Re: another link explaining why G may succed where many DANs fail...

[Guest guest]

Possible, but it could also be the case whereas some of the SSRIs

simultanously target receptors in the brain/CNS as well as those same

types in the gut (many same type cell surface receptors are present both

in and around the brain and in the gut...)

natasa x

>

> So, though K is no fan of G's diet advice he sent me a link on IBS

> which explains why G has the success rate he does, In K's opinion, in

> kids with gut issues...the ssris which are not a part of anyoone

> else's strategies, it seems, are key in an allopathic approach to

> IBS. G may not be treating IBS and other related GI disorders, but

> he may be addressing them, nonetheless, and when bowel function is

> restored, inflamation, goes away, stools, normalize, nutritional

> deficiencies no longer mess with the body's microflora balance

> leading to candida overgrowth and bacterial infections...viola, no

> more autism he says...bc it was never autism in the first place but

> GI disorders leading to acute malnutrition, malabsortion, severe

> diseases and infections the result of all this dysbisiosis...K cannot

> speak to the whole viral thing as it is not what he does, but it

> makes sense to him that with a sterile gut that cannot produce the b

> and ks anymore or control candida and clotridia levels etc etc all

> manners of illness could rage in a body...the viral startegies will

> nto work in and of themselves though without healing the gut with a

> low to no fiber diet, some supplementation, and NORMALIZING bowel

> function and reducing inflammation...so we are trying to do all that

> now with Matt and will let other gut kid parents know how we

> fare....Di

>

> http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/ibs.html

>

[Guest guest]

I had terrible chronic (3 months straight) vertigo 7 years ago. My dr rxed an antidepressant (elavil) and it got rid of the vertigo. It clearly had some sort of brain anti-inflammatory property.

Caryn Reid

[Guest guest]

Yikes - I do not know...I will ask him if the ssris come up for

Matt. Not all kids get them or need thems o I am unsure - thanks for

telling me this. Di

>

>

> So, though K is no fan of G's diet advice he sent me a link on

IBS

> which explains why G has the success rate he does, In K's

opinion, in

> kids with gut issues...the ssris which are not a part of

anyoone

> else's strategies

>

> ====>Oh, yeah, they have been giving SSRI's to ASD kids for

years, psychiatrists, that is. And while they are great for some

kids, they have been disastrous for other children as a significan

subset of ASD kids are high serotonin, not low.

>

> I've seen people when they get too much serotonin and it's not

pretty. Wonder how or if G ferrets out which kids would be high and

which low as serotonin is notoriously hard to measure accurately.

>

>

>

>

>

> , it seems, are key in an allopathic approach to

> IBS. G may not be treating IBS and other related GI disorders,

but

> he may be addressing them, nonetheless, and when bowel function

is

> restored, inflamation, goes away, stools, normalize,

nutritional

> deficiencies no longer mess with the body's microflora balance

> leading to candida overgrowth and bacterial infections...viola,

no

> more autism he says...bc it was never autism in the first place

but

> GI disorders leading to acute malnutrition, malabsortion,

severe

> diseases and infections the result of all this dysbisiosis...K

cannot

> speak to the whole viral thing as it is not what he does, but

it

> makes sense to him that with a sterile gut that cannot produce

the b

> and ks anymore or control candida and clotridia levels etc etc

all

> manners of illness could rage in a body...the viral startegies

will

> nto work in and of themselves though without healing the gut

with a

> low to no fiber diet, some supplementation, and NORMALIZING

bowel

> function and reducing inflammation...so we are trying to do all

that

> now with Matt and will let other gut kid parents know how we

> fare....Di

>

> http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/ibs.html

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl - we just started Famvir - this one didn;t work for you, aye?

It will be a month beofre we are on an antifungal - was this a big

problem for you...Di

>

> > So, though K is no fan of G's diet advice he sent me a link on IBS

> > which explains why G has the success rate he does, In K's

opinion, in

> > kids with gut issues...the ssris which are not a part of anyoone

> > else's strategies, it seems, are key in an allopathic approach to

> > IBS. G may not be treating IBS and other related GI disorders, but

> > he may be addressing them, nonetheless, and when bowel function is

> > restored, inflamation, goes away, stools, normalize, nutritional

> > deficiencies no longer mess with the body's microflora balance

> > leading to candida overgrowth and bacterial infections...viola, no

> > more autism he says...bc it was never autism in the first place

but

> > GI disorders leading to acute malnutrition, malabsortion, severe

> > diseases and infections the result of all this dysbisiosis...K

cannot

> > speak to the whole viral thing as it is not what he does, but it

> > makes sense to him that with a sterile gut that cannot produce

the b

> > and ks anymore or control candida and clotridia levels etc etc all

> > manners of illness could rage in a body...the viral startegies

will

> > nto work in and of themselves though without healing the gut with

a

> > low to no fiber diet, some supplementation, and NORMALIZING bowel

> > function and reducing inflammation...so we are trying to do all

that

> > now with Matt and will let other gut kid parents know how we

> > fare....Di

> >

> > http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/ibs.html

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Anyone doing Dr. G's protocol will be put on an ssri. He does not use

them for increased seratonin. He uses it for increased blood flow to

the brain and immune modulation. It's low dose. According to him,

it's about 1/2 the typical dose they would use for the age.

Cheryl

> >

> >

> > So, though K is no fan of G's diet advice he sent me a link on

> IBS

> > which explains why G has the success rate he does, In K's

> opinion, in

> > kids with gut issues...the ssris which are not a part of

> anyoone

> > else's strategies

> >

> > ====>Oh, yeah, they have been giving SSRI's to ASD kids for

> years, psychiatrists, that is. And while they are great for some

> kids, they have been disastrous for other children as a significan

> subset of ASD kids are high serotonin, not low.

> >

> > I've seen people when they get too much serotonin and it's not

> pretty. Wonder how or if G ferrets out which kids would be high and

> which low as serotonin is notoriously hard to measure accurately.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , it seems, are key in an allopathic approach to

> > IBS. G may not be treating IBS and other related GI disorders,

> but

> > he may be addressing them, nonetheless, and when bowel function

> is

> > restored, inflamation, goes away, stools, normalize,

> nutritional

> > deficiencies no longer mess with the body's microflora balance

> > leading to candida overgrowth and bacterial infections...viola,

> no

> > more autism he says...bc it was never autism in the first place

> but

> > GI disorders leading to acute malnutrition, malabsortion,

> severe

> > diseases and infections the result of all this dysbisiosis...K

> cannot

> > speak to the whole viral thing as it is not what he does, but

> it

> > makes sense to him that with a sterile gut that cannot produce

> the b

> > and ks anymore or control candida and clotridia levels etc etc

> all

> > manners of illness could rage in a body...the viral startegies

> will

> > nto work in and of themselves though without healing the gut

> with a

> > low to no fiber diet, some supplementation, and NORMALIZING

> bowel

> > function and reducing inflammation...so we are trying to do all

> that

> > now with Matt and will let other gut kid parents know how we

> > fare....Di

> >

> > http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/ibs.html

> >

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: midian42

Anyone doing Dr. G's protocol will be put on an ssri. He does not usethem for increased seratonin.

====>Not trying to be flip or cute but the SSRI doesn't know the reason you are giving it, the drug just does what it does and it increases serotonin availability which would be disadvantageous to anyone who had elevated serotonin, notwithstanding the 1/2 dose.

SSRI's work by decreasing the uptake of serotonin by synapses and making more serotonin available to the body. There is nothing in the literature nor does it make any appreciable sense to believe that giving 1/2 dose would be a go around for not increasing serotonin.

He uses it for increased blood flow tothe brain and immune modulation. It's low dose. According to him,it's about 1/2 the typical dose they would use for the age.Cheryl> > > > > > So, though K is no fan of G's diet advice he sent me a link on > IBS > > which explains why G has the success rate he does, In K's > opinion, in > > kids with gut issues...the ssris which are not a part of > anyoone > > else's strategies> > > > ====>Oh, yeah, they have been giving SSRI's to ASD kids for > years, psychiatrists, that is. And while they are great for some > kids, they have been disastrous for other children as a significan > subset of ASD kids are high serotonin, not low.> > > > I've seen people when they get too much serotonin and it's not > pretty. Wonder how or if G ferrets out which kids would be high and > which low as serotonin is notoriously hard to measure accurately.> > > > > > > > > > > > , it seems, are key in an allopathic approach to > > IBS. G may not be treating IBS and other related GI disorders, > but > > he may be addressing them, nonetheless, and when bowel function > is > > restored, inflamation, goes away, stools, normalize, > nutritional > > deficiencies no longer mess with the body's microflora balance > > leading to candida overgrowth and bacterial infections...viola, > no > > more autism he says...bc it was never autism in the first place > but > > GI disorders leading to acute malnutrition, malabsortion, > severe > > diseases and infections the result of all this dysbisiosis...K > cannot > > speak to the whole viral thing as it is not what he does, but > it > > makes sense to him that with a sterile gut that cannot produce > the b > > and ks anymore or control candida and clotridia levels etc etc > all > > manners of illness could rage in a body...the viral startegies > will > > nto work in and of themselves though without healing the gut > with a > > low to no fiber diet, some supplementation, and NORMALIZING > bowel > > function and reducing inflammation...so we are trying to do all > that > > now with Matt and will let other gut kid parents know how we > > fare....Di> > > > http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/ibs.html> >>

[Guest guest]

Did you do it in combo with diet changes? Diane

> >

> > > So, though K is no fan of G's diet advice he sent me a link on

IBS

> > > which explains why G has the success rate he does, In K's

> opinion, in

> > > kids with gut issues...the ssris which are not a part of anyoone

> > > else's strategies, it seems, are key in an allopathic approach

to

> > > IBS. G may not be treating IBS and other related GI disorders,

but

> > > he may be addressing them, nonetheless, and when bowel function

is

> > > restored, inflamation, goes away, stools, normalize, nutritional

> > > deficiencies no longer mess with the body's microflora balance

> > > leading to candida overgrowth and bacterial infections...viola,

no

> > > more autism he says...bc it was never autism in the first place

> but

> > > GI disorders leading to acute malnutrition, malabsortion, severe

> > > diseases and infections the result of all this dysbisiosis...K

> cannot

> > > speak to the whole viral thing as it is not what he does, but it

> > > makes sense to him that with a sterile gut that cannot produce

> the b

> > > and ks anymore or control candida and clotridia levels etc etc

all

> > > manners of illness could rage in a body...the viral startegies

> will

> > > nto work in and of themselves though without healing the gut

with

> a

> > > low to no fiber diet, some supplementation, and NORMALIZING

bowel

> > > function and reducing inflammation...so we are trying to do all

> that

> > > now with Matt and will let other gut kid parents know how we

> > > fare....Di

> > >

> > > http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/ibs.html

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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