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Hi Theresa:

It sounds like your nada is not going to stop on her own.

I at one time looked into a restraining order because mnada would

show up at my house and yell in the windows and break into the garage

if I wouldn't let her in - which I didn't. She also showed up at my

daughter's school. I ended up calling the police 3 times. I didn't

end up getting the restraining order - because I moved into a gated

community - and my daughter is not with me at the moment. But even

though it wasn't physical abuse - the police told me to start

documenting what was happening - including phone calls, unwanted

visits, etc. The more third party reports you can get - the better.

So I would ask the Bible class teacher to document what happened. It

also wouldn't hurt for you to write a letter to anyone in charge of

youth activities at the church or any other activities that your

daughter goes to - saying that nada does not have permission to talk

to - pick up, etc your daughter. In my experience, organizations pay

attention to these kinds of letters. Then you have it documented

that nada is not to be bothering your daughter - so when others

document what happened - it can be more objective - nada didn't

listen to activity leader who asked her to leave because mother of

(name) has requested that she not be permitted access to (name) - or

something - I'm not a lawyer.

I found some very helpful websites - they are often for battered

women - but they have a lot of information obout restraining orders

and what you need. It differs from state to state - and I don't know

where you are - so I don't have a link for you - but if you

google " restraining order NAME OF STATE " you should get information

about how to get a restraining order and what kind of documentation

you need.

Hope that helps,

Take care,

kath

theresa wrote:

> Once again, my daughter was in prayer chapel this evening b/c there

is

> a man who goes there that we are sort of friends with and she really

> likes to go and visit with him. Guess who went to visit

daughter?

> yes, as in 1 night after she took daughter out of bible class. I

did

> not say anything last night about the Bible class incident, but I

got

> a feeling she would sneak to talk to daughter today at prayer

chapel.

> She started talking about the horses again and stuff; daughter felt

> like crying. She really wanted to run away from nada. She is always

> afraid she will loook mean and disrespectful to others if she tells

> grandnada to go away and leave her alone. This is partly why nada

> thinks daughter really wants to be with grandnada; it's just me

> standing in the way. Well,fortuantely bible teacher saw

daughter's

> upset yesterday and will not permit that to happen again. But for

> the Fri night thing my daughter likes to go to - can't stop that one

> as easily.

>

> Well, daughter told me to call nada and tell her to stop coming to

see

> her like that. So I did. I called and asked nada " Why are you

going

> around my daughter when I am not there? " No answer. " Are you

going

> to stop it? " No answer. So I guess not. OBVIOUSLY She thinks

> she has a right to see her granddaughter. She wrote my daughter

some

> stupid note about how people are supposed to be the " Simon of

Cyrene "

> and help a grief stricken person carry the cross. BARFFF!!!!

>

> Ok. If I try this restraining order thing, I mean isn't it kind of

> dumb ? Who is going to take emotional abuse seriously? I don't

think

> some judge or court really will. I mean I can tell them my daughter

> and I feel harassed and that daughter feels threatened, but will

they

> really take that seriously? what's going to make them believe I

> ain't just someone whining about how my mother calls me more than

once

> a week or something.

>

> Even a few years agao when nada was acting crazy when I lived there

> and she ran away from home, when I talked to this priest we sort of

> knew about her affecting my daughter (who was then about 9 years

> old),he said, " Well, does she physically hurt her? " UGH!! No,

but

> mind torture is worse

>

> Theresa

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Hi Theresa:

It sounds like your nada is not going to stop on her own.

I at one time looked into a restraining order because mnada would

show up at my house and yell in the windows and break into the garage

if I wouldn't let her in - which I didn't. She also showed up at my

daughter's school. I ended up calling the police 3 times. I didn't

end up getting the restraining order - because I moved into a gated

community - and my daughter is not with me at the moment. But even

though it wasn't physical abuse - the police told me to start

documenting what was happening - including phone calls, unwanted

visits, etc. The more third party reports you can get - the better.

So I would ask the Bible class teacher to document what happened. It

also wouldn't hurt for you to write a letter to anyone in charge of

youth activities at the church or any other activities that your

daughter goes to - saying that nada does not have permission to talk

to - pick up, etc your daughter. In my experience, organizations pay

attention to these kinds of letters. Then you have it documented

that nada is not to be bothering your daughter - so when others

document what happened - it can be more objective - nada didn't

listen to activity leader who asked her to leave because mother of

(name) has requested that she not be permitted access to (name) - or

something - I'm not a lawyer.

I found some very helpful websites - they are often for battered

women - but they have a lot of information obout restraining orders

and what you need. It differs from state to state - and I don't know

where you are - so I don't have a link for you - but if you

google " restraining order NAME OF STATE " you should get information

about how to get a restraining order and what kind of documentation

you need.

Hope that helps,

Take care,

kath

theresa wrote:

> Once again, my daughter was in prayer chapel this evening b/c there

is

> a man who goes there that we are sort of friends with and she really

> likes to go and visit with him. Guess who went to visit

daughter?

> yes, as in 1 night after she took daughter out of bible class. I

did

> not say anything last night about the Bible class incident, but I

got

> a feeling she would sneak to talk to daughter today at prayer

chapel.

> She started talking about the horses again and stuff; daughter felt

> like crying. She really wanted to run away from nada. She is always

> afraid she will loook mean and disrespectful to others if she tells

> grandnada to go away and leave her alone. This is partly why nada

> thinks daughter really wants to be with grandnada; it's just me

> standing in the way. Well,fortuantely bible teacher saw

daughter's

> upset yesterday and will not permit that to happen again. But for

> the Fri night thing my daughter likes to go to - can't stop that one

> as easily.

>

> Well, daughter told me to call nada and tell her to stop coming to

see

> her like that. So I did. I called and asked nada " Why are you

going

> around my daughter when I am not there? " No answer. " Are you

going

> to stop it? " No answer. So I guess not. OBVIOUSLY She thinks

> she has a right to see her granddaughter. She wrote my daughter

some

> stupid note about how people are supposed to be the " Simon of

Cyrene "

> and help a grief stricken person carry the cross. BARFFF!!!!

>

> Ok. If I try this restraining order thing, I mean isn't it kind of

> dumb ? Who is going to take emotional abuse seriously? I don't

think

> some judge or court really will. I mean I can tell them my daughter

> and I feel harassed and that daughter feels threatened, but will

they

> really take that seriously? what's going to make them believe I

> ain't just someone whining about how my mother calls me more than

once

> a week or something.

>

> Even a few years agao when nada was acting crazy when I lived there

> and she ran away from home, when I talked to this priest we sort of

> knew about her affecting my daughter (who was then about 9 years

> old),he said, " Well, does she physically hurt her? " UGH!! No,

but

> mind torture is worse

>

> Theresa

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