Re: I'm back and with stries!

[Guest guest]

I can't believe this isn't my mother! I just put 2 & 2 together and

have realized my mom has BP, after 39 years! This would be our exact

scenario. In fact she has been waging a horrible smear campaign

against my sister for 2 wks, saying she has only 1 daughter (me; how

lucky I am!). Per her, my dear kind sis is crazy b/c she is seeing a

psychiatrist to help her with her anxiety/panic disorder & (what

else) terrible feelings toward mom. Today I made the error of

calling her, against my better judgement, to see if I could come by

& bring a Mother's Day gift. The first response was a

tearful/dramatic " I can't even walk today because I'm so depressed

about this injustice " . 15 minutes of denying her nastiness to my

sister, threatening to jump off a cliff (this is FL, we have no

cliffs here; yesterday, it was going to be poison, which has been

her threat-of-preference all my life), listing how she has taken

care of her babies (MY babies, mother) for me/paid for my education

(actually 90% of my education is still being paid for--MY student

loans)/etc. I told her she needs psychiatric help if she is so

depressed she can't get up & this of course was a disaster. She said

she'll tell the psychiatrist about all our abuses (???!!!) & show me

how sane she is! I guess 2 daughters that love her unconditionally

(which is more that she offered us; all we got was emotional

beatings) is not enough good fortune. I guess I need to learn about

these " triggers " ! I think I'll just keep that Mother's Day gift.

> Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6

weeks

> and can now rejoin the living and take some time to get back the

> group and myself again. I teach high school drama and direct a

big

> ridiculously difficult production every spring that turns out to

be

> brilliant but nearly kills me in the process. I have not done too

> well building up those boundaries or finding much balance at

school,

> BUT I have made progress with Nada boundaries!

>

> Nada showed up on Saturday which is the 1st time I have seen her

or

> spoken to her since Set. 25th. She said, " we just need to end

this

> (our distance) right now, I can't take it.! " That's how our FIVE

> HOUR trip to hell and back began. To give a recap would be

> impossible , but I can give highlights.

> 1. My husband was home to witness and validate my perceptions.

> 2. I recounted her behavior from the last time I saw her --blow

> by blow b/c she apparently has no clear memory of it. (I even

> performed part of it so she could get the full picture). I told

her

> that I was actually afraid she might shoot me (she had told me she

> was buying a gun for self-defense and if my cousin ever came over,

> she shoot him in the knees so he can't play golf) so I thought in

her

> rage that could happen. I told her this and she went nuts. " Me,

> me, ME!? I would never hurt an earthworm!

> 3. I told her she was verbally and emotionally abuse.

> 4. I told her she had an image of me that she wanted me to be

> and whenever I strayed from that image, I was punished.

> 5. I told her she was responsible, as we all are, in the

> breakdown of our family, in all of the broken relationships that

> surround her (she thinks it's everyone else-all 6 of us). In

fact,

> she thinks I have a mental illness that causes me to sympathies

with

> people who abuse her. Hmm, maybe I do.

> 6. When she stated that we should just meet for coffee and

> discuss the dogs, nothing real, I told he NO. It can never be

that

> kind of relationship. She would dig her claws in as soon as she

saw

> an opportunity. New patterns must be made and they must be made

with

> a doctor. That's my final answer and stayed my final answer.

> 7. When she chided me for disrespecting and denying the

greatest

> gift she could give – the Catholic Church- I asked her if this

gift

> she had wanted to give was faith or was it actually the Catholic

> Church. Shouldn't my Christian faith be enough? Why isn't that a

> gift? She deflected and told me I was an idiot, of course.

> 8. When she stated that her faith was the most scared thing in

> her life, I asked her how she was walking her faith in her life

and

> relationships. Who had she shown mercy to or forgiven? She

dodged

> this question for 45 minutes, then finally said, " Oh you know so

much

> about the bible, what are the 10 commandments? Honor the father

and

> mother? Remember that one! At this point, my husband chucked and

> said just answer the question. Oh boy, my husband doesn't know

too

> much about the trigger stuff. I mean he was dealing with her like

> she was a sane person misbehaving

> 9. She started screaming and insulting my husband at one point

> and I ordered her to sit down and shut up, She did for a moment.

> 10. I told her that she frightened me and was unable to hear my

> words because she is standing across from with her brain panicking

> about what her nasty comeback would be. Never listening always

> deflecting avoiding.

> 11. My husband asked her why she always brought the accounting

> book out. (The ole I have done this and this and that for you,

and

> what do I get in return???) and her reply was " I knew 's prom

> dates better than you! I think I can count on one hands the meals

we

> had last year, all of which I paid for. " So my husband that

pulling

> out his wallet to pay her back and I am thinking, how old is

everyone

> here?????

> 12. Then, around 4 hours into this, my husband used the word

> fucking as an adjective, and she was out of there like a self-

> righteous tornado. said, " I apologize, I should have used

that

> language in your presence. " She responded, " Well, fuck you, fuck

> you, fuck you too !!! How does that feel? Huh?

>

> The scary part- brought up BPD- she went crazy and how she

new

> I was on that path to get her labeled and locked away, etc. She

> said, I couldn't be borderline, they don't have relationships. I

> said, " you don't have any relationships… " There were a few

moments

> that I may have reached, but they were few and I mean I was worn

out

> all to hell!

>

> The finale: we do have an appointment Weds with her old

therapist ,

> so there in some victory in that. I don't expect it will go

> anywhere. She'll bolt as soon as someone suggest she might be at

> fault…..we shall see. I will not deal with her until a therapist

is

> present, so that demand is finally being met. I will be hopeful,

but

> realistic.

>

> That's basically my re-entrance into Oasis. I look forward to

> catching up with everyone. Wish me luck on Weds. Anyone ever

been

> through the mother daughter therapy like this?

>

> Blessings and Love to all,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We're always glad to see a KO stop by to get their batteries

charged. Good luck on Wednesday and keep us informed.

Hugs,

- Edith

ketebebe1972 wrote:

> Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6 weeks

> and can now rejoin the living and take some time to get back the

> group and myself again. I teach high school drama and direct a big

> ridiculously difficult production every spring that turns out to be

> brilliant but nearly kills me in the process. I have not done too

> well building up those boundaries or finding much balance at school,

> BUT I have made progress with Nada boundaries!

>

> Nada showed up on Saturday which is the 1st time I have seen her or

> spoken to her since Set. 25th. She said, " we just need to end this

> (our distance) right now, I can't take it.! " That's how our FIVE

> HOUR trip to hell and back began. To give a recap would be

> impossible , but I can give highlights.

> 1. My husband was home to witness and validate my perceptions.

> 2. I recounted her behavior from the last time I saw her --blow

> by blow b/c she apparently has no clear memory of it. (I even

> performed part of it so she could get the full picture). I told her

> that I was actually afraid she might shoot me (she had told me she

> was buying a gun for self-defense and if my cousin ever came over,

> she shoot him in the knees so he can't play golf) so I thought in her

> rage that could happen. I told her this and she went nuts. " Me,

> me, ME!? I would never hurt an earthworm!

> 3. I told her she was verbally and emotionally abuse.

> 4. I told her she had an image of me that she wanted me to be

> and whenever I strayed from that image, I was punished.

> 5. I told her she was responsible, as we all are, in the

> breakdown of our family, in all of the broken relationships that

> surround her (she thinks it's everyone else-all 6 of us). In fact,

> she thinks I have a mental illness that causes me to sympathies with

> people who abuse her. Hmm, maybe I do.

> 6. When she stated that we should just meet for coffee and

> discuss the dogs, nothing real, I told he NO. It can never be that

> kind of relationship. She would dig her claws in as soon as she saw

> an opportunity. New patterns must be made and they must be made with

> a doctor. That's my final answer and stayed my final answer.

> 7. When she chided me for disrespecting and denying the greatest

> gift she could give – the Catholic Church- I asked her if this gift

> she had wanted to give was faith or was it actually the Catholic

> Church. Shouldn't my Christian faith be enough? Why isn't that a

> gift? She deflected and told me I was an idiot, of course.

> 8. When she stated that her faith was the most scared thing in

> her life, I asked her how she was walking her faith in her life and

> relationships. Who had she shown mercy to or forgiven? She dodged

> this question for 45 minutes, then finally said, " Oh you know so much

> about the bible, what are the 10 commandments? Honor the father and

> mother? Remember that one! At this point, my husband chucked and

> said just answer the question. Oh boy, my husband doesn't know too

> much about the trigger stuff. I mean he was dealing with her like

> she was a sane person misbehaving

> 9. She started screaming and insulting my husband at one point

> and I ordered her to sit down and shut up, She did for a moment.

> 10. I told her that she frightened me and was unable to hear my

> words because she is standing across from with her brain panicking

> about what her nasty comeback would be. Never listening always

> deflecting avoiding.

> 11. My husband asked her why she always brought the accounting

> book out. (The ole I have done this and this and that for you, and

> what do I get in return???) and her reply was " I knew 's prom

> dates better than you! I think I can count on one hands the meals we

> had last year, all of which I paid for. " So my husband that pulling

> out his wallet to pay her back and I am thinking, how old is everyone

> here?????

> 12. Then, around 4 hours into this, my husband used the word

> fucking as an adjective, and she was out of there like a self-

> righteous tornado. said, " I apologize, I should have used that

> language in your presence. " She responded, " Well, fuck you, fuck

> you, fuck you too !!! How does that feel? Huh?

>

> The scary part- brought up BPD- she went crazy and how she new

> I was on that path to get her labeled and locked away, etc. She

> said, I couldn't be borderline, they don't have relationships. I

> said, " you don't have any relationships… " There were a few moments

> that I may have reached, but they were few and I mean I was worn out

> all to hell!

>

> The finale: we do have an appointment Weds with her old therapist ,

> so there in some victory in that. I don't expect it will go

> anywhere. She'll bolt as soon as someone suggest she might be at

> fault…..we shall see. I will not deal with her until a therapist is

> present, so that demand is finally being met. I will be hopeful, but

> realistic.

>

> That's basically my re-entrance into Oasis. I look forward to

> catching up with everyone. Wish me luck on Weds. Anyone ever been

> through the mother daughter therapy like this?

>

> Blessings and Love to all,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We're always glad to see a KO stop by to get their batteries

charged. Good luck on Wednesday and keep us informed.

Hugs,

- Edith

ketebebe1972 wrote:

> Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6 weeks

> and can now rejoin the living and take some time to get back the

> group and myself again. I teach high school drama and direct a big

> ridiculously difficult production every spring that turns out to be

> brilliant but nearly kills me in the process. I have not done too

> well building up those boundaries or finding much balance at school,

> BUT I have made progress with Nada boundaries!

>

> Nada showed up on Saturday which is the 1st time I have seen her or

> spoken to her since Set. 25th. She said, " we just need to end this

> (our distance) right now, I can't take it.! " That's how our FIVE

> HOUR trip to hell and back began. To give a recap would be

> impossible , but I can give highlights.

> 1. My husband was home to witness and validate my perceptions.

> 2. I recounted her behavior from the last time I saw her --blow

> by blow b/c she apparently has no clear memory of it. (I even

> performed part of it so she could get the full picture). I told her

> that I was actually afraid she might shoot me (she had told me she

> was buying a gun for self-defense and if my cousin ever came over,

> she shoot him in the knees so he can't play golf) so I thought in her

> rage that could happen. I told her this and she went nuts. " Me,

> me, ME!? I would never hurt an earthworm!

> 3. I told her she was verbally and emotionally abuse.

> 4. I told her she had an image of me that she wanted me to be

> and whenever I strayed from that image, I was punished.

> 5. I told her she was responsible, as we all are, in the

> breakdown of our family, in all of the broken relationships that

> surround her (she thinks it's everyone else-all 6 of us). In fact,

> she thinks I have a mental illness that causes me to sympathies with

> people who abuse her. Hmm, maybe I do.

> 6. When she stated that we should just meet for coffee and

> discuss the dogs, nothing real, I told he NO. It can never be that

> kind of relationship. She would dig her claws in as soon as she saw

> an opportunity. New patterns must be made and they must be made with

> a doctor. That's my final answer and stayed my final answer.

> 7. When she chided me for disrespecting and denying the greatest

> gift she could give – the Catholic Church- I asked her if this gift

> she had wanted to give was faith or was it actually the Catholic

> Church. Shouldn't my Christian faith be enough? Why isn't that a

> gift? She deflected and told me I was an idiot, of course.

> 8. When she stated that her faith was the most scared thing in

> her life, I asked her how she was walking her faith in her life and

> relationships. Who had she shown mercy to or forgiven? She dodged

> this question for 45 minutes, then finally said, " Oh you know so much

> about the bible, what are the 10 commandments? Honor the father and

> mother? Remember that one! At this point, my husband chucked and

> said just answer the question. Oh boy, my husband doesn't know too

> much about the trigger stuff. I mean he was dealing with her like

> she was a sane person misbehaving

> 9. She started screaming and insulting my husband at one point

> and I ordered her to sit down and shut up, She did for a moment.

> 10. I told her that she frightened me and was unable to hear my

> words because she is standing across from with her brain panicking

> about what her nasty comeback would be. Never listening always

> deflecting avoiding.

> 11. My husband asked her why she always brought the accounting

> book out. (The ole I have done this and this and that for you, and

> what do I get in return???) and her reply was " I knew 's prom

> dates better than you! I think I can count on one hands the meals we

> had last year, all of which I paid for. " So my husband that pulling

> out his wallet to pay her back and I am thinking, how old is everyone

> here?????

> 12. Then, around 4 hours into this, my husband used the word

> fucking as an adjective, and she was out of there like a self-

> righteous tornado. said, " I apologize, I should have used that

> language in your presence. " She responded, " Well, fuck you, fuck

> you, fuck you too !!! How does that feel? Huh?

>

> The scary part- brought up BPD- she went crazy and how she new

> I was on that path to get her labeled and locked away, etc. She

> said, I couldn't be borderline, they don't have relationships. I

> said, " you don't have any relationships… " There were a few moments

> that I may have reached, but they were few and I mean I was worn out

> all to hell!

>

> The finale: we do have an appointment Weds with her old therapist ,

> so there in some victory in that. I don't expect it will go

> anywhere. She'll bolt as soon as someone suggest she might be at

> fault…..we shall see. I will not deal with her until a therapist is

> present, so that demand is finally being met. I will be hopeful, but

> realistic.

>

> That's basically my re-entrance into Oasis. I look forward to

> catching up with everyone. Wish me luck on Weds. Anyone ever been

> through the mother daughter therapy like this?

>

> Blessings and Love to all,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We're always glad to see a KO stop by to get their batteries

charged. Good luck on Wednesday and keep us informed.

Hugs,

- Edith

ketebebe1972 wrote:

> Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6 weeks

> and can now rejoin the living and take some time to get back the

> group and myself again. I teach high school drama and direct a big

> ridiculously difficult production every spring that turns out to be

> brilliant but nearly kills me in the process. I have not done too

> well building up those boundaries or finding much balance at school,

> BUT I have made progress with Nada boundaries!

>

> Nada showed up on Saturday which is the 1st time I have seen her or

> spoken to her since Set. 25th. She said, " we just need to end this

> (our distance) right now, I can't take it.! " That's how our FIVE

> HOUR trip to hell and back began. To give a recap would be

> impossible , but I can give highlights.

> 1. My husband was home to witness and validate my perceptions.

> 2. I recounted her behavior from the last time I saw her --blow

> by blow b/c she apparently has no clear memory of it. (I even

> performed part of it so she could get the full picture). I told her

> that I was actually afraid she might shoot me (she had told me she

> was buying a gun for self-defense and if my cousin ever came over,

> she shoot him in the knees so he can't play golf) so I thought in her

> rage that could happen. I told her this and she went nuts. " Me,

> me, ME!? I would never hurt an earthworm!

> 3. I told her she was verbally and emotionally abuse.

> 4. I told her she had an image of me that she wanted me to be

> and whenever I strayed from that image, I was punished.

> 5. I told her she was responsible, as we all are, in the

> breakdown of our family, in all of the broken relationships that

> surround her (she thinks it's everyone else-all 6 of us). In fact,

> she thinks I have a mental illness that causes me to sympathies with

> people who abuse her. Hmm, maybe I do.

> 6. When she stated that we should just meet for coffee and

> discuss the dogs, nothing real, I told he NO. It can never be that

> kind of relationship. She would dig her claws in as soon as she saw

> an opportunity. New patterns must be made and they must be made with

> a doctor. That's my final answer and stayed my final answer.

> 7. When she chided me for disrespecting and denying the greatest

> gift she could give – the Catholic Church- I asked her if this gift

> she had wanted to give was faith or was it actually the Catholic

> Church. Shouldn't my Christian faith be enough? Why isn't that a

> gift? She deflected and told me I was an idiot, of course.

> 8. When she stated that her faith was the most scared thing in

> her life, I asked her how she was walking her faith in her life and

> relationships. Who had she shown mercy to or forgiven? She dodged

> this question for 45 minutes, then finally said, " Oh you know so much

> about the bible, what are the 10 commandments? Honor the father and

> mother? Remember that one! At this point, my husband chucked and

> said just answer the question. Oh boy, my husband doesn't know too

> much about the trigger stuff. I mean he was dealing with her like

> she was a sane person misbehaving

> 9. She started screaming and insulting my husband at one point

> and I ordered her to sit down and shut up, She did for a moment.

> 10. I told her that she frightened me and was unable to hear my

> words because she is standing across from with her brain panicking

> about what her nasty comeback would be. Never listening always

> deflecting avoiding.

> 11. My husband asked her why she always brought the accounting

> book out. (The ole I have done this and this and that for you, and

> what do I get in return???) and her reply was " I knew 's prom

> dates better than you! I think I can count on one hands the meals we

> had last year, all of which I paid for. " So my husband that pulling

> out his wallet to pay her back and I am thinking, how old is everyone

> here?????

> 12. Then, around 4 hours into this, my husband used the word

> fucking as an adjective, and she was out of there like a self-

> righteous tornado. said, " I apologize, I should have used that

> language in your presence. " She responded, " Well, fuck you, fuck

> you, fuck you too !!! How does that feel? Huh?

>

> The scary part- brought up BPD- she went crazy and how she new

> I was on that path to get her labeled and locked away, etc. She

> said, I couldn't be borderline, they don't have relationships. I

> said, " you don't have any relationships… " There were a few moments

> that I may have reached, but they were few and I mean I was worn out

> all to hell!

>

> The finale: we do have an appointment Weds with her old therapist ,

> so there in some victory in that. I don't expect it will go

> anywhere. She'll bolt as soon as someone suggest she might be at

> fault…..we shall see. I will not deal with her until a therapist is

> present, so that demand is finally being met. I will be hopeful, but

> realistic.

>

> That's basically my re-entrance into Oasis. I look forward to

> catching up with everyone. Wish me luck on Weds. Anyone ever been

> through the mother daughter therapy like this?

>

> Blessings and Love to all,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi smami,

Welcome to Oz. We KOs with these make-believe mothers now have

three books available. I hope you have copies of SWOE,

Understanding the Borderline Mother, and Surviving A Borderline

Parent. The smear campaign stuff you wrote about is in chapter

11 of SWOE.

- Edith

juliesmami wrote:

> I can't believe this isn't my mother! I just put 2 & 2 together and

> have realized my mom has BP, after 39 years! This would be our exact

> scenario. In fact she has been waging a horrible smear campaign

> against my sister for 2 wks, saying she has only 1 daughter (me; how

> lucky I am!). Per her, my dear kind sis is crazy b/c she is seeing a

> psychiatrist to help her with her anxiety/panic disorder & (what

> else) terrible feelings toward mom. Today I made the error of

> calling her, against my better judgement, to see if I could come by

> & bring a Mother's Day gift. The first response was a

> tearful/dramatic " I can't even walk today because I'm so depressed

> about this injustice " . 15 minutes of denying her nastiness to my

> sister, threatening to jump off a cliff (this is FL, we have no

> cliffs here; yesterday, it was going to be poison, which has been

> her threat-of-preference all my life), listing how she has taken

> care of her babies (MY babies, mother) for me/paid for my education

> (actually 90% of my education is still being paid for--MY student

> loans)/etc. I told her she needs psychiatric help if she is so

> depressed she can't get up & this of course was a disaster. She said

> she'll tell the psychiatrist about all our abuses (???!!!) & show me

> how sane she is! I guess 2 daughters that love her unconditionally

> (which is more that she offered us; all we got was emotional

> beatings) is not enough good fortune. I guess I need to learn about

> these " triggers " ! I think I'll just keep that Mother's Day gift.

>

>

>

>

>>Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Hi smami,

Welcome to Oz. We KOs with these make-believe mothers now have

three books available. I hope you have copies of SWOE,

Understanding the Borderline Mother, and Surviving A Borderline

Parent. The smear campaign stuff you wrote about is in chapter

11 of SWOE.

- Edith

juliesmami wrote:

> I can't believe this isn't my mother! I just put 2 & 2 together and

> have realized my mom has BP, after 39 years! This would be our exact

> scenario. In fact she has been waging a horrible smear campaign

> against my sister for 2 wks, saying she has only 1 daughter (me; how

> lucky I am!). Per her, my dear kind sis is crazy b/c she is seeing a

> psychiatrist to help her with her anxiety/panic disorder & (what

> else) terrible feelings toward mom. Today I made the error of

> calling her, against my better judgement, to see if I could come by

> & bring a Mother's Day gift. The first response was a

> tearful/dramatic " I can't even walk today because I'm so depressed

> about this injustice " . 15 minutes of denying her nastiness to my

> sister, threatening to jump off a cliff (this is FL, we have no

> cliffs here; yesterday, it was going to be poison, which has been

> her threat-of-preference all my life), listing how she has taken

> care of her babies (MY babies, mother) for me/paid for my education

> (actually 90% of my education is still being paid for--MY student

> loans)/etc. I told her she needs psychiatric help if she is so

> depressed she can't get up & this of course was a disaster. She said

> she'll tell the psychiatrist about all our abuses (???!!!) & show me

> how sane she is! I guess 2 daughters that love her unconditionally

> (which is more that she offered us; all we got was emotional

> beatings) is not enough good fortune. I guess I need to learn about

> these " triggers " ! I think I'll just keep that Mother's Day gift.

>

>

>

>

>>Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Hi smami,

Welcome to Oz. We KOs with these make-believe mothers now have

three books available. I hope you have copies of SWOE,

Understanding the Borderline Mother, and Surviving A Borderline

Parent. The smear campaign stuff you wrote about is in chapter

11 of SWOE.

- Edith

juliesmami wrote:

> I can't believe this isn't my mother! I just put 2 & 2 together and

> have realized my mom has BP, after 39 years! This would be our exact

> scenario. In fact she has been waging a horrible smear campaign

> against my sister for 2 wks, saying she has only 1 daughter (me; how

> lucky I am!). Per her, my dear kind sis is crazy b/c she is seeing a

> psychiatrist to help her with her anxiety/panic disorder & (what

> else) terrible feelings toward mom. Today I made the error of

> calling her, against my better judgement, to see if I could come by

> & bring a Mother's Day gift. The first response was a

> tearful/dramatic " I can't even walk today because I'm so depressed

> about this injustice " . 15 minutes of denying her nastiness to my

> sister, threatening to jump off a cliff (this is FL, we have no

> cliffs here; yesterday, it was going to be poison, which has been

> her threat-of-preference all my life), listing how she has taken

> care of her babies (MY babies, mother) for me/paid for my education

> (actually 90% of my education is still being paid for--MY student

> loans)/etc. I told her she needs psychiatric help if she is so

> depressed she can't get up & this of course was a disaster. She said

> she'll tell the psychiatrist about all our abuses (???!!!) & show me

> how sane she is! I guess 2 daughters that love her unconditionally

> (which is more that she offered us; all we got was emotional

> beatings) is not enough good fortune. I guess I need to learn about

> these " triggers " ! I think I'll just keep that Mother's Day gift.

>

>

>

>

>>Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6

<snip>

[Guest guest]

I tried that many times -- Nada never saw a therapist though.

Good luck! I hope you have some success.

Barb T.

> Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6 weeks

> and can now rejoin the living and take some time to get back the

> group and myself again. I teach high school drama and direct a big

> ridiculously difficult production every spring that turns out to

be

>

[Guest guest]

I tried that many times -- Nada never saw a therapist though.

Good luck! I hope you have some success.

Barb T.

> Hey everybody! I have been away from the list for at least 6 weeks

> and can now rejoin the living and take some time to get back the

> group and myself again. I teach high school drama and direct a big

> ridiculously difficult production every spring that turns out to

be

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