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No.Do only one set during the initial training period. After that,you could add two sets. Rich v26pv26pv wrote: I might be missing something I just started the BW and am into or up to exercise 12 or soI do only one set Should I be doing more

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I'm 34, so yes I'm a newbie. Brawnknuj_gse wrote: >> I understand there is no real advantage to> more than 7 second holds. My opinion about statements like this is that theyonly refer to one aspect. In this case, strength.As such, the statement is mostly true.But

do we want to develop only strength? How aboutendurance? recovery? flexibility? circulation? (Forthe last, I have a BW at my computer desk and dosome presses or pulls whenever I feel my circulationstagnating from just sitting in front of the computer. With my new 20-inch, I have a gadget that's even less obtrusive.)Why do I say "mostly" true only? Because we may notbe contracting our muscles properly (through nofault of our own) as shown by the following experience I usually have:Take the press in front of the chest. I sometimespress to "my max" and then hold, but am surprisedto see that some seconds into the contraction, Ican press further, and still some more a few moreseconds further on, and then some. So my first press was not my max, even if I thought it was so.So when we see statements that say 70% for 7 secondsis enough, are we really into our 70%? (or whatevervalue the

statements give) Are we really recruitingenough fibers for the perceived maximum gain?> By the way, after years of trying to find a workout> program I actually enjoy I succeeded. Last spring,> I stumbled onto the BW and haven't looked back.Welcome to the group of believers. :)How young are you? LOLIt seems that us oldies in this group who knew aboutthe Bullworker since the '70s or earlier needed noconvincing. ;) Maybe it was because we were convinceddecades ago.Gerry

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I think Gerry makes a good point and I do 3 each of the exercises for

seven second hold each. I too find that the second one I compress a

bit more than the first. I like to look at it as knowing that one of

the three had the right compression or expansion percentage for the

exercise.

Dave

> >

> > I understand there is no real advantage to

> > more than 7 second holds.

>

> My opinion about statements like this is that they

> only refer to one aspect. In this case, strength.

> As such, the statement is mostly true.

>

> But do we want to develop only strength? How about

> endurance? recovery? flexibility? circulation? (For

> the last, I have a BW at my computer desk and do

> some presses or pulls whenever I feel my circulation

> stagnating from just sitting in front of the

> computer. With my new 20-inch, I have a gadget

> that's even less obtrusive.)

>

> Why do I say " mostly " true only? Because we may not

> be contracting our muscles properly (through no

> fault of our own) as shown by the following

> experience I usually have:

>

> Take the press in front of the chest. I sometimes

> press to " my max " and then hold, but am surprised

> to see that some seconds into the contraction, I

> can press further, and still some more a few more

> seconds further on, and then some. So my first

> press was not my max, even if I thought it was so.

>

> So when we see statements that say 70% for 7 seconds

> is enough, are we really into our 70%? (or whatever

> value the statements give) Are we really recruiting

> enough fibers for the perceived maximum gain?

>

> > By the way, after years of trying to find a workout

> > program I actually enjoy I succeeded. Last spring,

> > I stumbled onto the BW and haven't looked back.

>

> Welcome to the group of believers. :)

>

> How young are you? LOL

>

> It seems that us oldies in this group who knew about

> the Bullworker since the '70s or earlier needed no

> convincing. ;) Maybe it was because we were convinced

> decades ago.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>Gidday from New Zealand. When I got my green bullworker (which I

still use daily & have really been using heaps lately) nearly 30 years

ago it came with quite an informative manual (which I cant find now).

This explained about the 7 sec thingie but it DID mention that there

is some benefit from using 16 sec contractions instead of 7 secs. So I

mainly have used 16 sec holds, but do 7 sec ones if I'm in a hurry.

Also for the chest press it said for maximum effect breathe in before

the contraction then hold the contraction for 20 secs without

breathing in. Actually that is quite a feat! Kind Regards Wingi

> I understand there is no real advantage to more than 7 second holds. Is

> the same true for multiple sets? I tend to do the whole upper body

> workout 5 days a week with only 1 seven second hold for each exercise.

> I would really like to hear everyone's personal workout. By the way,

> after years of trying to find a workout program I actually enjoy I

> succeeded. Last spring, I stumbled onto the BW and haven't looked back.

>

> Brawn

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> I understand there is no real advantage to more than 7 second

holds. Is

> the same true for multiple sets? I tend to do the whole upper body

> workout 5 days a week with only 1 seven second hold for each

exercise.

> I would really like to hear everyone's personal workout. By the

way,

> after years of trying to find a workout program I actually enjoy I

> succeeded. Last spring, I stumbled onto the BW and haven't looked

back.

>

> Brawn

>

Hello Brawn,

I have recently bought Gert Koebel's Exxerwatch and the suggestions

for training are as follows:

Fast: Pick 7 exwercises (one for each muscle group) and do an

isometric hold that you can MAINTAIN constantly for 15 secs. Once

your strength has increased so that you can maintain that EXACT hold

for 30 secs, increase the pressure so that you again can only

maintain it for 15 secs and so on.

Regular (these apply to a lesser degree to a full-size BW as they are

meant to be done as iso-kinetic/isomotion exercises): do 3 sets of 10

repetitions for each exercise while maintining constant pressure.

Hope this helps...Mike

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Thanks, Mike. BrawnMike wrote: >> I understand there is no real advantage to more than 7 second holds. Is > the same true for multiple sets? I tend to do the whole upper body > workout 5 days a week with only 1 seven second hold for each exercise. > I would

really like to hear everyone's personal workout. By the way, > after years of trying to find a workout program I actually enjoy I > succeeded. Last spring, I stumbled onto the BW and haven't looked back.> > Brawn>Hello Brawn,I have recently bought Gert Koebel's Exxerwatch and the suggestions for training are as follows:Fast: Pick 7 exwercises (one for each muscle group) and do an isometric hold that you can MAINTAIN constantly for 15 secs. Once your strength has increased so that you can maintain that EXACT hold for 30 secs, increase the pressure so that you again can only maintain it for 15 secs and so on.Regular (these apply to a lesser degree to a full-size BW as they are meant to be done as iso-kinetic/isomotion exercises): do 3 sets of 10 repetitions for each exercise while maintining constant pressure.Hope this

helps...Mike

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One thing I forgot: Gert Koelbel recommends training on every 2nd day

only, the theory being that muscles need rest to properly grow and

develop. So I am doing upper body exercises one day, legs the next

and so on.

Kind regards...Mike

> >

> > I understand there is no real advantage to more than 7 second

> holds. Is

> > the same true for multiple sets? I tend to do the whole upper

body

> > workout 5 days a week with only 1 seven second hold for each

> exercise.

> > I would really like to hear everyone's personal workout. By the

> way,

> > after years of trying to find a workout program I actually enjoy

I

> > succeeded. Last spring, I stumbled onto the BW and haven't looked

> back.

> >

> > Brawn

> >

>

> Hello Brawn,

>

> I have recently bought Gert Koebel's Exxerwatch and the suggestions

> for training are as follows:

>

> Fast: Pick 7 exwercises (one for each muscle group) and do an

> isometric hold that you can MAINTAIN constantly for 15 secs. Once

> your strength has increased so that you can maintain that EXACT

hold

> for 30 secs, increase the pressure so that you again can only

> maintain it for 15 secs and so on.

>

> Regular (these apply to a lesser degree to a full-size BW as they

are

> meant to be done as iso-kinetic/isomotion exercises): do 3 sets of

10

> repetitions for each exercise while maintining constant pressure.

>

> Hope this helps...Mike

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels

> in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

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> > I understand there is no real advantage to more than 7 second

> holds. Is

> > the same true for multiple sets? I tend to do the whole upper body

> > workout 5 days a week with only 1 seven second hold for each

> exercise.

> > I would really like to hear everyone's personal workout. By the

> way,

> > after years of trying to find a workout program I actually enjoy I

> > succeeded. Last spring, I stumbled onto the BW and haven't looked

> back.

> >

> > Brawn

> >

>

> Hello Brawn,

>

> I have recently bought Gert Koebel's Exxerwatch and the suggestions

> for training are as follows:

>

> Fast: Pick 7 exwercises (one for each muscle group) and do an

> isometric hold that you can MAINTAIN constantly for 15 secs. Once

> your strength has increased so that you can maintain that EXACT hold

> for 30 secs, increase the pressure so that you again can only

> maintain it for 15 secs and so on.

>

> Regular (these apply to a lesser degree to a full-size BW as they are

> meant to be done as iso-kinetic/isomotion exercises): do 3 sets of 10

> repetitions for each exercise while maintining constant pressure.

>

> Hope this helps...Mike

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels

> in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

>

I Do 3 sets with 10 reps... holding the last rep for 10 seconds on

each set. so far its been a really good workout.

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