Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Great story!! I wish the EKG tests was to debunk the low TSH heart problem myth!(And I am just hypothyroid without hashi's, too. No antibodies.) I don't have hashi's. No antibodies have ever been found. I'm just hypothyroid, deeply, from childhood. Every symptom of disease and disorder improves when I have enough thyroid in my system. Symptoms that appear to be allergies or sinusitis go away. Digestive problems, spastic colon, tinnitus, all go away. Cholesterol goes down, triglycerides go down. Everything improves. Amazingly, in the face of this improvement, some medical personnel still insist that my barely measurable TSH is a problem. I've been participating in a trial that is comparing a digital EKG to analogue EKGs. The nurses, the doctor who invented the thing, all gave me a really rough time about my next to non-existent TSH. A couple of days later, the results of two EKGs: my heart profiles like someone a couple of decades younger than I am. Gotta be strong. > > Hi, > > i would like to know is there someone out there that never had a problem with hasi and other helath problems, but only is dealing with the thyroid. as i am conserned that all the problems that i have read on boards is going to happen to me. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I know. I feel so much better when TSH is suppressed. A couple of years ago it seems the docs I went to ignored the TSH and now, even the alternative ones are concerned about it...I am so confused as I have been diagnosed with osteopenia and according to them a low TSH can contribute to this. Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC Life Transformation Coaching and Counseling www.stephanieecke.com "Let the Transformation Begin!" Re: will this happen I don't have hashi's. No antibodies have ever been found. I'm just hypothyroid, deeply, from childhood. Every symptom of disease and disorder improves when I have enough thyroid in my system. Symptoms that appear to be allergies or sinusitis go away. Digestive problems, spastic colon, tinnitus, all go away. Cholesterol goes down, triglycerides go down. Everything improves. Amazingly, in the face of this improvement, some medical personnel still insist that my barely measurable TSH is a problem. I've been participating in a trial that is comparing a digital EKG to analogue EKGs. The nurses, the doctor who invented the thing, all gave me a really rough time about my next to non-existent TSH. A couple of days later, the results of two EKGs: my heart profiles like someone a couple of decades younger than I am. Gotta be strong. > > Hi, > > i would like to know is there someone out there that never had a problem with hasi and other helath problems, but only is dealing with the thyroid. as i am conserned that all the problems that i have read on boards is going to happen to me. Thanks. > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I hear you, sister.....I was feeling great until I ran out of armour......then crash.... Keep your fingers crossed, but I believe i have found some armour......my doctor has has raised my dose to 4gr. I am looking forward to feeling normal again!!! Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC Life Transformation Coaching and Counseling www.stephanieecke.com "Let the Transformation Begin!" Re: will this happen You have a terrific memory. I'm really impressed. I salute you! And your memory cells! It sounds like you're in a place to really make forward strides. I really hope that's the case for you. Yes, I completed a half-marathon (13.1 miles) in January 2009. The race clarified a problem with mis-aligned hips, but honestly, despite the injury, which was successfully treated by a chiro, I was ecstatic for days after completing the run. Then I went traveling in Massachusetts to see old friends, was a great pedestrian, used the T in Boston effortlessly -- I was strong, I felt good. I felt in balance. I mean I could feel it. Then came the summer of discontent with the new Armour. With a fuzzy head, I honestly didn't realize that I was gaining weight. To me, it seems sudden that my clothes stopped fitting so well. On to compounded piggie thyroid. The dose wasn't perfect, but it wasn't horrible, either. December in Houston was very, very cold. I stopped functioning. My basal temp was 97. Every part of my body was cold to the touch. Friends and family were alarmed. I found an old stash of old Armour and added a 1/4 tab, then a 1/2 tab. On February 4, I became my better self again. What a journey, a far-too-long journey. I try not to feel sorry for myself, but don't always succeed. Sometimes I think I just need to give in to it for awhile. I'm planning on wogging another half-marathon in April. Just getting across the finish line before they close down the course is the goal. I see Dr. R in a couple of weeks. My job goes away in a couple of months. If I just have enough thyroid hormone, though, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be okay. Thank you. kidbobo > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > i would like to know is there someone out there that never had a problem with hasi and other helath problems, but only is dealing with the thyroid. as i am conserned that all the problems that i have read on boards is going to happen to me. Thanks. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I hear you, sister.....I was feeling great until I ran out of armour......then crash.... Keep your fingers crossed, but I believe i have found some armour......my doctor has has raised my dose to 4gr. I am looking forward to feeling normal again!!! Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC Life Transformation Coaching and Counseling www.stephanieecke.com "Let the Transformation Begin!" Re: will this happen You have a terrific memory. I'm really impressed. I salute you! And your memory cells! It sounds like you're in a place to really make forward strides. I really hope that's the case for you. Yes, I completed a half-marathon (13.1 miles) in January 2009. The race clarified a problem with mis-aligned hips, but honestly, despite the injury, which was successfully treated by a chiro, I was ecstatic for days after completing the run. Then I went traveling in Massachusetts to see old friends, was a great pedestrian, used the T in Boston effortlessly -- I was strong, I felt good. I felt in balance. I mean I could feel it. Then came the summer of discontent with the new Armour. With a fuzzy head, I honestly didn't realize that I was gaining weight. To me, it seems sudden that my clothes stopped fitting so well. On to compounded piggie thyroid. The dose wasn't perfect, but it wasn't horrible, either. December in Houston was very, very cold. I stopped functioning. My basal temp was 97. Every part of my body was cold to the touch. Friends and family were alarmed. I found an old stash of old Armour and added a 1/4 tab, then a 1/2 tab. On February 4, I became my better self again. What a journey, a far-too-long journey. I try not to feel sorry for myself, but don't always succeed. Sometimes I think I just need to give in to it for awhile. I'm planning on wogging another half-marathon in April. Just getting across the finish line before they close down the course is the goal. I see Dr. R in a couple of weeks. My job goes away in a couple of months. If I just have enough thyroid hormone, though, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be okay. Thank you. kidbobo > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > i would like to know is there someone out there that never had a problem with hasi and other helath problems, but only is dealing with the thyroid. as i am conserned that all the problems that i have read on boards is going to happen to me. Thanks. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 what is p-thyroid? Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC Life Transformation Coaching and Counseling www.stephanieecke.com "Let the Transformation Begin!" Re: will this happen Well, thanks - my brain cells seem to fire up just fine when the meds are right, just as you said. My P-throid has me kinda "zippy" right now so I'm working my way through it. But feeling pretty good on it. The ol' brain is really firing away! ha-ha. I'm becoming manic about getting projects completed and have yellow sticky notes all over the place, I'm thinking of things so fast. Even got T-Tapp (Rehab version tho') and DH and I are going to start it up this weekend and see what it's like. He thought it looked really cool. I've got to get stronger and get these atrophied muscles and joints to wake up. And DH went through the slide last summer, too, and needs to get his core stronger again. Interesting how we're all so different with the body temps. I did ok on the RLC products I had through the holidays. OK, but not the nice "high" and feeling of contentment I felt on the old Armour into July. And then the slide hit. Instead of being cold, I found myself getting warmer into the fall. In fact, while we were up in KS for about 25 days over the holidays, right through the single digit highs and down to the 14-below mornings, I actually felt better. My toes and fingers weren't cold for the first time in ages. I relished the snow and cold air. I ran around in just layered t-shirts, cotton turtle necks, and zip hoodies and my Uggs. I could run to the car without mittens or a hat and just my parka over a t-shirt. It was very weird. I felt so comfortable in that terrible cold! Maybe I'm having a very long hot flash, ha-ha. I'm sleeping in a t-shirt in 63-64 degrees at night with just a sheet over me. No sweating or sudden feeling of extreme heat. Just feel warm consist ently. I can't even keep my laptop on my legs for too long or I get too hot. Need to see what my BBTs are running. I think I'll just work with the P-throid for now, as it seems ok for me. I'm hoping for a settling in with just one med for a long time. No more switching, pleeeeze!!! Best of luck with the half marathon. You're certainly an inspiration! And I hope your job situation gets back on track real soon. Sara > > You have a terrific memory. I'm really impressed. I salute you! And your memory cells! > > It sounds like you're in a place to really make forward strides. I really hope that's the case for you. > > Yes, I completed a half-marathon (13.1 miles) in January 2009. The race clarified a problem with mis-aligned hips, but honestly, despite the injury, which was successfully treated by a chiro, I was ecstatic for days after completing the run. > > Then I went traveling in Massachusetts to see old friends, was a great pedestrian, used the T in Boston effortlessly -- I was strong, I felt good. I felt in balance. I mean I could feel it. > > Then came the summer of discontent with the new Armour. With a fuzzy head, I honestly didn't realize that I was gaining weight. To me, it seems sudden that my clothes stopped fitting so well. > > On to compounded piggie thyroid. The dose wasn't perfect, but it wasn't horrible, either. > > December in Houston was very, very cold. I stopped functioning. My basal temp was 97. Every part of my body was cold to the touch. Friends and family were alarmed. I found an old stash of old Armour and added a 1/4 tab, then a 1/2 tab. > > On February 4, I became my better self again. What a journey, a far-too-long journey. I try not to feel sorry for myself, but don't always succeed. Sometimes I think I just need to give in to it for awhile. > > I'm planning on wogging another half-marathon in April. Just getting across the finish line before they close down the course is the goal. > > I see Dr. R in a couple of weeks. My job goes away in a couple of months. If I just have enough thyroid hormone, though, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be okay. > > Thank you. > > kidbobo > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Osteopenia is far more likely due to undiagnosed celiac than due to low TSH - IMHO the low TSH is coincidental and not causative. I also have osteopenia and most docs acknowledge it's due to not having been diagnosed as celiac until I was 42 as well as just being petite. IMHO, the research correlating osteopenia/osteoperosis with low TSH is flawed since they did not screen for celiac and the correlation between hypothyroidism and celiac is extremely well documented in oddles of medical research. The basic science behind why the TSH goes low when we are taking T3 is because the pituitary is far more sensitive to T3 than it is to T4. It would be illogical if the TSH didn't drop. I did some research and the heart issues are far more likely related to pituitary abnormalities and NOT thyroid. The low TSH is a red herring IMHO - there was one research article showing no difference between incidence of heart problems between folks that had a suppressed TSH or not and that was taking T4 only. Also, you can have hashi's and NOT have the antibodies - of the three of us that are hypo in my family, only my younger son had antibodies. But, my older son's thyroid was clearly hashi's based on the sonogram. I know. I feel so much better when TSH is suppressed. A couple of years ago it seems the docs I went to ignored the TSH and now, even the alternative ones are concerned about it...I am so confused as I have been diagnosed with osteopenia and according to them a low TSH can contribute to this. Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC Life Transformation Coaching and Counseling www.stephanieecke.com "Let the Transformation Begin!" -----Original Message----- From: kidbobo2001 <kidbobo2001> To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Sent: Tue, Feb 23, 2010 6:24 pm Subject: Re: will this happen I don't have hashi's. No antibodies have ever been found. I'm just hypothyroid, deeply, from childhood. Every symptom of disease and disorder improves when I have enough thyroid in my system. Symptoms that appear to be allergies or sinusitis go away. Digestive problems, spastic colon, tinnitus, all go away. Cholesterol goes down, triglycerides go down. Everything improves. Amazingly, in the face of this improvement, some medical personnel still insist that my barely measurable TSH is a problem. I've been participating in a trial that is comparing a digital EKG to analogue EKGs. The nurses, the doctor who invented the thing, all gave me a really rough time about my next to non-existent TSH. A couple of days later, the results of two EKGs: my heart profiles like someone a couple of decades younger than I am. Gotta be strong. > > Hi, > > i would like to know is there someone out there that never had a problem with hasi and other helath problems, but only is dealing with the thyroid. as i am conserned that all the problems that i have read on boards is going to happen to me. Thanks. > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Great News! Thanks for sharing. Kim From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of kidbobo2001 Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:25 PM To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: will this happen I don't have hashi's. No antibodies have ever been found. I'm just hypothyroid, deeply, from childhood. Every symptom of disease and disorder improves when I have enough thyroid in my system. Symptoms that appear to be allergies or sinusitis go away. Digestive problems, spastic colon, tinnitus, all go away. Cholesterol goes down, triglycerides go down. Everything improves. Amazingly, in the face of this improvement, some medical personnel still insist that my barely measurable TSH is a problem. I've been participating in a trial that is comparing a digital EKG to analogue EKGs. The nurses, the doctor who invented the thing, all gave me a really rough time about my next to non-existent TSH. A couple of days later, the results of two EKGs: my heart profiles like someone a couple of decades younger than I am. Gotta be strong. > > Hi, > > i would like to know is there someone out there that never had a problem with hasi and other helath problems, but only is dealing with the thyroid. as i am conserned that all the problems that i have read on boards is going to happen to me. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 I recently went to see Dr. -Rigau and found it funny during the discussion of my medical history (1st appointment stuff) his student doctor made a noise when I said I was on 3 grains of Armour like a disbelief type of a noise - Dr. R-R didn't bat an eyelash - I have yet to get his thoughts on the matter as I was there for infertility issues not thyroid. However, I did want to say that I used FEEL the irregular heart beats BEFORE I was put on Armour and even once in a great while ON Armour but I notice it's when I'm starting to feel hypo and need an increase and when I do increase it's gone again. THAT particular day I didn't take my Armour because I read that to get an accurate reading on the thyroid panel you should skip the normal dose and I knew they would be doing a hormone panel to include full thyroid(I had accidentally fell asleep the night prior w/out taking - so I actually missed 2 doses - felt awful!). So, after the history discussion, when the student doctor listened to my heart she said that there was a definite lapse of the beat and then a strong out of place beat. She also had me put my hand stretched in front of me and said she thought the Armour was too high a dose because my hands were a slight shakey. Dr. R-R was not in the room at the time and he never once mentioned the Armour at all ever, so I'm sure we'll get the thyroid discussion after the panels come back. My point is - 30 minutes after I took my Armour the shakiness in my hands went away and I feel like my body was just needing it's medication. Thanks for listening! Leigh Subject: Re: will this happenTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 5:54 PM Several years ago, the doctor who first prescribed Armour for me said something to the effect, "If I don't treat you now for thyroid, I will definitely be treating you in the future for heart disease."For a long time, I didn't understand why.Then I came across a paper that made it clear for me. Many organs in the body convert T4 to T3, the liver, the kidney. BUT the heart can not do that. For T3, it is solely dependent on T3 in the blood stream.Doesn't that just knock your socks off?At that time, I also came across two studies of heart attack patients. Both reported similar numbers: about 80% of the women in each group had endocrine issues.That's eye opening.> > >> > > Hi, > > > > > > i would like to know is there someone out there that never had a problem with hasi and other helath problems, but only is dealing with the thyroid. as i am conserned that all the problems that i have read on boards is going to happen to me. Thanks.> > >> > > >>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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