Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Hi Dee, I think because I kept equivocating under FOG pressure, I'd get hoovered into the anti-woman submission garbage that the shepherding and disciplship movement poisoned me with. I've only rationalized my rights, but I didn't feel entitled. As you well know, it's hard to not just punch up the automatic rules when your in the thick of it. Thanks.\\ Eventually I'll start believing the truth if I keep reading your encouragement. (I was on the NonBP Christian site, but I felt like things were very sugar coated. Perhaps because of all of the distortion and misrepresentation of the truly good stuff, I felt like it hindered more than it helped. Thanks for putting up with all this stuff....) K -- In ModOasis , " gmat60 " <gmat60@y...> wrote: > > Just an opinion. I believe in honoring one's parents. When that > parent is a BP, God, who is just, doesn't expect a child (of any age) > to be a doormat or a punching bag, or a reservoir for toxin. He loves > each of us equally and wants happiness for each. But he can't serve > it up on a platter and I figure he must have known I was strong enough > to survive BPD and even heal and have joy. He doesn't want me stuck > in the quagmire of BPD because that doesn't affect only me, but my > spouse, my children and my grandchildren. We have the opportunity and > right to stop BPD in it's tracks and not send it on to another > generation. My religious leader once said I had built a good immune > system against my nada, and to keep it in place. I know he believes > in " honoring thy parents " . This doesn't mean of course that we have > permission to be abusive to our parent, but we don't have to feel > guilty for wanting to be healthy, what ever that takes. > Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I had BP parents and knew something was wrong from a young age. I felt tremendous guilt having to defy my parents to do the things that my head told me were right. I felt this guilt because my parents played the " we wouldn't tell you to not do what is best " parents card. My parents tried to get me not to take final exams or save money because they knew that those things gave me power to leave and they feared abandonment. They also told me that someday I would see that they were right. This day has never come. They were selfish people who often put their own needs above their two daughters. I had to only honor them until they told me to do self-destructive things. It was very very hard to make these decisions. Take care. Otwoma gmat60 wrote: Just an opinion. I believe in honoring one's parents. When that parent is a BP, God, who is just, doesn't expect a child (of any age) to be a doormat or a punching bag, or a reservoir for toxin. He loves each of us equally and wants happiness for each. But he can't serve it up on a platter and I figure he must have known I was strong enough to survive BPD and even heal and have joy. He doesn't want me stuck in the quagmire of BPD because that doesn't affect only me, but my spouse, my children and my grandchildren. We have the opportunity and right to stop BPD in it's tracks and not send it on to another generation. My religious leader once said I had built a good immune system against my nada, and to keep it in place. I know he believes in " honoring thy parents " . This doesn't mean of course that we have permission to be abusive to our parent, but we don't have to feel guilty for wanting to be healthy, what ever that takes. Dee Send questions and/or concerns to ModOasis-owner " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs, can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL () and for the table of contents, go to: http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hi, So how, how do you seperate? If they're living rent free in your head then you are green! I want to stop being green. It ain't easy being green. And to honor them you must seperate thier illness from who they are but everytime you see them, they are thier illness. And why, why don't I feel entitled? Why does my brother feel so entitled and I don't feel entitled? Does this come from constantly trying to take care of their needs? Does this come from believing that their feelings are more important than my own? Does this come from thier inability to validate my feelings? Is there supposed to be some middle ground somewhere? cntbreathe > > > > Just an opinion. I believe in honoring one's parents. When that > > parent is a BP, God, who is just, doesn't expect a child (of any > age) > > to be a doormat or a punching bag, or a reservoir for toxin. He > loves > > each of us equally and wants happiness for each. But he can't > serve > > it up on a platter and I figure he must have known I was strong > enough > > to survive BPD and even heal and have joy. He doesn't want me > stuck > > in the quagmire of BPD because that doesn't affect only me, but my > > spouse, my children and my grandchildren. We have the opportunity > and > > right to stop BPD in it's tracks and not send it on to another > > generation. My religious leader once said I had built a good > immune > > system against my nada, and to keep it in place. I know he > believes > > in " honoring thy parents " . This doesn't mean of course that we > have > > permission to be abusive to our parent, but we don't have to feel > > guilty for wanting to be healthy, what ever that takes. > > Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 > And why, why > don't I feel entitled? Why does my brother feel so entitled and I > don't feel entitled? Never underestimate the power of the lessons that a sexist society teaches women and girls all too well. (Even when the sexism is unconscious/unintentional, the effects are very real.) ~journeywork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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