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NOW IF I COULD ONLY TEACH HER TO PUMP HERSELF IN THE SWING.

KASSIANE, *WHEN* ARE YOU COMING TO HELP IN THIS MATTER???????

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This summer. post school. If 2 conditions are met:

1. You are serious

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2. I can afford it.

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Not much of a dairy girl. However she did end up going to the pediatrician

today and has a double ear infection and a sinus infection. Maybe thats why she

was so weepy. Who know's. I guess that I wont worry.

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Abby's Mom

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never did that at age 6. I would personally check her

diet then worry about her hormone level. My brother loved milk and hed

break out with it all the time. Sometimes choclate does the trick with

pimples too.

Charlene

-- RE:Abby

I have a question for anybody on the list, but I would really like Sondra

and

Kassiane to put their input in to.

Lately Abby has been very emotional and weepy, almost PMS like. I have

noticed more pimples on her body in the last 2-3 weeks. Mind you this in a

child

that most people say looks like a porceline doll, her skin has always been

flawless. (Except those bruises from jumping off the couch! LOL) She just

turned 6

in April and I am just wondering if this is something 6 year old do? Or

should

I even be concerned?

Thanks.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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Now that you have an answer sure helps. I hope it clears up soon!

Charlene

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Not much of a dairy girl. However she did end up going to the pediatrician

today and has a double ear infection and a sinus infection. Maybe thats why

she

was so weepy. Who know's. I guess that I wont worry.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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Pennie have been busy but will add some insight to my own weepy times as a

child, increased awareness to things I to lacked ability to express and or

communicate to others of a want or need. Also even to this day can have a

change in mood with no warning and can be to feel as though something

terrible has just been to happen. I to also if to be of sick but was not

getting body signals to brain until much pronounced often caused the

weepiness because I to lacked in knowing for example it was my ears or my

throat or what ever it was to be so could not be to share this but felt a

much not right int he body that caused my sensory to be out of sync. So all

things tobe of a heightened alert state which caused em to react to all

things.

Sondra

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This happens almost everytime Abby gets sick, she is either very mean or

cranky, she has recently started the weepiness. Makes sense about her brain not

getting the signals. Although there may be no physical symptoms yet the behavoir

always starts about 3-5 days before. Hmm, very interesting Sondra.

Pennie

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Where would I be without your insight? You are wonderful. Have you talked

with Kassiane? I havent seen her on lately and I know she was having a hard

time.

Also, How did your poetry (it was poetry, wasent it?) reading, over the

weekend? If it was something else I am sorry I dont remember.

Pennie

Abby's mom

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Pennie because some of us are hypersensitive and can detect things going

wrong very early in our bodies but cannot be to process it and or find the

words so we to know and often dont be to associate the pains to body and

connect the two. Some can but my body is to be to not get the messages until

strong symptoms due emerge such as fever, vomiting . For me I to be to get

tired and moody about 3 days before any symptoms of illness show its self. I

to be learning to read if you will these signals. I can be to feel headaches

and nausea though. But sometime ear infections and strep throat will be like

bad headache to me.

Sondra

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I to be to had 2 speaking events last week one I to be just as guest and to

be to speaked there reading some of my poems. I to be to sole 6 of my books

that day and 4 the one that was an hour speaking event. They to liked me too

and be to asked me to come back again this coming week to speak to the

middle school.

Sondra

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Congratulations, Sondra!!

It must give you such a warm feeling inside knowing that people enjoy

your poetry. I wish I had what it takes to be a good poet. My stuff is

very Roses are red violets are blue...you know, just not what it takes!

You should be proud of yourself.

Here's one of those cyber hugs coming from me. Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,

Rhonda

Olivia's mom

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Sondra, How can I get Abby to be more conversational? Abby will talk about

Disney Princesses and cartoons but I just cant get her to be conversational. I

dont know, are 6 year like that anyways? NT or autistic? Maybe I am just

expecting to much.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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Yes she to be to be much like me in this. I to be to have gone to the dr.

because of much change in sleep and behavior and much tears and meltdowns to

find I to be with double ear infections and strep throat not knowing this

thinking just to be to have bad headaches. I to be to have had bladder and

kidney infections and had no clue until the blood in urine but for weeks had

been so much fussy over everything. not want of to eat and not having a clue

as to why. I to be just be learning this of self more so this year about

symptoms of illness to me is when my sleep patterns go off and moods emerge

that something is of wrong to me. Often I to be like you have gone to the

doctors and they to not find nothing but a few days later I to be to go back

and find much illness.

Sondra

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Pennie , it will be to practice by getting her to use words to communicate ,

by refusing for a few minutes of an interaction to not allow princess talk

until she talks to you about something different. Such as read a book about

learning of baby animals. Talk to her and model to her simple questions so

she learnes to ask them. Help her to be to form a simple question to ask of

you in a turn taking way. After about two turns each thank her for playing

with you and then spend equal time with her in the princess things. Yet

while she is there increase her awareness to things in her environment that

can be to have similarities to the thinking she to be to have and such like

if the princess to have jewels take about your jewelry and pretty dresses

and shoes and such. Also get her games where she to have to interact that

has similar themes of her interest such as the pretty princess game. You can

be to also use this tool as incentive as if the game to win you have to

collect al the jewels you can use the jewels each day as tokens and if she

earns all the jewels each day she gets whatever reward you to set in place

to her. ( but please do not be to use the words " if she gets them

all-jewels " that she is of a princess , because if she to not be to get them

she will see herself as less than to you for not being a princess)Use her

interest to reach her but add to it more thinkings.

My therapist to be to still do this to me when much stressed and or anxious

will use my interest of trees to reach me with complete attention. why I to

not be to know why but it works even for me now, because when my brain hears

trees it is of great interest to wonder what one might share about the trees

to me.

Sondra

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Sondra

I have to tell you how much I appreciate your input on our discussions.

It really helps to get your point of view. I know when Skylar used to

get ear infections she would be cranky for a couple of days, no sleeping

etc, but no fever. I would take her to the Dr. and he would say her

ears look fine and then 3 days later I would take her back again and

there would be an ear infection. She knew that something was wrong

before the Dr. could see it. Now I understand how. I never thought of

her hypersensitivity and being able to detect that something was wrong

in her body before it was easily seen.

Thanks for sharing with us Sondra.

Tracey.

Sondra wrote:

> Pennie because some of us are hypersensitive and can detect things going

> wrong very early in our bodies but cannot be to process it and or

> find the

> words so we to know and often dont be to associate the pains to body and

> connect the two. Some can but my body is to be to not get the messages

> until

> strong symptoms due emerge such as fever, vomiting . For me I to be to get

> tired and moody about 3 days before any symptoms of illness show its

> self. I

> to be learning to read if you will these signals. I can be to feel

> headaches

> and nausea though. But sometime ear infections and strep throat will

> be like

> bad headache to me.

> Sondra

>

>

>

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Sondra

That is great about your poetry reading. You must be very proud of

yourself. I love poetry and think it is such a beautiful way to express

oneself. I cannot write poetry myself but I love to read it.

Tracey

Sondra wrote:

> I to be to had 2 speaking events last week one I to be just as guest

> and to

> be to speaked there reading some of my poems. I to be to sole 6 of my

> books

> that day and 4 the one that was an hour speaking event. They to liked

> me too

> and be to asked me to come back again this coming week to speak to the

> middle school.

> Sondra

>

>

>

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I have tried alot of those suggustions already, she will have a conversation

as long as it is just question and answer. Occasionally she will start one but

very rarely. She had a wonderful IEP 2 weeks ago, her reading is that of a

4th, grader her speech is at 94%, but her weak point is always social skills and

conversation. She acts like she doesnt see a point in small talk, maybe she

doesnt. For the most part I think I deal with her autism well, I just accept

her for who she is. Lately I have had a hard time, I just worry. I think because

she is leaving Ellens program and moveing on to another one. Ellen

wont even be in the same school as Abby will be placed in. I am worried about

the new teacher understanding her. Ellen has had her since she was 2 years

old! 4 years have gone by and I know that when she is in PPI that she is safe

and that she is understood. Ellen knows Abby's limits yet never

underestimates her. She is firm yet loveing at the same time. She is her teacher

and her

friend and Abby trusts her and knows that she understands her. I am just

nervous about the whole thing.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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pennie you are to be asking for social conversations of back and forth. Many

adults with ASD never reach that level, we can be to script back much

thinking when asked a question of things we to know but it is often not of a

relatedness skill to socialize. I can be to do back and forth and such but

often it is of not of social base but information's based. We are logical

and fact based peoples and it is hard for us to be e to understand small

talk. Small talk has no real purpose but to allow words to be to come with

no intent at times it is just a rambling of words. To us it is often of

uninteresting and painful to endure the interaction of one who wants to so

call chit chat. Occasionally though one will be to attract our attention

long enough to bring us in a emotional base of back and forth of words but

not for long as we usually needs to be to go back to the factual things. Our

brains are somewhat mechanical in the sense we absorb data and we organize

it in our brains and it is used as a guide if you will to life the only

things wrong with this is our computer brain does not understand

alternatives and or change to the file as it was set in our heads. So for

this one might be to hear never say NO to an adult so in them they might

have this internal rule that it is of much bad to ever say NO to an adult ,

but we might not have been able to add the exceptions to the rule parts so

to use their is no exceptions tolerated, because our brain stored the rule

as is and nothing else was stored with the file in regards to that thinking.

We even build in much anxiety if we observe others breaking this rule, we

internalize it as though we broke the words and such and often can meltdown

over someone else infractions. You can be to teach Abby to comment on words

shred to her. Like if a friend to say I to get a new dog? Teach Abby by

modeling and cuing how to respond to the words and person. If she have no

eye contact dont be to force it but have her at least turn her body to face

the person she is of talking to and maybe cue her to ask basic questions to

show interest such as what color is your dog? Or is it a girl or boy? Or

what did you name it. These little cues helps her to respond which is more

important than appearing uninterested in a peers sharing. Then maybe you can

cue Abby to share about her pets or what pet she would most like to have.

Eventually this helps build in conversations.She will need maybe it modeled

in unstructured settings and will need the cues in the beginning.

Then fade out your supports.

Sondra

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