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you know aint that the truth, when we feel one way for so long were not sure if it is the way we are suppose to feel or notm, cause we are use to feeling a certain way, i have hypothyroidism for many many years like 22, so when the hep dr asked me are you tired etc, this was a while ago, isaid well ya but i allways am, and i allways have a headache and my legs allways cramp i just thought that was me being normal turned out i need a higher dose of thyroid medication, and then you start to ques tourself the mind does love to mess with us,,,,,Dorothy wrote: Thank you. I just hope I didn’t jump from the frying pan into the fire! I just joined a group of Suboxone users so I’m curious to hear what others have to say. And now that I’m off the pain meds, maybe the pain hasn’t really been all that bad. How would I know? I’ve been taking pills for over 2 years! Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of m humanSent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:26

PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: Re: Suboxone I'm so glad you found a way to handle your pain that works for you. You deserve to feel good. Mike

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That is amazing,, maybe I need to look at this,, I tired of being tired,, and in pain,, Dorothy wrote: Well, I don’t know if it’s the absence of pain meds or the Suboxone, but it made a huge difference in how I feel. I know I’ve described it as a veil being lifted off of me. I don’t think I realized how I was being effected the last 2 years by the medication. And the fact that my pain is being controlled AND being just 2 shots away from the finish line………lots of good things happening right now for me. I know I’ve been deeply depressed & with good reasons (a failed marriage, loss of my job, illness for 2

years, dependent on pain meds, no income, toss in the interferon and menopause for good measure), but I felt so much better literally overnight. The doctor told me that I’d feel better than I had in a long, long time so I guess it’s the Suboxone. Even if it is chemically created, I’ll enjoy it………..it just feels so good to feel good! Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of SHARON CROSBYSent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:07 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: Re: Suboxone Dorothy, you SOUND like a new person. You sound very positive and upbeat. GOOD for you and Having a job will just increase the good feeling. NOTHIN' keeps you down for long and that's a real bonus in your life. Sharon in NW Washington Jackie

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That is amazing,, maybe I need to look at this,, I tired of being tired,, and in pain,, Dorothy wrote: Well, I don’t know if it’s the absence of pain meds or the Suboxone, but it made a huge difference in how I feel. I know I’ve described it as a veil being lifted off of me. I don’t think I realized how I was being effected the last 2 years by the medication. And the fact that my pain is being controlled AND being just 2 shots away from the finish line………lots of good things happening right now for me. I know I’ve been deeply depressed & with good reasons (a failed marriage, loss of my job, illness for 2

years, dependent on pain meds, no income, toss in the interferon and menopause for good measure), but I felt so much better literally overnight. The doctor told me that I’d feel better than I had in a long, long time so I guess it’s the Suboxone. Even if it is chemically created, I’ll enjoy it………..it just feels so good to feel good! Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of SHARON CROSBYSent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:07 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: Re: Suboxone Dorothy, you SOUND like a new person. You sound very positive and upbeat. GOOD for you and Having a job will just increase the good feeling. NOTHIN' keeps you down for long and that's a real bonus in your life. Sharon in NW Washington Jackie

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That is amazing,, maybe I need to look at this,, I tired of being tired,, and in pain,, Dorothy wrote: Well, I don’t know if it’s the absence of pain meds or the Suboxone, but it made a huge difference in how I feel. I know I’ve described it as a veil being lifted off of me. I don’t think I realized how I was being effected the last 2 years by the medication. And the fact that my pain is being controlled AND being just 2 shots away from the finish line………lots of good things happening right now for me. I know I’ve been deeply depressed & with good reasons (a failed marriage, loss of my job, illness for 2

years, dependent on pain meds, no income, toss in the interferon and menopause for good measure), but I felt so much better literally overnight. The doctor told me that I’d feel better than I had in a long, long time so I guess it’s the Suboxone. Even if it is chemically created, I’ll enjoy it………..it just feels so good to feel good! Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of SHARON CROSBYSent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:07 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: Re: Suboxone Dorothy, you SOUND like a new person. You sound very positive and upbeat. GOOD for you and Having a job will just increase the good feeling. NOTHIN' keeps you down for long and that's a real bonus in your life. Sharon in NW Washington Jackie

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AMEN ladies,, AMEN! joyceann silva wrote: i feel the sme way, iam totally honest here

with you guys, not benefit for anyone not being honestDorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I may not be totally honest everywhere in my life, but this is a place where we all can be honest. If you’re not, you’re just fooling yourself. It’s the only way to get healthy. Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of JanetSent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:24 AMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: Re: Suboxone Your honesty impresses me Lady bug. You are one in a million. You applied for a job?? You go girl. I am so proud of you. I know that you will do just fine. Love Janet Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Jackie

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AMEN ladies,, AMEN! joyceann silva wrote: i feel the sme way, iam totally honest here

with you guys, not benefit for anyone not being honestDorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I may not be totally honest everywhere in my life, but this is a place where we all can be honest. If you’re not, you’re just fooling yourself. It’s the only way to get healthy. Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of JanetSent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:24 AMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: Re: Suboxone Your honesty impresses me Lady bug. You are one in a million. You applied for a job?? You go girl. I am so proud of you. I know that you will do just fine. Love Janet Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Jackie

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AMEN ladies,, AMEN! joyceann silva wrote: i feel the sme way, iam totally honest here

with you guys, not benefit for anyone not being honestDorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I may not be totally honest everywhere in my life, but this is a place where we all can be honest. If you’re not, you’re just fooling yourself. It’s the only way to get healthy. Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of JanetSent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:24 AMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: Re: Suboxone Your honesty impresses me Lady bug. You are one in a million. You applied for a job?? You go girl. I am so proud of you. I know that you will do just fine. Love Janet Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Jackie

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That is just awesome honey,, is this medication approved for long term use? Is it a pain med or what? Im tired of my increasing pain and not wanting to up my morphine dose,, Im wondering if it might be helpful for me... Dorothy wrote: Good morning, all. I just wanted to take a minute and let everyone know that today is my third day on Suboxone and I haven’t taken a pain pill since Tuesday night. I was prescribed 3 half pills of Suboxone a day, but

I’m only doing 2 half’s – one every 12 hours. And while I was prescribed 3 other meds to help me through the transition, I haven’t taken a single one of any of them J I sleep like a rock and feel terrific during the day. Although Suboxone is not technically an anti-depressant, I can only describe the feeling as having a blanket of depression lifted off me. I feel as though I woke up to another person, someone I used to be before I became ill. I shopped yesterday and bought healthy foods and I’m eating 3 meals now. This

obviously has a positive impact on all aspects of my life. I have been able to control the pain from my RA and neuropathy just fine with the Suboxone (it does have pain relief properties) along with ibuprofen. If I can move in the morning and want to get out of bed and LIVE, then this is a major success! I used the brand new Pilates machine yesterday and plan to get back into a regular exercise regime. I don’t recall any discussion here about RX pain addiction, but if there’s

anyone out there who is suffering from this, please listen to me and check it out. There are a limited number of physicians who can prescribe Suboxone and there’s sure to be one in your area. And please don’t misunderstand…..this med is not making me high. Although I almost feel high, it’s the absence of the bad feelings that is creating the high. I did like that initial feeling of energy I got with the pain pills, but that was short-lived and the craving for more pills came back way too quick. The constant ups and downs were awful. With Suboxone, there is consistency. I know that this is highly addictive and of course, that concerns me. But right now, it is allowing me to get my head straight. Tonight is shot #23 so next Friday is the end of my tx (6 more days of Riba after that) so I want that behind me (YEAH!) Then I will address the issue of pain and how to deal with whether I stay on Suboxone for a while or quit that as well. And I’m hoping that once off tx, I’ll feel physically better every day and that will help me with this as well. I am going to start actively looking for a job now as I feel more confident. Before, I had no clue

how I would feel from day to day and depending on how many pills were left in the bottle. An added plus is that Suboxone does not show in drug screening tests! While I was on prescribed meds, I really wasn’t looking forward to having to explain to a prospective employer why my pre-employment drug screening came back positive for opiates…….now, I don’t need to worry about that. Happy Friday to everyone!! The sun is shining here on Long Island and I’m looking forward to a nice day J Dorothy More Info for Anyone Interested: http://www.suboxone.com/ Jackie

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Jackie, take a look at the website http://www.suboxone.com/ as it has a lot of

information. It’s really to treat addiction problems, not pain;

however, since it is an opiod, it has some pain relieving properties. And

when you take this, you can’t take other opiates so keep that in mind –

it probably isn’t appropriate for your situation.

In my case, it seems to be the right

fit. I can’t say enough good things about it. But again, this

is early on and I don’t know if the positive results will be long lasting

and I’m also concerned about the dependency issue here.

Since I have been able to get by with 2

doses a day instead of the prescribed 3 doses a day plus not use any of the

other meds he prescribed, I’m wondering if I shouldn’t just make

this a really short-term thing. Once I’m past the pain med

dependency (they say it takes 2 to 4 days), maybe I should just cut the

Suboxone to one dose per day and then none. I’m going to discuss it

with the doctor when I see him on Monday. He did say that if I was

feeling well, he might cut me down right away – of course, he assumed I

would be taking the 3 doses. Many people take this as they do methadone

maintenance…for years.

And this is not an inexpensive

treatment. This doctor charged me $250 for the initial visit and then $70

per week until stabilized; then $90 for a monthly visit. The meds are

covered under my insurance with a low copay, but the doctor is out-of-network so

subject to a $500 deductible. Another doctor I spoke with charged $400

for the initial visit!! Unfortunately, my doctor IS an in-network doctor

for me if this was considered a medical claim……….but they

consider this Mental Health/Substance Abuse and that is handled

differently. Of course, the @sshole doctor that prescribed all the pain

meds for 2 years is in-network so it was inexpensive for me to get hooked on

the pills!! But when I need to fix the problem, that’s not covered……LOL

Oh, and the information also indicates

that it can increase liver enzyme levels! Another reason not to remain on

this for too long.

I know you have a lot of pain and I hope

that this information might be useful in some way.

Dorothy

From:

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On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008

6:37 PM

To:

Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Suboxone

That is just awesome honey,, is this medication

approved for long term use? Is it a pain med or what? Im tired of my

increasing pain and not wanting to up my morphine dose,, Im wondering if it

might be helpful for me...

Dorothy

<dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

Good morning, all.

I just wanted to take a minute and let everyone know

that today is my third day on Suboxone and I haven’t taken a pain pill

since Tuesday night.

I was prescribed 3 half pills of Suboxone a day, but I’m

only doing 2 half’s – one every 12 hours. And while I was

prescribed 3 other meds to help me through the transition, I haven’t

taken a single one of any of them J

I sleep like a rock and feel terrific during the

day. Although Suboxone is not technically an anti-depressant, I can only

describe the feeling as having a blanket of depression lifted off me. I

feel as though I woke up to another person, someone I used to be before I

became ill. I shopped yesterday and bought healthy foods and I’m

eating 3 meals now. This obviously has a positive impact on all aspects

of my life.

I have been able to control the pain from my RA and

neuropathy just fine with the Suboxone (it does have pain relief properties)

along with ibuprofen. If I can move in the morning and want to get out of

bed and LIVE, then this is a major success! I used the brand new Pilates

machine yesterday and plan to get back into a regular exercise regime.

I don’t recall any discussion here about RX

pain addiction, but if there’s anyone out there who is suffering from

this, please listen to me and check it out. There are a limited number of

physicians who can prescribe Suboxone and there’s sure to be one in your

area.

And please don’t misunderstand…..this

med is not making me high. Although I almost feel high, it’s the

absence of the bad feelings that is creating the high. I did like that

initial feeling of energy I got with the pain pills, but that was short-lived

and the craving for more pills came back way too quick. The constant ups

and downs were awful. With Suboxone, there is consistency.

I know that this is highly addictive and of course,

that concerns me. But right now, it is allowing me to get my head

straight. Tonight is shot #23 so next Friday is the end of my tx (6 more

days of Riba after that) so I want that behind me (YEAH!) Then I will

address the issue of pain and how to deal with whether I stay on Suboxone for a

while or quit that as well. And I’m hoping that once off tx,

I’ll feel physically better every day and that will help me with this as

well.

I am going to start actively looking for a job now as

I feel more confident. Before, I had no clue how I would feel from day to

day and depending on how many pills were left in the bottle. An added

plus is that Suboxone does not show in drug screening tests! While I was

on prescribed meds, I really wasn’t looking forward to having to explain

to a prospective employer why my pre-employment drug screening came back

positive for opiates…….now, I don’t need to worry about that.

Happy Friday to everyone!! The sun is shining

here on Long Island and I’m

looking forward to a nice day J

Dorothy

More Info for Anyone Interested:

http://www.suboxone.com/

Jackie

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And when I don’t feel well, I don’t

know if it’s my neuropathy, HCV, my rheumatoid arthritis, the interferon,

the ribavirin, the pain meds, other meds, just being under the weather, etc.

etc. It’s a roll of the dice to figure it all out!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

Behalf Of joyceann silva

Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008

6:17 PM

To:

Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

Re: Suboxone

you know

aint that the truth, when we feel one way for so long were not sure if it is

the way we are suppose to feel or notm, cause we are use to feeling a certain

way, i have hypothyroidism for many many years like 22, so when the hep dr

asked me are you tired etc, this was a while ago, isaid well ya but i allways

am, and i allways have a headache and my legs allways cramp i just thought that

was me being normal turned out i need a higher dose of thyroid medication, and

then you start to ques tourself the mind does love to mess with us,,,,,

Dorothy

<dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

Thank you. I just hope I

didn’t jump from the frying pan into the fire! I just joined a

group of Suboxone users so I’m curious to hear what others have to say.

And now that I’m off the pain

meds, maybe the pain hasn’t really been all that bad. How would I

know? I’ve been taking pills for over 2 years!

Dorothy

From:

Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ]

On Behalf Of m human

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And when I don’t feel well, I don’t

know if it’s my neuropathy, HCV, my rheumatoid arthritis, the interferon,

the ribavirin, the pain meds, other meds, just being under the weather, etc.

etc. It’s a roll of the dice to figure it all out!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

Behalf Of joyceann silva

Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008

6:17 PM

To:

Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

Re: Suboxone

you know

aint that the truth, when we feel one way for so long were not sure if it is

the way we are suppose to feel or notm, cause we are use to feeling a certain

way, i have hypothyroidism for many many years like 22, so when the hep dr

asked me are you tired etc, this was a while ago, isaid well ya but i allways

am, and i allways have a headache and my legs allways cramp i just thought that

was me being normal turned out i need a higher dose of thyroid medication, and

then you start to ques tourself the mind does love to mess with us,,,,,

Dorothy

<dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

Thank you. I just hope I

didn’t jump from the frying pan into the fire! I just joined a

group of Suboxone users so I’m curious to hear what others have to say.

And now that I’m off the pain

meds, maybe the pain hasn’t really been all that bad. How would I

know? I’ve been taking pills for over 2 years!

Dorothy

From:

Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ]

On Behalf Of m human

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