Re: Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's

January 9, 2011

I did not feel well with a suppressed TSH, even if every other number is in line—“in-line” for me being at midpoint or slightly below for T3 and in the upper third for FT4. Since I’ve been working on other areas with OTC supplements (in particular, SAMe, which has a host of beneficial effects, particularly for the liver), I’ve been able to increase Cytomel from 5 ug to 10 ug (and the doctor wants me to go up a little more because my T3 is lower than he’d like), my TSH has gone back up to about 0.5, and I’m feeling pretty wonderful from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet. Even my periods have normalized again. I’m 52, and starting about two years ago, I thought menopause had hit—hard—even though the women in my family all enter menopause quite late. In fact, the cause of my sporadic periods and occasional hot flashes was just too much T3. I used to blame everything on my thyroid, and I’m coming to understand that, in my case, at least, although thyroid (specifically, Hashimoto’s) was the catalyst, supplemental hormone was not sufficient to fix the problem. I have changed my diet entirely (even though it was reasonably good before—no fast food, no junk, just not enough fruits and vegetables), I’ve lost (as of this morning) 30 pounds since last March (current weight 144, current BMI 22.7), I go to the gym regularly (except when I hurt myself in bizarre ways—like almost falling into the turtle tank and wonking my knee something fierce two weeks ago), and I have put together a supplement regimen that has increased my energy and motivation levels and has also halted a lifelong case of severe SAD in its tracks. We’re all different, so what worked for me may not work for anyone else, but I think that alternate areas are worth looking at when thyroid hormone doesn’t solve the problem. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of texasthyroidSent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:44 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's Many of us cannot get our frees to midpoint without suppressing the TSH.I cannot get out of bed with any measurable TSH at all.TSH is a pituitary hormone, not a thyroid hormone.Doctors have been brainwashed by BigPharm which does not want thyroid patients to be well. They also live in fear of their state boards.>> Why are so many doctors afraid of my suppressed TSH?> > I always hover around <0.006... but yet I struggle to get my Free T3 and Free T4 to even mid-point.. > > Might I have other issues going on that I haven't been tested for? or don't know about?> > **I do not recommend self medicating***> > I took a little extra of my meds last night.. and the plantar fasciitis that has been plaguing me since having (2 months now) is completely gone this morning.. absolutely no soreness in my feet at all! > > It was soo bad that I was almost afraid to carry him at night, when I got out of bed I could hardly walk!> > Is there any help out there for people like me?>

January 9, 2011

I am getting back on a strict diet (no sugar, no grains) as I have yeast overload from too many abx this year (6 sinus infections). Been on it one week and doing fine with it although I do miss my sweets I was wondering what supplements you find help with energy. I haven't found any that help with that particular problem.

After a severe illness September and October, I started to have severe fatigue even though I am over my illness. I am thinking my thyroid finally pooped out from all the stress of the illness and the holidays. I see my thyroid doc end of January. I am guessing that I need an increase to help my body recover from illness? Has anyone ever had this happen to them?

I did not feel well with a suppressed TSH, even if every other number is in line—“in-line” for me being at midpoint or slightly below for T3 and in the upper third for FT4. Since I’ve been working on other areas with OTC supplements (in particular, SAMe, which has a host of beneficial effects, particularly for the liver), I’ve been able to increase Cytomel from 5 ug to 10 ug (and the doctor wants me to go up a little more because my T3 is lower than he’d like), my TSH has gone back up to about 0.5, and I’m feeling pretty wonderful from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet. Even my periods have normalized again. I’m 52, and starting about two years ago, I thought menopause had hit—hard—even though the women in my family all enter menopause quite late. In fact, the cause of my sporadic periods and occasional hot flashes was just too much T3.

I used to blame everything on my thyroid, and I’m coming to understand that, in my case, at least, although thyroid (specifically, Hashimoto’s) was the catalyst, supplemental hormone was not sufficient to fix the problem. I have changed my diet entirely (even though it was reasonably good before—no fast food, no junk, just not enough fruits and vegetables), I’ve lost (as of this morning) 30 pounds since last March (current weight 144, current BMI 22.7), I go to the gym regularly (except when I hurt myself in bizarre ways—like almost falling into the turtle tank and wonking my knee something fierce two weeks ago), and I have put together a supplement regimen that has increased my energy and motivation levels and has also halted a lifelong case of severe SAD in its tracks.

We’re all different, so what worked for me may not work for anyone else, but I think that alternate areas are worth looking at when thyroid hormone doesn’t solve the problem.

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of texasthyroid

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:44 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's

Many of us cannot get our frees to midpoint without suppressing the TSH.

I cannot get out of bed with any measurable TSH at all.TSH is a pituitary hormone, not a thyroid hormone.

Doctors have been brainwashed by BigPharm which does not want thyroid patients to be well. They also live in fear of their state boards.

>> Why are so many doctors afraid of my suppressed TSH?> > I always hover around <0.006... but yet I struggle to get my Free T3 and Free T4 to even mid-point.. > > Might I have other issues going on that I haven't been tested for? or don't know about?

> > **I do not recommend self medicating***> > I took a little extra of my meds last night.. and the plantar fasciitis that has been plaguing me since having (2 months now) is completely gone this morning.. absolutely no soreness in my feet at all!

> > It was soo bad that I was almost afraid to carry him at night, when I got out of bed I could hardly walk!> > Is there any help out there for people like me?>

-- Cauleywww.shaneandlauracauley.blogspot.comHome Cell

January 10, 2011

When I read that you are on a diet with no grains I remembered that when I've done that I've SORELY missed pasta!!! Even with alternatives to wheat; corn/rice etc. they are still grains. I found something that is a REALLY good pasta alternative with minimal calories. They are called "bean threads". I buy them at the Asian market called WelFarms on Hwy 6 in Sugar Land area, but I'm sure most any Asian market will have them. Health food stores have them too, but they come in a TINY bag and cost a fortune.

At WelFarms, they come in a bag with a little pink net bag surrounding the celophane. They are dried MUNG beans, the same beans they call bean sprouts in many Chinese recipes and dried, they look exactly like Angel Hair pasta. You just pop a clump of them in boiling water for about a minute or 2, turn off the heat and let them sit for another few minutes, then drain well. They have no grain in them as they are a vegetable, and cooked, they are super tender, just like pasta. Even my kids didn't realize they were eating 'beans' and my older daughter LOVES them with Pesto. They cost about a dollar a bag and I buy 12 bags at a time.

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups From: llcauley@...Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:28:36 -0600Subject: Re: Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's

I am getting back on a strict diet (no sugar, no grains) as I have yeast overload from too many abx this year (6 sinus infections). Been on it one week and doing fine with it although I do miss my sweets I was wondering what supplements you find help with energy. I haven't found any that help with that particular problem. After a severe illness September and October, I started to have severe fatigue even though I am over my illness. I am thinking my thyroid finally pooped out from all the stress of the illness and the holidays. I see my thyroid doc end of January. I am guessing that I need an increase to help my body recover from illness? Has anyone ever had this happen to them?

I did not feel well with a suppressed TSH, even if every other number is in line—“in-line” for me being at midpoint or slightly below for T3 and in the upper third for FT4. Since I’ve been working on other areas with OTC supplements (in particular, SAMe, which has a host of beneficial effects, particularly for the liver), I’ve been able to increase Cytomel from 5 ug to 10 ug (and the doctor wants me to go up a little more because my T3 is lower than he’d like), my TSH has gone back up to about 0.5, and I’m feeling pretty wonderful from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet. Even my periods have normalized again. I’m 52, and starting about two years ago, I thought menopause had hit—hard—even though the women in my family all enter menopause quite late. In fact, the cause of my sporadic periods and occasional hot flashes was just too much T3.

I used to blame everything on my thyroid, and I’m coming to understand that, in my case, at least, although thyroid (specifically, Hashimoto’s) was the catalyst, supplemental hormone was not sufficient to fix the problem. I have changed my diet entirely (even though it was reasonably good before—no fast food, no junk, just not enough fruits and vegetables), I’ve lost (as of this morning) 30 pounds since last March (current weight 144, current BMI 22.7), I go to the gym regularly (except when I hurt myself in bizarre ways—like almost falling into the turtle tank and wonking my knee something fierce two weeks ago), and I have put together a supplement regimen that has increased my energy and motivation levels and has also halted a lifelong case of severe SAD in its tracks.

We’re all different, so what worked for me may not work for anyone else, but I think that alternate areas are worth looking at when thyroid hormone doesn’t solve the problem.

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of texasthyroidSent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:44 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's

Many of us cannot get our frees to midpoint without suppressing the TSH.

I cannot get out of bed with any measurable TSH at all.

TSH is a pituitary hormone, not a thyroid hormone.

Doctors have been brainwashed by BigPharm which does not want thyroid patients to be well. They also live in fear of their state boards.

>> Why are so many doctors afraid of my suppressed TSH?> > I always hover around <0.006... but yet I struggle to get my Free T3 and Free T4 to even mid-point.. > > Might I have other issues going on that I haven't been tested for? or don't know about?> > **I do not recommend self medicating***> > I took a little extra of my meds last night.. and the plantar fasciitis that has been plaguing me since having (2 months now) is completely gone this morning.. absolutely no soreness in my feet at all! > > It was soo bad that I was almost afraid to carry him at night, when I got out of bed I could hardly walk!> > Is there any help out there for people like me?>

-- Cauleywww.shaneandlauracauley.blogspot.comHome Cell

January 10, 2011

Yes, repeatedly. I get sick and it is

hard for me to get back to a good baseline. I think for me it’s all about

raising where the baseline is so I’m not in such a fragile condition.

Sometimes it feels like one step forward then two back.

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Cauley

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011

4:29 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re:

Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's

I am getting back on a strict diet (no sugar, no

grains) as I have yeast overload from too many abx this year (6 sinus

infections). Been on it one week and doing fine with it although I do

miss my sweets I was wondering what supplements you find help with

energy. I haven't found any that help with that particular problem.

After a severe illness September and October, I started to have severe fatigue

even though I am over my illness. I am thinking my thyroid finally pooped

out from all the stress of the illness and the holidays. I see my thyroid

doc end of January. I am guessing that I need an increase to help my body

recover from illness? Has anyone ever had this happen to them?

I did not feel well with a suppressed TSH, even if every other

number is in line—“in-line” for me being at midpoint or slightly below for T3

and in the upper third for FT4. Since I’ve been working on other areas with OTC

supplements (in particular, SAMe, which has a host of beneficial effects,

particularly for the liver), I’ve been able to increase Cytomel from 5 ug to 10

ug (and the doctor wants me to go up a little more because my T3 is lower than

he’d like), my TSH has gone back up to about 0.5, and I’m feeling pretty

wonderful from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet. Even my periods

have normalized again. I’m 52, and starting about two years ago, I thought

menopause had hit—hard—even though the women in my family all enter menopause

quite late. In fact, the cause of my sporadic periods and occasional hot

flashes was just too much T3.

I used to blame everything on my thyroid, and I’m coming to

understand that, in my case, at least, although thyroid (specifically,

Hashimoto’s) was the catalyst, supplemental hormone was not sufficient to fix

the problem. I have changed my diet entirely (even though it was reasonably

good before—no fast food, no junk, just not enough fruits and vegetables), I’ve

lost (as of this morning) 30 pounds since last March (current weight 144,

current BMI 22.7), I go to the gym regularly (except when I hurt myself in

bizarre ways—like almost falling into the turtle tank and wonking my knee

something fierce two weeks ago), and I have put together a supplement regimen

that has increased my energy and motivation levels and has also halted a

lifelong case of severe SAD in its tracks.

We’re all different, so what worked for me may not work for

anyone else, but I think that alternate areas are worth looking at when thyroid

hormone doesn’t solve the problem.

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ]

On Behalf Of texasthyroid

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011

10:44 AM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's

Many of us cannot get our

frees to midpoint without suppressing the TSH.

I cannot get out of bed with

any measurable TSH at all.

TSH is a pituitary hormone,

not a thyroid hormone.

Doctors have been brainwashed

by BigPharm which does not want thyroid patients to be well. They also live in

fear of their state boards.

>

> Why are so many doctors afraid of my suppressed TSH?

>

> I always hover around <0.006... but yet I struggle to get my Free T3

and Free T4 to even mid-point..

>

> Might I have other issues going on that I haven't been tested for? or

don't know about?

>

> **I do not recommend self medicating***

>

> I took a little extra of my meds last night.. and the plantar fasciitis

that has been plaguing me since having (2 months now) is completely

gone this morning.. absolutely no soreness in my feet at all!

>

> It was soo bad that I was almost afraid to carry him at night, when I got

out of bed I could hardly walk!

>

> Is there any help out there for people like me?

>

--

Cauley

www.shaneandlauracauley.blogspot.com

Home

Cell

January 10, 2011

Congratulations on the baby!

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of headhunter9561

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011

6:08 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's

Thank you everyone for the ideas..

I think what I was trying to say that in my case this time, it IS my thyroid..

If one extra thyroid pill would make symptoms go away...

I've been lucky, I've lost 30 of my 40 baby pounds..I did go into pregnancy

about 10 pounds heavy..

I don't have any of the anxiety that I had prior to pregnancy.. and I don't

have that crazy startle reflex - so I am praying that maybe pregnancy reset some

of my hormones.

Right now, we aren't even looking at other hormones as culprits..

Just waiting for my thyroid results.. and what the doc wants me to do about the

nodule.

January 10, 2011

Thanks. There are some health food stores near me so I will check this out. It is hard not eating grains but I have gone for 5 months before so I can do it again. UGH!

When I read that you are on a diet with no grains I remembered that when I've done that I've SORELY missed pasta!!! Even with alternatives to wheat; corn/rice etc. they are still grains. I found something that is a REALLY good pasta alternative with minimal calories. They are called " bean threads " . I buy them at the Asian market called WelFarms on Hwy 6 in Sugar Land area, but I'm sure most any Asian market will have them. Health food stores have them too, but they come in a TINY bag and cost a fortune.

At WelFarms, they come in a bag with a little pink net bag surrounding the celophane. They are dried MUNG beans, the same beans they call bean sprouts in many Chinese recipes and dried, they look exactly like Angel Hair pasta. You just pop a clump of them in boiling water for about a minute or 2, turn off the heat and let them sit for another few minutes, then drain well. They have no grain in them as they are a vegetable, and cooked, they are super tender, just like pasta. Even my kids didn't realize they were eating 'beans' and my older daughter LOVES them with Pesto. They cost about a dollar a bag and I buy 12 bags at a time.

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups From: llcauley@...Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:28:36 -0600

Subject: Re: Re: Suppressed TSH - Hashi's