Re: Re: good starting dose?/update

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It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? Her FT4 is midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.But what if they bare normal?Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???Lynn Sent from my iPad

Thanks.I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to see if he will take her, But I heard he isn't taking new patients.Thanks for the information.LynnSent from my iPad

You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.

Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground about thyroid.

>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated TSH.> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is> > Experiencing.> > Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!> > We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour. > > What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a> > Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us are> normal!) J> > > > Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, I am> not sure how to go about it with her.> > Thanks for any information.> > Lynn>

[Guest guest]

There's a new book that someone recently recommended to me called Why Do I Still

Have Thyroid Symptoms? When My Lab Tests are Normal by Datis Kharrazian. He

talks about 6 different patterns of hypothyroidism, the way to tell them apart,

and the different treatment they each need. High TSH and normal FT4 are

symptoms of what he calls " Primary Hypothyroidism. " You might want to get a

copy of his book to learn more.

Good luck.

Sally A. Schreiber

________________________________

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups on behalf of Lynn's Comcast

Sent: Mon 1/3/2011 3:51 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update

It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!

And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? Her

FT4 is

midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that possible,

I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.

We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.

But what if they bare normal?

Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???

Lynn

Sent from my iPad

Thanks.

I see Dr. Pucillo. This " other " Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to see if

he will take her,

But I heard he isn't taking new patients.

Thanks for the information.

Lynn

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, " texasthyroid "

texasthyroid@...> wrote:

You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.

Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground about

thyroid.

>

> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated TSH.

> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is

>

> Experiencing.

>

> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!

>

> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.

>

> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice

> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a

>

> Increase increment that is " normal " ? (Because I do know how none of us are

> normal!) J

>

>

>

> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, I am

> not sure how to go about it with her.

>

> Thanks for any information.

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I will read that.

Lynn

Sent from my iPad

> There's a new book that someone recently recommended to me called Why Do I

Still Have Thyroid Symptoms? When My Lab Tests are Normal by Datis Kharrazian.

He talks about 6 different patterns of hypothyroidism, the way to tell them

apart, and the different treatment they each need. High TSH and normal FT4 are

symptoms of what he calls " Primary Hypothyroidism. " You might want to get a

copy of his book to learn more.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Sally A. Schreiber

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> <winmail.dat>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, how about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because

you have kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot

and am on the road to stability.

What frustrates me is that my " teen " isn't showing many hypo. signs, and ignores

my

advise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's

prescribed!

Lynn

Sent from my iPad

> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was

> diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she " got it in range " -

> she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only

> when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid

> numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to get

> better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I had

> wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).

>

> Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health

> issues!!! LOLO

>

> Marti

>

>

> Re: Re: good starting dose?/update

>

>

> It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!

> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem?

> Her FT4 is

> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that

> possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.

> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.

> But what if they bare normal?

> Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???

> Lynn

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> Thanks.

>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This " other " Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to

>> see if he will take her,

>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.

>> Thanks for the information.

>> Lynn

>>

>> Sent from my iPad

>>

>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, " texasthyroid "

>> wrote:

>>

>>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.

>>>

>>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground

>>> about thyroid.

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated

>>>> TSH.

>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is

>>>>

>>>> Experiencing.

>>>>

>>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!

>>>>

>>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.

>>>>

>>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice

>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a

>>>>

>>>> Increase increment that is " normal " ? (Because I do know how none of us

>>>> are

>>>> normal!) J

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning,

>>>> I am

>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for any information.

>>>>

>>>> Lynn

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was hoping maybe she could see him since she's going to Texas Tech in Lubbock.Again, even IF she would go.Next week we should hear about the antibodies and free T3 and TSH and free t4.She had the TSH run on 6/23/2010 3.140 range 0.360-3.740Then reran 12/20/2010. TSH 4.880 same rangeFree T4 1.09 range 0.76-1.46The Dr seemed real reluctant to treat her saying that he has seen elevated TSH with the FT4 within range. That it doesn't mean there is a problem. I told him I didn't want her to end up like me in such bad condition from being untreated.I guess we'll wait for the antibodies test. Plus I will read about primary hypothyroidism.Thanks, LynnSent from my iPad

is not taking any new thyroid patients, except for local family practice patients who see him for pretty much everything.

If you would like to post her actual numbers together with the reference ranges and the exact name of each test, we may be able to offer some suggestions.

If you are able to travel, you might consider Manzanero in Austin or Spurlock in Dallas, although Spurlock does not like to give Armour to anyone with antibodies.

As for Dr. Zubairie, what the nurse told you over the phone and what the doc says in person may be two different things. I would make an appointment.

> >> >> >> > I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated TSH.> >> > I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is> >> > > >> > Experiencing.> >> > > >> > Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!> >> > > >> > We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour. > >> > > >> > What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice> >> > daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a> >> > > >> > Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us are> >> > normal!) J> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, I am> >> > not sure how to go about it with her.> >> > > >> > Thanks for any information.> >> > > >> > Lynn

[Guest guest]

Thanks I will give my daughter the information. LynnSent from my iPad

He would probably see her as a primary care patient. I would suggest you call the office and talk to Sharon. But he is no longer taking new patients for just thyroid.

> > > >> >> > > >> > I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated TSH.> > > >> > I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is> > > >> > > > > >> > Experiencing.> > > >> > > > > >> > Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!> > > >> > > > > >> > We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour. > > > >> > > > > >> > What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice> > > >> > daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a> > > >> > > > > >> > Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us are> > > >> > normal!) J> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, I am> > > >> > not sure how to go about it with her.> > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks for any information.> > > >> > > > > >> > Lynn> > > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks I will give my daughter the information. LynnSent from my iPad

He would probably see her as a primary care patient. I would suggest you call the office and talk to Sharon. But he is no longer taking new patients for just thyroid.

> > > >> >> > > >> > I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated TSH.> > > >> > I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is> > > >> > > > > >> > Experiencing.> > > >> > > > > >> > Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!> > > >> > > > > >> > We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour. > > > >> > > > > >> > What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice> > > >> > daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a> > > >> > > > > >> > Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us are> > > >> > normal!) J> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, I am> > > >> > not sure how to go about it with her.> > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks for any information.> > > >> > > > > >> > Lynn> > > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing. This will be a good thing for her to read. I wonder if there is sometype of support group for young adults? It seems they are reluctant to listen to their parents, even in dire straits.Thanks again, LynnSent from my iPad

I did that. I was 14, and the only symptom I was aware of was two-to-three weeks long, very heavy periods once every six months or so. This doesn’t mean I didn’t have other symptoms, but only that I didn’t recognize them for what they were. Having my periods come so far apart actually seemed like a blessing. So I was non-compliant, my records were lost during a move, and for the next 22 years, my life was intermittently hell on earth. After being diagnosed with MS, I somehow, some way (miraculously) remembered the teenage thyroid episode, fired the doctor who misdiagnosed me, saw another doctor with the demand that my thyroid be tested (he thought the MS diagnosis had made me a little crazy and that I was in denial) and got myself on thyroid meds. My own daughter was diagnosed hypo when she was around 12, but shortly thereafter, she decided she wanted to live with her dad. No more thyroid meds. Her stepmother instead persuaded a doctor to prescribe Depakote and Paxil and ultimately ended up trying to have her committed. I “rescued†her, but I was quite hypo at the time (for me, severe hypothyroidism causes a state that is essentially dementia), and it just didn’t occur to me to focus on the thyroid issue with all the other things we were trying to fix. It is only recently that she has been rediagnosed and put back on thyroid hormone, but that has made an incredible difference for her. Even so, as with me, her time off thyroid meds had consequences. I have never talked about my thyroid illness in the terms above—because it’s painful (and embarrassing in the details)—but if it’s possible that my experience and that of my daughter can help someone else, then it’s worth it. You might want to ask your daughter to join one of the online support groups or else you could pick out some posts or stories from some of the many online thyroid sites so that she comprehends the gravity of the situation she’s in. Especially for teenagers, thyroid has a profound effect on emotional stability, and if you think she’s impossible now (i.e., the natural state of the teenager), I can promise you that without appropriate treatment, she will be off-the-wall. I wish you the very best in this. Good luck. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 19:17 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Yeah, how about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on the road to stability. What frustrates me is that my "teen" isn't showing many hypo. signs, and ignores myadvise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's prescribed!Lynn Sent from my iPad> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was > diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she "got it in range" - > she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only > when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid > numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to get > better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I had > wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).> > Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health > issues!!! LOLO> > Marti> > > Re: Re: good starting dose?/update> > > It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? > Her FT4 is> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that > possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.> But what if they bare normal?> Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???> Lynn> > Sent from my iPad> > > >> >> >> Thanks.>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to >> see if he will take her,>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.>> Thanks for the information.>> Lynn>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, "texasthyroid" >> wrote:>> >>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.>>> >>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground >>> about thyroid.>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated >>>> TSH.>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is>>>> >>>> Experiencing.>>>> >>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!>>>> >>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.>>>> >>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a>>>> >>>> Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us >>>> are>>>> normal!) J>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, >>>> I am>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.>>>> >>>> Thanks for any information.>>>> >>>> Lynn>>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing. This will be a good thing for her to read. I wonder if there is sometype of support group for young adults? It seems they are reluctant to listen to their parents, even in dire straits.Thanks again, LynnSent from my iPad

I did that. I was 14, and the only symptom I was aware of was two-to-three weeks long, very heavy periods once every six months or so. This doesn’t mean I didn’t have other symptoms, but only that I didn’t recognize them for what they were. Having my periods come so far apart actually seemed like a blessing. So I was non-compliant, my records were lost during a move, and for the next 22 years, my life was intermittently hell on earth. After being diagnosed with MS, I somehow, some way (miraculously) remembered the teenage thyroid episode, fired the doctor who misdiagnosed me, saw another doctor with the demand that my thyroid be tested (he thought the MS diagnosis had made me a little crazy and that I was in denial) and got myself on thyroid meds. My own daughter was diagnosed hypo when she was around 12, but shortly thereafter, she decided she wanted to live with her dad. No more thyroid meds. Her stepmother instead persuaded a doctor to prescribe Depakote and Paxil and ultimately ended up trying to have her committed. I “rescued†her, but I was quite hypo at the time (for me, severe hypothyroidism causes a state that is essentially dementia), and it just didn’t occur to me to focus on the thyroid issue with all the other things we were trying to fix. It is only recently that she has been rediagnosed and put back on thyroid hormone, but that has made an incredible difference for her. Even so, as with me, her time off thyroid meds had consequences. I have never talked about my thyroid illness in the terms above—because it’s painful (and embarrassing in the details)—but if it’s possible that my experience and that of my daughter can help someone else, then it’s worth it. You might want to ask your daughter to join one of the online support groups or else you could pick out some posts or stories from some of the many online thyroid sites so that she comprehends the gravity of the situation she’s in. Especially for teenagers, thyroid has a profound effect on emotional stability, and if you think she’s impossible now (i.e., the natural state of the teenager), I can promise you that without appropriate treatment, she will be off-the-wall. I wish you the very best in this. Good luck. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 19:17 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Yeah, how about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on the road to stability. What frustrates me is that my "teen" isn't showing many hypo. signs, and ignores myadvise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's prescribed!Lynn Sent from my iPad> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was > diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she "got it in range" - > she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only > when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid > numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to get > better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I had > wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).> > Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health > issues!!! LOLO> > Marti> > > Re: Re: good starting dose?/update> > > It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? > Her FT4 is> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that > possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.> But what if they bare normal?> Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???> Lynn> > Sent from my iPad> > > >> >> >> Thanks.>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to >> see if he will take her,>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.>> Thanks for the information.>> Lynn>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, "texasthyroid" >> wrote:>> >>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.>>> >>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground >>> about thyroid.>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated >>>> TSH.>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is>>>> >>>> Experiencing.>>>> >>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!>>>> >>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.>>>> >>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a>>>> >>>> Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us >>>> are>>>> normal!) J>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, >>>> I am>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.>>>> >>>> Thanks for any information.>>>> >>>> Lynn>>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing. This will be a good thing for her to read. I wonder if there is sometype of support group for young adults? It seems they are reluctant to listen to their parents, even in dire straits.Thanks again, LynnSent from my iPad

I did that. I was 14, and the only symptom I was aware of was two-to-three weeks long, very heavy periods once every six months or so. This doesn’t mean I didn’t have other symptoms, but only that I didn’t recognize them for what they were. Having my periods come so far apart actually seemed like a blessing. So I was non-compliant, my records were lost during a move, and for the next 22 years, my life was intermittently hell on earth. After being diagnosed with MS, I somehow, some way (miraculously) remembered the teenage thyroid episode, fired the doctor who misdiagnosed me, saw another doctor with the demand that my thyroid be tested (he thought the MS diagnosis had made me a little crazy and that I was in denial) and got myself on thyroid meds. My own daughter was diagnosed hypo when she was around 12, but shortly thereafter, she decided she wanted to live with her dad. No more thyroid meds. Her stepmother instead persuaded a doctor to prescribe Depakote and Paxil and ultimately ended up trying to have her committed. I “rescued†her, but I was quite hypo at the time (for me, severe hypothyroidism causes a state that is essentially dementia), and it just didn’t occur to me to focus on the thyroid issue with all the other things we were trying to fix. It is only recently that she has been rediagnosed and put back on thyroid hormone, but that has made an incredible difference for her. Even so, as with me, her time off thyroid meds had consequences. I have never talked about my thyroid illness in the terms above—because it’s painful (and embarrassing in the details)—but if it’s possible that my experience and that of my daughter can help someone else, then it’s worth it. You might want to ask your daughter to join one of the online support groups or else you could pick out some posts or stories from some of the many online thyroid sites so that she comprehends the gravity of the situation she’s in. Especially for teenagers, thyroid has a profound effect on emotional stability, and if you think she’s impossible now (i.e., the natural state of the teenager), I can promise you that without appropriate treatment, she will be off-the-wall. I wish you the very best in this. Good luck. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 19:17 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Yeah, how about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on the road to stability. What frustrates me is that my "teen" isn't showing many hypo. signs, and ignores myadvise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's prescribed!Lynn Sent from my iPad> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was > diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she "got it in range" - > she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only > when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid > numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to get > better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I had > wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).> > Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health > issues!!! LOLO> > Marti> > > Re: Re: good starting dose?/update> > > It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? > Her FT4 is> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that > possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.> But what if they bare normal?> Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???> Lynn> > Sent from my iPad> > > >> >> >> Thanks.>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to >> see if he will take her,>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.>> Thanks for the information.>> Lynn>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, "texasthyroid" >> wrote:>> >>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.>>> >>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground >>> about thyroid.>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated >>>> TSH.>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is>>>> >>>> Experiencing.>>>> >>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!>>>> >>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.>>>> >>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a>>>> >>>> Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us >>>> are>>>> normal!) J>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, >>>> I am>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.>>>> >>>> Thanks for any information.>>>> >>>> Lynn>>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

Maybe they have to suffer like we did to totally understand the consequences?Don't they understand, Mom really does know best? :)LynnSent from my iPad

Been there, doing that! That is

totally my 21 yo daughter but she has symptoms and doesn’t take her

thyroid and other meds consistently. It’s beyond frustrating!

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On

Behalf Of Lynn's

Comcast

Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011

6:17 PM

To:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re:

Re: good starting dose?/update

Yeah, how

about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have

kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on

the road to stability.

What frustrates me is that my "teen" isn't showing many hypo. signs,

and ignores my

advise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's

prescribed!

Lynn

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Martha Lovejoy"

wrote:

> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was

> diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she "got it in

range" -

> she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only

> when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid

> numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to

get

> better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I

had

> wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).

>

> Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health

> issues!!! LOLO

>

> Marti

>

>

> Re: Re: good starting dose?/update

>

>

> It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!

> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem?

> Her FT4 is

> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that

> possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.

> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.

> But what if they bare normal?

> Is taking new patients in Lubbock,

anyone know???

> Lynn

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Lynn's

Comcast

wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Thanks.

>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I

will try to

>> see if he will take her,

>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.

>> Thanks for the information.

>> Lynn

>>

>> Sent from my iPad

>>

>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, "texasthyroid"

>> wrote:

>>

>>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.

>>>

>>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the

ground

>>> about thyroid.

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an

elevated

>>>> TSH.

>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that

she is

>>>>

>>>> Experiencing.

>>>>

>>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what

a joke!

>>>>

>>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on

Armour.

>>>>

>>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read

90mg-twice

>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a

>>>>

>>>> Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do

know how none of us

>>>> are

>>>> normal!) J

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the

beginning,

>>>> I am

>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for any information.

>>>>

>>>> Lynn

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe they have to suffer like we did to totally understand the consequences?Don't they understand, Mom really does know best? :)LynnSent from my iPad

Been there, doing that! That is

totally my 21 yo daughter but she has symptoms and doesn’t take her

thyroid and other meds consistently. It’s beyond frustrating!

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On

Behalf Of Lynn's

Comcast

Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011

6:17 PM

To:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re:

Re: good starting dose?/update

Yeah, how

about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have

kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on

the road to stability.

What frustrates me is that my "teen" isn't showing many hypo. signs,

and ignores my

advise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's

prescribed!

Lynn

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 3, 2011, at 5:14 PM, "Martha Lovejoy"

wrote:

> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was

> diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she "got it in

range" -

> she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only

> when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid

> numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to

get

> better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I

had

> wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).

>

> Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health

> issues!!! LOLO

>

> Marti

>

>

> Re: Re: good starting dose?/update

>

>

> It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!

> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem?

> Her FT4 is

> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that

> possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.

> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.

> But what if they bare normal?

> Is taking new patients in Lubbock,

anyone know???

> Lynn

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Lynn's

Comcast

wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Thanks.

>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I

will try to

>> see if he will take her,

>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.

>> Thanks for the information.

>> Lynn

>>

>> Sent from my iPad

>>

>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, "texasthyroid"

>> wrote:

>>

>>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.

>>>

>>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the

ground

>>> about thyroid.

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an

elevated

>>>> TSH.

>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that

she is

>>>>

>>>> Experiencing.

>>>>

>>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what

a joke!

>>>>

>>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on

Armour.

>>>>

>>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read

90mg-twice

>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a

>>>>

>>>> Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do

know how none of us

>>>> are

>>>> normal!) J

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the

beginning,

>>>> I am

>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for any information.

>>>>

>>>> Lynn

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I did some googling, and it appears that the thyroid support groups for young adults are geared towards thyca. I couldn’t find one for hypothyroids/Hashi victims, and if you decide to try yourself, be aware that there’s great danger to those of us who google “young adult†without safe search turned on if we go past about page 3 of the results. I did find the Experience Project which overall seems more youth oriented, and in another search, this post came up: http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Have-Hashimotos-Thyroiditis/1025609 I thought it was instructive, and you might want to share it with your daughter because it paints a rather bleak picture (in the middle). The author, I think, would have been compliant had she only been able to get a diagnosis, but it doesn’t take away from what she endured. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 20:22 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Thank you for sharing. This will be a good thing for her to read. I wonder if there is sometype of support group for young adults? It seems they are reluctant to listen to their parents, even in dire straits.Thanks again, LynnSent from my iPadI did that. I was 14, and the only symptom I was aware of was two-to-three weeks long, very heavy periods once every six months or so. This doesn’t mean I didn’t have other symptoms, but only that I didn’t recognize them for what they were. Having my periods come so far apart actually seemed like a blessing. So I was non-compliant, my records were lost during a move, and for the next 22 years, my life was intermittently hell on earth. After being diagnosed with MS, I somehow, some way (miraculously) remembered the teenage thyroid episode, fired the doctor who misdiagnosed me, saw another doctor with the demand that my thyroid be tested (he thought the MS diagnosis had made me a little crazy and that I was in denial) and got myself on thyroid meds. My own daughter was diagnosed hypo when she was around 12, but shortly thereafter, she decided she wanted to live with her dad. No more thyroid meds. Her stepmother instead persuaded a doctor to prescribe Depakote and Paxil and ultimately ended up trying to have her committed. I “rescued†her, but I was quite hypo at the time (for me, severe hypothyroidism causes a state that is essentially dementia), and it just didn’t occur to me to focus on the thyroid issue with all the other things we were trying to fix. It is only recently that she has been rediagnosed and put back on thyroid hormone, but that has made an incredible difference for her. Even so, as with me, her time off thyroid meds had consequences. I have never talked about my thyroid illness in the terms above—because it’s painful (and embarrassing in the details)—but if it’s possible that my experience and that of my daughter can help someone else, then it’s worth it. You might want to ask your daughter to join one of the online support groups or else you could pick out some posts or stories from some of the many online thyroid sites so that she comprehends the gravity of the situation she’s in. Especially for teenagers, thyroid has a profound effect on emotional stability, and if you think she’s impossible now (i.e., the natural state of the teenager), I can promise you that without appropriate treatment, she will be off-the-wall. I wish you the very best in this. Good luck. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 19:17 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Yeah, how about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on the road to stability. What frustrates me is that my " teen " isn't showing many hypo. signs, and ignores myadvise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's prescribed!Lynn Sent from my iPad> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was > diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she " got it in range " - > she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only > when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid > numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to get > better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I had > wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).> > Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health > issues!!! LOLO> > Marti> > > Re: Re: good starting dose?/update> > > It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? > Her FT4 is> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that > possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.> But what if they bare normal?> Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???> Lynn> > Sent from my iPad> > > >> >> >> Thanks.>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This " other " Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to >> see if he will take her,>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.>> Thanks for the information.>> Lynn>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, " texasthyroid " >> wrote:>> >>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.>>> >>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground >>> about thyroid.>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated >>>> TSH.>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is>>>> >>>> Experiencing.>>>> >>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!>>>> >>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.>>>> >>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a>>>> >>>> Increase increment that is " normal " ? (Because I do know how none of us >>>> are>>>> normal!) J>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, >>>> I am>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.>>>> >>>> Thanks for any information.>>>> >>>> Lynn>>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,Being the mother of two teen boys that are hypo and both of whom stopped taking Armour, I understand your situation totally. My older son has now realized that he really should be taking replacement thyroid hormone. One thing that really helped to convince my sons was seeing the nodules on their thyroids when the doctor did a sonogram.  Some research indicates that the nodules may shrink if the TSH is kept at 1.0 or less.  Since both my boys have Hashi's I suspect that when they went off  the thyroid and they didn't have symptoms return for a while since the thyroid tends to swing from hypo to hyper and somewhere in between with Hashi's (until the body destroys the thyroid to the point that it doesn't want to do much at all). 

My older son's TSH is has shot back up to 5.0 and the doctor is more than willing to treat because she does have the sonogram clearly showing that he has hashi's despite no antibodies (he has been on a GF diet for 7+ years and research does show that the antibodies can go down once gluten is removed).   Part of the issue with some of these doctors is that they are extremely cautious due to the idiocy of the Texas Medical Board in persecuting doctors that treat thyroid patients based on symptoms rather than the TSH value (which is a pituitary hormone) on  a lab test.

Good luck! B

 

I was hoping maybe she could see him since she's going to Texas Tech in Lubbock.Again, even IF she would go.Next week we should hear about the antibodies and free T3 and TSH and free t4.

She had the TSH run on 6/23/2010 3.140 range 0.360-3.740Then reran 12/20/2010. TSH 4.880 same rangeFree T4 1.09 range 0.76-1.46The Dr seemed real reluctant to treat her saying that he has seen elevated TSH with the FT4 within range. That it doesn't mean there is a problem.  I told him I didn't want her to end up like me in such bad condition from being untreated.

I guess we'll wait for the antibodies test. Plus I will read about primary hypothyroidism.Thanks, LynnSent from my iPad

is not taking any new thyroid patients, except for local family practice patients who see him for pretty much everything.

If you would like to post her actual numbers together with the reference ranges and the exact name of each test, we may be able to offer some suggestions.

If you are able to travel, you might consider Manzanero in Austin or Spurlock in Dallas, although Spurlock does not like to give Armour to anyone with antibodies.

As for Dr. Zubairie, what the nurse told you over the phone and what the doc says in person may be two different things. I would make an appointment. 

> >> >> >> > I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated TSH.

> >> > I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is> >> > > >> > Experiencing.> >> > > >> > Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!

> >> > > >> > We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour. > >> > > >> > What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice

> >> > daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a> >> > > >> > Increase increment that is " normal " ? (Because I do know how none of us are> >> > normal!) J

> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, I am> >> > not sure how to go about it with her.

> >> > > >> > Thanks for any information.> >> > > >> > Lynn

[Guest guest]

Lynn,Yes, it takes some kids longer than others to realize that Mom does know best.  Mom's are almost always right when they think something is wrong with their kids - I was the one that diagnosed and aggressively pushed for testing for both my sons for celiac.  I dragged my poor sons to the doctors over and over again and they were initially embarrassed that I would argue with the doctors. However, after two months on the GF diet, they realized how right I was.  They felt better than they had in their entire lives and hadn't realized how sick they really were.   Since they both know how bad they feel when they eat gluten, they are highly motivated.

However, it is very easy to see how someone that doesn't feel extremely sick doesn't want to accept that they need to take medication (or in this case really it's not medication - it's replacement thyroid hormone to compensate for what the body isn't producing) or change their diet.  Really, that's human nature.  Honestly, how many of us would have been aggressive about getting the right treatment if we hadn't felt so bad?   I compensated for all these issues for 42 years - just accepting that's the way I was and not realizing that I never was truly well. I felt better at 47 than I had in my entire life. 

I fully agree it's our job as mothers to keep pushing this as it is so very important, but like many things in life, this is something that many of us need to learn the hard way.  In one sense, it's been a blessing that my sons have celiac because they learned early on that I only wanted what was best for them and I would do whatever it took to help them. That all said, they are still teenagers and given the research that shows that their brains and decision making don't really mature until 23 or so, getting them to understand why they need to take the thyroid and to be able to accept that it's a good thing for them in the long term is extremely difficult.   For me the most worrisome thing is that boys that are diagnosed in their early teens are statistically the most likely to develop cancerous nodules (even though boys in general are far less likely to have hashi's)  and there has been a sharp increase in thyroid cancer in teenagers over the past decade.

B.

 

Maybe they have to suffer like we did to totally understand the consequences?Don't they understand, Mom really does know best? :)LynnSent from my iPad

Been there, doing that!  That is

totally my 21 yo daughter but she has symptoms and doesn’t take her

thyroid and other meds consistently.  It’s beyond frustrating!

 

Kim

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the encouragement. I have less than 5 years for her to understand.Then the magic 23 comes! Thanks again. LynnSent from my iPad

Lynn,Yes, it takes some kids longer than others to realize that Mom does know best. Mom's are almost always right when they think something is wrong with their kids - I was the one that diagnosed and aggressively pushed for testing for both my sons for celiac. I dragged my poor sons to the doctors over and over again and they were initially embarrassed that I would argue with the doctors. However, after two months on the GF diet, they realized how right I was. They felt better than they had in their entire lives and hadn't realized how sick they really were. Since they both know how bad they feel when they eat gluten, they are highly motivated.

However, it is very easy to see how someone that doesn't feel extremely sick doesn't want to accept that they need to take medication (or in this case really it's not medication - it's replacement thyroid hormone to compensate for what the body isn't producing) or change their diet. Really, that's human nature. Honestly, how many of us would have been aggressive about getting the right treatment if we hadn't felt so bad? I compensated for all these issues for 42 years - just accepting that's the way I was and not realizing that I never was truly well. I felt better at 47 than I had in my entire life.

I fully agree it's our job as mothers to keep pushing this as it is so very important, but like many things in life, this is something that many of us need to learn the hard way. In one sense, it's been a blessing that my sons have celiac because they learned early on that I only wanted what was best for them and I would do whatever it took to help them. That all said, they are still teenagers and given the research that shows that their brains and decision making don't really mature until 23 or so, getting them to understand why they need to take the thyroid and to be able to accept that it's a good thing for them in the long term is extremely difficult. For me the most worrisome thing is that boys that are diagnosed in their early teens are statistically the most likely to develop cancerous nodules (even though boys in general are far less likely to have hashi's) and there has been a sharp increase in thyroid cancer in teenagers over the past decade.

B.

Maybe they have to suffer like we did to totally understand the consequences?Don't they understand, Mom really does know best? :)LynnSent from my iPad

Been there, doing that! That is

totally my 21 yo daughter but she has symptoms and doesn’t take her

thyroid and other meds consistently. It’s beyond frustrating!

Kim

[Guest guest]

Haven't read the entire article yet, but I know I will get something out of it.Just maybe my daughter will read it. Finger crossed. Thanks, LynnSent from my iPad

I did some googling, and it appears that the thyroid support groups for young adults are geared towards thyca. I couldn’t find one for hypothyroids/Hashi victims, and if you decide to try yourself, be aware that there’s great danger to those of us who google “young adult†without safe search turned on if we go past about page 3 of the results. I did find the Experience Project which overall seems more youth oriented, and in another search, this post came up: http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Have-Hashimotos-Thyroiditis/1025609 I thought it was instructive, and you might want to share it with your daughter because it paints a rather bleak picture (in the middle). The author, I think, would have been compliant had she only been able to get a diagnosis, but it doesn’t take away from what she endured. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 20:22 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Thank you for sharing. This will be a good thing for her to read. I wonder if there is sometype of support group for young adults? It seems they are reluctant to listen to their parents, even in dire straits.Thanks again, LynnSent from my iPadI did that. I was 14, and the only symptom I was aware of was two-to-three weeks long, very heavy periods once every six months or so. This doesn’t mean I didn’t have other symptoms, but only that I didn’t recognize them for what they were. Having my periods come so far apart actually seemed like a blessing. So I was non-compliant, my records were lost during a move, and for the next 22 years, my life was intermittently hell on earth. After being diagnosed with MS, I somehow, some way (miraculously) remembered the teenage thyroid episode, fired the doctor who misdiagnosed me, saw another doctor with the demand that my thyroid be tested (he thought the MS diagnosis had made me a little crazy and that I was in denial) and got myself on thyroid meds. My own daughter was diagnosed hypo when she was around 12, but shortly thereafter, she decided she wanted to live with her dad. No more thyroid meds. Her stepmother instead persuaded a doctor to prescribe Depakote and Paxil and ultimately ended up trying to have her committed. I “rescued†her, but I was quite hypo at the time (for me, severe hypothyroidism causes a state that is essentially dementia), and it just didn’t occur to me to focus on the thyroid issue with all the other things we were trying to fix. It is only recently that she has been rediagnosed and put back on thyroid hormone, but that has made an incredible difference for her. Even so, as with me, her time off thyroid meds had consequences. I have never talked about my thyroid illness in the terms above—because it’s painful (and embarrassing in the details)—but if it’s possible that my experience and that of my daughter can help someone else, then it’s worth it. You might want to ask your daughter to join one of the online support groups or else you could pick out some posts or stories from some of the many online thyroid sites so that she comprehends the gravity of the situation she’s in. Especially for teenagers, thyroid has a profound effect on emotional stability, and if you think she’s impossible now (i.e., the natural state of the teenager), I can promise you that without appropriate treatment, she will be off-the-wall. I wish you the very best in this. Good luck. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 19:17 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Yeah, how about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on the road to stability. What frustrates me is that my "teen" isn't showing many hypo. signs, and ignores myadvise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's prescribed!Lynn Sent from my iPad> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was > diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she "got it in range" - > she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only > when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid > numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to get > better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I had > wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).> > Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health > issues!!! LOLO> > Marti> > > Re: Re: good starting dose?/update> > > It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? > Her FT4 is> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that > possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.> But what if they bare normal?> Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???> Lynn> > Sent from my iPad> > > >> >> >> Thanks.>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to >> see if he will take her,>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.>> Thanks for the information.>> Lynn>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, "texasthyroid" >> wrote:>> >>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.>>> >>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground >>> about thyroid.>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated >>>> TSH.>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is>>>> >>>> Experiencing.>>>> >>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!>>>> >>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.>>>> >>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a>>>> >>>> Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us >>>> are>>>> normal!) J>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, >>>> I am>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.>>>> >>>> Thanks for any information.>>>> >>>> Lynn>>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

Haven't read the entire article yet, but I know I will get something out of it.Just maybe my daughter will read it. Finger crossed. Thanks, LynnSent from my iPad

I did some googling, and it appears that the thyroid support groups for young adults are geared towards thyca. I couldn’t find one for hypothyroids/Hashi victims, and if you decide to try yourself, be aware that there’s great danger to those of us who google “young adult†without safe search turned on if we go past about page 3 of the results. I did find the Experience Project which overall seems more youth oriented, and in another search, this post came up: http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Have-Hashimotos-Thyroiditis/1025609 I thought it was instructive, and you might want to share it with your daughter because it paints a rather bleak picture (in the middle). The author, I think, would have been compliant had she only been able to get a diagnosis, but it doesn’t take away from what she endured. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 20:22 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Thank you for sharing. This will be a good thing for her to read. I wonder if there is sometype of support group for young adults? It seems they are reluctant to listen to their parents, even in dire straits.Thanks again, LynnSent from my iPadI did that. I was 14, and the only symptom I was aware of was two-to-three weeks long, very heavy periods once every six months or so. This doesn’t mean I didn’t have other symptoms, but only that I didn’t recognize them for what they were. Having my periods come so far apart actually seemed like a blessing. So I was non-compliant, my records were lost during a move, and for the next 22 years, my life was intermittently hell on earth. After being diagnosed with MS, I somehow, some way (miraculously) remembered the teenage thyroid episode, fired the doctor who misdiagnosed me, saw another doctor with the demand that my thyroid be tested (he thought the MS diagnosis had made me a little crazy and that I was in denial) and got myself on thyroid meds. My own daughter was diagnosed hypo when she was around 12, but shortly thereafter, she decided she wanted to live with her dad. No more thyroid meds. Her stepmother instead persuaded a doctor to prescribe Depakote and Paxil and ultimately ended up trying to have her committed. I “rescued†her, but I was quite hypo at the time (for me, severe hypothyroidism causes a state that is essentially dementia), and it just didn’t occur to me to focus on the thyroid issue with all the other things we were trying to fix. It is only recently that she has been rediagnosed and put back on thyroid hormone, but that has made an incredible difference for her. Even so, as with me, her time off thyroid meds had consequences. I have never talked about my thyroid illness in the terms above—because it’s painful (and embarrassing in the details)—but if it’s possible that my experience and that of my daughter can help someone else, then it’s worth it. You might want to ask your daughter to join one of the online support groups or else you could pick out some posts or stories from some of the many online thyroid sites so that she comprehends the gravity of the situation she’s in. Especially for teenagers, thyroid has a profound effect on emotional stability, and if you think she’s impossible now (i.e., the natural state of the teenager), I can promise you that without appropriate treatment, she will be off-the-wall. I wish you the very best in this. Good luck. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Lynn's ComcastSent: Monday, January 03, 2011 19:17 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: good starting dose?/update Yeah, how about having a 9.00 TSH and having the Dr. say you're tired because you have kids? Been there done that! Thanks to this site, I've learned a lot and am on the road to stability. What frustrates me is that my "teen" isn't showing many hypo. signs, and ignores myadvise. So bottom line, she may not even take medication even if it's prescribed!Lynn Sent from my iPad> The first doctor who attempted to treat my hypothyroidisn, which was > diagnosed by the TSH, only looked at the TSH. When she "got it in range" - > she expected me to be all better. That was not the case, of course. Only > when I visited Hotze Health and Wellness, and they looked at ALL thyroid > numbers AND my symptoms, and prescribed natural thyroid, did I begin to get > better (and it was almost immediate, which was very frustrating after I had > wasted TEN YEARS doing the Synthroid dance).> > Good luck with your teen - teens are bad enough when they have no health > issues!!! LOLO> > Marti> > > Re: Re: good starting dose?/update> > > It is impossible dealing with a teenage daughter!> And what's up with having an elevated TSH but not having thyroid problem? > Her FT4 is> midrange normal, so Dr. doesn't think she has thyroid issues. Is that > possible, I can't seem to find info. on high TSH and normal FT4.> We are running the antibodies test since I have Hashimoto's.> But what if they bare normal?> Is taking new patients in Lubbock, anyone know???> Lynn> > Sent from my iPad> > > >> >> >> Thanks.>> I see Dr. Pucillo. This "other" Dr. Is in his practice. I will try to >> see if he will take her,>> But I heard he isn't taking new patients.>> Thanks for the information.>> Lynn>> >> Sent from my iPad>> >> On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, "texasthyroid" >> wrote:>> >>> You might ask for enough 30 mg tablets to increase to 90 mg.>>> >>> Do take her to a doc who knows their elbow from a hole in the ground >>> about thyroid.>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have recently learned that my daughter (18 years old) has an elevated >>>> TSH.>>>> I had her tested due to my Hashimotos and the symptoms that she is>>>> >>>> Experiencing.>>>> >>>> Of course the nurse called and said her labs are normal, what a joke!>>>> >>>> We are going today, and I will insist that she be started on Armour.>>>> >>>> What dose is a good dose to start on? I read 30mg and I read 90mg-twice>>>> daily. Is there a normal starting does, and a>>>> >>>> Increase increment that is "normal"? (Because I do know how none of us >>>> are>>>> normal!) J>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since I never saw a Dr. that knew what he was doing, in the beginning, >>>> I am>>>> not sure how to go about it with her.>>>> >>>> Thanks for any information.>>>> >>>> Lynn>>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> >