Re: Twice a day isometrics

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I seriously doubt it. Muscle need rest to grow it should reduce the growth instead of doubling up.Jelks Cabaniss wrote: Have any of you tried running through the BW isometric exercises*twice* a day, say once in the morning and once in the evening?Beginners probably shouldn't do it, but if you've been using the BWfor say at least 3 months, I wonder if "doubling up" would helpfurther advances.Thanks,/Jelks

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I agree,I don't think it would work. In fact,after three months continuous training,Bullworker says you could work out just once a week to maintain your body and fitness. Richsaravana kumar wrote: I seriously doubt it. Muscle need rest to grow it should reduce the growth instead of doubling up.Jelks Cabaniss wrote: Have any of you tried running through the BW isometric exercises*twice* a day, say once in the morning and once in the evening?Beginners probably shouldn't do it, but if you've been using the

BWfor say at least 3 months, I wonder if "doubling up" would helpfurther advances.Thanks,/Jelks Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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The original work by H an M did not show any increase in strength by

doing more Iso work, ie longer contractions or more frequent work

outs. In fact, over time, strength could be maintained with few

workouts per week.

However, I believe that you could borrow a page from the olympic

weightlifting manual here is are going for increases in strength.

In this case, several " mini-workouts " a day may bring greater strength

gains. The key here is duration. I can see how brief holds of 6

seconds with rest in between can enhance your ability to generate more

force per hold.

The key is not to exhaust the neurology, which is really the key to

strength increases in using Isos. This is why Isos don't build great

muscle mass unless they are used for much longer hold periods.

The problem always with isos is how to measure your strength gains.

The power meter is not really very precise for this purpose.

Good luck.

>

> Have any of you tried running through the BW isometric exercises

> *twice* a day, say once in the morning and once in the evening?

>

> Beginners probably shouldn't do it, but if you've been using the BW

> for say at least 3 months, I wonder if " doubling up " would help

> further advances.

>

> Thanks,

>

> /Jelks

>

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If the bullworker power meter is not really very precise to measure the progress do you mean to say the spring tension differs for each subsequent hold? rrbelloff wrote: The original work by H an

M did not show any increase in strength bydoing more Iso work, ie longer contractions or more frequent workouts. In fact, over time, strength could be maintained with fewworkouts per week.However, I believe that you could borrow a page from the olympicweightlifting manual here is are going for increases in strength.In this case, several "mini-workouts" a day may bring greater strengthgains. The key here is duration. I can see how brief holds of 6seconds with rest in between can enhance your ability to generate moreforce per hold.The key is not to exhaust the neurology, which is really the key tostrength increases in using Isos. This is why Isos don't build greatmuscle mass unless they are used for much longer hold periods.The problem always with isos is how to measure your strength gains.The power meter is not really very precise for this purpose.Good

luck.>> Have any of you tried running through the BW isometric exercises> *twice* a day, say once in the morning and once in the evening?> > Beginners probably shouldn't do it, but if you've been using the BW> for say at least 3 months, I wonder if "doubling up" would help> further advances.> > Thanks,> > /Jelks>

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This is important because I use power meter to measure the adequate rest between the workouts. Let us say in my previous workout I am able to push the meter to 70 in my bicep curl if I am not able to push past 70 in this workout It indicates I need to take additional time off between the workouts. Thanks, Shravan Kumarsaravana kumar wrote: If the bullworker power meter is not

really very precise to measure the progress do you mean to say the spring tension differs for each subsequent hold? rrbelloff wrote: The original work by H an M did not show any increase in strength bydoing more Iso work, ie longer contractions or more frequent workouts. In fact, over time, strength could be maintained with fewworkouts per week.However, I believe that you could borrow a page from the olympicweightlifting manual here is are going for increases in strength.In this case, several "mini-workouts" a day may bring greater

strengthgains. The key here is duration. I can see how brief holds of 6seconds with rest in between can enhance your ability to generate moreforce per hold.The key is not to exhaust the neurology, which is really the key tostrength increases in using Isos. This is why Isos don't build greatmuscle mass unless they are used for much longer hold periods.The problem always with isos is how to measure your strength gains.The power meter is not really very precise for this purpose.Good luck.>> Have any of you tried running through the BW isometric exercises> *twice* a day, say once in the morning and once in the evening?> > Beginners probably shouldn't do it, but if you've been using the BW> for say at least 3 months, I wonder if "doubling up" would help> further

advances.> > Thanks,> > /Jelks> New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

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I thought his was an interesting line of thought so I figured I would throw my 2 cents in:

Let me tell you a little story,

I am, as many of you know, attempting and succeeding I lowering my body fat and increasing my strength and muscularity. I purchased a "fat caliper" device that measures body fat. Everyone I know was kind enough to point out that this inexpensive device is not "precise" enough, that it's just a piece of plastic, that I should purchase a "professional" fat caliper,( which by the way costs more then a Bully) so with all these experts all telling me I am wrong I finally came to this conclusion:

1. I am not looking for "exact or precise" body fat measurements. All I am looking for is a way to measure my progress.

2. Since this device could be off by 5% it could be a factor. But I don't care because if I measure myself the same way week in and week out it will give me a consistent result, knowing that it may not be my true body fat, but it does show me if I am moving in the right direction or not.

Since I have come to the conclusion that I am NOT "ANAL" enough, to really care how precise it is. I just want to be able to track my progress. You see what I am after is not a precise measurement, what I want is just plainly "RESULTS"

So what does this have to do with the "power meter" on the Bully? Well for holding the contraction at 100% and to give me feedback on whether or not I am improving , it does the job. Of course if any one has the time or inclination to develop a "precise" and completely "accurate" way of measuring this, please don't contact me , since I will be too busy admiring my lean and muscular Bully built body.

(this post is not meant to insult anyone, just simple to perhaps point you in what I believe to be the right direction)

-----Original Message-----From: bullworkerclub [mailto:bullworkerclub ]On Behalf Of saravana kumarSent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:32 PMTo: bullworkerclub Subject: Re: Re: Twice a day isometrics

This is important because I use power meter to measure the adequate rest between the workouts. Let us say in my previous workout I am able to push the meter to 70 in my bicep curl if I am not able to push past 70 in this workout It indicates I need to take additional time off between the workouts.

Thanks,

Shravan Kumarsaravana kumar wrote: If the bullworker power meter is not really very precise to measure the progress do you mean to say the spring tension differs for each subsequent hold? rrbelloff wrote: The original work by H an M did not show any increase in strength bydoing more Iso work, ie longer contractions or more frequent workouts. In fact, over time, strength could be maintained with fewworkouts per week.However, I believe that you could borrow a page from the olympicweightlifting manual here is are going for increases in strength.In this case, several "mini-workouts" a day may bring greater strengthgains. The key here is duration. I can see how brief holds of 6seconds with rest in between can enhance your ability to generate moreforce per hold.The key is not to exhaust the neurology, which is really the key tostrength increases in using Isos. This is why Isos don't build greatmuscle mass unless they are used for much longer hold periods.The problem always with isos is how to measure your strength gains.The power meter is not really very precise for this purpose.Good luck.

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" since I will be too busy admiring my lean and muscular Bully built body "

I'd be careful there, Bert. Vanity is a dangerous thing!

The original work by

H an M did not show any increase in strength by

> doing more Iso work, ie longer contractions or more frequent work

> outs. In fact, over time, strength could be maintained with few

> workouts per week.

>

> However, I believe that you could borrow a page from the olympic

> weightlifting manual here is are going for increases in strength.

>

> In this case, several " mini-workouts " a day may bring greater

strength

> gains. The key here is duration. I can see how brief holds of 6

> seconds with rest in between can enhance your ability to

generate more

> force per hold.

>

> The key is not to exhaust the neurology, which is really the

key to

> strength increases in using Isos. This is why Isos don't build

great

> muscle mass unless they are used for much longer hold periods.

>

> The problem always with isos is how to measure your strength

gains.

> The power meter is not really very precise for this purpose.

>

> Good luck.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Interesting. You touch on two issues here: increasing strength, and

building muscle mass.

*Regular* bullworker use definitely increases strength and builds *some*

muscle mass. Are you implying (in your last paragraph below) that longer

hold times will build *more* muscle mass?

In other words, if you held for a count of 30 instead of the

usually-recommend 10, would you buff up better?

Thanks,

/Jelks

" rrbelloff " wrote:

> The original work by H an M did not show any increase in strength by

> doing more Iso work, ie longer contractions or more frequent work

> outs. In fact, over time, strength could be maintained with few

> workouts per week.

>

> However, I believe that you could borrow a page from the olympic

> weightlifting manual here is are going for increases in strength.

>

> In this case, several " mini-workouts " a day may bring greater strength

> gains. The key here is duration. I can see how brief holds of 6

> seconds with rest in between can enhance your ability to generate more

> force per hold.

>

> The key is not to exhaust the neurology, which is really the key to

> strength increases in using Isos. This is why Isos don't build great

> muscle mass unless they are used for much longer hold periods.

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BERT HERNANDEZ wrote:

> I am, as many of you know, attempting and succeeding I lowering my

> body fat and increasing my strength and muscularity. I purchased a

> " fat caliper " device that measures body fat.

Bert, which other methods besides bullworker do you use to lower body fat?

Also, is your " fat caliper " (never heard of those before) available in the

U.S.? If so, what kind is it (manufacturer/model). I'd like to pick up one

of those.

Thanks,

/Jelks

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Yes, there is data on isos that indicates that muscle mass increases

are greater with longer holds. Strength increases are actually

better with shorter holds.

This is similar to the time under tension priniple in weight

training. It is also why competitive lifters are less massive but

stronger than body builders.

Good stuff.

> > The original work by H an M did not show any increase in

strength by

> > doing more Iso work, ie longer contractions or more frequent work

> > outs. In fact, over time, strength could be maintained with few

> > workouts per week.

> >

> > However, I believe that you could borrow a page from the olympic

> > weightlifting manual here is are going for increases in strength.

> >

> > In this case, several " mini-workouts " a day may bring greater

strength

> > gains. The key here is duration. I can see how brief holds of 6

> > seconds with rest in between can enhance your ability to

generate more

> > force per hold.

> >

> > The key is not to exhaust the neurology, which is really the key

to

> > strength increases in using Isos. This is why Isos don't build

great

> > muscle mass unless they are used for much longer hold periods.

>

[Guest guest]

" rrbelloff " wrote:

> Yes, there is data on isos that indicates that muscle mass increases

> are greater with longer holds. Strength increases are actually

> better with shorter holds.

Thanks. Very helpful info.

> This is similar to the time under tension priniple in weight

> training. It is also why competitive lifters are less massive

> but stronger than body builders.

I'm really not familiar with weight training (except that I have some hand

weights and a 30 lb barbell that I use occasionally) -- what is the

difference between competitive lifting and body building?

/Jelks

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richard pancoast wrote:

> > Bert, which other methods besides bullworker do you use to lower

> > body fat?

> Bullworker recommends a few methods, walking and or jogging being

> the best.

I guess I knew that. Just hoping for the lazy man's answer -- Bully's

gotten me spoiled.

/Jelks

[Guest guest]

Competitive weighlifters are competing to life the most weight.

There are olymipic lifters and power lifters. These folks train

similarly, and they compete in weight classes. The object is to

life the most weight in your weight class.

Overall, these guys train for the most strength per lbs of

bodyweight so they try to minimize body mass and max on the

strength. They tend to do many sets with lots of weight and low

reps. They tend to have long rest periods between sets. There is

no " pump " needed here, just lots of weight.

Bodybuilders are almost the polar opposite. They want mass and more

muscle, want to gain weight and don't really care how strong they

are, since they are competing on how " good " they look.

They tend to do many sets, many reps and lower poundage. They go for

pump and more pump.

There is more but that is a primer.

-- In bullworkerclub , " Jelks Cabaniss "

wrote:

>

> " rrbelloff " wrote:

> > Yes, there is data on isos that indicates that muscle mass

increases

> > are greater with longer holds. Strength increases are actually

> > better with shorter holds.

>

> Thanks. Very helpful info.

>

> > This is similar to the time under tension priniple in weight

> > training. It is also why competitive lifters are less massive

> > but stronger than body builders.

>

> I'm really not familiar with weight training (except that I have

some hand

> weights and a 30 lb barbell that I use occasionally) -- what is the

> difference between competitive lifting and body building?

>

>

> /Jelks

>

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Spring's here-great time to start walking if haven't already. Swimming,actual swimming,is a great exercises,too. RichJelks Cabaniss wrote: richard pancoast wrote:> > Bert, which other methods besides bullworker do you use to lower> > body fat? > Bullworker recommends a few methods, walking and or jogging being> the best. I guess I knew that. Just hoping for the lazy man's answer -- Bully'sgotten me spoiled. :)/Jelks

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