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Dear Sondra,

I found your response to my question very insightful and helpful. If you

don't mind, I'd like to forward it to my daughter's teacher because what you

explained how you felt about an 1/2 hour after taking Buspar might be what

is experiencing. We are reducing her daily dosage to 15 mg. to see if

this helps.

Thanks again,

Re: Re: Buspar --lynn

> from the type of self injurious behaviors she might be to have much

> pressure of headache/sinus pressure and to be to dig at inner nose areas

she

> might be to think she can be to relieve the pressure as she might be to be

> communicating I to be to have a sinus pressure by this digging and

pounding,

> can be medications related or allergy to something or just awareness to

the

> sensations. With Buspar I to be to say it to be to begin to work for me in

a

> week or so but most often is best felt about 3 weeks. Also she may be to

> struggle with the medications if given too soon in the AM best to let her

> eat breakfast then to be to get dressed and hair combed , teeth brushed

then

> the medications. I to share it might be to feel as though blood sugars are

> dropping for about half hour or so or a flighty like feelings, usually

with

> in the 30-40 minutes of taking it so she may need a snack(if she can be to

> have a soda if she like this to calm her tummy such as ginger ale or seven

> up to help this feeling and needs to be to have some down time for her

body

> to regulate the symptoms of the medications for about half hour. These are

> things I to be to find with me that to helped. Once my body was use to it

I

> was to be of okay. I to be to find when I to be on it regularly I to be to

> function best within social realms and yes much need to be on it for a few

> weeks before to speak at any speaking event.

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also to remember if you daughter to be hyper sensitive to things she

might need only a 1/4 to 1/2 of what typically others would be to take as

autism can be tricky with medications for this.

You may use this .

Sondra

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Hi again, Sondra,

I'm not sure if I told you that after speaking with my daughter's

neurologist yesterday and telling him all the behaviors we have seen

increase since she was on the Buspar, that he reduced her daily dosage to 15

mgs instead of the 20-30 originally prescribed. I did what you said

today...let her do her normal morning routine and eat and gave her a 5 mg

dose of Buspar before she went to school. I even sent in an extra snack so

the teacher could give it to her when she got to school. Even before she

took her morning dose, she started with an obsessive-compulsive motor

activity....she had to keep running back to the doorway from where she left,

tap her foot, and then move on. However, it got pretty intense and I had a

really hard time getting her out the door to get on the bus. She got very

upset, started hitting her nose with her palm, then stuck her fingers up her

nose (but it didn't bleed this time) and then hit the window with her hand.

I have noticed that within 45 minutes of taking the Buspar, she gets

very emotional, then starts the squeezing of her hands to hurt them, banging

her nose, putting finger up her nose to make it bleed. Then after this

intense time, she'll get very silly, giddy, and happy.

At this point, I'm not sure if these are bad side effects that mean she

can't tolerate this medication or side effects that will go away with time.

Re: Re: Buspar --Sondra

> also to remember if you daughter to be hyper sensitive to things she

> might need only a 1/4 to 1/2 of what typically others would be to take as

> autism can be tricky with medications for this.

> You may use this .

> Sondra

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the odd things you to share is she to be to escalate before taking the

medications so it might not be medication related and could be sinus like

infection or allergy like things causing the nose to be itch, tingly and

feel as though things to be crawling around in it I to be to get this way

when allergy to things begin to escalate for me.

The moody things within the 45 minutes of the medications is maybe her

adjusting to it and may need more time since they are to be to reduced it

wait another 3 weeks and if this does not work ask the doctor hims/her

thinking on trying tenex with her.or low doses of paxil, I to be to find

this combinations tend to help some of the kids I to be to work for but not

all. Remember though they usually need low doses of things. and as they

balance and are doing well do not let them increase the meds. If she is

balanced and improving, more meds can create a back fire to her progress and

her body might be to reject the medications altogether. This is from my

experience and from many others parents sharing to me on medications.

Have you got new pet, or bought something new to the home that she could be

reacting as allergy too, new detergent, new carpet, anything you can recall?

Sondra

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Hi Sondra,

I think you may have misunderstood what I told you about . Before

the Buspar, she was grabbing, pinching, squeezing and sometimes biting her

teachers which would come out of the blue without any demands being placed

on her. Since the Buspar, she has only lightly grabbed her teachers,BUT, she

has been self-abusing herself with the nose issues and the

obsessive-compulsive stuff have increased dramatically. Today, at the end of

the day, she became aggressive and scratched one of her teachers as he was

trying to redirect her away from her compulsive walk to get ready for the

bus.

I do agree with you about starting out slow and at a reduced rate and

have decided to try 5 mg twice a day for the next three days. Luckily, we

are getting into the Easter break, so I can better observe her during this

time.

Thanks again,

Re: Re: Buspar --Sondra

> the odd things you to share is she to be to escalate before taking

the

> medications so it might not be medication related and could be sinus like

> infection or allergy like things causing the nose to be itch, tingly and

> feel as though things to be crawling around in it I to be to get this way

> when allergy to things begin to escalate for me.

> The moody things within the 45 minutes of the medications is maybe her

> adjusting to it and may need more time since they are to be to reduced it

> wait another 3 weeks and if this does not work ask the doctor hims/her

> thinking on trying tenex with her.or low doses of paxil, I to be to find

> this combinations tend to help some of the kids I to be to work for but

not

> all. Remember though they usually need low doses of things. and as they

> balance and are doing well do not let them increase the meds. If she is

> balanced and improving, more meds can create a back fire to her progress

and

> her body might be to reject the medications altogether. This is from my

> experience and from many others parents sharing to me on medications.

> Have you got new pet, or bought something new to the home that she could

be

> reacting as allergy too, new detergent, new carpet, anything you can

recall?

> Sondra

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Hi Sondra,

I think you may have misunderstood what I told you about . Before

the Buspar, she was grabbing, pinching, squeezing and sometimes biting her

teachers which would come out of the blue without any demands being placed

on her. Since the Buspar, she has only lightly grabbed her teachers,BUT, she

has been self-abusing herself with the nose issues and the

obsessive-compulsive stuff have increased dramatically. Today, at the end of

the day, she became aggressive and scratched one of her teachers as he was

trying to redirect her away from her compulsive walk to get ready for the

bus.

I do agree with you about starting out slow and at a reduced rate and

have decided to try 5 mg twice a day for the next three days. Luckily, we

are getting into the Easter break, so I can better observe her during this

time.

Thanks again,

Re: Re: Buspar --Sondra

> the odd things you to share is she to be to escalate before taking

the

> medications so it might not be medication related and could be sinus like

> infection or allergy like things causing the nose to be itch, tingly and

> feel as though things to be crawling around in it I to be to get this way

> when allergy to things begin to escalate for me.

> The moody things within the 45 minutes of the medications is maybe her

> adjusting to it and may need more time since they are to be to reduced it

> wait another 3 weeks and if this does not work ask the doctor hims/her

> thinking on trying tenex with her.or low doses of paxil, I to be to find

> this combinations tend to help some of the kids I to be to work for but

not

> all. Remember though they usually need low doses of things. and as they

> balance and are doing well do not let them increase the meds. If she is

> balanced and improving, more meds can create a back fire to her progress

and

> her body might be to reject the medications altogether. This is from my

> experience and from many others parents sharing to me on medications.

> Have you got new pet, or bought something new to the home that she could

be

> reacting as allergy too, new detergent, new carpet, anything you can

recall?

> Sondra

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Hi Sondra,

I think you may have misunderstood what I told you about . Before

the Buspar, she was grabbing, pinching, squeezing and sometimes biting her

teachers which would come out of the blue without any demands being placed

on her. Since the Buspar, she has only lightly grabbed her teachers,BUT, she

has been self-abusing herself with the nose issues and the

obsessive-compulsive stuff have increased dramatically. Today, at the end of

the day, she became aggressive and scratched one of her teachers as he was

trying to redirect her away from her compulsive walk to get ready for the

bus.

I do agree with you about starting out slow and at a reduced rate and

have decided to try 5 mg twice a day for the next three days. Luckily, we

are getting into the Easter break, so I can better observe her during this

time.

Thanks again,

Re: Re: Buspar --Sondra

> the odd things you to share is she to be to escalate before taking

the

> medications so it might not be medication related and could be sinus like

> infection or allergy like things causing the nose to be itch, tingly and

> feel as though things to be crawling around in it I to be to get this way

> when allergy to things begin to escalate for me.

> The moody things within the 45 minutes of the medications is maybe her

> adjusting to it and may need more time since they are to be to reduced it

> wait another 3 weeks and if this does not work ask the doctor hims/her

> thinking on trying tenex with her.or low doses of paxil, I to be to find

> this combinations tend to help some of the kids I to be to work for but

not

> all. Remember though they usually need low doses of things. and as they

> balance and are doing well do not let them increase the meds. If she is

> balanced and improving, more meds can create a back fire to her progress

and

> her body might be to reject the medications altogether. This is from my

> experience and from many others parents sharing to me on medications.

> Have you got new pet, or bought something new to the home that she could

be

> reacting as allergy too, new detergent, new carpet, anything you can

recall?

> Sondra

>

>

>

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you to be saying that you child used to be much more aggressive to

others when off the buspar and now on the buspar is less aggressive to

others but more ritualistic self abusive issues are not present that are

just emerged or more pronounced. Although the nose digging one is new and

since start of the buspar. Did she to be to ever do this before the buspar

or only after the start of it. If she to be to have this before the start of

the buspar but has become more pronounced since taking buspar it might just

be to mean she is adjusting and is so hyper sensitive that the flighty

feeling it gives causes her anxiety in the beginning of the absorption of

the medications into the system and she to have no way to communicate it

except through behavior.

Other things can be in play that is not even medication related, she may be

to have a change in things at school that is frustrating her and she again

is not able to share, if she is limited in words or expressions she might

just be so frustrated and is lashing out more. How old is she to be? I to be

to forget this.

I do be to know that often we to be to cycle into rapid swings of moods and

even I to be to have no answers why I to be to do this and is hard on all in

the family but I to be to have told my children's often enough that this is

a part of Mommies autism that she to wishes did not exist and that it has

nothing to do with them , and that I to not be angry with them or anything

they to be to have done . They respect my space when I to be cycling. The

little girl I to support in school also does this and it is hard as everyone

to always think there has to be a cause to be to get her so upset and

sometimes in true there is no cause just as in my self. We just wake up in

moods and are sour in moods much of day for nothing are we angry over but we

feel very irritable maybe lack of deep sleep patterns, maybe a food

sensitivity but in true will never for me really know. If it is days of this

then best to give her down time and space and reduce the expectations and

let her give what she can without stressing her. She might be to need a FBA

to see if there to be triggers and or issues creating the aggressions with

in her setting. If this medications to not work might ask the doctor of the

Paxil and tenex.

Sondra

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