Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Re:Cure Kassiane

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

Hi

Kassiane, YOU can obviously pass as NT. You have friends. You are verbal.

You

are intelligent.

My daughter may never know what a friend is. She may never speak. She may

always have temper tantrums and show inappropriate behavior. Until you walk

in

the shoes of someone with a severely autistic child, you have NO RIGHT to say

we are wrong to hope for a cure.

Margaret

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

>I agree with you 100% Kassiane. I hope someday they

find a cure but don't push them into being NT. That

can lead to stress, stress, stress. >>

Not to be rude, but if you hope for a cure, you DONT agree 100% with me.

You might agree 90%, but not toally, which is 100%/

I am in favor of progress. I am COMPLETELY anti cure. We aren't sick, we

aren\'t broken, we are just differnet.

Kassiane *in a pedantic mood this morning*

_______________________________________________________________

Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at

http://www.mail2world.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Hi

Kassiane, YOU can obviously pass as NT. You have friends. You are

verbal.

You

are intelligent.>>

You dont know any of that. Most of my friends are autistic. I didnt have

any even sort of friends till I was in high school. Didnt have REAL

friends till I met autistic people. Im not always verbal, and what I say

is not always functional. I am intellegent, yes, but there are such

holes in my abilities that in some areas I am very nearly " retarded " in

the vernacular.

>>My daughter may never know what a friend is. She may never speak. She

may

always have temper tantrums and show inappropriate behavior. Until you

walk

in

the shoes of someone with a severely autistic child, you have NO RIGHT

to say

we are wrong to hope for a cure.>>

I WORK WITH SEVERELY AUTISTIC KIDS. Forget YOUR pain, what about your

CHILD'S pain? I stil;l have the occasional meltdown-its called

FRUSTRATION, from dealing with this world and the incomprehensible

people in it. Like it or not, I know what it IS to BE AUTISTIC.

Neurotypical parents CANT know this, the same way we cant know what it

is to be NT. ALmost NO adult autistics want a cure. Shouldnt that say

something?

I hope for a cure for ignorance, not for autism. Ignorance and

selfishness cause far more suffering than autism ever did.

Kassiane

*who is getting mad now*

_______________________________________________________________

Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at

http://www.mail2world.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

> Kassiane, YOU can obviously pass as NT. You have friends. You are

verbal.

> You are intelligent.

>

> My daughter may never know what a friend is. She may never speak. She

may

> always have temper tantrums and show inappropriate behavior. Until you

walk

> in the shoes of someone with a severely autistic child, you have NO RIGHT

to say

> we are wrong to hope for a cure.

>

> Margaret

While I would say that often people who are at the milder end of the

spectrum do not always take into account the difficulties encountered by

those at the more severe end of the spectrum, I would have to agree with

Kassi in much of what she says.

I don't want to 'cure' autism. I don't want to expunge it from the world.

To do that would be to lose a lot. There are a lot of wonderful things

about the way an autistic mind works.

I'm not a parent, and I don't presume to know what parents of autistic

children feel. But I would say that to hope to get rid of the autism

completely is not only unrealistic, it is, as Kassi says, negating those who

have autism.

Your daughter may never understand friendship. But she may well have

friends. It's been my experience that if children are given the benefit of

the doubt and offered enough information to make appropriate decisions, they

will choose to be a fried to someone who is different.

Your daughter may never speak. But she may learn to sign, or to use PECS,

or to type/print her communication. Don't sell her short. Pursue

communication first.

Your daughter may always have temper tantrums and display inappropriate

behaviours. Unless she's being reinforced for the temper tantrums, they are

likely not her fault - they are more likely a result of some kind of

overload... and as she gets older you may be able to teach her other ways of

letting people know that things are getting to be too much for her to deal

with. Inappropriate behaviours can also be dealt with in much the same way.

Your daughter quite likely understands more than you think. She may not

show it, but that is more likely a result of being unable to express herself

appropriately.

Pursue treatment. Expect her to learn to communicate (not to speak), to get

by as independently as possible in the NT world. Just remember, if you

don't expect anything of her, she will achieve just that: nothing.

There is hope for her future. A good ABA program can teach her the skills

she will need to be able to live independently (or in supported group

housing) - things like self-care, how to get dressed, how to feed herself;

also school and work skills like reading and writing and drawing. A good

ABA program will also be able to help her learn to communicate. Try sign

first, and if it is too difficult, move to PECS. Begin, of course, with

manding, or asking for things. Teach one sign at a time and make sure she

can discriminate (that she's asking for the one she really does want)

between the first two before adding a third. If she can't tell them apart,

move to PECS. Either way, done correctly, promotes the acquisition of

speech.

Don't look for normalcy. There is no such thing. Look for what is normal

for your daughter. Look for what is possible for your daughter. Expect

just a little bit more than you really think she will be able to do - she'll

surprise you.

-Janna

ABA Therapist, North Vancouver, BC, Canada

BMus, BAPsych

****************************************************************************

*****************

" Home is not a place. It is wherever your passion takes you. " - President

Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522)

" Deep calls to deep in the roar of Your waterfall; all of your waves and

breakers have swept over me. " - Psalm 42:7

" Rolling river God, little stones are smooth, only once the water passes

through... " - Nichole Nordeman, " river god " (wide eyed, 1998)

" Nobody else is stronger than I am, today I moved a mountain! I'd like to

be your hero, I am a mighty little man! " - Steve Burns, " Mighty Little Man "

(Songs For Dustmites, unreleased)

http://crosswinds.net/~jlhasd

****************************************************************************

*****************

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

<<

Don't look for normalcy. There is no such thing. Look for what is normal

for your daughter. Look for what is possible for your daughter. Expect

just a little bit more than you really think she will be able to do -

she'll

surprise you.

>>

Leave it to Janna to keep her head, and do so beautifully...

good job =)

Kassiane

_______________________________________________________________

Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at

http://www.mail2world.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

<<

Don't look for normalcy. There is no such thing. Look for what is normal

for your daughter. Look for what is possible for your daughter. Expect

just a little bit more than you really think she will be able to do -

she'll

surprise you.

>>

Leave it to Janna to keep her head, and do so beautifully...

good job =)

Kassiane

_______________________________________________________________

Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at

http://www.mail2world.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

> <<

> Don't look for normalcy. There is no such thing. Look for what is normal

> for your daughter. Look for what is possible for your daughter. Expect

> just a little bit more than you really think she will be able to do -

> she'll

> surprise you.

> >>

> Leave it to Janna to keep her head, and do so beautifully...

> good job =)

> Kassiane

Thanks. :)

Writing's always been a strong point for me, regardless of what other issues

I've ever had to deal with. ;)

Oh, and I didn't write that right away, either. I read it, went and did

some more stuff elsewhere, then came back and replied, just as you were

writing your OWN response!

-Janna

ABA Therapist, North Vancouver, BC, Canada

BMus, BAPsych

****************************************************************************

*****************

" Home is not a place. It is wherever your passion takes you. " - President

Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522)

" Deep calls to deep in the roar of Your waterfall; all of your waves and

breakers have swept over me. " - Psalm 42:7

" Rolling river God, little stones are smooth, only once the water passes

through... " - Nichole Nordeman, " river god " (wide eyed, 1998)

" Nobody else is stronger than I am, today I moved a mountain! I'd like to

be your hero, I am a mighty little man! " - Steve Burns, " Mighty Little Man "

(Songs For Dustmites, unreleased)

http://crosswinds.net/~jlhasd

****************************************************************************

*****************

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

> <<

> Don't look for normalcy. There is no such thing. Look for what is

normal

> for your daughter. Look for what is possible for your daughter. Expect

> just a little bit more than you really think she will be able to do -

> she'll

> surprise you.

>>>

> Leave it to Janna to keep her head, and do so beautifully...

> good job =)

> Kassiane

Thanks. :)

Writing's always been a strong point for me, regardless of what other

issues

I've ever had to deal with. ;)

Oh, and I didn't write that right away, either. I read it, went and did

some more stuff elsewhere, then came back and replied, just as you were

writing your OWN response!>>

You mean while I was losing my temper? =/

Kassiane

*who still hasnt totally gotten it under control again, as fair warning

to all*

_______________________________________________________________

Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at

http://www.mail2world.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...