Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Dairy items that have any milk products or milk bi products, or anything with casein as an ingredient in it. These are the things to avoid including chocolates and such many soups have creams and or milk bi-products too. Eggs would be not considered a dairy as they to not be to have casein in them or milk added unless you to but premade mixes to make scrambled eggs with . You can be to use rice milk or non dairy milks to make scrambled eggs and or mashed potatoes. Also be to watch butter as it too has casein in it. You can find some that do not be to have it in it. Just be to read the ingredients in the butters before to buy them. If not sure always read the ingredients on each package. This is the one I to be to try to be to stay faithful too. Dairy free is much easier than the gluten. I to also try to avoid using pre made mixes and boxed food items. I to be to try hard to cook all foods from the natural form or buy the frozen vegetables. Because these pre boxed things and such come with much additives to preserve them and this too is not a good choice. It isnot just an autistic choice to avoid them but a healthy choice to avoid them. I to be to eat much fresh veggies and fruit and meats. I to be to do my own stir fry from scratch and such things as this. because I to be to have control of what goes in. So as I to be to share easiest to be to go dairy free and then change oils inthe home but dont bet to forget as most important step in the diet change is to supplement the calcium and vitamin d as this is added to milk and it the only thing healthy about milk , sad but true, it is what they added to it that makes it healthy, but can be to get this source of vitamin and minerals from other sources. Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Sondra wrote: Also be to watch butter as it too has casein in it. You can find some that do not be to have it in it. Just be to read the ingredients in the butters before to buy them. If not sure always read the ingredients on each package. This is the one I to be to try to be to stay faithful too. Dairy free is much easier than the gluten Not sure about some kinds of butter being casein free, but ghee is. Ghee is Indian clarified butter (which you can make yourself from butter) and is an excellent source of many nutruents, check this link for details http://www.kurma.net/ingredients/i2.html Suprisingly it does not seem to come up in most books about casein free eating. I strongly reccomend you all check it out as even if you are not trying to go casein free, you should be eating ghee and not butter. As far as avoiding gluten goes, you're right it is tough, but not not really too hard if you avoid processed foods. Gluten is found in most mainstream grains, but there are many grains that don't have it. Ancient grains like amaranth, quinoa and millet don't have it and staches like rice and potatoes are gluten free too (as are rice and potato flour as well as arrowroot and tapioca starch). Soy is gluten free, but for other reasons is probably better to avoid - at least as a daily part of your diet. With a little trial and error, we have been able to make pancakes, scones, muffins, crackers and even bread without any gluten or casein (and most health food stores sell breads as well). Bread type products aside, the simplest way to go gluten and casein free is to cook without a recipe. Rice or potato, vegies and meat are all fine if prepared simply. We saw good results from getting on the diet, but not as remarkable as some of the stories you here - still we are sticking with it. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Hains Safflower Margarine and Fleishman's LIGHT are GFCF > > Also be to watch butter as it too has casein in it. You can > find some that do not be to have it in it. Just be to read the ingredients > in the butters before to buy them. If not sure always read the ingredients > on each package. This is the one I to be to try to be to stay faithful too. > Dairy free is much easier than the gluten > > Not sure about some kinds of butter being casein free, but ghee is. Ghee is > Indian clarified butter (which you can make yourself from butter) and is an > excellent source of many nutruents, check this link for details > http://www.kurma.net/ingredients/i2.html > Suprisingly it does not seem to come up in most books about casein free > eating. I strongly reccomend you all check it out as even if you are not > trying to go casein free, you should be eating ghee and not butter. As far > as avoiding gluten goes, you're right it is tough, but not not really too > hard if you avoid processed foods. Gluten is found in most mainstream > grains, but there are many grains that don't have it. Ancient grains like > amaranth, quinoa and millet don't have it and staches like rice and potatoes > are gluten free too (as are rice and potato flour as well as arrowroot and > tapioca starch). Soy is gluten free, but for other reasons is probably > better to avoid - at least as a daily part of your diet. With a little trial > and error, we have been able to make pancakes, scones, muffins, crackers and > even bread without any gluten or casein (and most health food stores sell > breads as well). Bread type products aside, the simplest way to go gluten > and casein free is to cook without a recipe. Rice or potato, vegies and meat > are all fine if prepared simply. We saw good results from getting on the > diet, but not as remarkable as some of the stories you here - still we are > sticking with it. > Ian > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Yes it is true that those are GF/CF, but they are sooooooooo bad for you. Margarines have hydrogenated and trans fats and many have preservatives, although not all. If you must go the margarine route, the absolute best one is called Earth Balance. It has no GMO's, no trans fats and 100% expeller pressed oils which are not hydrogenated. It is GF/CF but does have some soy protein in there so if you are avoiding soy then this one isn't for you. Otherwise, it is also the best tasting margarine out there. I know you can get it at Trader Joe's and I've seen in in other heath food markets as well. Better yet, skip the margarine altogether and use coconut butter (the healthiest fat on earth for dozens of reasons) or ghee/clarified butter, as Ian suggested yesterday. We use both and they taste great and have incredible nutritional value. On Saturday, April 26, 2003, at 05:26 AM, penelope_fam wrote: > Hains Safflower Margarine and Fleishman's LIGHT are GFCF > > > > > > > Also be to watch butter as it too has casein in it. You can > > find some that do not be to have it in it. Just be to read the > ingredients > > in the butters before to buy them. If not sure always read the > ingredients > > on each package. This is the one I to be to try to be to stay > faithful too. > > Dairy free is much easier than the gluten > > > > Not sure about some kinds of butter being casein free, but ghee is. > Ghee is > > Indian clarified butter (which you can make yourself from butter) > and is an > > excellent source of many nutruents, check this link for details > > http://www.kurma.net/ingredients/i2.html > > Suprisingly it does not seem to come up in most books about casein > free > > eating. I strongly reccomend you all check it out as even if you > are not > > trying to go casein free, you should be eating ghee and not butter. > As far > > as avoiding gluten goes, you're right it is tough, but not not > really too > > hard if you avoid processed foods. Gluten is found in most > mainstream > > grains, but there are many grains that don't have it. Ancient > grains like > > amaranth, quinoa and millet don't have it and staches like rice and > potatoes > > are gluten free too (as are rice and potato flour as well as > arrowroot and > > tapioca starch). Soy is gluten free, but for other reasons is > probably > > better to avoid - at least as a daily part of your diet. With a > little trial > > and error, we have been able to make pancakes, scones, muffins, > crackers and > > even bread without any gluten or casein (and most health food > stores sell > > breads as well). Bread type products aside, the simplest way to go > gluten > > and casein free is to cook without a recipe. Rice or potato, vegies > and meat > > are all fine if prepared simply. We saw good results from getting > on the > > diet, but not as remarkable as some of the stories you here - still > we are > > sticking with it. > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Wendie: Calcium supplementation is very important when you remove casein. VERY IMPORTANT. Both Woody McGuinness and Dorfman made this point in their presentations to our biomedical conf in March. Dr. McGuinness mentioned that since calcium is next to LEAD on the periodic chart, that when calcium goes down in the body, lead will increase, because things that have an affinity for calcium (and aren't getting the calcium) will look for lead. Kids who don't get enough calcium can also be eye pokers (Dr. Shaw talks about kids who poke out their eyes). You also want CALCIUM CITRATE. Not calcium carbonate (Tums) because it isn't absorbed well. No coral calcium or oyster shell calcium. Both are high in lead and are located in dirty waters. Coral Calcium is calcium carbonate (same as Tums). That's the very latest that we were told the last weekend in March. Good luck, Penny > > Dairy items that have any milk products or milk bi products, or > anything > > with casein as an ingredient in it. These are the things to avoid > including > > chocolates and such many soups have creams and or milk bi- products > too. Eggs > > would be not considered a dairy as they to not be to have casein in > them or > > milk added unless you to but premade mixes to make scrambled eggs > with . You > > can be to use rice milk or non dairy milks to make scrambled eggs > and or > > mashed potatoes. Also be to watch butter as it too has casein in > it. You can > > find some that do not be to have it in it. Just be to read the > ingredients > > in the butters before to buy them. If not sure always read the > ingredients > > on each package. This is the one I to be to try to be to stay > faithful too. > > Dairy free is much easier than the gluten. I to also try to avoid > using pre > > made mixes and boxed food items. I to be to try hard to cook all > foods from > > the natural form or buy the frozen vegetables. Because these pre > boxed > > things and such come with much additives to preserve them and this > too is > > not a good choice. It isnot just an autistic choice to avoid them > but a > > healthy choice to avoid them. I to be to eat much fresh veggies and > fruit > > and meats. I to be to do my own stir fry from scratch and such > things as > > this. because I to be to have control of what goes in. So as I to > be to > > share easiest to be to go dairy free and then change oils inthe > home but > > dont bet to forget as most important step in the diet change is to > > supplement the calcium and vitamin d as this is added to milk and > it the > > only thing healthy about milk , sad but true, it is what they added > to it > > that makes it healthy, but can be to get this source of vitamin and > minerals > > from other sources. > > Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Thanks Peggy, I have a calcium supplement that I bought before we eliminated dairy milk, cheese & yogurt. At this point though the girls are still getting the same amount of calcium as before, but when we really start the GF/CF diet I'll make sure to add the supplement. I'm so glad I asked about that!! Thank you!! Wendie > > > Dairy items that have any milk products or milk bi products, or > > anything > > > with casein as an ingredient in it. These are the things to avoid > > including > > > chocolates and such many soups have creams and or milk bi- > products > > too. Eggs > > > would be not considered a dairy as they to not be to have casein > in > > them or > > > milk added unless you to but premade mixes to make scrambled eggs > > with . You > > > can be to use rice milk or non dairy milks to make scrambled eggs > > and or > > > mashed potatoes. Also be to watch butter as it too has casein in > > it. You can > > > find some that do not be to have it in it. Just be to read the > > ingredients > > > in the butters before to buy them. If not sure always read the > > ingredients > > > on each package. This is the one I to be to try to be to stay > > faithful too. > > > Dairy free is much easier than the gluten. I to also try to avoid > > using pre > > > made mixes and boxed food items. I to be to try hard to cook all > > foods from > > > the natural form or buy the frozen vegetables. Because these pre > > boxed > > > things and such come with much additives to preserve them and > this > > too is > > > not a good choice. It isnot just an autistic choice to avoid them > > but a > > > healthy choice to avoid them. I to be to eat much fresh veggies > and > > fruit > > > and meats. I to be to do my own stir fry from scratch and such > > things as > > > this. because I to be to have control of what goes in. So as I to > > be to > > > share easiest to be to go dairy free and then change oils inthe > > home but > > > dont bet to forget as most important step in the diet change is to > > > supplement the calcium and vitamin d as this is added to milk and > > it the > > > only thing healthy about milk , sad but true, it is what they > added > > to it > > > that makes it healthy, but can be to get this source of vitamin > and > > minerals > > > from other sources. > > > Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Wendie, I get most of my supplements from www.kirkmanlabs.com This lab was created by Bernard Rimland. I guess I like getting most of mine there because they were made for autism and I don't worry as much about mercury and other extras. They are also mfg to be gfcf. HTH, Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Sondra, thank you for your reply. You guys are making me more aware of things & I so appreciate that. I need to read some more about all the supplements so I can be sure my girls are getting what they need. Wendie > Wendie this is probably true to some degree but I to know when I to be to go > to the Dan conference they to say if you take dairy out you must get calcium > and vitamin D in. Most families opted to do the supplement as often it was a > safer way of insuring the child was getting enough of the mineral and > vitamin. There are two different types of calcium and I to be not good on > which is which but many juices have the chalk (wrong kind) added Someone can > be to correct this is they to know the terms. This to be why it is hard for > me as my brain does not for some reason retain the terms to this. Yet I to > be aware of the things of it. I to opted to get supplements for to be safe > that my family is getting enough of the right type of calcium. > Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Thanks Debi!! I've heard a lot of great things about them so I think we'll give them a try once I figure out everything I think Sky needs. Wendie > Wendie, I get most of my supplements from www.kirkmanlabs.com This > lab was created by Bernard Rimland. I guess I like getting most of > mine there because they were made for autism and I don't worry as > much about mercury and other extras. They are also mfg to be gfcf. > > HTH, > Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 could anyone with knowledge on enzymes pass that along. we do not do the diet, however, I have been hearing from alot of sources that just doing the enzymes help alot of kids. My daughter shows no outward signs (I know that does not mean anything) of having any digestive problems, but I thought maybe a try with the enzymes might give me some idea if she does have problems with that. what are the best to use? and are they safe with other meds.? any info. would be of help, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 A need for meds is a reason to try enzymes or the GFCF diet. A child with an inability to digest gluten and casein is left with an opiate (gluteomorphin and casomorphin) undigested into its individual amino acids. Mainstream medicine often sees these children as needing meds instead of needing a dietary change. The missing enzyme, is, for now, named DPPIV. (Researchers think it may be another one not yet discovered). for enzyme research, join the enzymesandautism group and read their files. also www.kirkmanlabs.com www.houstonni.com Good luck, Penny > could anyone with knowledge on enzymes pass that along. we do not do the diet, however, I have been hearing from alot of sources that just doing the enzymes help alot of kids. My daughter shows no outward signs (I know that does not mean anything) of having any digestive problems, but I thought maybe a try with the enzymes might give me some idea if she does have problems with that. what are the best to use? and are they safe with other meds.? any info. would be of help, thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Wendie, Unravelling The Mysteries of Autism and PDD is a great book that explains the diet. I've also heard a Jackie McCandless (correct?) has a book out, Starving Kids, Starving Brains, or something like that. I'm gonna get this one soon to read, I think it discusses supplements. Debo > Sondra, thank you for your reply. You guys are making me more aware > of things & I so appreciate that. I need to read some more about all > the supplements so I can be sure my girls are getting what they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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