Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Why are we hawking this guys product? Most of it is borrowed material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no support other than because he says so! Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel. - -- In bullworkerclub , richard pancoast wrote: > > BW-Extreme Bullworker Training Manual Chart & Bruce Lee > > $19.95 > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/BW-Extreme-Bullworker-Training-Manual-Chart- Bruce- Lee_W0QQitemZ7235902756QQcategoryZ28067QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 May I suggest another strategy? Considering that this is totally un-original pirated and plagerized material. Those of us who have actually purchased these CD manuals. Why not upload the BW Extreme CD files to the files section of this EG or SHARE them and e-mail them around to different members of the BW EG for cross posting and SHARING. Would anyone who has already purchased the BW Extreme CD, please contact directly via pvt email? That's what this EG is all about. SHARING & HELPING each other. SHARING pirated plagerized material FOR FREE is ok. SELLING plagerized pirated material is pretty cheezy. I noticed the guy even plagerized my own home-made albeit " plagerized " BW training manual which I totally donated to everybody on the EG. All the best, Tony EG Owner Why are we hawking this guys product? Most of it is borrowed > material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no > support other than because he says so! > > Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Sounds good to me. Note that I post what I think people here may be interested in,because we do share information,ideas,results,etc.,with each other here.I know I appreciate receiving information,etc.,from the members here that I may not find or may overlook myself. Thanks,Tony. Richtgparker_nyc wrote: May I suggest another strategy? Considering that this is totally un-original pirated and plagerized material. Those of us who have actually purchased these CD manuals. Why not upload the BW Extreme CD files to the files section of this EG or SHARE them and e-mail them around to different members of the BW EG for cross posting and SHARING. Would anyone who has already purchased the BW Extreme CD, please contact directly via pvt email?That's what this EG is all about. SHARING & HELPING each other.SHARING pirated plagerized material FOR FREE is ok. SELLING plagerized pirated material is pretty cheezy. I noticed the guy even plagerized my own home-made albeit "plagerized" BW training manual which I totally donated to everybody on the EG.All the best,Tony EG Owner Why are we hawking this guys product? Most of it is borrowed > material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no > support other than because he says so!> > Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Absolutely. And,when I saw that the material could be bought for that price,without the Bully,since most of us already have one,I thought I'd post it.That's a lot of material for the price. Rich Grant wrote: I fully apprieciate the fact that someone has bothered to put all the information together and put it into a managable product, for people to use. I am looking into purchasing these, for the informational items alone would be very interesting to read. Re: Re: BW-Extreme Bullworker Training Manual Chart & Bruce Lee $19.95 I've noticed some people here appreciate knowing about these products.rrbelloff wrote: Why are we hawking this guys product? Most of it is borrowed material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no support other than because he says so!Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel.>> BW-Extreme Bullworker Training Manual Chart & Bruce Lee > > $19.95> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/BW-Extreme-Bullworker-Training-Manual-Chart-Bruce-Lee_W0QQitemZ7235902756QQcategoryZ28067QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> > > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/319 - Release Date: 19/04/2006 How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 IMHO a little buying, selling, and swapping of used BWs, manuals, videos etc... and general horse trading as long as nobody on this EG feels like they're being screwed or gouged is ok. The commercial guys and vendors are allowed to quietly and discreetly peddle here as long as they treat us with respect and do their peddling in good taste and keep a low profile. They have to understand they are merely guests in our private club/EG, they haven't paid for the right to senselessly and obnoxiously peddle their wares here willy nilly. I have no problem kicking and banning ANY obnoxious peddler who either disrespects this club/EG or abuses or rips off any member of this club/EG. So far as I can remember, except for one or two noted exceptions most of the vendors on this EG have behaved like complete gentlemen even offering the members of this EG support, advice, help, freebies, promos, and intros. I draw the line at gross and obnoxious commercialism, exploitation, MLM, SPAM, etc... Basically as long as we all use basic common sense and follow a modicum good taste and are basically willing to help out the other guy, then this EG will continue to flourish and grow. All the best gang! This EG rules! Tony EG Owner > May I suggest another strategy? > > Considering that this is totally un-original pirated and plagerized > material. <SNIP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Right. As stated earlier,many of us appreciate somone taking the time to put a lot of Bullworker Training material,diet advise,etc.,together.We would love to be able to find all he offers on our own,but that would be next to impossible,as it is very difficult to locate all those manuals,etc.,today.Then,if we did find them,how much would we pay?For someone to find all this material,put it all together,then offer it at a fair price,well,that's how business is done. A friend of mine bought the material from the site I posted here a few weeks ago,and he was more than happy with it.He felt he received more information than he paid for. Richtgparker_nyc wrote: IMHO a little buying, selling, and swapping of used BWs, manuals, videos etc... and general horse trading as long as nobody on this EG feels like they're being screwed or gouged is ok.The commercial guys and vendors are allowed to quietly and discreetly peddle here as long as they treat us with respect and do their peddling in good taste and keep a low profile. They have to understand they are merely guests in our private club/EG, they haven't paid for the right to senselessly and obnoxiously peddle their wares here willy nilly.I have no problem kicking and banning ANY obnoxious peddler who either disrespects this club/EG or abuses or rips off any member of this club/EG.So far as I can remember, except for one or two noted exceptions most of the vendors on this EG have behaved like complete gentlemen even offering the members of this EG support, advice, help, freebies, promos, and intros.I draw the line at gross and obnoxious commercialism, exploitation, MLM, SPAM, etc...Basically as long as we all use basic common sense and follow a modicum good taste and are basically willing to help out the other guy, then this EG will continue to flourish and grow.All the best gang!This EG rules!TonyEG Owner> May I suggest another strategy? > > Considering that this is totally un-original pirated and plagerized > material. <SNIP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Look the way I see it..The guy has 100% feedback on EBay! He is doing something right! So some one found value in what he is selling. I am not the seller of the product or products, as I see someone has indicated. I don't see what all the fuss is about. In the long run if you don't like his stuff DON'T BUY IT. All we are doing here is bashing someone for selling something of value to someone. Yes ,some of it is free and available on line if you search for it i.e... the manual and such, but here in the states you can go to the large grocery store and pay $2.95 for milk or you can go to the convenience store and pay $1.00 more. Everyone knows this, but, it's their choice!! I personally love the "fat loss" manual and I have been losing fat, as I had posted earlier. I am getting stronger utilizing longer holds. Was it the best buy ever..no! Am I sorry I spent $20 bucks , NO.!! But then that's what so great about my country and I'm sure yours as well...we are all entitled to our OPINION. I think that's enough said on that subject! After all what is this forum all about? Helping others and sharing information?? Or bashing? Looks like some people just have an axe to grind and are using this as a public forum. I'm sure others will post that what we do here is share "good" information. I guess information like beauty is in the "eye of the beholder" ly, I have never seen so many post's...I take that to be a positive! From: bullworkerclub [mailto:bullworkerclub ]On Behalf Of richard pancoastSent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:40 PMTo: bullworkerclub Subject: Re: Re: BW-Extreme Bullworker Training Manual Chart & Bruce Lee $19.95 Sounds good to me. Note that I post what I think people here may be interested in,because we do share information,ideas,results,etc.,with each other here.I know I appreciate receiving information,etc.,from the members here that I may not find or may overlook myself. Thanks,Tony. Richtgparker_nyc wrote: May I suggest another strategy? Considering that this is totally un-original pirated and plagerized material. Those of us who have actually purchased these CD manuals. Why not upload the BW Extreme CD files to the files section of this EG or SHARE them and e-mail them around to different members of the BW EG for cross posting and SHARING. Would anyone who has already purchased the BW Extreme CD, please contact directly via pvt email?That's what this EG is all about. SHARING & HELPING each other.SHARING pirated plagerized material FOR FREE is ok. SELLING plagerized pirated material is pretty cheezy. I noticed the guy even plagerized my own home-made albeit "plagerized" BW training manual which I totally donated to everybody on the EG.All the best,Tony EG Owner Why are we hawking this guys product? Most of it is borrowed > material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no > support other than because he says so!> > Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 You all are missing one very important fact... he is copying copyrighted material and selling it for his gain. Last time I checked, that was against the law. The product name is legit and could be a welcome improvement, but he seems to have confused 400lbs of strength with 400 / 600 lbs of resistance. The fact that he is marketing under the India manufacturer is going to cause him trouble because he is using the BW name to market a product that is not the BW. Even Macho Power was not so flagrant. While the group is for the promotion of BW and it is always looking for information and improvement to this isometric wonder, the club has established very high standards that should not be compromised. Isn't that why our library is free? Would we want the UK to copy all of this clubs postings on to their forum in the name of sharing information? and charge people to read it???? Just choices everyone gets to make. *** BERT HERNANDEZ wrote: Look the way I see it..The guy has 100% feedback on EBay! He is doing something right! So some one found value in what he is selling. I am not the seller of the product or products, as I see someone has indicated. I don't see what all the fuss is about. In the long run if you don't like his stuff DON'T BUY IT. All we are doing here is bashing someone for selling something of value to someone. Yes ,some of it is free and available on line if you search for it i.e... the manual and such, but here in the states you can go to the large grocery store and pay $2.95 for milk or you can go to the convenience store and pay $1.00 more. Everyone knows this, but, it's their choice!! I personally love the "fat loss" manual and I have been losing fat, as I had posted earlier. I am getting stronger utilizing longer holds. Was it the best buy ever..no! Am I sorry I spent $20 bucks , NO.!! But then that's what so great about my country and I'm sure yours as well...we are all entitled to our OPINION. I think that's enough said on that subject! After all what is this forum all about? Helping others and sharing information?? Or bashing? Looks like some people just have an axe to grind and are using this as a public forum. I'm sure others will post that what we do here is share "good" information. I guess information like beauty is in the "eye of the beholder" ly, I have never seen so many post's...I take that to be a positive! From: bullworkerclub [mailto:bullworkerclub ]On Behalf Of richard pancoastSent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:40 PMTo: bullworkerclub Subject: Re: Re: BW-Extreme Bullworker Training Manual Chart & Bruce Lee $19.95 Sounds good to me. Note that I post what I think people here may be interested in,because we do share information,ideas,results,etc.,with each other here.I know I appreciate receiving information,etc.,from the members here that I may not find or may overlook myself. Thanks,Tony. Richtgparker_nyc wrote: May I suggest another strategy? Considering that this is totally un-original pirated and plagerized material. Those of us who have actually purchased these CD manuals. Why not upload the BW Extreme CD files to the files section of this EG or SHARE them and e-mail them around to different members of the BW EG for cross posting and SHARING. Would anyone who has already purchased the BW Extreme CD, please contact directly via pvt email?That's what this EG is all about. SHARING & HELPING each other.SHARING pirated plagerized material FOR FREE is ok. SELLING plagerized pirated material is pretty cheezy. I noticed the guy even plagerized my own home-made albeit "plagerized" BW training manual which I totally donated to everybody on the EG.All the best,Tony EG Owner Why are we hawking this guys product? Most of it is borrowed > material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no > support other than because he says so!> > Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 I have seen on many sites and in numerous forums where someone has "discovered" a "secret" exercise,and is selling it as his own.If you do research,you will find that the exercise is not recently discovered,it can be found in numerous other books and sources.One popular bodybuilding forum guru puts out new books all the time with the same old exercises in them,only he gives them different names.His new isometric book is supposedly just a rehash of Dynaflex.Jay Photo wrote: You all are missing one very important fact... he is copying copyrighted material and selling it for his gain. Last time I checked, that was against the law. The product name is legit and could be a welcome improvement, but he seems to have confused 400lbs of strength with 400 / 600 lbs of resistance. The fact that he is marketing under the India manufacturer is going to cause him trouble because he is using the BW name to market a product that is not the BW. Even Macho Power was not so flagrant. While the group is for the promotion of BW and it is always looking for information and improvement to this isometric wonder, the club has established very high standards that should not be compromised. Isn't that why our library is free? Would we want the UK to copy all of this clubs postings on to their forum in the name of sharing information? and charge people to read it???? Just choices everyone gets to make. *** BERT HERNANDEZ wrote: Look the way I see it..The guy has 100% feedback on EBay! He is doing something right! So some one found value in what he is selling. I am not the seller of the product or products, as I see someone has indicated. I don't see what all the fuss is about. In the long run if you don't like his stuff DON'T BUY IT. All we are doing here is bashing someone for selling something of value to someone. Yes ,some of it is free and available on line if you search for it i.e... the manual and such, but here in the states you can go to the large grocery store and pay $2.95 for milk or you can go to the convenience store and pay $1.00 more. Everyone knows this, but, it's their choice!! I personally love the "fat loss" manual and I have been losing fat, as I had posted earlier. I am getting stronger utilizing longer holds. Was it the best buy ever..no! Am I sorry I spent $20 bucks , NO.!! But then that's what so great about my country and I'm sure yours as well...we are all entitled to our OPINION. I think that's enough said on that subject! After all what is this forum all about? Helping others and sharing information?? Or bashing? Looks like some people just have an axe to grind and are using this as a public forum. I'm sure others will post that what we do here is share "good" information. I guess information like beauty is in the "eye of the beholder" ly, I have never seen so many post's...I take that to be a positive! From: bullworkerclub [mailto:bullworkerclub ]On Behalf Of richard pancoastSent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:40 PMTo: bullworkerclub Subject: Re: Re: BW-Extreme Bullworker Training Manual Chart & Bruce Lee $19.95 Sounds good to me. Note that I post what I think people here may be interested in,because we do share information,ideas,results,etc.,with each other here.I know I appreciate receiving information,etc.,from the members here that I may not find or may overlook myself. Thanks,Tony. Richtgparker_nyc wrote: May I suggest another strategy? Considering that this is totally un-original pirated and plagerized material. Those of us who have actually purchased these CD manuals. Why not upload the BW Extreme CD files to the files section of this EG or SHARE them and e-mail them around to different members of the BW EG for cross posting and SHARING. Would anyone who has already purchased the BW Extreme CD, please contact directly via pvt email?That's what this EG is all about. SHARING & HELPING each other.SHARING pirated plagerized material FOR FREE is ok. SELLING plagerized pirated material is pretty cheezy. I noticed the guy even plagerized my own home-made albeit "plagerized" BW training manual which I totally donated to everybody on the EG.All the best,Tony EG Owner Why are we hawking this guys product? Most of it is borrowed > material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no > support other than because he says so!> > Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Agreed! Why are we hawking this guys > product? Most of it is borrowed > > material from the public domain. Moreover, his premise has no > > support other than because he says so! > > > > Lets let him get his own clients on his own nickel. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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