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YEah..

SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for

. Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her

and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that

they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible.

BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults " with

therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach " . HUH? I

thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my

other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign

language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process

of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs

potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back.

ly,

with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now "

to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied " or

cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have

scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I

can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not

mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.

Any

help, advice etc etc.

steph

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Never believe what school tells you with out looking it up yourself. There is no way anyone here can tell you how your school district works, unless they are in your district.Get the correct information from your State Board of Education site. If it's very confusing, try calling them!! I would tell the school that I am willing to have her evaluated for therapies ONLY...no cognitive/educational issues and then ask for apts with the therapist for those evauls and to set up a time.Most schools do require an IEP to get therapies. We had ST for two older sons while we homeschooled and both had IEP's, with just the speech goals. So an IEP is good thing and a place you will be able to put into writing a very detailed list of what you want, and what you don't

want.I would NEVER let a school official into my home in the way they are asking....If you don't feel qualified to handle this, you need legal help or just get therapy somewhere else. Carol in IL AIM doihavtasay1 GigaTribe doihavtasayMom to seven including , 7 with

TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me. Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DownSyndromeInfoExchange/ Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic----- Original Message ----To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:46:46 PMSubject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] IEP help.. panicYEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults" with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach" . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back. ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now" to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied" or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that is bologna. Any help, advice etc etc. steph

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Well see that is just the thing. They are telling me that if I refuse evaluations that they can file a DUE PROCESS against me and or Mediation with the Ohio Dept of Ed. Its in the hand out " whose Idea is it anyway? " from the dept of education.

Sounded crazy to me. Our state does not have a compulsory age under 6. So I don't see how they could force this on me.

Steph

[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] IEP help.. panic

YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults" with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach" . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back.

ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now" to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied" or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.

Any help, advice etc etc.

steph

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The school is lying to you. You can do walk in therapies. Tell them you would like to go to mediation. It doesn't cost anything, but then they will think you know your rights and will work with you more. You do need to start learning your rights. But yes you are entitled to walk in therapies!

Lori

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From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of CarlsonSent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:47 PMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] IEP help.. panic

YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults" with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach" . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back.

ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now" to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied" or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.

Any help, advice etc etc.

steph

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Where can I find that ?? is it a federal regulation or something I can print out and take in with me.

Thanks

Steph

[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] IEP help.. panic

YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults" with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach" . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back.

ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now" to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied" or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.

Any help, advice etc etc.

steph

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The other question is where are my rights?? Is it buried in Idea?

Steph

[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] IEP help.. panic

YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults" with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach" . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back.

ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now" to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied" or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.

Any help, advice etc etc.

steph

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I'm not from IL, but I know that in TN we have a state law that is

called NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. My son is only 19 months but he is

already register to start school when he turns 3. My case worker

that comes once a month did that for me when he was born.

>

> Never believe what school tells you with out looking it up

yourself.

> There is no way anyone here can tell you how your school district

works, unless they are in your district.

> Get the correct information from your State Board of Education

site. If it's very confusing, try calling them!!

>

> I would tell the school that I am willing to have her evaluated

for therapies ONLY...no cognitive/educational issues and then ask

for apts with the therapist for those evauls and to set up a time.

>

> Most schools do require an IEP to get therapies. We had ST for two

older sons while we homeschooled and both had IEP's, with just the

speech goals. So an IEP is good thing and a place you will be able

to put into writing a very detailed list of what you want, and what

you don't want.

>

> I would NEVER let a school official into my home in the way they

are asking....

>

>

> If you don't feel qualified to handle this, you need legal help or

just get therapy somewhere else.

>

>

>

> Carol in IL

>

> AIM doihavtasay1 GigaTribe doihavtasay

> Mom to seven including , 7 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS,

Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.

>

> My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

>

>

> Join our Down Syndrome information group -

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DownSyndromeInfoExchange/

>

> Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic

>

>

>

> [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] IEP help.. panic

>

>

> YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to

> test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is

Sept

> 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for

therapy. I was

> told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by

the school

> district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a

teacher who "

> consults " with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach " .

HUH? I

> thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did

not send my

> other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter

recognition, sign

> language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is

in the process

> of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that

when she signs

> potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set

back.

>

> ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they

> waited on purpose till " now " to do her testing - I am feeling

rather " bullied "

> or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child.

They have

> scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which

I am told I

> can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly.

Observe does not

> mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.

>

> Any help, advice etc etc.

>

> steph

>

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You should be able to find it at your state DOE, call them if you can't find it on the website. States are different in what they allow for homeschoolers.

ette

--------- [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] IEP help.. panic

YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults" with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach" . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back.

ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now" to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied" or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.

Any help, advice etc etc.

steph

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph!!!

First rule to remember.........YOU hold the highest card when it comes to your

child's education including evaluations, decisions and the day someone tells me

I am told I cannot observe ANY testing on either of my girls and that order is

executed you better check with Hell because it will have frozen over!!!! LOL!!!!

Last year, at the end of the school year we had a meeting for my 7 year old

where all the " experts " and therapist and school principal were in attendance.

They suggested we move our daughter to another school in the district where they

said they were better equipped for my daughter's needs. I checked out the school

and it was smaller, dirty and I was not impressed with the heavy handedness they

treated the kids. A little girl with DS started to run up to me and one of the

aids that was built like a prison matron practically knocked this little girl

down. I made it clear it was fine and then the little girl took me by the hand

to show me what she was coloring and hugged me. Needless to say there was NO WAY

IN HELL my little girl was going there.

Then I went home and got on the net. If you type the right questions in Google

you will eventually find what you are looking for. What I was looking for was a

site that rated schools in my state/district. Low and behold this school is the

LOWEST RATED SCHOOL in the district! Some parents went so far as to buy houses a

street or two over to avoid being in the boundaries of having to send their

child to this school. Not finished yet!!!! Then I put a call into a great lady

who worked with my younger daughter when she was with Parents As Teachers and

now worked for that school district. I asked her about it and she clearly said

" you DO NOT want your babies in that school! " . Needless to say school started

this week and my 7 year old is staying put RIGHT WHERE SHE WAS in the same

school rather than the substandard hell hole they suggested.

Just remember one thing. YOU AS A PARENT out rank these so-called experts and do

not EVER let them bully you or tell you when and where you can be present for

what when your child is involved. If you want to make a surprise, unannounced

visit during the day to the school that is your right and I suggest you do it

from time to time.

Do not panic, get mad! If you own your home look at the way your property taxes

are divided up. 50-75% go to the school district. WE PAY THEIR SALARIES!! You

have your rights. Best to avail yourself of them early in the game and not allow

them to tell you what's what or you will set a trend.

Go get em Steph!!!! The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Bill

At 12:46 PM 8/21/2008, you wrote:

>YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for

. Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring

her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do

this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they

would be happy to have a teacher who " consults " with therapists COME TO MY HOME

and " Teach " . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies.

After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on

letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this

fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am

concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause

her to have a set back.

>

>ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now "

to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied " or cornered into accepting

something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly

following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to

see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that

is bologna.

>

>Any help, advice etc etc.

>

>steph

>

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Good advice, Bill! You are right on target!

ette

mom to Faith (11)DS

-------------- Original message from Stage One : --------------

Hi Steph!!!First rule to remember.........YOU hold the highest card when it comes to your child's education including evaluations, decisions and the day someone tells me I am told I cannot observe ANY testing on either of my girls and that order is executed you better check with Hell because it will have frozen over!!!! LOL!!!!Last year, at the end of the school year we had a meeting for my 7 year old where all the "experts" and therapist and school principal were in attendance. They suggested we move our daughter to another school in the district where they said they were better equipped for my daughter's needs. I checked out the school and it was smaller, dirty and I was not impressed with the heavy handedness they treated the kids. A little girl with DS started to run up to me and one of the aids that was built like a prison matron practically knocked this little girl down. I made it clear it was fine and then the little girl took me by the hand to show me what she was coloring and hugged me. Needless to say there was NO WAY IN HELL my little girl was going there.Then I went home and got on the net. If you type the right questions in Google you will eventually find what you are looking for. What I was looking for was a site that rated schools in my state/district. Low and behold this school is the LOWEST RATED SCHOOL in the district! Some parents went so far as to buy houses a street or two over to avoid being in the boundaries of having to send their child to this school. Not finished yet!!!! Then I put a call into a great lady who worked with my younger daughter when she was with Parents As Teachers and now worked for that school district. I asked her about it and she clearly said "you DO NOT want your babies in that school!". Needless to say school started this week and my 7 year old is staying put RIGHT WHERE SHE WAS in the same school rather than the substandard hell hole they suggested.Just remember one thing. YOU AS A PARENT out rank these so-called experts and do not EVER let them bully you or tell you when and where you can be present for what when your child is involved. If you want to make a surprise, unannounced visit during the day to the school that is your right and I suggest you do it from time to time.Do not panic, get mad! If you own your home look at the way your property taxes are divided up. 50-75% go to the school district. WE PAY THEIR SALARIES!! You have your rights. Best to avail yourself of them early in the game and not allow them to tell you what's what or you will set a trend.Go get em Steph!!!! The squeaky wheel gets the grease.BillAt 12:46 PM 8/21/2008, you wrote:>YEah.. SO they finally decided they wanted to test/evaluate and do an IEP for . Her 3 rd birthday is Sept 2nd. I want to homeschool her and bring her into the school for therapy. I was told by my Service Coord that they do this. Now I am being told by the school district that is impossible. BUT they would be happy to have a teacher who " consults" with therapists COME TO MY HOME and " Teach" . HUH? I thought the purpose of preschool was Therapies. After all I did not send my other kids to preschool. Sam is already working on letter recognition, sign language, and will be doing other reading work this fall. She is in the process of potty training with great poop success. I am concerned that when she signs potty they will not take her, and it will cause her to have a set back. > >ly, with the PUSH on time right now - they waited on purpose till " now" to do her testing - I am feeling rather " bullied" or cornered into accepting something I do not want for my child. They have scheduled her IEP directly following her Arean Assessment.. which I am told I can not OBSERVE. They want to see how she does independantly. Observe does not mean Interfere. I think that is bologna.> >Any help, advice etc etc.> >steph> >No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM