Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Hello Anne, You sure are in the right place. Welcome. This List has a bunch of lovely, sharing people. Regards, . (Mother: 5 y.o. ASD & almost 8 y.o. Aspergers) New Member--Anne Hello,My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 year old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When he was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was too inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had been stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past year I put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was still the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why I joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place?Anne________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Welcome : Some of us are lucky in ariving at an earlier diagnosis (Charlie is 7 and was diagnosed at 5as having PDD-NOS or AS). He is doing quite well at the moment. But, my 23 year old (ADD) was not diagnosed until he was a senior in high school (at a challenging private school!!) So, better late than never. My 23-year-old is in college and doing well. This is a good group and you will find a great deal of support. Betty Jo Marshall New Member--Anne Hello,My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 year old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When he was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was too inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had been stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past year I put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was still the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why I joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place?Anne________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Welcome : Some of us are lucky in ariving at an earlier diagnosis (Charlie is 7 and was diagnosed at 5as having PDD-NOS or AS). He is doing quite well at the moment. But, my 23 year old (ADD) was not diagnosed until he was a senior in high school (at a challenging private school!!) So, better late than never. My 23-year-old is in college and doing well. This is a good group and you will find a great deal of support. Betty Jo Marshall New Member--Anne Hello,My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 year old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When he was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was too inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had been stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past year I put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was still the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why I joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place?Anne________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 : I really like the font you are using in the email. What is it? BJ Marshall New Member--Anne Hello,My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 year old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When he was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was too inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had been stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past year I put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was still the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why I joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place?Anne________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 : I really like the font you are using in the email. What is it? BJ Marshall New Member--Anne Hello,My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 year old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When he was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was too inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had been stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past year I put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was still the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why I joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place?Anne________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Betty Jo I would love to hear some of the behaviors that made you have concern for your children, especially the 23 yr old. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: autism-aspergersegroups >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 22:08:45 -0400 > >Welcome : > > Some of us are lucky in ariving at an earlier diagnosis (Charlie is 7 >and was diagnosed at 5as having PDD-NOS or AS). He is doing quite well at >the moment. But, my 23 year old (ADD) was not diagnosed until he was a >senior in high school (at a challenging private school!!) So, better late >than never. My 23-year-old is in college and doing well. This is a good >group and you will find a great deal of support. > >Betty Jo Marshall > > > New Member--Anne > > > > > > Hello, > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a >16 year > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. >When he > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he >was too > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no >way! > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is >why I > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings >with > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right >place? > Anne > >________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Betty Jo I would love to hear some of the behaviors that made you have concern for your children, especially the 23 yr old. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: autism-aspergersegroups >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 22:08:45 -0400 > >Welcome : > > Some of us are lucky in ariving at an earlier diagnosis (Charlie is 7 >and was diagnosed at 5as having PDD-NOS or AS). He is doing quite well at >the moment. But, my 23 year old (ADD) was not diagnosed until he was a >senior in high school (at a challenging private school!!) So, better late >than never. My 23-year-old is in college and doing well. This is a good >group and you will find a great deal of support. > >Betty Jo Marshall > > > New Member--Anne > > > > > > Hello, > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a >16 year > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. >When he > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he >was too > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no >way! > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is >why I > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings >with > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right >place? > Anne > >________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Betty Jo I would love to hear some of the behaviors that made you have concern for your children, especially the 23 yr old. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: autism-aspergersegroups >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 22:08:45 -0400 > >Welcome : > > Some of us are lucky in ariving at an earlier diagnosis (Charlie is 7 >and was diagnosed at 5as having PDD-NOS or AS). He is doing quite well at >the moment. But, my 23 year old (ADD) was not diagnosed until he was a >senior in high school (at a challenging private school!!) So, better late >than never. My 23-year-old is in college and doing well. This is a good >group and you will find a great deal of support. > >Betty Jo Marshall > > > New Member--Anne > > > > > > Hello, > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a >16 year > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. >When he > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he >was too > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no >way! > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is >why I > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings >with > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right >place? > Anne > >________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Thanks for the welcome, . There is a lot of terminology I do not know like ASD. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: <autism-aspergersegroups> >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:59:20 +1000 > >Hello Anne, > >You sure are in the right place. Welcome. This List has a bunch of lovely, >sharing people. > >Regards, >. (Mother: 5 y.o. ASD & almost 8 y.o. Aspergers) > New Member--Anne > > > > > > Hello, > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 >year > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When >he > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was >too > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why >I > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place? > Anne > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Thanks for the welcome, . There is a lot of terminology I do not know like ASD. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: <autism-aspergersegroups> >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:59:20 +1000 > >Hello Anne, > >You sure are in the right place. Welcome. This List has a bunch of lovely, >sharing people. > >Regards, >. (Mother: 5 y.o. ASD & almost 8 y.o. Aspergers) > New Member--Anne > > > > > > Hello, > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 >year > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When >he > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was >too > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why >I > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place? > Anne > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Thanks for the welcome, . There is a lot of terminology I do not know like ASD. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: <autism-aspergersegroups> >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:59:20 +1000 > >Hello Anne, > >You sure are in the right place. Welcome. This List has a bunch of lovely, >sharing people. > >Regards, >. (Mother: 5 y.o. ASD & almost 8 y.o. Aspergers) > New Member--Anne > > > > > > Hello, > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 >year > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When >he > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was >too > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way! > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why >I > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place? > Anne > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Hello Anne, Sorry, just so used to using these. ASD = Autism Spectrum Disorder I actually live in Australia, so things are a little different here. If you would like, we could meet in our chat room. I've got some time. . New Member--Anne>>>>>> Hello,> My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 >year> old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When >he> was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was >too> inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been> stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I> homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I> put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still> the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way!> Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why >I> joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with> their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place?> Anne> ________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Hello Anne, Sorry, just so used to using these. ASD = Autism Spectrum Disorder I actually live in Australia, so things are a little different here. If you would like, we could meet in our chat room. I've got some time. . New Member--Anne>>>>>> Hello,> My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a 16 >year> old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. When >he> was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he was >too> inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been> stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I> homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I> put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still> the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no way!> Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is why >I> joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings with> their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right place?> Anne> ________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Ok, I haven't done that yet so be patient with me. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: <autism-aspergersegroups> >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 12:27:56 +1000 > >Hello Anne, > >Sorry, just so used to using these. ASD = Autism Spectrum Disorder >I actually live in Australia, so things are a little different here. >If you would like, we could meet in our chat room. I've got some time. > >. > New Member--Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a >16 > >year > > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. >When > >he > > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he >was > >too > > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he >had > >been > > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then >I > > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past > >year I > > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there >was > >still > > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no >way! > > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is >why > >I > > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings >with > > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right >place? > > Anne > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Ok, I haven't done that yet so be patient with me. ANne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: <autism-aspergersegroups> >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 12:27:56 +1000 > >Hello Anne, > >Sorry, just so used to using these. ASD = Autism Spectrum Disorder >I actually live in Australia, so things are a little different here. >If you would like, we could meet in our chat room. I've got some time. > >. > New Member--Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a >16 > >year > > old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. >When > >he > > was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he >was > >too > > inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he >had > >been > > stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then >I > > homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past > >year I > > put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there >was > >still > > the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no >way! > > Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is >why > >I > > joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings >with > > their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right >place? > > Anne > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Dear Anne: My 22-year-old (almost 23) son is quite charming and attractive. He was the same in kindergarten and first grade, and his teachers always loved him In fact, his 1st grade teacher used to call me and ask if she could take him home with her! But, this did not necessarily work to his advantage. Matt always "got by" in school. In small class sizes such as Montessori, he made A's. In larger settings, he would run the full specturm from A to D-. But he always got by, and alwys charmed everyone around him. I was a young mother in his case (20) and strongly believed that Ritalin was overprescribed, etc. Plus, no one ever suggested that he had any type of problem. As he got into high school, the problems were more apparent. He was messy, his hand-writing was bad, he would do his homework but forget to take it to school, etc. etc. It became apparent when Matt was around 17 that his 5 year old brother could accomplish a list of 5 things to do, but Matt would get lost on item 1!! Some of his teacher felt he was "lazy" and should do better.he was impulsive, would lie for no reason, etc. etc. (Most of the things you can read in a description of ADD or ADHD). When he was a senior (at a tough private school), Matt told me he needed to talk to me one day. He said, "Mom, there is something wrong with me. Even when I try really really hard to concentrate, I lose it after a minute or two." He showed me his textbook from a class that day. He had inked in every single "o" on the page. I made an appointment for him with the doctor. After testing Matt and surveying his teachers and my husband and I, the pediatrician diagnosed Matt with "mild ADD." (He is not noticeably hyperactive.). His grades improved dramatically as soon as he started taking Ritalin. He was also much happier. He has been in college for 3 years, has a full-time summer job currently, frequently babysits his two younger brothers, and coaches 9 and 10 year olds in classic level soccer. His teams have won the state championship the past 2 years. He is still definietly not a morning person (grouchy!!), and is self-monitored with the medication. AS we do with our 7-year-old, Matt only takes the medication for school/academics. Lots of exercise is definitely important to him also. He gets depressed when he cannot play soccer or other sports. I hope this helps. Best regards, Betty Jo Marshall New Member--Anne>>>>>> Hello,> My name is Anne and I have been lurking for the last week. I have a >16 year> old son that I have been concerned about and protected for years. >When he> was little I was afraid he was MR but found out soon enough that he >was too> inteligent for that. When he was around 8 yrs old I found that he had >been> stalked on the way to school for months and had never told me. Then I> homeschooled him (and several sibs) for the next 6 years. THis past >year I> put him in a small christian school and he is doing well but there was >still> the nagging thought. What is wrong with him? Is he autistic?...no >way!> Thats when I read about aspergers and it is becoming clear. That is >why I> joined this group. I would love to hear about other mom's findings >with> their children and I would love to share mine. Am I in the right >place?> Anne> >________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------->>----------------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2000 Report Share Posted May 6, 2000 Betty Jo, Thanks for sharing about your son. I also have one with attention problems. He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past year and will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit anxious. I will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases where it is a life changer. I have also seen it way overused. Anne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2000 Report Share Posted May 6, 2000 Anne wrote .. I also have one with attention problems. > He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past year and >will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit anxious. I >will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases where it is >a life changer. I have also seen it way overused. Ritalin use is a minefield, even from a teacher's perspective. Some times it is necessary or the child cannot be constructive. Other times it's not effective . Yet other times the problem is the teacher and class environment. Since when is a young child supposed to be confined to a chair or forced to listen to boring lectures? Ric ASD/ADD and ex-teacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 Ric: You are absolutely right! As an early childhood professional (and child advocate), I believe that a lack of developmentally appropriate practice (such as putting preschoolers and kindergarteners in chairs all day, and demanding that they be "quiet") has a terrible impact on our young children. Unfortunately, such teacher-behavior is widespread. Even more unfortunate, I believe that many parents encourage it or even demand it -- these are the parents who want academics pushed down to the infant and toddler level, but have little or no understanding of the way that the young child constructs his/her own knowledge of the world by experiencing it sensorially. After all, play is the work of the young child. But, many parents and many educators seem to have lost sight of these truths. Some of us are not financially able to home-school, so we must make the best of what is out there. As I mentioned before, in my home area I have found the American Montessori (which is not as rigid as the European version) to be the most developmentally appropriate environment for children from 18 months through age 5. Unfortunately, my Charlie was having a wonderful (unmedicated) time there, but it was apparent to me that he was never going to venture into true academics (such as say reading) as long as he could have 100% say over his "work." He stayed in the Montessori enviornment from 18 months through age 5. It was wonderful for him socially. He is an a class now with a very good and understanding public school first grade teacher, who will loop up to 2nd with his class next year. He loves school and is very very happy. He has many friends. But he does need his morning Ritalin on school days, or his mind wanders so much that he cannot do his work. I am also on a soap box against too much homework for young children. Way way too much. Maybe other 1st graders can do the stuff in 20 minutes, but my (unmedicated by homework time) son takes 2 to 3 hours sometimes. It is way overboard in my opinion. Does anyone agree and face this same nightly horror?? Betty Jo Marshall Re: New Member--Anne Anne wrote. I also have one with attention problems.> He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past year and>will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit anxious. I>will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases where it is>a life changer. I have also seen it way overused.Ritalin use is a minefield, even from a teacher's perspective. Some timesit is necessary or the child cannot be constructive. Other times it's noteffective . Yet other times the problem is the teacher and classenvironment. Since when is a young child supposed to be confined to a chairor forced to listen to boring lectures?RicASD/ADD and ex-teacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 Betty Jo wrote >Ric: > > You are absolutely right! As an early childhood professional (and >child advocate), I believe that a lack of developmentally appropriate >practice (such as putting preschoolers and kindergarteners in chairs all >day, and demanding that they be " quiet " ) has a terrible impact on our >young children. Unfortunately, such teacher-behavior is widespread. and the least capable of them are " teaching " the disadvantaged and handicapped. >Even more unfortunate, I believe that many parents encourage it or even demand it -- This has become provincial policy where i live. Give the parents a voice....they want desks in rows and hassle teachers who don't, usually the best teacher in the school......i get to hear about this every day from my frustrated teacher wife. The actual mechanics of the system are so complex that there will never be a good solution. > He loves school and is very very happy. He has many friends. But he does >need his morning Ritalin on school days, or his mind wanders so much that >he cannot do his work. You do what works. > I am also on a soap box against too much homework for young children. >Way way too much. Maybe other 1st graders can do the stuff in 20 minutes, >but my (unmedicated by homework time) son takes 2 to 3 hours sometimes. It >is way overboard in my opinion. Does anyone agree and face this same >nightly horror?? I think any homework in primary grades is evil. A simple task OK. No more than a minute or two. Now parents could read to children.....In any case more than 20 minutes we stop. Send a note to teacher if needed. Complain to principal, trustee. And projects?......a lazy teacher. Best Ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 I had this same homework problem with my AS son. It took him much longer than the teacher's estimated time. After that I homeschooled for 6 years. I found the best way he could learn was reading out loud to him. I seldom had the time to read everything to him! Anne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: autism-aspergersegroups >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 22:59:40 -0400 > >Ric: > > You are absolutely right! As an early childhood professional (and >child advocate), I believe that a lack of developmentally appropriate >practice (such as putting preschoolers and kindergarteners in chairs all >day, and demanding that they be " quiet " ) has a terrible impact on our young >children. Unfortunately, such teacher-behavior is widespread. Even more >unfortunate, I believe that many parents encourage it or even demand it -- >these are the parents who want academics pushed down to the infant and >toddler level, but have little or no understanding of the way that the >young child constructs his/her own knowledge of the world by experiencing >it sensorially. After all, play is the work of the young child. > > But, many parents and many educators seem to have lost sight of these >truths. Some of us are not financially able to home-school, so we must make >the best of what is out there. As I mentioned before, in my home area I >have found the American Montessori (which is not as rigid as the European >version) to be the most developmentally appropriate environment for >children from 18 months through age 5. > > Unfortunately, my Charlie was having a wonderful (unmedicated) time >there, but it was apparent to me that he was never going to venture into >true academics (such as say reading) as long as he could have 100% say over >his " work. " He stayed in the Montessori enviornment from 18 months through >age 5. It was wonderful for him socially. He is an a class now with a very >good and understanding public school first grade teacher, who will loop up >to 2nd with his class next year. He loves school and is very very happy. He >has many friends. But he does need his morning Ritalin on school days, or >his mind wanders so much that he cannot do his work. > > I am also on a soap box against too much homework for young children. >Way way too much. Maybe other 1st graders can do the stuff in 20 minutes, >but my (unmedicated by homework time) son takes 2 to 3 hours sometimes. It >is way overboard in my opinion. Does anyone agree and face this same >nightly horror?? > >Betty Jo Marshall > Re: New Member--Anne > > > > Anne wrote > > . I also have one with attention problems. > > He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past year >and > >will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit >anxious. I > >will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases where >it is > >a life changer. I have also seen it way overused. > > > Ritalin use is a minefield, even from a teacher's perspective. Some >times > it is necessary or the child cannot be constructive. Other times it's >not > effective . Yet other times the problem is the teacher and class > environment. Since when is a young child supposed to be confined to a >chair > or forced to listen to boring lectures? > > Ric > ASD/ADD and ex-teacher > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 I had this same homework problem with my AS son. It took him much longer than the teacher's estimated time. After that I homeschooled for 6 years. I found the best way he could learn was reading out loud to him. I seldom had the time to read everything to him! Anne > >Reply-To: autism-aspergersegroups >To: autism-aspergersegroups >Subject: Re: New Member--Anne >Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 22:59:40 -0400 > >Ric: > > You are absolutely right! As an early childhood professional (and >child advocate), I believe that a lack of developmentally appropriate >practice (such as putting preschoolers and kindergarteners in chairs all >day, and demanding that they be " quiet " ) has a terrible impact on our young >children. Unfortunately, such teacher-behavior is widespread. Even more >unfortunate, I believe that many parents encourage it or even demand it -- >these are the parents who want academics pushed down to the infant and >toddler level, but have little or no understanding of the way that the >young child constructs his/her own knowledge of the world by experiencing >it sensorially. After all, play is the work of the young child. > > But, many parents and many educators seem to have lost sight of these >truths. Some of us are not financially able to home-school, so we must make >the best of what is out there. As I mentioned before, in my home area I >have found the American Montessori (which is not as rigid as the European >version) to be the most developmentally appropriate environment for >children from 18 months through age 5. > > Unfortunately, my Charlie was having a wonderful (unmedicated) time >there, but it was apparent to me that he was never going to venture into >true academics (such as say reading) as long as he could have 100% say over >his " work. " He stayed in the Montessori enviornment from 18 months through >age 5. It was wonderful for him socially. He is an a class now with a very >good and understanding public school first grade teacher, who will loop up >to 2nd with his class next year. He loves school and is very very happy. He >has many friends. But he does need his morning Ritalin on school days, or >his mind wanders so much that he cannot do his work. > > I am also on a soap box against too much homework for young children. >Way way too much. Maybe other 1st graders can do the stuff in 20 minutes, >but my (unmedicated by homework time) son takes 2 to 3 hours sometimes. It >is way overboard in my opinion. Does anyone agree and face this same >nightly horror?? > >Betty Jo Marshall > Re: New Member--Anne > > > > Anne wrote > > . I also have one with attention problems. > > He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past year >and > >will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit >anxious. I > >will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases where >it is > >a life changer. I have also seen it way overused. > > > Ritalin use is a minefield, even from a teacher's perspective. Some >times > it is necessary or the child cannot be constructive. Other times it's >not > effective . Yet other times the problem is the teacher and class > environment. Since when is a young child supposed to be confined to a >chair > or forced to listen to boring lectures? > > Ric > ASD/ADD and ex-teacher > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 Homework has been a problem in our house I have solved the problem for the minute. I told his teacher if homework was taking him to long we would not finish it, we would do the rest the next day or not at all. He is in the first grade how important can home work be. Most days we can get homework done in under a hour. I put a stop to it when we have been going on for two hours. At the two hour mark he can handle no more he is mental and physical done. If I push him past this point he will have a meltdown and the rest of the day is shot. We also do homework as soon as he gets home from school. is still in the school mind set. I am sure if we waited till after dinner it would never get done. Michele On Sat, 06 May 2000 22:59:40 -0400 Betty Jo Marshall writes: > Ric: > > You are absolutely right! As an early childhood professional > (and child advocate), I believe that a lack of developmentally > appropriate practice (such as putting preschoolers and > kindergarteners in chairs all day, and demanding that they be > " quiet " ) has a terrible impact on our young children. Unfortunately, > such teacher-behavior is widespread. Even more unfortunate, I > believe that many parents encourage it or even demand it -- these > are the parents who want academics pushed down to the infant and > toddler level, but have little or no understanding of the way that > the young child constructs his/her own knowledge of the world by > experiencing it sensorially. After all, play is the work of the > young child. > > But, many parents and many educators seem to have lost sight of > these truths. Some of us are not financially able to home-school, so > we must make the best of what is out there. As I mentioned before, > in my home area I have found the American Montessori (which is not > as rigid as the European version) to be the most developmentally > appropriate environment for children from 18 months through age 5. > > Unfortunately, my Charlie was having a wonderful (unmedicated) > time there, but it was apparent to me that he was never going to > venture into true academics (such as say reading) as long as he > could have 100% say over his " work. " He stayed in the Montessori > enviornment from 18 months through age 5. It was wonderful for him > socially. He is an a class now with a very good and understanding > public school first grade teacher, who will loop up to 2nd with his > class next year. He loves school and is very very happy. He has many > friends. But he does need his morning Ritalin on school days, or his > mind wanders so much that he cannot do his work. > > I am also on a soap box against too much homework for young > children. Way way too much. Maybe other 1st graders can do the stuff > in 20 minutes, but my (unmedicated by homework time) son takes 2 to > 3 hours sometimes. It is way overboard in my opinion. Does anyone > agree and face this same nightly horror?? > > Betty Jo Marshall > Re: New Member--Anne > > > > Anne wrote > > . I also have one with attention problems. > > He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past > year and > >will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit > anxious. I > >will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases > where it is > >a life changer. I have also seen it way overused. > > > Ritalin use is a minefield, even from a teacher's perspective. > Some times > it is necessary or the child cannot be constructive. Other times > it's not > effective . Yet other times the problem is the teacher and class > environment. Since when is a young child supposed to be confined > to a chair > or forced to listen to boring lectures? > > Ric > ASD/ADD and ex-teacher > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 Michele, this isn't about you but rather the exteme laziness that some teachers exhibit. From where i sit it has reached plague proportions. Two hours..EEEEK.... Grade one is numbers and introduction to reading. 5 minutes. 20 absolute tops. the child HAS to play............ You are on the right track but one hour is still too much. Maybe in grade four .....occasionally. I don't see why there has to be home work at all in primary grades. When does a child get to be a child? Even junior kindergarden is more about babysitting than learning. What fun , interactive assignments are being sent home that could warrant one hour? Nothing i've ever heard of. My wife is a primary specialist and i have never seen her do anything that didn't require her presence. Bad bad teacher. Sorry if i come across too strongly here. This is a sore issue for me. I once taught (grade 5) and found i couldn't manage it (turned out to be ADD/ASD) so i quit. Bad teachers in the system make me angry. Like i said, you are on the right track especially with your son. Ric >Homework has been a problem in our house I have solved the problem for >the minute. I told his teacher if homework was taking him to long we >would not finish it, we would do the rest the next day or not at all. He >is in the first grade how important can home work be. Most days we can >get homework done in under a hour. I put a stop to it when we have been >going on for two hours. At the two hour mark he can handle no more he is >mental and physical done. If I push him past this point he will have a >meltdown and the rest of the day is shot. We also do homework as soon as >he gets home from school. is still in the school mind set. I am >sure if we waited till after dinner it would never get done. > Michele > >On Sat, 06 May 2000 22:59:40 -0400 Betty Jo Marshall > writes: >> Ric: >> >> You are absolutely right! As an early childhood professional >> (and child advocate), I believe that a lack of developmentally >> appropriate practice (such as putting preschoolers and >> kindergarteners in chairs all day, and demanding that they be >> " quiet " ) has a terrible impact on our young children. Unfortunately, >> such teacher-behavior is widespread. Even more unfortunate, I >> believe that many parents encourage it or even demand it -- these >> are the parents who want academics pushed down to the infant and >> toddler level, but have little or no understanding of the way that >> the young child constructs his/her own knowledge of the world by >> experiencing it sensorially. After all, play is the work of the >> young child. >> >> But, many parents and many educators seem to have lost sight of >> these truths. Some of us are not financially able to home-school, so >> we must make the best of what is out there. As I mentioned before, >> in my home area I have found the American Montessori (which is not >> as rigid as the European version) to be the most developmentally >> appropriate environment for children from 18 months through age 5. >> >> Unfortunately, my Charlie was having a wonderful (unmedicated) >> time there, but it was apparent to me that he was never going to >> venture into true academics (such as say reading) as long as he >> could have 100% say over his " work. " He stayed in the Montessori >> enviornment from 18 months through age 5. It was wonderful for him >> socially. He is an a class now with a very good and understanding >> public school first grade teacher, who will loop up to 2nd with his >> class next year. He loves school and is very very happy. He has many >> friends. But he does need his morning Ritalin on school days, or his >> mind wanders so much that he cannot do his work. >> >> I am also on a soap box against too much homework for young >> children. Way way too much. Maybe other 1st graders can do the stuff >> in 20 minutes, but my (unmedicated by homework time) son takes 2 to >> 3 hours sometimes. It is way overboard in my opinion. Does anyone >> agree and face this same nightly horror?? >> >> Betty Jo Marshall >> Re: New Member--Anne >> >> >> >> Anne wrote >> >> . I also have one with attention problems. >> > He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past >> year and >> >will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit >> anxious. I >> >will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases >> where it is >> >a life changer. I have also seen it way overused. >> >> >> Ritalin use is a minefield, even from a teacher's perspective. >> Some times >> it is necessary or the child cannot be constructive. Other times >> it's not >> effective . Yet other times the problem is the teacher and class >> environment. Since when is a young child supposed to be confined >> to a chair >> or forced to listen to boring lectures? >> >> Ric >> ASD/ADD and ex-teacher >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2000 Report Share Posted May 8, 2000 Michele, this isn't about you but rather the exteme laziness that some teachers exhibit. From where i sit it has reached plague proportions. Two hours..EEEEK.... Grade one is numbers and introduction to reading. 5 minutes. 20 absolute tops. the child HAS to play............ You are on the right track but one hour is still too much. Maybe in grade four .....occasionally. I don't see why there has to be home work at all in primary grades. When does a child get to be a child? Even junior kindergarden is more about babysitting than learning. What fun , interactive assignments are being sent home that could warrant one hour? Nothing i've ever heard of. My wife is a primary specialist and i have never seen her do anything that didn't require her presence. Bad bad teacher. Sorry if i come across too strongly here. This is a sore issue for me. I once taught (grade 5) and found i couldn't manage it (turned out to be ADD/ASD) so i quit. Bad teachers in the system make me angry. Like i said, you are on the right track especially with your son. Ric >Homework has been a problem in our house I have solved the problem for >the minute. I told his teacher if homework was taking him to long we >would not finish it, we would do the rest the next day or not at all. He >is in the first grade how important can home work be. Most days we can >get homework done in under a hour. I put a stop to it when we have been >going on for two hours. At the two hour mark he can handle no more he is >mental and physical done. If I push him past this point he will have a >meltdown and the rest of the day is shot. We also do homework as soon as >he gets home from school. is still in the school mind set. I am >sure if we waited till after dinner it would never get done. > Michele > >On Sat, 06 May 2000 22:59:40 -0400 Betty Jo Marshall > writes: >> Ric: >> >> You are absolutely right! As an early childhood professional >> (and child advocate), I believe that a lack of developmentally >> appropriate practice (such as putting preschoolers and >> kindergarteners in chairs all day, and demanding that they be >> " quiet " ) has a terrible impact on our young children. Unfortunately, >> such teacher-behavior is widespread. Even more unfortunate, I >> believe that many parents encourage it or even demand it -- these >> are the parents who want academics pushed down to the infant and >> toddler level, but have little or no understanding of the way that >> the young child constructs his/her own knowledge of the world by >> experiencing it sensorially. After all, play is the work of the >> young child. >> >> But, many parents and many educators seem to have lost sight of >> these truths. Some of us are not financially able to home-school, so >> we must make the best of what is out there. As I mentioned before, >> in my home area I have found the American Montessori (which is not >> as rigid as the European version) to be the most developmentally >> appropriate environment for children from 18 months through age 5. >> >> Unfortunately, my Charlie was having a wonderful (unmedicated) >> time there, but it was apparent to me that he was never going to >> venture into true academics (such as say reading) as long as he >> could have 100% say over his " work. " He stayed in the Montessori >> enviornment from 18 months through age 5. It was wonderful for him >> socially. He is an a class now with a very good and understanding >> public school first grade teacher, who will loop up to 2nd with his >> class next year. He loves school and is very very happy. He has many >> friends. But he does need his morning Ritalin on school days, or his >> mind wanders so much that he cannot do his work. >> >> I am also on a soap box against too much homework for young >> children. Way way too much. Maybe other 1st graders can do the stuff >> in 20 minutes, but my (unmedicated by homework time) son takes 2 to >> 3 hours sometimes. It is way overboard in my opinion. Does anyone >> agree and face this same nightly horror?? >> >> Betty Jo Marshall >> Re: New Member--Anne >> >> >> >> Anne wrote >> >> . I also have one with attention problems. >> > He is a very sweet boy (adopted). I homeschooled him this past >> year and >> >will put him in school next year so you can see where I am a bit >> anxious. I >> >will try to keep an open mind about ritalin. I have seen cases >> where it is >> >a life changer. I have also seen it way overused. >> >> >> Ritalin use is a minefield, even from a teacher's perspective. >> Some times >> it is necessary or the child cannot be constructive. Other times >> it's not >> effective . Yet other times the problem is the teacher and class >> environment. Since when is a young child supposed to be confined >> to a chair >> or forced to listen to boring lectures? >> >> Ric >> ASD/ADD and ex-teacher >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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