Re: Flagyl not working...please HELP...

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The homeopath figured it out and blood test confirmed antibodies because she was still fighting it.

Re: Flagyl not working...please HELP...

How did you figure out it was diptheria in the gut from the vaccine?

Di

> >

> > I would suggest seeing a GI doc - especially if Flagyl isn't

> working.

> > Flagyl was my sons wonder drug before we were scoped by Dr.

> Krigsman.

> > Since starting treatment for his GI issues - he sleeps through

the

> > night and acquisition rate in school and home has increased. It's

> been

> > the best treatment to date.

> >

> > How long is your course of Flagyl? We do 10 days - perhaps you

> should

> > suspend the Flagyl and see if he feels better??

> >

> > Laureen

> >

> > Quoting diatplay <diatplay@>:

> >

> > > I am so sad for Mackie, does anyone have any advice or

> encouragement to

> > > offer...this sucks. Matt is eating roat chicken, only pear now,

> and

> > > even sipping his bone broths to get his chicken...and darn it

he

> still

> > > has the white tongue and some spaciness despite being on

Nizoral,

> > > taking all his PTC supps each day, and valtrex 3 day, spaced

> about 3

> > > 1/2-5 hours apart, max. He is on flagyl also for a confirmed by

> stool

> > > test overgrowth...AND IT ISN'T WORKING...his gut remains very

> bloated

> > > as well and though we are getting one stool a day, and it is

more

> browm

> > > than green now, it is unformed mush again, and still pretty

> foul...this

> > > POOR kid...any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he did

et

> some

> > > soaked pecans for the past two days...was tht enough to derail

> him? His

> > > eye contact isn't greta, we are seeing a bit more toe walking

than

> > > usual - constipation no doubt - but his language and other

areas

> are

> > > gaining each day, so it isn;t ALL bad...i cannot stand to see

him

> > > suffer so though...

> > >

> > > BACTERIA, YEAST, and constipation...we are losing the battle in

> this

> > > house please tell me what to do....thanks.

> > >

> > > Di .

> > >

> > >

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Di, Everything you say makes alot of sense to me..... we actually bought the BED book at the DAN conference in Cherry Hill but have not read it yet. We just started MHBOT and really hope that helps with his gut. We have only been able to do 2hrs a day because my son has a come down with a cold. You are absolutely right about us parents not taking care of ourselves. We are just so desperate trying to get our kids back. As far as the drug resistant bacteria (like mrsa), fungi and parasites I don't think diet although I could be wrong can give us immunity for these infections. We are definitely going to read the BED book and start the kefir water. I thank you so much for your help.diatplay wrote: ...that post about Dr Krigsman ultimately said that what worked only worked temporarily, and what didn't...well, didn't. Stan does not like the gut drugs, and when I researched them...neither do I - big time...I would go with Goldberg's ssri stuff before I would go near the steroid treatments and other gut stuff that GI docs resort to. I think there is no quick fix for the gut stuff, and no long term health without lifestyle changes that go beyond gfcf - which simply eliminates -but I have yet to meet a kid that has been healed that route....they are on it forever and exist in a group vulnerable to colon cancers

and other serious health issues...for $99 you can get the cd set of the Body Ecology conference, and if you have a yeasty bacteria kid as we do I really think the widsom of the scd and bed is our best hope. What good does it do to go through all this only to have our kids stop being autistic, per se, but not armed to make sure it NEVER happens to the next generation....it started in vitro in THIS house...and the shot injured him, true, but the vit and mineral deficiences and poor gut flora set him up for it...intestinal healing has to happen...and the gut docs and drugs can never offer you that. My dd can even eat a bit of gluten, sugar, does GREAT on raw milk...and she had issues, though less severe than her brother's of course....but diet changes, a run of diflucan and valtrex, and the fermented food and concepts of the SCD and BED totally and completely changed her life...and she WILL know what to eat so

that she lives long, well, cancer free always, and never ever has to fear pregnancy or autism crap....pour your energy into that, not pursuing a Krigsman scope...to what end even if he comes back with your child's gut is a MESS....you cannot be on the gut drugs long term and their side effects are SERIOUS. All of this is just my opinion of course, each family must find their own way...but I ache for the kids I have met out there who are "recovered" but remain on special diets most of which include highly processed foods still and many products that the Weston PRice folks and BED and SCD say are actually bad for you, esp long term...and the kids still have issues, most of them...and the parents are worn out tired looking and also not eating that well. They NEED HBOT, Ozone, tons of supps and vits too bc they are a mess and look it, God Bless them all -exp since we are still in that camp ourselves, though

getting better and looking better day by day, bit by bit...I know three mums struggling to recover their kids at this time who have or have had breast cancer in the last two years. The father who recovered his kids and started BrainChild...died of pancreatic cancer very recently....yes our kids are sick, but they came out of OUR bodies and it is not just the vaccines. The absence of enough folic acid is a cause of spina bifida, proven, accepted, mainstream med belief...not alternative in the least...the deficiencies we had and HAVE in our gut flora, our amounts of vitamin A and D and other things....are the root cause of what is happening to all these kids. My son staring at a wall with an injured brain and gut is just ME in thirty or forty years with my alzheimers, Lou Gehrig's disease or cancer...the whole family needs to be examined and the root cause of what is presenting as autism addressed and

healed. This stuff doesn't just go away and it isn't just autism...I swear to you that Stan is right about this...there are autoimmune issues and signs of poor health, esp gut health in ALL the families of those who have kids who present on the spectrum, without exception....I have never ever seen a vibrantly healthy, whole foods, mostly raw foods( at least 50% of the diet, non caffien drinking, limited sugar intake, adequate amounts of excercise...family walk through the doors of any of these clinics, doctors offices, pharmacies, and therpay centers...EVER. Not once...I see thin tired moms and dad with big ass Starbucks...like the ones we were both holding when we dragged ourselves to meet Stan for the first time with Matt in tow...most of the parents have thyroid issues or adrenal issues0usually unrecognized and undiagnosed of course....and it is all about their KID of course, no one has the time

or energy to treat themselves bc all focus is on the family member presenting the most severely...most of the moms are fat, their weisght jsut exploded with theri pregnancies and they do not know why ( thyroid and adrenals issues) with most of the weight carried around their middles and bums and thighs...heartattack and cancer weight - it is ALL related.......I send and say this with love, 70 pounds lighter without trying, no gym membership, and a more than full time load with three kids 4 and under and Matt still recovering from his autism diagnosis and all his gut issues...and having BEEN to the gut guys at UCLA...such a waste of time and money and misguided hope....spend it on GOOD food for yourself and eventually your child with "autism"once his gut is healed enough to tolerate more and more foods...save the plane fare and spend it on BED book, Nourishing Traditions Cookbook,a couple of ones I can

rec on making vegetables family friendly and DELICIOUS...and make the Farmers Market near you a regualr family outing. Live long, live well, teach your children how to navigate this crazy world with all its drug resistant bacteria, fungi, parasites etc through healthy choices...and lets all grow old together with our kids helping other people's kids recover from THEIR cancers, autoimmune issues, and the shock of autism in their kids kids....we will know how to help them bc we saved ourselves first. Best of luck....listen to the advice in posts where theer is success and LISTEN to how many parents found the gut doc gut drug route a big deadend ultimately....Love, Di> > I would suggest seeing a GI doc - especially if Flagyl isn't working. > Flagyl was my sons wonder drug before we were scoped by Dr. Krigsman. > Since starting treatment for his GI issues - he sleeps through the > night and acquisition rate in school and home has increased. It's been > the best treatment to date.> > How long is your course of Flagyl? We do 10 days - perhaps you should > suspend the Flagyl and see if he feels better??> > Laureen> > Quoting diatplay

:> > > I am so sad for Mackie, does anyone have any advice or encouragement to> > offer...this sucks. Matt is eating roat chicken, only pear now, and> > even sipping his bone broths to get his chicken...and darn it he still> > has the white tongue and some spaciness despite being on Nizoral,> > taking all his PTC supps each day, and valtrex 3 day, spaced about 3> > 1/2-5 hours apart, max. He is on flagyl also for a confirmed by stool> > test overgrowth...AND IT ISN'T WORKING...his gut remains very bloated> > as well and though we are getting one stool a day, and it is more browm> > than green now, it is unformed mush again, and still pretty foul...this> > POOR kid...any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he did et some> > soaked pecans for the past two days...was tht enough to derail

him? His> > eye contact isn't greta, we are seeing a bit more toe walking than> > usual - constipation no doubt - but his language and other areas are> > gaining each day, so it isn;t ALL bad...i cannot stand to see him> > suffer so though...> >> > BACTERIA, YEAST, and constipation...we are losing the battle in this> > house please tell me what to do....thanks.> >> > Di .> >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.>

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Stan didn't do HBOT with his son until he was almost recovered. I

asked...my friend did it and the gains were temproary..much like the

effects/gains with any and all the drugs we give our kids ...in the

absence of diet changes - those changes yeild permanent gians and

recover from what I can tell....valtrex and the antifungals would NOT

have saved Stan's son on a diet with lots of carbs, any sugar, or

foods that were IGG or allergy foods...I am sure he would tell you

this...the diet stuff is crucial...figuring it out for YOUR child and

then pouring your resources - time and money - into getting whatever

works on board. on this list spent her money on ABA to get

those BED foods and lifestyle on board...and has an almost recovered

child to show for her efforts...without the rotations of drugs, HBOT,

special saunas and so on....it isn't a quick fix, but in the end it

will be the only permanet one across generations...I wish your family

the best. We are on valtrex and nizoral and the PTC supps protocol

at this time...but the diet has bneen one of the biggest

interventions so far...and I know that if my son would eat those BED

foods he would get well, not eating the stuff forbidden on SCD has

given us eye contact, language gains, less gut pain, and no more

diahrea....all in under six months. Matt just repeated Happy Mothers

Day to me with prompts from dad and said I Uv Ooo on his own...he was

nonverbal and we were toldhe might never speak last year...Thank God

for the SCD and BED and those who have already gone down those roads

who will help and support you if you decide to dive in...Di

> >

> > I would suggest seeing a GI doc - especially if Flagyl isn't

> working.

> > Flagyl was my sons wonder drug before we were scoped by Dr.

> Krigsman.

> > Since starting treatment for his GI issues - he sleeps through

the

> > night and acquisition rate in school and home has increased. It's

> been

> > the best treatment to date.

> >

> > How long is your course of Flagyl? We do 10 days - perhaps you

> should

> > suspend the Flagyl and see if he feels better??

> >

> > Laureen

> >

> > Quoting diatplay <diatplay@>:

> >

> > > I am so sad for Mackie, does anyone have any advice or

> encouragement to

> > > offer...this sucks. Matt is eating roat chicken, only pear now,

> and

> > > even sipping his bone broths to get his chicken...and darn it

he

> still

> > > has the white tongue and some spaciness despite being on

Nizoral,

> > > taking all his PTC supps each day, and valtrex 3 day, spaced

> about 3

> > > 1/2-5 hours apart, max. He is on flagyl also for a confirmed by

> stool

> > > test overgrowth...AND IT ISN'T WORKING...his gut remains very

> bloated

> > > as well and though we are getting one stool a day, and it is

more

> browm

> > > than green now, it is unformed mush again, and still pretty

> foul...this

> > > POOR kid...any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he did

et

> some

> > > soaked pecans for the past two days...was tht enough to derail

> him? His

> > > eye contact isn't greta, we are seeing a bit more toe walking

than

> > > usual - constipation no doubt - but his language and other

areas

> are

> > > gaining each day, so it isn;t ALL bad...i cannot stand to see

him

> > > suffer so though...

> > >

> > > BACTERIA, YEAST, and constipation...we are losing the battle in

> this

> > > house please tell me what to do....thanks.

> > >

> > > Di .

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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How diet plays a key role in parasites, fungal infections, dybiosis

is that the brings the immune system into balance so it can fight as

it should.

An acidic diet filled with flour baked goods will create a nice

environment for overgrowth. An alkalizing diet such as BEdiet

helps to bring infections under control.

Meds or supplements may be necessary, but they are sure to be more

effective if diet is supporting body functions. I think this is what

autism is teaching us. We need a shift in thinking and autism

certainly forces change.

> >

> > I would suggest seeing a GI doc - especially if Flagyl isn't

> working.

> > Flagyl was my sons wonder drug before we were scoped by Dr.

> Krigsman.

> > Since starting treatment for his GI issues - he sleeps through

the

> > night and acquisition rate in school and home has increased. It's

> been

> > the best treatment to date.

> >

> > How long is your course of Flagyl? We do 10 days - perhaps you

> should

> > suspend the Flagyl and see if he feels better??

> >

> > Laureen

> >

> > Quoting diatplay <diatplay@>:

> >

> > > I am so sad for Mackie, does anyone have any advice or

> encouragement to

> > > offer...this sucks. Matt is eating roat chicken, only pear now,

> and

> > > even sipping his bone broths to get his chicken...and darn it

he

> still

> > > has the white tongue and some spaciness despite being on

Nizoral,

> > > taking all his PTC supps each day, and valtrex 3 day, spaced

> about 3

> > > 1/2-5 hours apart, max. He is on flagyl also for a confirmed by

> stool

> > > test overgrowth...AND IT ISN'T WORKING...his gut remains very

> bloated

> > > as well and though we are getting one stool a day, and it is

more

> browm

> > > than green now, it is unformed mush again, and still pretty

> foul...this

> > > POOR kid...any advice would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he did

et

> some

> > > soaked pecans for the past two days...was tht enough to derail

> him? His

> > > eye contact isn't greta, we are seeing a bit more toe walking

than

> > > usual - constipation no doubt - but his language and other

areas

> are

> > > gaining each day, so it isn;t ALL bad...i cannot stand to see

him

> > > suffer so though...

> > >

> > > BACTERIA, YEAST, and constipation...we are losing the battle in

> this

> > > house please tell me what to do....thanks.

> > >

> > > Di .

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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