Re: Fw: Ovarian cysts caused by hypothyroidism

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Hi, Kim

I found out 3 years ago that i have Hypo but before all that for years my husband and i tryed to have a child and one day i went to see the Dr and she told me i had nothing to worry about well i was haveing hot flashes an she told me that it did not run in the family and not to worry then one day i demanded a blood test to check for menopuse well i get the call from the nurse and said you are right you do have early menapouse. so just 3 years a go i went to another Dr and he was the one that told me that i have hypo. i was seeing that i was gaining a little weight and my face look puffy and my eyes but had problems with my hair geting dry and braking off felt like a stack of hay. and it was thinning. then i found this new Dr becouse the other Dr was not doing any thing with my testosterone biging a little high and my dhea and i did a saliva test and it showed that my

late night levels where a little high so this new Dr i see now changed my bi/est and progesterone to lower my testosterone and dhea's so my adrenals wont be stress out. so i just got back from geting my blood work done to see if i need a increese in my med.

I still noties a little hair stranids of hair in the shower and sink and i feel like i have this presserin my sinusis and the top my my head feels like i have a headach and i think i have presser in the neck my shoulder feels like they are sore and i feels tired. i know i need to get a ultra soud done andother blood work.

I starting to think mybe i have a little inflamashion . i read that meg3'6' and 9 should be good . any way i don't think i have any cysts on my overys but would like to get that check out too.

I am sorry that you have to go threw all that. and thanks for emailing back. you take care.

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 9:26:10 AMSubject: Re: Fw: Ovarian cysts caused by hypothyroidism

Hi Joan,

Not sure if you mean the symptoms of the cysts or the symptoms of the hypothyroidism, so I hope I'm not giving too much/too little info. I just found out I am hypo a few months ago. I have MS, so some of the symptoms can be similar to/consistent with hypo symptoms. I can't recall any specific cyst symptoms from 2000 except pain and thinking I might have been pregnant. In 2010, I had abnormal bleeding (6 weeks straight without stopping). They found the cyst after the DNC to stop the uterine bleeding.

I have always (since I can remember) had brittle nails and hair, dry skin, low body temp, depression, recurring sinus and upper respiratory infections, and strange sensations in my throat. Despite a desire to do so, I was never able to be very athletic; I never had the physical stamina it took. I was diagnosed with MS in 1994. My primary difficulties were fatigue, vertigo, cognition/processing delays, and sensitivity to heat. This was the situation when I had the first cyst removed.

By 2010, I was noticing a further decrease in my energy level and my mental acuity. The neuros attributed it to age at first. My OB attributed it to perimenopause. After the DNC, I still wasn't feeling well. They found the cyst. After removing the ovary because of multiple cysts and the increased risk of cancer, I still didn't feel myself. I was exhausted, had no zest or drive, became sensitive to cold (very unusual for me) and having chills, mood swings, more forgetful, more irritable. Blood work revealed very low normal thyroid and my neuro said I should try a little synthetic T4. I also found some other issues and decided to address those first. I got a bit better, but have not really seen improvement with this last dip in my energy and mental processing until time released T3.

Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kim

I found out 3 years ago that i have Hypo but before all that for years my husband and i tryed to have a child and one day i went to see the Dr and she told me i had nothing to worry about well i was haveing hot flashes an she told me that it did not run in the family and not to worry then one day i demanded a blood test to check for menopuse well i get the call from the nurse and said you are right you do have early menapouse. so just 3 years a go i went to another Dr and he was the one that told me that i have hypo. i was seeing that i was gaining a little weight and my face look puffy and my eyes but had problems with my hair geting dry and braking off felt like a stack of hay. and it was thinning. then i found this new Dr becouse the other Dr was not doing any thing with my testosterone biging a little high and my dhea and i did a saliva test and it showed that my

late night levels where a little high so this new Dr i see now changed my bi/est and progesterone to lower my testosterone and dhea's so my adrenals wont be stress out. so i just got back from geting my blood work done to see if i need a increese in my med.

I still noties a little hair stranids of hair in the shower and sink and i feel like i have this presserin my sinusis and the top my my head feels like i have a headach and i think i have presser in the neck my shoulder feels like they are sore and i feels tired. i know i need to get a ultra soud done andother blood work.

I starting to think mybe i have a little inflamashion . i read that meg3'6' and 9 should be good . any way i don't think i have any cysts on my overys but would like to get that check out too.

I am sorry that you have to go threw all that. and thanks for emailing back. you take care.

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 9:26:10 AMSubject: Re: Fw: Ovarian cysts caused by hypothyroidism

Hi Joan,

Not sure if you mean the symptoms of the cysts or the symptoms of the hypothyroidism, so I hope I'm not giving too much/too little info. I just found out I am hypo a few months ago. I have MS, so some of the symptoms can be similar to/consistent with hypo symptoms. I can't recall any specific cyst symptoms from 2000 except pain and thinking I might have been pregnant. In 2010, I had abnormal bleeding (6 weeks straight without stopping). They found the cyst after the DNC to stop the uterine bleeding.

I have always (since I can remember) had brittle nails and hair, dry skin, low body temp, depression, recurring sinus and upper respiratory infections, and strange sensations in my throat. Despite a desire to do so, I was never able to be very athletic; I never had the physical stamina it took. I was diagnosed with MS in 1994. My primary difficulties were fatigue, vertigo, cognition/processing delays, and sensitivity to heat. This was the situation when I had the first cyst removed.

By 2010, I was noticing a further decrease in my energy level and my mental acuity. The neuros attributed it to age at first. My OB attributed it to perimenopause. After the DNC, I still wasn't feeling well. They found the cyst. After removing the ovary because of multiple cysts and the increased risk of cancer, I still didn't feel myself. I was exhausted, had no zest or drive, became sensitive to cold (very unusual for me) and having chills, mood swings, more forgetful, more irritable. Blood work revealed very low normal thyroid and my neuro said I should try a little synthetic T4. I also found some other issues and decided to address those first. I got a bit better, but have not really seen improvement with this last dip in my energy and mental processing until time released T3.

Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Kim

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I have recently lost 50lbs, and still have 20lbs to go. Because of my weight

loss, I have had to reduce from 4 grains of Armour to 3 grains because I was

having minor hyper symptoms, and my bloodwork showed I was hyper. The reduction

from 4 grains to 3 made me hypo again - very quickly, even though I titrated

slowly down. I have increased to 3-1/2 grains to meet in the middle and see if

that will help, but not without noticing that after 2 years of being on therapy,

I can tell I have ovarian cysts again. I don't know if it's from my hormones

adjusting to the weight loss, or because I was hypo, or both. Very interesting

read!

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> Multiple Ovarian Cysts as

> a Major Symptom of Hypothyroidism

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> The case I describe below is of importance to women with polycystic ovaries.

If

> they have evidence, such as a high TSH, that conventional clinicians accept as

> evidence of hypothyroidism, they may fair well. But the TSH is not a valid

gauge

> of a woman's tissue thyroid status. Because of this, she may fair best by

> adopting self-directed care. At any rate, for women with ovarian cysts, this

> case is one of extreme importance.

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> In 2008, doctors at the gynecology department in Gunma, Japan reported the

case

> of a 21-year-old women with primary hypothyroidism. Her doctor referred her to

> the gynecology department because she had  abdominal pain and her abdomen

was

> distended up to the level of her navel.

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> At the gynecology clinic she underwent an abdominal ultrasound and CT scan.

> These imaging procedures showed multiple cysts on both her right and her left

> ovary.

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> The woman's cholesterol level and liver function were increased. She also had

a

> high level of the muscle enzyme (creatine phosphokinase) that's often high in

> hypothyroidism. Blood testing also showed that the woman had primary

> hypothyroidism from autoimmune thyroiditis.

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> It is noteworthy that the young woman's ovarian cysts completely disappeared

> soon after she began thyroid hormone therapy. Other researchers have reported

> girls with primary hypothyroidism whose main health problems were ovarian

cysts

> or precocious puberty. But this appears to be the first case in which a young

> adult female had ovarian cysts that resulted from autoimmune-induced

> hypothyroidism.

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> The researchers cautioned clinicians: " To avoid inadvertent surgery to remove

an

> ovarian tumor, it is essential that a patient with multiple ovarian cysts and

> hypothyroidism be properly managed, as the simple replacement of a thyroid

> hormone could resolve the ovarian cysts. " [1]

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> Reference:

> 1. Kubota, K., Itho, M., Kishi, H., et al.: Primary hypothyroidism presenting

as

> multiple ovarian cysts in an adult woman: a case report. Gynecol. Endocrinol.,

> 24(10):586-589, 2008. Does Taking Desiccated Thyroid Cause or Worsen

Autoimmune

> Thyroid Disease?

>  Fairly often, someone asks me whether taking desiccated thyroid is likely

cause

> or worsen autoimmune thyroid disease. A few of these people have become

> concerned because of a rabbit study they've heard about.

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> I've read summaries of this study, and typically the summaries state: " Rabbits

> developed autoimmune thyroid disease after being injected with thyroid extract

> from other rabbits. "

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> After reading these summaries, some people understandably asked, " The rabbit

> developed autoimmune thyroid disease after being exposed to thyroid extract.

> Doesn't this mean that if I expose myself to thyroid extract in desiccated

> thyroid, it can cause me autoimmune thyroid disease in me? Some people who

> already had high thyroglobulin or peroxidase antibodies asked, isn't

desiccated

> thyroid likely to stoked up these antibodies in me?

> In the studies these people mention, the researchers did inject rabbits with

> extracts of rabbit thyroid glands. And the injections led to anti-thyroid

> antibodies in the injected rabbits and damage to their thyroid glands.

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> However, the injections also included saline (salt) and another substance

called

> " Freund's adjuvant. " [4,p.1295] The importance of this latter ingredient is

that

> it's a powerful booster of the immune response to antigenic stimuli.

Laboratory

> researchers use it to augment antibody responses to antigens that might

> otherwise provoke only faint antibody reactions. The adjuvant is severely

toxic.

> Researchers are banned from using it in humans, and they use it sparingly in

> laboratory animals.

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> Because the rabbit thyroid extract was mixed with saline and Freund's

adjuvant,

> I'm curious as to whether the injected thyroid extracts alone would have

> provoked antibodies against thyroglobulin. Maybe it would not have.

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> However, there's also another important consideration. I've talked with people

> from the companies that manufacture desiccated thyroid products, and they've

> told me that they don't measure the amount of the proteins thyroglobulin and

> peroxidase in the thyroid powder they use in their products.

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> Nonetheless, the important point is that the thyroglobulin and peroxidase in

> desiccated thyroid are proteins. Ingesting these proteins may not increase

> antibody activity for this reason-protein-digesting enzymes in the GI tract

are

> likely to decompose the proteins into amino acids. And although the amino

acids

> may then absorb into the body, they aren't likely to recompose themselves into

> proteins that function as antigens to stoke up antibody reactions against

them. 

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> I know of only one study in which researchers actually tested the hypothesis

> that desiccated thyroid might affect patients' autoimmune thyroid disease. The

> researchers switched patients with the disease from synthetic T4 to desiccated

> thyroid for a year. Other patients continued to use synthetic T4. At the end

of

> the year, the two groups of patients did not differ in measures of autoimmune

> thyroid disease; desiccated thyroid had not worsened any immune measures.[5]

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> To answer this oft asked question, then, ingesting desiccated thyroid is not

> likely to cause or worsen autoimmune thyroiditis.

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> References

> 1. Witebsky, E. and Rose, N.R.: Studies on organ specificity. IV. Production

of

> rabbit thyroid antibodies in the rabbit. J. Immunol., 76, 408, 1956.

> 2. Witesky,k E., Rose, N.R., Terplan, K., et al.: Chronic thyroiditis and

> autoimmunization J. Am. Med. Assn., 164:1439-1447, 1957.

> 3. Rose, N.R.: Experimental autoimmune thyroiditis. Citation Classic, Feb.11,

> No.6, 1991.

> 4. Weetman, A.P.: Thyroid autoimmune disease. In Werner's The Thyroid: A

> Fundamental and Clinical Text, 6th edition. Edited by L.E. Braverman and

> R.D.Utiger, Philadelphia, J.B. Lippincott Co., 1991, pp.1295-1310.

> 5. Lee, S., Scherberg, N., and DeGroot, L.J.: Induction of oral tolerance in

> human autoimmune thyroid disease. Thyroid, 8(3):229-234, 1998.

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