RE: June 4th, today is the day.

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I don't understand who you want to lead us then, if McCarthy is unacceptable to you.  While your beliefs and personalities may differ, who is naming anyone the moral police?  Autism can affect *anyone* including a foul mouthed, playboy bunny actress.  She is passionate.  She is caring.  She is brave.  She is honestly trying to have everyone in the biomedical world heard.  She is trying to help *us* change medicine for our children.  She has brought more attention to our concerns and it's her celebrity that brought it.  What is immoral about that?  We've been trying to get this message out for years but without fame and celebrity, we have a hard time being heard and taken seriously.  We reach a much smaller audience.  She isn't trying to hide anything.  She isn't making excuses for what she's done.  These are choices she's made and we all have our choices, good and bad.  To hold anyone to a higher standard, celebrity or not, is unrealistic.  We are human.  Not only do we not all agree that posing for playboy and cussing up a storm is bad, we don't all agree that it's good.  But these are our choices to make and we make our decisions based on where we are in our lives.  She was young and crazy.  Her choices were made in the eye of the public.  I've made some crazy choices, too but I'm thankful they aren't aired in the public for people to judge them and try to decide if I somehow fit their "moral" code.  My definition of morality is obviously much different from yours.  That's what happens when you try to quantify the unquantifiable.From another foul mouthed mom,Cherylhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gREB8EoAv8 Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else you watch about 's career.  Makes one ask the old question again and again.  "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?"  Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than not.

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I can see what some of the problem may be, her lang is pretty unacceptable in her books, and isn't child freindly (you wouldn't want your child cussing like a sailor) and not every parents wants to be associated as doing the same stuff as someone who posed for play boy. I'm a pastors wife and while I am glad autism has gotten a huge place in the media from her comeing out and forward, I cringe when people go ohhh you are on the same band wagon as that play boy girl aren't you,.....

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I don't understand who you want to lead us then, if McCarthy is unacceptable to you. While your beliefs and personalities may differ, who is naming anyone the moral police? Autism can affect *anyone* including a foul mouthed, playboy bunny actress. She is passionate. She is caring. She is brave. She is honestly trying to have everyone in the biomedical world heard. She is trying to help *us* change medicine for our children. She has brought more attention to our concerns and it's her celebrity that brought it. What is immoral about that? We've been trying to get this message out for years but without fame and celebrity, we have a hard time being heard and taken seriously. We reach a much smaller audience. She isn't trying to hide anything. She isn't making excuses for what she's done. These are choices she's made and we all have our choices, good and bad. To hold anyone to a higher standard, celebrity or not, is unrealistic. We are human. Not only do we not all agree that posing for playboy and cussing up a storm is bad, we don't all agree that it's good. But these are our choices to make and we make our decisions based on where we are in our lives. She was young and crazy. Her choices were made in the eye of the public. I've made some crazy choices, too but I'm thankful they aren't aired in the public for people to judge them and try to decide if I somehow fit their "moral" code. My definition of morality is obviously much different from yours. That's what happens when you try to quantify the unquantifiable.

From another foul mouthed mom,

Cheryl

Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else you watch about 's career. Makes one ask the old question again and again. "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?" Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than not.

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the vaccination companies and medical community believe that vaccinations have also outweighed the negitives with the possitives as well (we all disagree because we are on the negitive side of it), but IT doesn't justify it! they wanna green vaccinations, then lets green (clean up) the presentation we also give while trying to present our message. there is nothing wrong with that, the message doesn't have to change, there is hope, and we don't need junk in our kids, just the mode in which it's presented I think needs to be tweeked. just as a priest with fowl statments delutes there message of religion, the pressentation of what we are putting forward to better the lives of our kids and present as hope for families, looks more wacked and less professional and valid, if we are all manic and cussing on a stage shouting out unnessary lang. here we are all trying to instill USABLE lang in our kids, lets equipt them with that. I pray that it was a clean campain and march all the way around, especially since many were thinking of bringing there kids to the event and march to also hold banners and wave posters. it's a family issue, that effects whole families and our presentation should be family friendly, we are trying to turn people on to wholeness and health, and restoring the body. not turn them off before we GET to the message because of our presentation manner.

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Ditto here.. Anyways, no one is perfect. The good she does outweighs and negativity in my opinion. I see her as a mother who has gone out on a limb in more ways the one for all our children. I don't want to get religious here, but I've heard what many may consider fowl statements from priests and the like.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=-gREB8EoAv8

Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else you watch about 's career. Makes one ask the old question again and again. "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?" Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than not.

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heres a great home video of the rally

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=R1f-R1GfuOc

here it is on cnn you have to scroll down on top stories to see it

http://www.cnn.com/video/?iref=videoglobal

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Actually it wasn't 'til my kid got %$#@ by the gov that I started spewing fowl language from my mouth.( Sorry I couldn't resist. )

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then double sorry to hear that poisen has poisened you mouth as well

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Actually it wasn't 'til my kid got %$#@ by the gov that I started spewing fowl language from my mouth.( Sorry I couldn't resist. )

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=-gREB8EoAv8

Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else you watch about 's career. Makes one ask the old question again and again. "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?" Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than not.

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It was amazing!!! Wish everyone could have experienced the feeling we had as we stood together holding pictures of our children. I'll never forget it. Dana Read wrote: I just came from the rally and I am extremely proud to be on the same bandwagon. It was an energizing and inspiring event that I will never forget. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of HolmesSent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:33 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: June 4th, today is the day. oh boy. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Christel King <christel76together (DOT) net> wrote: I can see what some of the problem may be, her lang is pretty unacceptable in her books, and isn't child freindly (you wouldn't want your child cussing like a sailor) and not every parents

wants to be associated as doing the same stuff as someone who posed for play boy. I'm a pastors wife and while I am glad autism has gotten a huge place in the media from her comeing out and forward, I cringe when people go ohhh you are on the same band wagon as that play boy girl aren't you,..... Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes Re: June 4th, today is the day. I don't understand who you want to lead us then, if McCarthy is unacceptable to you. While your beliefs and personalities may differ, who is naming anyone the moral police? Autism can affect *anyone* including a foul mouthed, playboy bunny actress. She is passionate. She is caring. She is brave. She is honestly trying to have everyone in the biomedical world heard. She is trying to help *us* change medicine for

our children. She has brought more attention to our concerns and it's her celebrity that brought it. What is immoral about that? We've been trying to get this message out for years but without fame and celebrity, we have a hard time being heard and taken seriously. We reach a much smaller audience. She isn't trying to hide anything. She isn't making excuses for what she's done. These are choices she's made and we all have our choices, good and bad. To hold anyone to a higher standard, celebrity or not, is unrealistic. We are human. Not only do we not all agree that posing for playboy and cussing up a storm is bad, we don't all agree that it's good. But these are our choices to make and we make our decisions based on where we are in our lives. She was young and crazy. Her choices were made in the eye of the public. I've made some crazy choices, too but I'm thankful they aren't aired in the

public for people to judge them and try to decide if I somehow fit their "moral" code. My definition of morality is obviously much different from yours. That's what happens when you try to quantify the unquantifiable. From another foul mouthed mom, Cheryl

Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else

you watch about 's career. Makes one ask the old question again and again. "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?" Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than not. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release Date: 6/4/2008 7:10 AM -- Warmest Regards, B. Holmes

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This is from our local news in VA. Look for Madison when the mom's hold up pictures of our kids....that's my reason for fighting. http://www.wvec.com/video/topvideo-index.html?nvid=251683 & shu=1 angie carter wrote: It was amazing!!! Wish everyone could have experienced the feeling we had as we stood together holding pictures of our children. I'll never forget it. Dana Read <gdreadcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: I just came from the rally and I am extremely proud to be on the same bandwagon. It was an energizing and inspiring event that I will never forget. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of HolmesSent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:33 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: June 4th, today is the day. oh boy. On

Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Christel King <christel76together (DOT) net> wrote: I can see what some of the problem may be, her lang is pretty unacceptable in her books, and isn't child freindly (you wouldn't want your child cussing like a sailor) and not every parents wants to be associated as doing the same stuff as someone who posed for play boy. I'm a pastors wife and while I am glad autism has gotten a huge place in the media from her comeing out and forward, I cringe when people go ohhh you are on the same band wagon as that play boy girl aren't you,..... Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes Re: June 4th, today is the

day. I don't understand who you want to lead us then, if McCarthy is unacceptable to you. While your beliefs and personalities may differ, who is naming anyone the moral police? Autism can affect *anyone* including a foul mouthed, playboy bunny actress. She is passionate. She is caring. She is brave. She is honestly trying to have everyone in the biomedical world heard. She is trying to help *us* change medicine for our children. She has brought more attention to our concerns and it's her celebrity that brought it. What is immoral about that? We've been trying to get this message out for years but without fame and celebrity, we have a hard time being heard and taken seriously. We reach a much smaller audience. She isn't trying to hide anything. She isn't making excuses for what she's done. These are choices she's made and we all have our choices,

good and bad. To hold anyone to a higher standard, celebrity or not, is unrealistic. We are human. Not only do we not all agree that posing for playboy and cussing up a storm is bad, we don't all agree that it's good. But these are our choices to make and we make our decisions based on where we are in our lives. She was young and crazy. Her choices were made in the eye of the public. I've made some crazy choices, too but I'm thankful they aren't aired in the public for people to judge them and try to decide if I somehow fit their "moral" code. My definition of morality is obviously much different from yours. That's what happens when you try to quantify the unquantifiable. From another foul mouthed mom, Cheryl

Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else you watch about 's career. Makes one ask the old question again and again. "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?" Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than not. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release Date: 6/4/2008 7:10 AM -- Warmest Regards, B. Holmes

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I watched the clip on CNN and sobbed like a baby when I saw all of the parents holding pics of their children. Any clue how many showed up for the rally? Tinaangie carter wrote: It was amazing!!! Wish everyone could have experienced the feeling we had as we stood together holding pictures of our children. I'll never forget it. Dana Read <gdreadcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: I just came from the rally and I am extremely proud to be on the same bandwagon. It was an energizing and inspiring event that I will never forget. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of HolmesSent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:33 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: June 4th, today is the day. oh boy. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Christel King <christel76together (DOT) net> wrote: I can see what some of the problem may be, her lang is pretty unacceptable in her books, and isn't child freindly (you wouldn't want your child cussing like a sailor) and not every parents wants to be associated as doing the same stuff as someone who posed for play boy. I'm a pastors wife and while I am glad autism has gotten a huge place in the media from her comeing out and forward, I cringe when people go ohhh you are on the same band wagon as that play boy girl aren't you,..... Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes Re: June 4th, today is the day. I don't

understand who you want to lead us then, if McCarthy is unacceptable to you. While your beliefs and personalities may differ, who is naming anyone the moral police? Autism can affect *anyone* including a foul mouthed, playboy bunny actress. She is passionate. She is caring. She is brave. She is honestly trying to have everyone in the biomedical world heard. She is trying to help *us* change medicine for our children. She has brought more attention to our concerns and it's her celebrity that brought it. What is immoral about that? We've been trying to get this message out for years but without fame and celebrity, we have a hard time being heard and taken seriously. We reach a much smaller audience. She isn't trying to hide anything. She isn't making excuses for what she's done. These are choices she's made and we all have our choices, good and bad. To hold anyone to a higher

standard, celebrity or not, is unrealistic. We are human. Not only do we not all agree that posing for playboy and cussing up a storm is bad, we don't all agree that it's good. But these are our choices to make and we make our decisions based on where we are in our lives. She was young and crazy. Her choices were made in the eye of the public. I've made some crazy choices, too but I'm thankful they aren't aired in the public for people to judge them and try to decide if I somehow fit their "moral" code. My definition of morality is obviously much different from yours. That's what happens when you try to quantify the unquantifiable. From another foul mouthed mom, Cheryl

Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else you watch about 's career. Makes one ask the old question again and again. "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?" Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than not. No virus

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seemed like a millon. I'm not sure of the final count I think it was around 10,000. I do know that there was at least one person from all 50 states there, as well as someone from Canada.Tina Gartrell wrote: I watched the clip on CNN and sobbed like a baby when I saw all of the parents holding pics of their children. Any clue how many showed up for the rally? Tinaangie carter <angcarter97> wrote: It was amazing!!! Wish everyone could have experienced the feeling we had as we stood together holding pictures of our children. I'll never forget it. Dana Read <gdreadcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: I just came from the rally and I am extremely proud to be on the same bandwagon. It was an energizing and inspiring event that I will never forget. -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of HolmesSent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:33 PMTo:

mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: June 4th, today is the day. oh boy. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Christel King <christel76together (DOT) net> wrote: I can see what some of the problem may be, her lang is pretty unacceptable in her books, and isn't child freindly (you wouldn't want your child cussing like a sailor) and not every parents wants to be associated as doing the same stuff as someone who posed for play boy. I'm a pastors wife and while I am glad autism has gotten a huge place in the media from her comeing out and forward, I cringe when people go ohhh you are on the

same band wagon as that play boy girl aren't you,..... Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes Re: June 4th, today is the day. I don't understand who you want to lead us then, if McCarthy is unacceptable to you. While your beliefs and personalities may differ, who is naming anyone the moral police? Autism can affect *anyone* including a foul mouthed, playboy bunny actress. She is passionate. She is caring. She is brave. She is honestly trying to have everyone in the biomedical world heard. She is trying to help *us* change medicine for our children. She has brought more attention to our concerns and it's her celebrity that brought it. What is immoral about that? We've been trying to get this message out for years but without fame and celebrity, we have a hard

time being heard and taken seriously. We reach a much smaller audience. She isn't trying to hide anything. She isn't making excuses for what she's done. These are choices she's made and we all have our choices, good and bad. To hold anyone to a higher standard, celebrity or not, is unrealistic. We are human. Not only do we not all agree that posing for playboy and cussing up a storm is bad, we don't all agree that it's good. But these are our choices to make and we make our decisions based on where we are in our lives. She was young and crazy. Her choices were made in the eye of the public. I've made some crazy choices, too but I'm thankful they aren't aired in the public for people to judge them and try to decide if I somehow fit their "moral" code. My definition of morality is obviously much different from yours. That's what happens when you try to quantify the unquantifiable.

From another foul mouthed mom, Cheryl

Check out this video, you may want to be careful, with what else you watch about 's career. Makes one ask the old question again and again. "Where is the moral leadership on this issue?" Money talks, and no doubt "leadership" in this nation is driven by the dollar more times than

not. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release Date: 6/4/2008 7:10 AM -- Warmest Regards, B. Holmes