or " weird " > then they don't want to associate with you. If they > think they are " helping " , then it becomes a little > easier for them. > I doubt I helped much but I just know how he felt > and > thought I should write. > Mouse > --- Lani Bass wrote: > > HELLO~ > > My 8-year-old son's school closed at the end of > this > > last school year. So, it has been a big deal > trying > > to establish for him what his new school will be > > like, who he might know there, etcetera. > Yesterday, > > we were swimming at the same pool where one of his > > classmates from the last two years was also > > swimming. I saw him swim up to her and overheard > > him asking her where she was going to school this > > year. She replied with the name of a different > > school name than the one he is going to. He told > > her he was going to the different school. She > > replied, " Good! " He, looking confused, asked > " Why? " > > She swam off away from him. I had been happy to > > hear him trying to interact, as he often just > > obsesses over swimming, the water, etcetera, and > > doesn't really interact with others. I now felt > sad > > for him about what he had just experienced. I > know > > my son can be overly hyperactive, obsessive about > > being first, invasive about personal space, and > > other things, but it is still hard to see his > > attempts at communication being crushed. I feel > > like this is the kind of thing that is just going > to > > bring out more bad attitude in him. I don't know > > what to do in situations like that. Also, I never > > know whether to talk to other kids about my son's > > autism or not. Sometimes, I think that I should > > explain so they might excuse some of his behavior, > > but other times, I am afraid of ruining his own > > chance to kind of make his own way and fit in > where > > he will. I am afraid making too big of a deal > about > > his autism will make other kids avoid him. He can > > often fit in fairly well. Any suggestions? > > ~LANIGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer > > download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 First of all, Mouse, you are a mail boy, not " just " a mail boy. Secondly, I am male, not female. I am sure it is something to do with my name, but a lot of people do mistake me for being female, particularly people who do not know me well and always particularly if they only know me over e-mails (which I can see is quite understandable). I WAS a doctor, but I retired after my partner died and from that day I swore I would never practice medicine again (and I made good on that promise and will continue to do just that). My education to one side, you must understand, Mouse, that I was a consultant and not a general practitioner in Primary Care. This does make something of a difference, because by the time I dealt with a patient, the diagnosis had already been made in Primary Care, my job was then to treat that condition, or prescribe some form of pain management. It was only rarely that I was ever referred a patient with whom no motion had been made towards a diagnosis, usually by GPs who referred on immediately, rather than worked on any tests first (which, admittedly, some did frequently, although I was not the only consultant haematologist at that hospital and did not see every single patient myself). In Primary Care, there is a great deal more patient-doctor interaction (some of which is pointless). Generally speaking, one must be a " people's champion " in Primary Care and have an affinity with other people, who may have just about any disease, disorder or syndrome and the skill is to develop an interaction which produces a result to that patient's benefit. I am not sure I could ever have done this, as my time spent with general patients (which is mandatory for at least six months after graduating from the BM BCH degree) was particularly trying. The reason most people find me arrogant (I should say " found, " although I am sure I am still as bad with people I come into contact with to do with my work now), is because I have no particular conversation with anybody. Yes, I do have the ability of speech now, although my speech is very limited and essential, rather than colloquial and friendly. My patients were mainly children, although here in the UK it is not permitted to see one type of patient for one particular disorder (thus, a consultant haematologist would have to deal in ALL blood disorders, as it is not permitted to focus on just one), but nonetheless, most of the other patients were taken by the other consultants there. I am not sure if you read an e-mail I sent a few weeks ago, Mouse, where I described the little girl who took my stethoscope (and kept it)? She was quite profoundly autistic and equally as retarded. During my first consultation with her, both her parents accompanied her and from the second they walked into my consulting room they did not cease to talk for her (admittedly, she had no speech, but that would not have prevented my extracting the information I needed from her). When I did approach her to take an initial examination, her father immediately stated, " She cannot talk, as she is autistic and she will not co-operate with you at all. She uses her mother and me as though we were tools! " My response to that of, " In that case, do not behave like one, " went down like the proverbial lead balloon, but you can see from this what I mean by my attitude being considered offensive and often arrogant. I do not mean to hurt people with what I say, but people who consistently talk really do not mix well with me. As far as education is concerned, if you could take a glimpse of what it took to get it, you may not consider me to be quite so fortunate (or that intelligent). At primary school, the headmaster wanted to transfer me to a nearby school, which was in fact a special school for those with learning disabilities and real physical and mental handicaps. I never saw the inside of it, but my parents did and what they saw shocked them to such a degree that they absolutely refused my entry into that school. I think, particularly on my mother's point of view, they felt as though I would only grow worse at a place like that, rather than make any improvements and looking at that, I think they were probably correct. You think things have changed, do you? I would not wish to change your opinions on that one, Mouse, so will make no in-roads towards that. Suffice to say, that is not my opinion, but we are all entitled to one, regardless of how different it is. You mentioned something which did captivate me somewhat, " if there is such a thing as autism in 100 years. " I know this really will go down flaming and I will apologise in advance for upsetting anybody with this statement. I ask only that you understand that it may not be your own, but that it is mine and one that has evolved throughout my own experiences in life. I dearly hope that autism is around in 100 years and that it does not die out and grow to be just another curio in a medical text book. I have seen the destruction it can cause to a family, particularly where other siblings are involved. I have also seen life on the inside of the institutions that Mouse made his comments on. I have seen the heartbreak that can be caused by a child who is deeply autistic and where his or her parents must make the decision to have that child institutionalised for the sake of the family. Yet, above all of that, I have seen the joy that a child can bring who has never spoken all his life and manages to say his first words one day. I have experienced the bond that develops when that one child, who may talk to nobody else and be considered aloof and hostile, suddenly makes his or her path to one person and takes to that one person as a friend, for no apparent reason. While I fully understand that the skills I am about to write of do not exist in all autistic individuals, I look at people like " blind Tom, " who knew fewer than 100 words and was blind from birth and profoundly autistic, yet could play over 70,000 musical works on a piano simply from memory and with absolute pitch. Certainly, I for one do not want this syndrome to die, not ever. People do tend to throw a great deal of terminology around where autism and related disorders are concerned. I have constantly read the word " comorbid " in relation to this disorder. This is something of a misnomer, as comorbidity occurs where more than one disease process is in place. Autism is NOT a disease. It falls squarely into the classification of a " syndrome. " I realise that many professionals have written immense works on why this may exist, although I also know that not one theory hold up to speculation and not one of them is able to produce consistency at any level. While one theory is put forward, if you wait long enough, another antithesis is put forward for this and so ends that theory and besides, theories are only for people who wish to speculate on cures and get themselves published and I have very little time for those people. I do not have children (nor will I) and so I realise my limitations on this topic. A lot of the people here do have children who are autistic and I do know that a lot of them may disagree with these words. I appreciate that I am not seeing this from the vantage point of a parent, probably the same as you would not see this from the vantage point of somebody who has autism. Yes, Mouse, it is quite common for autistic people not to feel physical pain. I do not like being touched by people I do not know and people who approach me with their hand extended because they wish to shake mine makes me recoil violently. I have one or two very sincere and good friends where I work now and a touch from them does not produce this reaction, but then I have worked with them for some time. I am really not the kind of person that makes friends easily, mainly due to the fact that I am not aware that most other people exist at all. I do " lose it " on occasion, although I am quite sure everybody at work does know I am autistic and so they seem to understand me well in that respect. I live alone and my mother keeps house for me and takes care of the day-to-day things here. If it was not for the fact that my family are actively involved in my life, I would not be able to live alone. If anything does ever happen to them, I will have to go into full-time residential care, as I have no abilities in this direction and cannot care for myself as I should. Being " alright " academically really does not count for much in the " real world, " Mouse, but then I am sure you already know that. I hope I have not pissed anybody off, I am genuinely sorry if I have. Ade! Re: Good! Why? > > > I read your e-mail and know how he felt. I have had > similar things like that happen to me. By the way, > so > all of us really get into swimming? I have yet to > meet > or hear of an autistic person that did not just love > to swim. Anyway, I went to a public school. My > parents > did not make a big deal out my autism even though I > was also in a special class for 2-3 hours a day. The > other kids were terrible to me. Several times I was > the only one not invited to a party when the rest of > my class was. I probably would not have gone but I > came home crying anyway. I don't think it instilled > a > bad attitude in me but to be honest, it did make me > even more aware of the difference between them and > me. > I never approach people. Never. One time I saw a > group > of deaf students, or at least they were signing and > not talking so I assume they were deaf, discussing > an > archaeology class that many of them would have and > the > teacher as well. I wanted so bad to join them as I > knew what they were talking about and I had even had > the class, but I couldn't. I just figured I would be > rejected. After all, I am autistic, not deaf. I > assumed I would be shot down. I do know that about 2 > years ago a girl that I went to school with came to > work where I work and asked me what exactly was the > matter with me. I wrote out the answer for her and > her > eyes got real teary. She said " you know, I don't > think > everyone would have been as mean to you if they had > known that you are autistic " . I started to write out > " it would not have mattered as the principal and the > teachers were mean too and they were aware I have > autism. My parents ignored the times that I was shot > down or hurt. I think if they had said something > like > " it's thier problem, not yours " or something like > that, it might have made me feel better. I think > they > did not know what to do either. I think some of the > schools I went to handled it better when the class > was > told I had autism. Kids are interested in " helping " > others and it brings out thier best. If the other > kids > simply think you are " retarded " , " psycho " or " weird " > then they don't want to associate with you. If they > think they are " helping " , then it becomes a little > easier for them. > I doubt I helped much but I just know how he felt > and > thought I should write. > Mouse > --- Lani Bass wrote: > > HELLO~ > > My 8-year-old son's school closed at the end of > this > > last school year. So, it has been a big deal > trying > > to establish for him what his new school will be > > like, who he might know there, etcetera. > Yesterday, > > we were swimming at the same pool where one of his > > classmates from the last two years was also > > swimming. I saw him swim up to her and overheard > > him asking her where she was going to school this > > year. She replied with the name of a different > > school name than the one he is going to. He told > > her he was going to the different school. She > > replied, " Good! " He, looking confused, asked > " Why? " > > She swam off away from him. I had been happy to > > hear him trying to interact, as he often just > > obsesses over swimming, the water, etcetera, and > > doesn't really interact with others. I now felt > sad > > for him about what he had just experienced. I > know > > my son can be overly hyperactive, obsessive about > > being first, invasive about personal space, and > > other things, but it is still hard to see his > > attempts at communication being crushed. I feel > > like this is the kind of thing that is just going > to > > bring out more bad attitude in him. I don't know > > what to do in situations like that. Also, I never > > know whether to talk to other kids about my son's > > autism or not. Sometimes, I think that I should > > explain so they might excuse some of his behavior, > > but other times, I am afraid of ruining his own > > chance to kind of make his own way and fit in > where > > he will. I am afraid making too big of a deal > about > > his autism will make other kids avoid him. He can > > often fit in fairly well. Any suggestions? > > ~LANIGet more from the Web. 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Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 HELLO~ Just as a note, I am the writer of the original e-mail that started this thread about kids being mean to my son. My son also has sensory problems that cause him to not feel pain, cold or heat normally. Of course, yes, who can say what is normal? But, anyway, he often has problems with thinking that people have hit him on purpose when they may have just brushed up against him, etcetera. He will react back negatively, and then, the misunderstanding can escalate. An occupational therapist diagnosed him with a kind of sensory disorder that is supposed to be common with autism. He also has a sensitivity to loud sounds and bright lights. Another thing of interest is that he sees things, wisps of color floating through the air, he used to think they were ghosts. I have been told this can go along with his sensory disorder, something about his senses getting mixed up. Anyway, so there are a lot of reasons why my son is wired a little differently, so, yes, I guess it is pretty amazing that he does try to communicate and fit in with other kids. Also, I agree with Mouse that it is interesting how much many autistic people love to swim. ~LANI Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Hi Lani, My son Lloyd, has a high threshhold of feeling pain, He jammed his fingers in the car door a couple of years ago and didnt even scream or cry - just asked for the door to be opened so he could get his fingers out ! He always had trouble with his left ear too (had a grommet when he was in kinder) - heaps of ear infections, but I didnt know there was anything wrong until yukky fluid ran out of his ear. Thank goodness he doesnt have that many problems with his ear now. He also just loves going to the beach (which isnt very often). Just cant get him out of the water! He will stay in for hours. Mum to Lloyd, 12yrs, AS Sydney NSW > >Reply-To: autism-aspergers >To: " Autism-Aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >Subject: Re: Good! Why? >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:55:44 -0700 > >HELLO~ >Just as a note, I am the writer of the original e-mail that started this >thread about kids being mean to my son. My son also has sensory problems >that cause him to not feel pain, cold or heat normally. Of course, yes, >who can say what is normal? But, anyway, he often has problems with >thinking that people have hit him on purpose when they may have just >brushed up against him, etcetera. He will react back negatively, and then, >the misunderstanding can escalate. An occupational therapist diagnosed him >with a kind of sensory disorder that is supposed to be common with autism. >He also has a sensitivity to loud sounds and bright lights. Another thing >of interest is that he sees things, wisps of color floating through the >air, he used to think they were ghosts. I have been told this can go along >with his sensory disorder, something about his senses getting mixed up. >Anyway, so there are a lot of reasons why my son is wired a little >differently, so, yes, I guess it is pretty amazing that he does try to >communicate and fit in with other kids. Also, I agree with Mouse that it >is interesting how much many autistic people love to swim. >~LANIGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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